former pennsylvania senator rick santorum is now a guy who's christmas movie is about a -- rick santorum proved that a guy that had once been chased out of big-time politics because of his hard word social conservativism, the man on dog guy, a man who was famous only for his anti-gay beliefs and had lost hiss -- you only need to sit out a few years before the republican party would be ready to have you back after that sort of defeat. if that party was once again looking for a fire and brimstone type as it's potential savior, santorum came in second in the race for president last year -- it seemed as more of an indication as it was also the sign of a broader embrace on the right, of rick santorum brand culture war conservativism, and that includes being against contraception. about five years ago, and anity abortion group called the american life league started organizing protests around the theme of the pill kills, the pill as in the birth control pill. their theechl was the birth control pill kills babies, in 2009, the birth control pill kills women. the birth control pill kills the env

candidate like newt gingrich and rick santorum would have had to close down earlier had they not support of wealthy people. i think there's no question that heading into 2016, billionaires and millionaires we talked about feel a little bit burned because they feel as though their money wasn't particularly spent in the general election but they feel even more urgently they want to try to find the right person who can fuse the republican establishment with the republican grassroots to take on whoever the democratic nominee is in 2016. >> fascinating stuff. the book is great. thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thanks marimaria. up next "on the money," holiday airfare s soaring to new height. you may be a click away from scoring a cheap flight. find out how. stay with us. at farmers, we make you smarter about insurance.

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please welcome senator rick santorum. (cheers and applause) senator, thank you so much for coming on. great to see you. all right, thank you so much for being my guest tonight. >> my pleasure. >> stephen: i appreciate you coming along. i don't get a lot of republicans on here because they know i'm going to agree with them the entire time. everybody knows former two-term senator for pennsylvania, used to be in congress. you were one of the leading lights of the republican party running in 2012. you came damn close, sir. let's make some news. (laughter) let's make some news right now. i am -- are you running in 2016? >> i am not -- sure. >> stephen: let's get you sure. let's get you sure, okay? remember, this is how the republican party works. i don't know if now you know how the party works but the last guy standing after the nominee is the next nominee! you know, mccain got it after bush, okay? you were the last guy standing when you lost to -- what was the name of the dude you lost to? i forget his name. kit-katny? you l

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>> from rick perry to rick santorum.he guy that's man of the moment right now is chris christie with this huge re-election victory in new jersey. we write a lot about chris christie in "double down. for readers interested in getting a full well rounded picture of chris christie including strengths and weaknesses were things romney team identified when trying to decide to put him on the presidential ticket. you'll see a picture of chris christie that one will come into view for american voters in a way it hasn't before. >> can he beat hillary? >> it's an interesting question. i think the other 48 states would just be delighted to have new york versus new jersey in the general election. if you survey the rest of the field, the reason chris christie is getting so much attention now is a lot of people in the party look at him as someone who can go toe to toe with her and what happened last time when a bunch of very wealthy people around the country names familiar to your viewers like charles schwab and other billionaires and

burn. >> hi, i'm rick santorum. >> santorum knows a thing or two about bringing people in. >> i'm not miracle man you remember. >> rick santorum's christmas candle is a box office bomb. >> what is this christmas candle? >> it's not like voodoo stuff. >> quite frankly, it stinks. >> you were speaking from the sweater vested heart. >> hated it! >> and today's top trender. back on track. >> obama care has been on a roll over oh the last couple weeks. >> this website is it going to get fixed, and we are going to be signing people up. >> the federal exchange is working better on a day-to-day basis. the obama administration has its website set on december 1st. >> the system will not work perfectly on december 1st, but it will operate much better than it did in october. >> folks have fought us every step of the way, but we have kept on going. >> by the end of the month, healthcare.gov will be able to operate at the capacity that was originally intended, approximately 50,000 users on the site at the same time. >> we just kept on going. we don't stop. >> joining me now is wendell potter, senio

