but according to richard spencer's mother, that was not the case. and richard spencer's mother published an essay encouraging people or basically saying that tanya gersh tried to extort her and the daily storm or jumped on that. said that there is a jewish realtor and business woman who is trying to extort the mother of richard spencer, who as many of you likely know, is a white supremacist. and that led to the threat and sort of the culmination was, a proposed march there was actually going to be led by white supremacists and on her doorstep. [inaudible conversations][inaud >> sure, so, a book like this can never be complete. folks have a sense as to how many incidents, i've been asked what is the question? sorry. thank you for the reminder. the question is, how did i choose these stories? given the prevalence of hate and violence in general over the last two years. so folks have a sense and how much hate violence happens in the united states, according to the fbi, there are, in 2016 for example, there was roughly 6000 hate crimes that took place.

have you ever -- i've never heard of this richard spencer until 5 minutes ago.erally had never heard of him. >> there is a deep strain of leftism inside the white nationalist movement. jason kessler, the organizer of the charlottesville rally, was an obama supporter. think about it. a white supremacist who voted for obama. and in occupy wall street guy. now this guy, richard spencer, and the core part of the interview, i asked him, where do your rights come from? they come from god? he goes, no. we don't have any rights. the right that we have are given to us by the government. so he's a statist, he's aha collectivist. and yet the left, when they see this, it horrifies them because it doesn't fit their narrative. and so they don't want to interview spencer in this kindfi of thing. i think the movie in a way blows the whistle on charlottesville and that whole charlottesville narrative and it blows it up and shows that there is a whole unreported side of it in which the left statists are trying ultimately to smear the right with guys like spencer, who are their wi

when us talking to richard spencer i said i know who you are. you are essentially a progressive democrat circa 1950 picky said no i'm not. i go, have you watched the movie birth of a nation? he said yesterday what did you think of it? amazing movie. i'm like, this is my point do you think is amazing that it because those people are your team. let's remember this is a progressive left-wing team, nothing conservative republican about it. we don't even go to the progressive democrats, the white nationalists are being driven by a statist ideology that was generated by the early 20th century progressive democrats to make racism glue that held the democratic party together. >> thank you. >> phillip anderson, marquette university. you mention richard spencers fascination with andrew jackson and i was wondering what you yos if somebody came back and said donald trump also had a similar fascination with andrew jackson? >> i would say that any to sit there and have a lengthy conversation with donald trump. donald trump visited the jackson plantation. you'

you mentioned richard spencer's fascination with andrew jackson. i was wondering what you would say if so it came back and said donald trump has a similar fascination with andrew jackson? dinesh: i would say i need to sit down and have a lengthy conversation with donald trump. donald trump visited the jackson plantation. now you have to realize that ,hese presidential libraries they are a bit of a stage. i went to see the clinton library recently. i mean, a couple years ago. and you walk in, and you basically see what happened in the 1990's. a number of people who own cell phones in 1992. number of people who own cell phones in 2000. and so it goes. and silhouetted against this is a ridiculously large picture of bill clinton beaming as if to say, "look what i did." so these presidential libraries are to some degree's propaganda machines for their guy. you go through them and think, wow, this guy must have been great because they tend to sanitize the stuff that made the guy look bad. this is why i love the reagan ranch because the reagan ranch is ac

richard spencer showed up. i was there. when a guy punched spencer, i peacefully to challenge his ideas. i did not pension. -- punch him. and i got death threats. people went after my family. they called my sister at her work. my mom was on a plane to ecuador and i said i was in a coma in d.c.. they were insisting that she go there immediately. i can only assume they were getting to her to get to me. i see how severe things are and how blinded people are. if they do not want to fix -- if you are stuck in a riptide getting pulled out to see, you cannot flail your arms. and appreciatese the situation and relax. and think about what is going on. if you want to solve it physics problem, you do not do math immediately. you figure out what problem your modeling. mind, the excesses of the [inaudible] is intended to draw attention away from the real problem. while there are still some people who believe in a world without identity politics, bernie sanders, even he is being pulled through the muck and a driving society apart. this ti

