rob porter recalled the president saying something to the effect of if mcgahn doesn't write a letter,e i will have to get rid of him. later that day, rob porter spoke to don mcgahn and told him he had to write a letter to dispute he was ever ordered to terminate the special counsel. mcgahn shrugged off the request. porter told mcgahnhathe president suggested mcgahn would be fired if he didn't write the letter. mcgahn dismissed the threat. mcgahn said he would not write the letter the president requested. the following day, white house chief of staff john kelly scheduled time for don mcgahn to meet with him, john kelly, and the president in the oval office, again, to discuss "the new york times" article. the morning of the meeting, the president's personal lawyer called don mcgahn's attorney and said the president was going to be speaking with mcgahn, and mcgahn could not resign no matter what happened in the meeting. that makes you look forward to the meeting. quote, the president began the oval office meeting by telling mcgahn "the new york times" story did not look good and mcgahn n

that down and said she wanted to be at the job at walmart but clearly -- >> and point out when rob porter left the white house for the reasons that he left, because of allegations of what he had done previously to two women, the president spoke fondly of him and favorably of him and now we know he was part of this. >> and when you talk about you've been reporting, both of you two have been reporting about people around the president being worried about the mueller report coming out and how much is worried the president would see how often they ignored his orders versus them spilling the beans about various actions that the president -- >> and how they told the special counsel they knew it was wrong. they knew it was outside of the norm. and it is interesting, at one point it said when he wanted to fire the special counsel, he was told the deputy attorney general and rachel brand would resign and then told don mcgahn and his chief of staff were prepared to resign. people were prepared to resign to stop the president from doing what he wanted to do. >> everyone, thank up so much. our specia

from his book last year where he basically said you know a lot of trumps mandates to his staff rob porter apparently cory lewandowsky and others were just not acted upon because the staff knew that this would get the administration an extremely hot water so the irony here is that he actually. he has a staff that's really looking out for his best interest the question is a question of intent as as i think you have men and others you know and when does it become a prosecutable offense and i think that what we're looking at here and this has been indicated in some of the footnotes in the report is that this is something that basically muller said this is something for congress to look at well is that what we're going to see now i mean mulder is going to testify i mean do they we heard the attorney general say he can do that right i'm not against that so let's say he goes to congress and testifies and then it's up to congress to decide what to do i mean the document the report is no longer just a legal document it's now a political document right impeachment itself is political not legal righ

among them, rob porter who resigned under fire amid allegations that he abused his two ex-wives. in addition, president trump's son-in-law, jared kushner and the former national security adviser michael flynn. let's get more from catherine herridge reporting live from washington. catherine? >> according to this letter, the democratic chairman is threatening to issue subpoenas if the white house fails to make witnesses available. nubold claimed the individuals had a wide range of serious disqualifying issues involving foreign influence, conflicts of interest concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use and criminal conduct. democrats want the record as you mentioned for current and former administrations including john bolton, ivanka trump, jared kushner, rob porter among others. the whistle-blower complains that the white house allowed for an unusual high number of interim clearances. she said i wouldn't be doing a service to myself, my country or my children if i sat back knowing the issues that we have could impact national security. her subpoena targets the former

, yes, the president does have the authority to do this, but because of the situation like with rob porter which has had complete ripple effects on this administration and that's why with this woman telling cummings that, yes, the president does have the authority to do this, but the way they did it was irregular, it was often and there were so many concerns that were never addressed which is why those career officials had denied these people their clearances in the first place. >> kaitlan, good to see you. thank you so much. for more some perspective on this joining me is a former senior advisor to the national security council during the obama administration, samantha v vinaigrette. about 25 people despite concerns and a range of concerns that were flagged with their initial background checks, 25 people overriding that and giving them security clearance. does that -- can you give me perspective? i mean, 25 or one for someone who doesn't know could be the same thing. is 25 people a lot for the number? >> it could be. it's a bit of groundhog day because another day another process foul by

reporting from his book last year where he said that a lot of trump scuba mandates to his staff to rob porter and corey lewandowski and others were not acted on because the staff knew that this would get the administration in hot water. the irony here is that he has a staff of is looking out for his interests. the question is a question of intent. when does it become a cross -- prosecutable offense question mark but we are looking at here and has been indicated in some of the footnotes is that this is something that mueller said this is something for congress to look into. >> let's say that mueller goes to congress and testifies and then it is up to congress to decide what to do. it's now a political document. impeachment itself is political and not legal. >> there are two avenues this will take. one is the political avenue to do with congress and the other is the prosecutions that could occur by the new york state attorney general, or in the southern district of new york. one of the glaring omissions from the report has been trump's finances and the state of his finances. there is some specu

the security clearance issue of the white house first came to light over a year ago it was rob portercretary and questions are raised even though he's twice accused and since then we have seen other like jared kushner as you said obtained clearances of the president stepping into help make that happen and it is more than that. these are probably questions as they are and important questions. it is also a first shot from the democrats. more is coming. we know more is coming against the ongoing fight of findings of that investigation. they wanted to happen today. that does not appear to be happening. barr has said he delivered more materials later this month. there is great questions that it is going to be redacted and the reasons behind those redactions. this is today i interpreted as also as much of the house of democrats, hey, we are not going to let it go and give you a victory on the mueller report as the president wants. we'll fight you every step of the way. >> that's security clearances. the other thing he touched on was obamacare, kicking the can down the road and promising som