i'm looking at you guys louie gohmert rick santorum especially rick santorum the republican party has won the election after election over the past few decades by taking this sort of belief and make you main campaign winning wedge issues but while people like george w. bush a new gingrich talk the talk about being pro-life and anti-gay at its core the republican party could care less about social conservatives that's because at its core the republican party is really just the party of the billionaire class everyone else is just along for the ride and that is the subject of tonight's daily tick. if you think that republicans really care about every embryo turn into a living breathing baby nine months later and you've been fooled by the republican party the investigations by the website r.h. reality check and politico have found that the koch the puss aka charles and david koch have spent tens of millions of dollars from their personal fortune to fund the anti choicer forced birth movement according to our age reality checks adele's stan tax documents show that the koch to puss directed

>> i like both, i like rick santorum, he knows more about mahmoud ahmadinejad and chavez's cooperationle latin america, his national security credentialing outweigh every candidate that ran, and also people don't realize he was at age 38, the guy that managed the reform of welfare. at 38, he got that passed and clinton signed it. neil: that is right, very good, foster, watch closely, you are very influential. foster friess. >> up next, another hope it weighs heavy voters, it has hasn't hahard to watch, sheryl casony p next weighing early polls, and the exit numbers, and whether health care ises renailing beyond some obvious states, like virginia, to a bunch of states, she is next. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked himp. it found out e doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots and adiums. but, of course, 's a good listener too. [ female annouer ] today cisco is connecting the

rick santorum had.e time it's only within they are close we realize how flawed and imperfect and human our election system is. that's the back drop playing out in virginia. we know there is a new governor elect, terry mcauliffe and a governor elect and we have absolutely no idea who will win the other race for statewide office, the race for attorney general. current republican general ken cuccinelli lost tuesday's governor's election. in that job, attorney general is important in virginia for a lot of reasons, including the bake fact it's an established launching pad for governor officially the republican ag candidate is in the lead by about 1,200 votes. those results do not tell the full story. the full story involves my kind of people, numbers obsessed political sauvants. two in particular, dave wasserman an ben trivet goes by the twitter hand him not larry sabtow. they return fairfax county. it seemed to them like not enough ab tent see ballots were counted. after they noticed, a local congressman pi

santorum would have had to close their candidacies down early if they didn't have foster freese and rick santorumey maged to elongate it. i think no question into 2016 there's billionaires and miionaires we talked about they feel burned. ey feel as thoug their mone wasn't spent who confusedhe republican establishment with the reas grass roots to take whoever the democratic nominee is in 2016. >> the book is great. thank you so much for your time. we appreciate . >>> up next, a holiday air fares areoaring to new heights but u might be a like away from >>> 25 million americans will trek home for the holidays. viting won't be cheap. travel costsave come up and last mute deals are harder to find. oining us now is tral and leisure mazine edir mark orwoll good to see you. thanks for joining us. the price of travel is expected to rise acss t board for frights d hotels. it's going up 3%. air fare over 8% over last year. you can expect to pay a little more this year than last year. >> why? what are your tips for fding savings? >> the airles candoit.>> frds they don't need to doit. go to the big travel web

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ryan, rick santorum is another likely rerun for 2016. he appeared this morning on "morning joe."ill fare any better in 2016, should he choose to run again? >> probably not. because he's just so unpopular with his colleagues and republican donors and the entire consultant class he would have to, you know, win at least a portion of over. in order to be a viable candidate. >> ryan, why is he so unpopular? >> people think he's a jerk. people think he's arrogant -- >> i think that's a good reason. >> they just -- you know, they think he's extremely self righteous and just not a lot of fun to be around. >> what's interesting is that, you know, as a reporter who often covers social conservatism, i sort of cheered that rick santorum stayed in the republican primaries for so long. but if i were a republican and wanted a republican candidate to win, i would blame him in part for making mitt romney have to make all those statements about planned parenthood and birth control and so on that ended up really hurting him in the national election. >> absolutely. irin carmon, professor peterson an