richard spencer showed up. i was there. when a guy punched spencer, i pulled him off and pursued him peacefully to challenge his ideas. i did not punch him. i got death threats galore. antifa went after my family. they called my sister at her work. while i was on a place to ecuador. they said i was in a coma in d.c. they were insisting that she go there immediately. i can only assume they were getting to her to get to me. my point is, i see how severe things are and how blinded people are. and if they want to fix racism, they have to think about what racism is in 2018 in order to solve the problem. if you are stuck in a riptide getting pulled out to sea, you cannot flail your arms maniacally. you have to pause and appreciate the situation and relax. and think about what is going on. if you want to solve a physics problem, you do not do math immediately. you think out what problem you're modeling. in my mind, the excesses of the scapegoating of whites is intended to draw attention away from the real problem. it disheartens me

she had some type of what is perceived to be a disagreement with richard spencer's mother and it seemedlike everything was fine, but according to his mother, bell was not the case and richard spencer's mother published an essay, encouraging people are basically saying that tonya had tried to extort her in the daily storm or jumped on night and said there is a jewish realtor and businesswoman who is trying to extort, the mother of which is spencer, who many of you likely know is a white supremacist and that led to these threats and sort of the culmination was a proposed march that was actually going to be led by white supremacists and on her doors. did you have a question? [inaudible] >> a couple questions. [inaudible] >> so folks have a son at how many incidents. i've been asked, what's the question. sorry. thank you for the reminder. the question is how do i choose these stories given the prevalence of hate violence in general and over the last two years. so folks have a sense as to how much hate violence actually happens in the united states. according to the fbi come in 2016 for exam

out of alexandria -- threw richard spencer out of alexandria.se] [no audio] -- [applause] when i and my co-volunteers rather at the delong together rally in d.c. we held -- families belong together rally we chanted, from palestine to mexico all the walls have got to go. let's say this together. from palestine to mexico, all the walls and got to go. from palestine to mexico, all the walls have got to go. from palestine to mexico, all the walls of got to go. thank you. [applause] we all know about the wall between the u.s. border and mexico. today i want to remind you about the apartheid wall that israel has built and continues to build. it is now 300 miles long. it separates palestinians in the west bank from the relatives in israel. it also cuts off palestinians from their farmland severely restrict their freedom of movement. because of all the military checkpoints palestinians in the west bank and east jerusalem cannot get to work, hospitals, schools, they cannot see families or friends or earn a proper living. they can't even drive the same ro

brimelow was actually someone that stephen miller and richard spencer brought to duke university wheny were both students there. miller was an undergraduate. stephan spencer was a graduate student. there's some evidence for it that spencer was kind of a mentor for stephen miller during that time. nermeen: where do you see this going, richard cohen? you've expressed concerns about the white nationalists who are in the white house, but talk about what has been going on outside as well. in different places around the country. >> well, i am concerned, of course, with white nationalism within the administration that i am outside of it. after charlottesville, we saw some of the players who have been prominent their kind of retreat into the background from the bad publicity as result of heather heyer's death. we saw the tech industry clamped down on them. at the same time, we saw you emergency -- new emergent elements of the whites from assist movement come to the four, particularly in places like portland, seattle, with the rise of a group called the proud boys. amy: i want to ask about wha

where is richard spencer today? he became more of a household name last year of course.role is he playing in this movement today? >> not much. i mean, he is of course a leader of sorts but he had a very rough year. after he got punched in the face on inauguration, he's been -- in washington, he became this sort of -- this warrior poet of the far right. he saw himself as this fighter and also this leader. and he milked that for a good year. >> punch a nazi meme was born. >> yeah. it was a good thing for him because he was no longer a suit, but he was a fighter. then he was hounded by far right protesters who demonstrated against and he lost his audience too. now he is being booted from social media and he's really lost his megaphone. >> thank you so much for the team. vegas tenfold and shermichael is going to stick with me. coming up, omarosa manigault newman goes all in against her former boss in an exclusive interview on nbc "meet the press." what she says about his mental state and about the secret tape she recorded of her firing. that's coming up next. nowhere. you do