. >> rob porter.ho had to fire because -- >> alleged wife beater. >> alleged wife beater. he's told to go see rachel brand and find out if she's on the team. he's thinking of firing rosenstein and porter recognizing how inappropriate this is doesn't do it. but it's just like mcgahn. k.t. mcfarland. cory lewandowski who is not exactly known as a squish. he doesn't follow the president's orders. it's amazing that these people stepped in. >> and let me ask you a question because he just -- jeffrey just talked about when the president as a candidate said, russia, if you're listening, get those 30,000 emails of hillary clinton. he said to the special counsel, he was just joking, but the special counsel's report says behind the scenes, he was pushing his staff, go get those 30,000 emails. michael flynn, who later became the national security adviser, is charged with doing that. now they never ultimately get them. is that criminal at all? >> there's an argument. it would be a bit of a stretch on conspiracy l

rob porter was the staff secretary.e refused to go and deliver that message to rachel brand. of course in the end, rosenstein is never fired. rachel brand is never put in charge of the investigation. presumably not until now knew about this chain of events. >> go ahead, jon. >> one other thing in this section which keeps coming up is, again, rod rosenstein is in charge of the special investigation because the attorney general recused himself. as we know the president was furious about that decision. here's the testimony of hope hicks, president's close adviser who freely met with the special counsel. hicks said the president viewed sessions' recusal from the russia investigation as an act of disloyalty. in addition to criticizing sessions' recusal the president raised other concerns about sessions and his job performance. >> one of the things established by robert mueller is that on several occasions the president directed staff, encouraged staff to remove every single person in charge of the investigation at various ti

on that list you have dan coats, james comey, don mcgahn, rob porter, jeff sessions, chris christie.>> mueller essentially said that the president walked up to the line of obstructing justice but you have all of these official who is refused to carry out his orders because they felt as though they were either illegal or cross some type of ethical line. that is potentially politically difficult for president trump but the trump team, the president's lawyers, his advisers, they are really trying to point to and stick to the bottom line. that's why you have the attorney saying we're not going to release that counter report. we want to have focus on the bottom line. they feel in the eyes of public, that bottom line looms hard. a lot of people drilling into the detail offenils of this 400 report. that's the strategy to turn the page on that. >> svery difficult to turn the pages. >>> coming up, back to the start. tra extraordinary episode of how the president reacted to the news that robert mueller was first appointed. this is andrew a mitchell repor. a s ♪ ♪ applebee's bigger, bolder s (c

former administration officials including john bolton, mike flynn, jared kushner, ivanka trump, rob porterthers. whistle blower all complained the white house stopped credit history checks and allowed a, quote, high number of interim clearance. she said i would not be doing a service to myself, my country or my children tpeu knew the issues could impact national security. they're all drawing attention to the fact that there's been a lot of leaking on the security clearance issue for some months. you can't leak and then take cover or shelter, if you will, as a whistle pwhroer. >> dana: exactly. you know the rules. that's what i love. now to the fact that the president cutting funding to three central american countries while threatening to shut down the border with mexico. wall street border writing most migrants don't want to wait years in mexico so they pay smugglers. the border is out of control and increases support for more immigration policies which should give democrats a political incentive to fix the asylum loopholes. joining me now is wall street editorial board member and a colum

former staff secretary rob porter was asked to reach out to rachel brand to discuss the possibility of her replacing sessions and ending the investigation. he didn't do so because he was uncomfortable with the task. there were some in donald trump's orbit who did follow through on problematic requests like former deputy national security adviser katy mcfar land who gave false information to the washington post denying any discussion of russia sanctions occurred between then national security adviser michael flynn and the russian ambassador. we now know that to be false. sarah huckabee sanders admitted she lied to reporters about the support from the intelligence community in the firing of fbi director james comey. sanders told this office her reference to hearing from countless members of the fbi was a quote slip of the tongue. her statement in a separate press interview that rank and file fbi agents have lost confidence in comey was a comment she made in the heat of the moment. joining me now hallie jackson. a lot to digest. the white house like everybody else has had some time to dig

he was secretly plotting with rob porter to figure out whether or not they could replace jeff sessionshs later she left for a job at walmart and while she claimed she couldn't pass up such a great opportunity the report makes clear she and rod rosenstein had threatened to quit if jeff sessions were to be removed. we're seeing attacks on the justice department on rod rosenstein and he said he will quit and not lie and while all of this is going on, officials like rod rosenstein is saying glowing things about the president and there is no attack on the rule of law happening. >> dani, i want to ask you about volume two itself because you say the special counsel and barr have a different position when it comes to what took place there in the volume 2 of this. the obstruction of justice part. explain. >> they both reach no obstruction but in very different paths. mueller have the outset concluded that no lc opinion prevented an indictment of the president and everything after that moment became really just a amassing facts and collecting them for somebody else to make a final decision on an