>> meet rick santorum, the movie executive.lows out hollywood hotshot rick santorum's movie plot. >> the town with a set of miraculous candles so the true meaning of christmas. >> not really. it's not like voodoo stuff. >> now go to voodoo let you do. >> miraculous candles isn't voodoo. it's hannukah. >> today's top trender looking a lot like shutdown. >> january 15 will put us at the front door of another budget shutdown. >> sorry we're closed. >> republicans have no plans to prevent it from happening. >> it is without a vision. >> quite frankly it stinks. >> america's top cheese head is running for the hills. ryan is failing to present a gop proposal. >> i am the owner of this --. of -- of this mess. >> so our job is to listen to the american people. >> i don't know. if chairman paul ryan and speaker boehner are listening. >> as the clock ticks closer to december 13th deadline for a bipartisan deal. >> we're trying to find common ground but we're not there yet. >> joining us tonight congressman steny hoyer of maryland the hou

joining us now, former senator and chairman of the conservative group voices, rick santorum. good to see you today. >> thank you, shannon. >> i know you have walked through these topics many times when you were serving on the senate armed services committee in discussions there. what do you make of the latest developments here, no real deal out of geneva and iran's president pushing back, saying there's a red line for their national interests to continue this nuclear program? >> well, here's the amazing thing, the french seem to have stepped in and saved us from making a bad deal. i mean, when the french are now demanding more from the iranians than the united states, i think it tells you the position the united states is in. it's really a position of weakness, it's wanting the deal so badly, maybe for political purposes to avert attention away from what's going on here at home, but you have the israelis very clearly opposed to this. when the secretary of state talks about he's going to take the best interests of our allies, well, our biggest ally in the region, the one who i

that's why a guy like rick santorum, who wasn't really a strong or viable candidate, could give somebody romney, who on paper should be a strong candidate, such a run for his money. that's why chris christie, an obvious choice for republicans, who is going to be re-elected practically by acclimation tomorrow, is not considered in a very good position to gain that nomination. >> now, of course, one of the other cute tidbits, it exposes the name of romney's veepters. chris christie, referred to as puffer fish, tim pawlenty, lake fish, rob portman, filet owe fish. marco rubio, piscibo. discuss. >> that's something to drop in my lap like that. well, they like goldfish crackers in the office and i guess they, you know owe there's a few people on every campaign have all kinds of enjoyment coming up with antics the public never hears about. i'm glad when this first rough draft of history is done we get to hear a few of these things come out. >> with, i mean, i wonder whether the romney folks risked being punched in the face calling chris christie puffer fish. i don't think that would go over we

the iowan who voted for him, let's not forget rick santorum won the iowa caucus.hey thinking, christie is not as pure as i like, but, hell, this time i want to win? well, they might be thinking that and chris christie certainly hopes they'll be thinking that. my guess, if they voted for santorum, they will look for somebody like ted cruz. again you have this division highlighted. >> but then you lose. >> yes, you do. >> i know that. you do lose. air ergo the testimonies win. >> the republicans are still obsessed with purity, the day after the landslide victory, sean hannity let loose on the new jersey governor. >> if you want to look at a liberal record on issues like guns, gay marriage, controversial appointments. this governor has no idea what will hit him. if you can't beat hillary clinton in the exit polls of new jersey on the day you are the most popular on your state, don't think it's going to get better. it's likely going to get worse. he's not in the main stream of conservati conservatism. >> michael crawly, chris christie standing up to that mind set will

governor perry, governor christie, rick santorum, paul ryan, mike huckabee are people who have been in one or both books and part of the narrative going forward. we tried to do it in a novelistic style undergirded by high journalistic standards. we think some people like them because it's a serialization overtime to think about the same cast of characters stepping off the stage in smaller roles but other people stepping forward with a continuity has been rewarding for us. i'm going to stop there and part because i want to make sure we leave time for q&a and that is the longest i have spoken on the book tour without someone yelling out you lied. [laughter] it's super nice of you to get up early and come out and talk to us. we will take questions now. [applause] >> i'm going to moderate the q&a. please keep your questions reef if you can so we can get through as many as we can. >> hello. my question to either one of you or both of you is, what do you think hillary clinton's strengths and weaknesses for a presidential dead are? thank you. >> it think of hillary and then decides to run for