shot israel kessler's charlottesville our richard spencer is not expected in washington so his ideas are . yes i mean america story please undoubtedly a white country we're headed in a very different direction but what we're saying rings true what we're saying cuts right to the heart of the matter and that's why people are attracted to us that's why we're growing hundreds of city and u.s. park service police will line the streets with one simple goal well to make sure be to make sure that nobody is injured and nothing gets broken barricades will play a key role police say they've learned lessons from charlottesville and their main goal will be to keep the two groups apart even as they converge by the hundreds in this relatively small space it's a colossal task counter-demonstrators are already filling the streets i think it's an absolute affront to human decency to bail out on these nazis and white supremacists on to come here and march in front of the white house on this somber anniversary a police force with perhaps more experience than any in the world in handling protests tries t

but from may 13, when richard spencer, who is a white nationalist, held the first torch light rally here at the anatue of robert e. lee, through to august 1d 12, there was real work at trying to counter this coming set of protests, but also to countermaller protests throughout the summer. >> sreenivasan: what are the changes that have taken place? i ean, there's kind of on two levels-- the changes, the preparations fr this specific weekend; and the kind of more systemic, and long-term chang. >> rght. so what we're seeing here this weekend is-- it's quite a tense atmosphere. there are lots and lots of police, as there were last year, but mowt of the dontown mall, most of the university is shut down. so there's a real sense that everything needs to be stopped beforehand. there's actually been a lot of legal work done to ensure that this year doesn't look liklast year. so part of that is that white nationalist groups have entered into an agreement we city not to come back in groups of two or more with weapons. so that has made theciy a little safer, in a sense, this year. ere's also been co

that was richard spencer there was a group called identity. nationalists the american guard. group the neo confederate. they did not participate this year and there was another . national movement so a lot of those very controversial groups that were involved in the. to this event john hendren washington for us thank you. vote counting has started in mali after the presidential runoff a polling station worker was killed in an attack by an armed group ended off of the country the first round of voting in july was also marred by violence with reaction workers killed and voting materials destroyed the incumbent abraham boubacar kater is expected to return to power opposition leader sissay who won nearly eighteen percent in the first round is alleging fraud mohamed vile has more from the capital bamako. the final hours of sunday have seen a little better turnout here in this polling center where i'm standing in marco in comparison to earlier in the day and also to what we saw on july twenty ninth mali has a bad history of turnouts and this one is not different apparently the oppo

shot israel kessler's charlottesville our richard spencer is not expected in washington so his ideas are. yes i mean america store at least undoubtedly a white country we're headed in a very different direction what we're saying rings true what we're saying cuts right to the heart of the matter and that's why people are attracted to us that's why we're growing hundreds of city and u.s. park service police will line the streets with one simple goal well to make sure be to make sure that nobody is injured and nothing gets broken barricades will play a key role police say they've learned lessons from charlottesville and their main goal will be to keep the two groups apart even as they converge by the hundreds in this relatively small space it's a colossal task counter-demonstrators are already filling the streets. i think it's an absolute affront to human decency to. the white supremacist honor to come here and marching for the white house on this song during a verse or e. a police force with perhaps more experience than any in the world in handling protest tries to march but not the ma

whether it is a speaker that is a bot spreading disinformation -- disinformation or is bigger like richard spencer who has power in that he is a man, has a platform, has money backing him. i am wondering what your thoughts are on the agnosticism that we have in our jurisprudence and freedom of expression regarding power and taking power or ignoring power in our decisions about what is protected expression or what should be in the united states. toward the discussion , especially having looking at technology, if you book on thed this algorithm of expressions, read this. code on creating is expressed online and what is ok online, it is important to consider. if you typed on facebook, men are trash, your facebook would be the activated at why is that considered facebook speech on facebook? because people who wrote the code on facebook are white men here it so it is about who has the power in different digital spaces. >> it is a great point, a great thing to consider. going back to one of my points about technology, that is where whatever we decided here, he gets messed up very quickly because, as you

richard spencer, a really well—known figure in that world, was telling people not to come out so peopleage not to come if they were tuned into those channels. also i think the amount of resista nce also i think the amount of resistance and the amount of security and the amount of confrontation they were likely to face in dc may have been a deterrent to seize some. kessler was there, we saw some pictures of him marching through the crowds, what did he say? he spoke briefly, didn't he? he spoke briefly, i didn't hear, i wasn't right next to him, and personally i think if you weren't next to him you couldn't hear him because he was drowned out by the protesters. my colleague was with him andi protesters. my colleague was with him and i understand he defended the actions from last year, the people in cha rlottesville, actions from last year, the people in charlottesville, and he also claimed oddly he was not part of a white supremacist movement, he wasn't racist, he was there simply for white civil rights. and this is not the end of the matter i suppose because you had protests in the north