. >> ron, here's the question i'd like to know -- the iowan who voted for rick santorum in the 2012 cycleand let's not forget santorum won the iowa caucus, when that same individual goes to sflovote in , are they thinking -- geez, christie's not as pure as i like, but, hell, this time i want to win. >> well, they might be thinking that. and chris christie certainly hopes he's going to be thinking that. if they voted for santorum, they're going to be looking for ted cruz or someone like that. you'll have this division all the way through. >> but then you lose. >> yes. >> because ted cruz can't be elected president. >> i know. i know that. you do lose. and ergo, the democrats win. >> to this win, christie has made one thing clear. that republicans are still obsessed with purity. the day after christie's landslide victory, sean hannity let louis on the new jersey governor. >> if you want to look at a liberal record on issues like guns, gay marriage, controversial appointments, this governor has no idea what's going to hit him. if you can't beat hillary clinton in the exit polls in new jersey

well, by that measure, it would leave out some gop notables including paw ryan, rick santorum, and tednd marco rubio. if senator cruz wants to leave congress, he might try his hand at comedy. on thursday, he tried to play off the idea that the government shutdown was not all his fault. >> i didn't want a shutdown. throughout the whole thing, i said, we shouldn't have a shutdown. folks here with disagree. repeatedly, i voted to keep the government open. >> okay. well, you have to be tough to work as a member of the white house cabinet. here's ray lahood, former transportation secretary. >> did you ever tell rahm to go to hell? >> about once a week. when he told me to go -- i told him to go to hell. in plit company, we don't say what rahm actually said. >>> better late than never. the gettysburg address. by ath the time, the patriots news in harrisburg, pennsylvania, published a review of the speech calling it, silly. this week, they printed a retraction. >>> this sunday, on "meet the press" david gregory has an exclusive with nancy pelosi. don't miss it. >>> if it's friday, it's kevin c

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world government thing it couldn't be any farther than that from the truth but you see people like rick santorum as recently as a few days ago value again to defeat this for no reason even though you have people like bob dole and you have better ins who think ok i might have what's the needs provided for me here i might be able to get into buildings wherever need you but when i travel around the world i don't have those same that same access to to disability services so why don't the united states take a lead on this and it's a shame that we're too tied to conspiracy theories to do anything about it oh my goodness veteran this those serving since two thousand and one have an unemployment rate at ten percent our national average is seven point three veterans make up seven percent of our population but thirteen percent of the homeless female vets are the fastest growing segment of the entire homeless population considering all these problems don't you think it's time for a new g.i. bill i mean f.d.r. and harry truman and republican to eisenhower did some real good with the last bill . oh absolutel

world government thing it couldn't be any farther than that from the truth but you see people like rick santorum as recently as a few days ago valued games to defeat this for no reason even though you have people like bob dole and you have better ins who think ok i might have what's the needs provided for me here i might be able to get into buildings wherever need you but when i travel around the world i don't have those same that same access to to disability services so why not the united states take a lead on this it's a shame that we're too tired to conspiracy theories to do anything about it oh my goodness a veteran this those serving since two thousand and one have an unemployment rate of ten percent our national average is seven point three veterans make up seven percent of our population but thirteen percent of the homeless female vets are the fastest growing segment of the entire homeless population considering all these problems don't you think it's time for a new g.i. bill i mean f.d.r. and harry truman and republican white eisenhower did some real good with the last bill. oh absolutel

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumthose were his last list. where is this gender gap coming from? how did the republicans lose this governorship? nbc news again, projects tonight that the winner of the gubernatorial race is mcauliffe. stay with us. msnbc's election coverage continues with the last word and lawrence o'donnell. >>> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes and that epic music can only mean one thing, it is election night in america. we're following a couple of key races.