for the 2016 lincoln club conference, regularly attended by well-known white nationalists like richard spencerare here. hello everyone, good evening. so before we talk about this former white house speech writer, i want to get your reaction to kwame jackson. he says it doesn't matter. doesn't matter. do you thing it matters, simone? >> don, i guess i agree that we don't need a tape. we have a tape from the white house earlier today. but i guess -- we don't need the tape. but i think we should be concerned with is what is actually going on in the white house? the things that donden is not tweeting about like the judges, the cavanaugh nomination and on down the line. we don't need the tape because donald trump told us who he was a long time ago. >> he basically said what was happing in the white house. he said it was a menstrual show. >> i've said that. yeah, no, i've made that reference before and i think i called them political menstruals because this seems to entertain donald trump. i agree that if the tape exists that it would make a difference in a different way. i think during the 2016 cam

i can tell you what dade duke and richard spencer and matthew have said. the current administration has given them the go ahead. given them a thumbs up. given them a wink and nod. that's their words. not mine. >> tim, i mean, isn't that the issue here? i mean, i spent the opening five minutes of this show flat out calling the president a racist, but there are people who were using his using of the presidency to be open about their bigotry. >> this is the thing. if donald trump were a remotedly decedent human being and felt as though he were being misunderstood by david duke, misunderstood by richard spencer. what he would do is go before the american people and go, oh, i'm so sorry. this is not what i mean at all. and i absolutely reject every aspect of what you're saying, but the reality is he is slowly at the public rhetoric around immigration and crime and the very issues neo nazis have been talking about for years, he's capping their rhetoric. that's why they feel emboldened. not only is he not condemning them and saying oh, my god you totally are misu

. >> the honorable richard spencer, secretary of the navy, in the name of the united states navy. >>of now, the wreaths will be laid by group. please step forward as your name is called. [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] lieutenant general christoph cannoli, commanding general u.s. europe, -- u.s. army europe, in the name of the u.s. army. lieutenant general carsten jacobson, commander of the field army and deputy chief of the german army, in the name of the german army. >> we are pleased again to welcome representatives from 5th marine regiment and 6th marine regiment, the two u.s. marine regiments that fought in belleau wood. [ speaking french ] colonel andrew monroe, in the name of the fifth marine regiment. and colonel matthew reid in the name of the sixth marine regiment. >> mister edwin fountain, vice chair of the world war i centennial commission, in the name of the world war i centennial commission. mister steve arnold, manager and

speaker for the 2016 menken club conference, a small annual conference attended by people like richard spencerscuss. hello, everyone. good evening. >> before we talk about this former white house speech writer, i wanted to hear your reaction to my conversation with kwame jackson. he says it doesn't matter. i i? i did that, i know i did, in one of my takes at the beginning of the show. it doesn't matter -- do you think it matters, simone? >> don, i guess agree with kwame in the sense that i don't need the tape to assess the president's views on people of color. i mean, we have a tape from the white house earlier today. so i guess i -- we don't need the tape, what we should be colonaled with is the type -- what is actually going on in this white house, the policies that are coming out of the administration, the things donald trump is not tweeting about, like the judges, the carve gnaw nomination down the line. we don't need the tape, donald trump told us who he was a long time ago. >> he said what was happening in the white house, tara, he said it was a menstrual show, basically just sort of --

. >> i can tell you what david duke and richard spencer and jason kessler and matthew h have said isthe current administration has given them the go ahead, thumb's up, wink and nod, that's their words not mine. >> that's potent coming from a mother who lost her child there last year. how does that fit into this? the quote, political accountability for what may be separate acts of violence. >> i mean, what we've seen since donald trump was on the campaign trail is extreme white supremacy, affinity towards white nationalism. he's allowed for white people to talk terribly about black people, about muslims. so when that young person was killed by the protester while it was shocking and disturbing we knew that donald trump created the environment for that to happen. >> and so what is the activism that turns this? or is this by necessity defensive activism? in other words you both are involved in a organization with a wide impact, black lives matter, is a term discussed all over the world, but talking about fighting white nationalists at grass roots level is quite different from the work o

. >> the honorable richard spencer, secretary of the navy, in the name of the united states navy. >>ease step forward when your name is called. [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language ] >> lieutenant general christopher cavoil in the name of the u.s. army. general robert b. neller, commandant of the united states marine corps in the name of the united states marine corps. lieutenant general carson jacobson, commander of the field army and deputy chief of the german army in the name of the german army. >> we are pleased again to welcome representatives from the fifth and sixth marine regiments, the two u.s. marine regiments that fought in belleau wood. [ speaking foreign language ] >> colonel andrew monroe in the name of the fifth marine regiment. and colonel matthew reid in the name of the sixth marine regiment. >> mr. edwin felton, vice chairman of the world war 1 centennial commission in the name of the world war i centennial commission. mr. steve arnold, manager and in the n

see chavez feel kessler's charlottesville our richard spencer is not expected in washington so his ideas are . yes i mean america story please undoubtedly a white country were headed in a very different direction what we're saying rings true what we're saying cuts right to the heart of the matter and that's why people are attracted to us that's why we're growing hundreds of city and u.s. park service police will line the streets with one simple goal well to make sure be to make sure that nobody is injured and nothing gets broken barricades will play a key role police say they've learned lessons from charlottesville and their main goal will be to keep the two groups apart even as they converge by the hundreds in this relatively small space it's a colossal task counter-demonstrators are already filling the streets i think it's an absolute affront to human decency to be allowed on these nazis and white supremacists on it's a calm here and march in front of the white house on this somber anniversary a police force with perhaps more experience than any in the world in handling protests tries

that event is regularly attended by well-known white nationalists such as richard spencer, as you see. he says his speech there was not objectionable. the white house has confirmed his departure now. joining me now, cnn senior editor andrew kaczynski. i understand the white house also asked you not to report this, for cnn to hold off on this reporting. tell me more. >> so i reached out to the white house probably early last week asking about it. they told me they needed several days to look into it. thursday they told me they'd have something by friday morning. all friday i'm pinging the white house deputy coms director. he keeps telling me he'll get back to me and very late friday, he told me that he no longer worked at the white house. now, he wouldn't tell me when he left the white house because he said they don't comment on personnel matters, which is odd because they comment on personnel matters all the time. but he just said that he couldn't say when he left but his e-mail for the white house, which worked all last week, was deactivated on friday. >> and so do we know anything a

mankin conference which is regularly attended by well known white nationalists such as richard spencer can see here. bayty says that the speech there was not objectionable, but the white house has confirmed the departure. and joining us is andrew kaczynski, and i understand that the white house as you tried to confirm this story or his participation, the white house also tried to discourage you from reporting on the story? >> well, what happened is that i reached out to the white house early last week asking with the evidence that we had that he had spoken at the conference and listed on a schedule for it, and recap of it sort of alluded to him speak iing. i reached out to them and i asked about it. they said that they needed a couple of days to look into it. on thursday they told me that they would get me something on friday and then all through friday, it was me playing phone tag with the white house deputy communications director, and me calling him and he would call me right back, and they the really delayed this sort of until 6:30 on friday when they told me that he had left the w

department of homeland security had direct ties to several prominent white supremacists, including richard spencer. the analyst ian m. smith worked at dhs up until last week. the news comes just two weeks after white house speechwriter darren beattie was fired after news broke that he had spoken at a conference alongside prominent white nationalists. in immigration news, about 160 workers in texas were detained in a ice raid targeting the trailer manufacturing company load trail. one worker described ice agents raiding the factorory from every entrance. he said -- "they drew their guns and told everyone to hit the ground." california governor jerry brown has signed legislation making california the first state in the nation to abolish cash bail. brown said he signed the bill to ensure that the rich and poor alike are treated fairly. more than 48,000 people are currently being held in california because they can not post bail. but many criminal justice advocates, including the aclu of california, came out against the legislation warning it may result in more people being locked up while awaiting tr

all of the groups that showed up in charlottesville one year ago and they are not here today richard spencer the co organizer of that event is not taking a role here a group called identity europa these were sort of preppy white nationalists all wearing the same clothes last time around the american guard of iowa is not here the neo confederate league of this south and the nazi national socialist movement so a lot of those groups that have given that rally such a bad name have not joined in and that's why this morning at that virginia. subway station we saw jason kesler get out with a very small group of people we marched with him once he got off of the subway on this and here in washington and he was just completely surrounded by police all the way and so were his people all the way here so nobody has really come very close to them or without the police protection they would be completely overwhelmed by this massive crowd and that. it's just what this crowd wants they want to drown out that message and so far they've been pretty successful and john earlier when when the spratly was organize