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumthose were his last list. where is this gender gap coming from? how did the republicans lose this governorship?

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumthose were his last list. where is this gender gap coming

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumthose were his last list. where is this gender gap coming from? how did the republicans lose this governorship? nbc news again, projects tonight that the winner of the gubernatorial race is mcauliffe gubernatorial race in virginia is terry mcauliffe. "first look" is up next. >>> good wednesday morning. right now on first look, the voters have spoken with the winners in the books and the country set on a new path. >>> and the man at the center of the dolphin's bullying scandal speaks out. >>> a drunken stupor, a crack pipe and the man who says he feels a thousand pounds lighter after apologizing. plus senator rand paul on what will make people leave him the hell alone. a and a look at the earth once the icecaps melt. we start with election day highlights in two high profile races. first to virginia where democrat

in a sense, i wonder have they nominated someone like rick santorum if that base would have demanded they shift further to the right, if that's possible. >> right. >> it makesch more embolding, right? we elected more congressional folks so what we need is more of them, so how do we get out? it's mainly a vocal and a state game they are playing as opposed to the national game. we didn't warn the president, so what, on if local levels and state legislatures in congress our congressional representatives are who we want. twhoots they are pushing for. >> raul was talking about the lack of party elders right now is seismic sites. as an example. if you had to say who is a republican party. this is jeb bush on twitter this woke. you may have heard him emerge the embassies as the vatican and why would the president close our embassy and the vatican, hopefully it's not retry bougs for catholics opposing obama care? this is the elderly. >> obama care is the answer to everything, a republican, you ask them what the weather is like, they'll tell you obama care stinks. that's the line they use for

all the way over to rick santorum, i suppose. another percentage said they don't know.nd that divide could last. a number of conservative republicans thought to be potential 2016 contenders themselves like ted cruz, rand paul, and marco rubio have hit christie as a moderate. last night sarah palin told sean hannity republicans shouldn't settle for the candidate the establishment wants. let's listen to this rhino hunting that's already going on thanks to that person from alaska who loves this kind of talk. >> this is not a coronation. this process hasn't begun yet, and there are establishment people telling tea party conservatives he's the only guy that can win. what's your reaction? >> those establishment people have been quite wrong, it seems especially in recent days. haven't they? we certainly, though, don't have to settle for any candidate, any politician that would go along to get along with an agenda that stifles our economy and would strip any of our freedoms. that are constitutionally protected. >> what is she talking about? anyway, scott hopster from connecticu

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumt list. where is this gender gap coming from? how did the republicans lose this governorship? nbc news again, projects tonight that the winner of the g

surrogates were senator marco rubio, anti-abortion guy, rand paul, bobby jindal, mike huckabee, rick santorumt list. where is this gender gap coming from? how did the republicans lose this governorship? nbc news again, projects tonight that the winner of the gub fla torrial race is mcauliffe. stay with us. msnbc's election coverage continues with the last word and lawrence o'donnell. america. much of america. in new jersey, chris christie re-elected to a second term as governor. we are awaiting a victory speech from governor christie. likely within this hour. in virginia, nbc news project, democratic terry mcauliffe pulled off a narrow victory. defeated, ken cuccinelli, with 96% of the vote in. mcauliffe, has 47%. and libertarian candidate, has 7%. nbc news also projects that democrat ralph northam is winner of the lieutenant-governor race. political director, chuck todd is at the headquarters in tyson's corner, virginia. chuck, how did this race find its way to a terry mcauliffe viy