. >> i can tell you what david duke and richard spencer and jason kessler and i believe matthew have said, that is the current administration has given them the go ahead, given them a wink and a nod. that's their words, not mine. >> i'm joined tonight with the host of make it plain, columnist for "the daily beast" and an author, artist, activist. the book "how to be black" relevant here. i start with you. there is so much bad news following donald trump. there is a play book that we know and some people say he is president, so they will report on the tweet of the attack. your view of what is important, what we should be focussed on when we go into the weekend. >> i think there is two things. one is the reminder when this president needs a distraction, he hits one of two buttons, blame immigrants or attack rich, black athletes. the other is the contrast. the people he's attacking are doing a better job at leading than he is. last week he attacking lebron james. so our supposed leader is throwing little children in jail. lebron james puts them in schools. this president on a daily basi

amy: one of the organizers of the rally and richard spencer. >> right. my understanding is southern poverty law center had issued warnings, but they were not being heeded. i think many people thought, as i did, that basically, the alt-right and the not so new nazis are basically buffoons and idiots and did not really take them seriously. from what i have seen and observed since then, is that presenterally will themselves as so outrageous that nobody will take them seriously. they will come with a serious intent, but they generally will --ack if they're going to most likely try a lethal attack as people are relaxing, when people are letting down their guard saying, oh, they're leaving. i know in florida, they actually into anbers get altercation where they were firing a gun at people at a bus as rally participants from both sides were leaving. it seems to be a pattern. this is what they did and charlottesville as well. amy: is it a question of corporate leasing or perhaps protecting was a firm says, for example, w what happened in berkeley, california, ar

richard spencer wants america to become israel. tesler wants to do this. and they call themselves a democracy. short of a thing genocidal or colonial state, internment island just like home. and i stand before you as founder of the queer palestinian empowerment network, and an organization the cknowledge palestinian and lgbtq community. who identify as queer -- estinian, trans heterosexual gay. we celebrate and acknowledge our community in its value and diversity. empower the palestinian queers. right. so however, i'm going to move on. to expand on this. we don't have equality. who is with know? now, a double face to look speaking about situations. the palestinian organizers, all day in chicago, and in ohio. don't you understand this. they de naturalizing society,n pillars of just because they are palestinian. this with me. say this with me. from palestine to mexico, walls have got to go. [chanting in repeat] palestine to mexico. make something perfectly clear. you see there is a certain organization that gets away they have done to the arab, must slim and

should charlottesville kessler's charlottesville out richard spencer is not expected in washington so his ideas are. yes i mean america story please undoubtedly a white country we're headed in a very different direction what we're saying rings true what we're saying cuts right to the heart of the matter and that's why people are attracted to us that's why we're growing hundreds of city and u.s. park service police will line the streets with one simple goal all to make sure be to make sure that nobody is injured and nothing gets broken barricades will play a key role. police say they've learned lessons from charlottesville and their main goal will be to keep the two groups apart even as they converge by the hundreds in this relatively small space it's a colossal task counter-demonstrators are already filling the streets i think it's an absolute affront to human decency to even allow these nazis and white supremacist started to come here and march in front of the white house on this somber anniversary a police force with perhaps more experience than any in the world in handling protests

richard spencer wants america to become israel. jason kessler wants to do this, what they are doing to palestinians to every single one of you today. and they call themselves a democracy. but it's nothing short of a genocidal or colonial state, an internment island just like home. and i stand before you as the founder of the queer palestinian empowerment network, and an organization we strive to exemplify and acknowledge the palestinian and lgbtq community, palestinian women beyond palestine who identify as queer, trans palestinians. heteronormative . we celebrate and acknowledge our community in its value and diversity. we need to empower the palestinian queers. right. so, however, i am going to move on. you know about precaution. i am going to expand on this. right now we need quality. who is with me? a couple of things to look out for. has developed a process under ice to start the naturalizing people. naturalizearted to de american citizens, and their test subjects were palestinian organizers. one in chicago and one in ohio. do