republican guy rand paul, and anti-abortion republican governor guy bobby jindal, and anti-abortion rick santorumand the anti-abortion family, the duggars, 19 kids and counting. there was another one brought in, a blast from the past. the long-time republican governor, scott walker. governor scott walker did not draw a particularly good crowd for ken cuccinelli in virginia in the closing days of the campaign. but not for a lack of trying or a lack of congruant politics between the two men. governor scott walker is up for re-election next year. if he runs for election, as expected, that will be his third election in four years. the fight over union rights in the recall effort made wisconsin the center of the political universe for a while. governor walker surviving the effort. his win in the race made him a national republican darling. so now he pretty clearly is running for re-election in wisconsin. but also he is just as clearly apparently running for president. he has a running for president style book that is just out, titled "unintimidated" so you can hear the story of his awesome amazingness

i like paul ryan and i like rick santorum.e someone like chris christie he is not going to stand much of a chance at all because he is in line with president obama too much as of late. i don't think we can defeat either vice president joe biden or hillary clinton. either one of them could be the nominee or they might get on the same ticket together, which is what i am afraid of. i don't think that governor christie could defeat either bice -- either vice president biden or hillary clinton. my money is on arizona senator jeff lake. host: chris is next on the line for democrats. e --o you see in 2016 2016? i think it is too early to tell, but i want to make a remark about paul ryan pot i listen to it very carefully. i felt he gave a lot of generalizations. he did not give any ideas of what would happen and what the republicans had to offer for health care. it didn't seem that it mattered to him. what would happen. he talked about the war on as if he somehow had a better idea but i think we have ofe poor people now because the --

rick santorum, says not a surprise. senator is coming up in a movie that appears across the country. got a little competition coming out. >> what would that be? >> i don't know. "hunger games." which gets me back to mcribs. your thoughts first on the mcrib. >> okay, you know me, i'm honest. i've never had a mcrib. is that a disqualifier -- >> anyone else to go to? can we move on? >> okay. thank you all for having me on. i appreciate it. >> you just lost the american people. >> no. honesty. you got to give me something for honesty. i could have ribbed it up. i could have said, oh, wow, what a terrible thing. >> you could have. we led with it. could have followed up with it. >> but, but, didn't. give me some credit for that. >> all right. well, this whole healthcare thing, which i suspect is the reason why mcdonald's is stopping the mcrib thing but that's a separate show you. predicted dismiss said this is what happens when government gets so big. this has got to even surprise you. >> not at all. first off, this bill pass

>> what's interesting, before, good luck getting anyone confirmed other than maybe rick santorum to be the head of h.h.s. it also plays in well with the whole i-pab. that was called the original death panel. the group of bureaucrats is going to try to lower medicare costs. now it's going to make it easier for obama to fill those positions. previously, even if he had not been able to fill those positions, it would have fallen to sebelius to be the one woman i-pab. he couldn't fire her then. that would completely ruin it because he couldn't get another h.h.s. secretary. it gives him a little bit more latitude. >> chris, how long sebelius going to last? i think we ran it again tonight. she's going out, she's in someplace around the country, talking to somebody and they're trying to dial up the system and the system breaks down while she's there, the system breaks down. there's a limit to how many times -- i believe this is it. maybe i'm wrong. how many times can she tour around and go online and have the system break down in full view of all the cameras that are following her? >> well, if

if you do have ted cruz and you have a mike huckabee and rick santorum.er hard conservatives like that running in the primary. they're going to be sharing a lot of people's votes we saw it last time in the primaries that we had with the republicans and so a guy that was not a hard conservative, mitt romney, came out as a victory because there were so many people fighting for that core conservative at the very beginning. that can actually play i think to chris christie's hand here. and i think you're right, he's going to have a tough time in the primaries. it would be much easier i think for him in the general election. but if you look at mitt romney, you look at john mccain, they also were sitting in the same boat that we're now seeing christie sitting in and both of them came through? >> maria, ten seconds to wrap. >> here's the problem with what happened with mitt romney. he didn't stay as the moderate. he ran so to the right, ben, that he was way to the right of all of those conservatives that you just mentioned. so unless chris christie does that -- i