would have for people making the argument in april facebook had banned the white nationalist richard spencer the news, not really. so the question i have is what's different now and the only difference is alex jones is pretty good at making raucous. >> you think they can make those distinctions? >> i think they have to. it's facebook's decision to make and their users can react when they do. paul: big apple declares war on uber voting to cast the number of ride-hailing and i woke up in memphis and told... (harmonica interrupts) ...and told people about geico... (harmonica interrupts) how they could save 15% or more by... (harmonica interrupts) ...by just calling or going online to geico.com. (harmonica interrupts) (sighs and chuckles) sorry, are you gonna... (harmonica interrupts) everytime. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. when you rent from national... it's kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it's a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you're guaranteed to have

would have for people making the argument in april facebook had banned the white nationalist richard spencerd it make the news, not really. so the question i have is what's different now and the only difference is alex jones is pretty good at making raucous. >> you think they can make those distinctions? >> i think they have to. it's facebook's decision to make and their users can react when they do. paul: big apple declares war on uber voting to cast the number of ride-hailing and in every family, small conversations can make a big inpact. i grew up on tour with my parents. kind of different,but we bonded over music and we talked. honest conversatiions like when my dad shared his experiences as an alcoholic. your honesty gave me a sense of integrity that i wanted in my own life. and i wanted you to know from someone who's been in recovery more than 30 years now,that hard work is what creates success, not alcohol or other drugs, in whatever you do. talk.they hear you. paul: big apple putting the squeeze on rapidly growing industry this week capping the number of door-hire vehicles it allows

richard spencer said, getting his base to seriously discuss white dispoti white dispotdispossessions.can and central american nations as "s" hole countries. don't call american black athletes sons of bitches and un-american for being uninherently american. they're our sons and brothers and countrymen. don't rip away immigrant kids and put them in cages. and please know, i don't call of this out to attack you or to bring you down. the truth is, mr. president, this is much bigger than you. this is about us, about america, he pleasure i b e pluribus unum. don lemon starts right now. >> i'm not done with you are you christopher. i mean chris. >> yes, pal. >> i cannot get that 20 minutes of my life back. >> i hope that it was edifying for you and you saw how difficult it is to get even the most obvious falsehoods and proof of lying to be owned and accepted by this white house. >> they know, and the president does as well, and kellyanne, that you're not attacking the president. they know that deep down. but they can never admit it. doesn't play well for the base. you asked kellyanne conway,

i can tell you what david duke and richard spencer and jason kessler, and i believe matthew has said, administration has given them the go-ahead, the thumbs up, the wink and a nod. that's their words, not mine. i have no information about it one way or the other. >> okay. susan bro, remembering your daughter, heather heyer, as we all are today, and this weekend. i appreciate you coming on the show and joining us here. thank you for making the time. >> thank you so much for having me. it is an honor. >> on sunday, of course, the one-year mark of the deadly fights in charlottesville. msnbc will be sharing the story of a former white supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others. "breaking hate" airs sunday at 9:00 eastern on msnbc. >>> coming up on this show after the break, the final frontier might be the next frontier for the pentagon, but what will the space force actually do? who is picking up the tab? who is skeptical about the new military branch? what has to happen before it is ready for launch? that's next. eg did not look rig. eg did not look rig. i was just finish

richard spencer told me right after the election that that was their big challenge going forward.'t think they really figured out how to do it yet. i still think they're very much trying to find their place within the larger movement. they've retreated online, sure, but there's still a really healthy debate going on online. their podcast neck is hutwork i. the far right movement wasn't the end, itself. the far right movement was a vehicle to bring these ideas into the mainstream. as i think my co-panelists pointed out, you have a slew of basically white nationalists, white supremacists, candidates for office this year. steve west, i believe, his name, was just won the republican primary in missouri, and he's holding basically white supremacist opinions. so i think that is the real effect of the movement we're seeing today. >> vegas, great to speak with you. thank you very much. vegas tenold joining me in new york. >>> still ahead, omarosa manigault newman, a secret tape of her firing of white house chief of staff john kelly. she revealed that tape exclusively on nbc's "meet the pr