towards other people who spoke with mueller's team including for instance the former staff secretary rob porter is also someone who's been mentioned as a target. mcgahn is somebody the president worked with his uncle years and years ago back in atlantic city. working in all these very fancy law firms, just someone whose really not very similar to most of the people who were in the core of trump's campaign operation. he chose to go from the campaign into the white house with the president, so he's actually been around him for a very long time. but nonetheless, the two never really developed a close relationship. the two of them were barely on speaking terms and you can see throughout mueller's report the tensions between the two of them that day, that mueller describes in so much details of the president at camp david calling mcgahn twice, at least twice unone day saying, look, i want you to fire mueller. and you have a scene then where mueller decides to call his chief of staff, actually go to the white house, pack up his belongings and informs reince priebus and bannon he's on his way out. the

out at the white house having this scrutiny on security clearances is nothing new ever since the rob porter scandal. it has affects around the west wing. it's something they've been concerned about. so much scrutiny being on this process and what information could come out, especially with the report recently about how the president was involved in ivanka trump and jared kushner getting their clearances. >> thank you very much. one more note on this. according to miss newbold the retaliation against her for raising her security concerns began in 2018 when whimr. kline began taking -- korlgt her mr. kline repeatedly altered her office environment to cause impediments to her works including elevating files out of her reach. she said these are files we work with every day. that's an essential part of our job. she explained when she let mr. kline know there was a problem, they tended to it. >>> to the other major subpoena from democrats set for this week, to get the full unredacted 400 -some page frreport from robert mueller. let's go to manu raju. what's happening there? >> reporter: the house

that's the irony of the president's ire there, his anger at people, mcgahn, even rob porter, k.t. these people took trump's crazy orders and stopped them in a way that may have prevented him from being forced from office. >> important point indeed. everybody stick around. much more on all the breaking much more on all the breaking news right after this. has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with ahat usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today. ♪ be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who st

or when trump asked rob porter if he thought associate ag rachel bran was on the team and asked if bran was interested in being responsible for the special counsel's investigation and whether she would want to be attorney general one day. he doesn't have to say go lie for me for it to be a crime. he doesn't have to say let's obstruct justice for it to be a crime. you judge people on their conduct not magic phrases. just ask lindsey graham in 1999. >> he doesn't have to say go lie for me to be a crime. you don't have to say let's obstruct justice for it to be a crime. you judge people on their conduct not magic phrases. >> trump has always had a feral intel against. people act in ways that shield them from the eyes of law are it turns out people that are difficult to prosecute. joining me now to discuss, attorney lisa green and ali mistell. the behavior exhibited here is not surprising, and yet it is still shocking. >> yeah, so you're exactly right that he's talking like mobsters talk because it's effective, the people who hunts mobsters are also effective. andny use every tactic possibl

manafort, the campaign chairman, reince priebus the national republican committee and steve bannon, rob porter the president's aide, chris christie around a lot during the campaign. who are we missing? >> the alternative narrative that the president is trying to create is not rooted in fact as you saw from the extensive graphic there, and also remember that the trump legal team from the start encouraged this method of cooperating with the spoum, and that's something that immediately after the redacted report was release, that a lot of his surrogates did emphasize. kellyanne conway told us in the white house driveway that look at all these witnesses that, you know, that mueller talked to. we had a strategy of full cooperation and yet this is the result and trump does seem to be kind of undermining that a little bit here by insisting falsely that people in his inner circle weren't talked to. >> who wasn't on her? >> ivanka and melania and baron trump are really the only three people who did not talk to the special counsel. it's interesting. we seat president do this all the time. >> it's because

circumstances the rulings were overruled but a number of names are listed in this including john bolton, rob portere who have had, may or may not have had issues with their security clearance. house oversight committee saying they will subpoena spr officials involved, demand their testimony before the committee in the face of essentially a white house saying, you have no right to look into this and we're not going to provide you any documents. >> ken delanian live from washington, d.c. thank you, ken. >>> coming up, the latest on the murder of nipsey hussle. police search for the rap star's killers, or killer. an update from our reporter in los angeles. >>> coming up, the bezos allegation, top security analyst, saying saudi arabia is responsible for his phone being hacked and say it is in retaliation. we're going to dissect the accusations and how the u.s. should respond. w the u.s. should respondou n liberty. liberty. ♪ you get the freedom of what a 7-day return policy. this isn't some dealership test drive around the block. it's better. this is seven days to put your carvana car to the test and s

the white house comes from the people he chose to surround himself with, people like don mcghan, rob porter, reince priebus, corey lewandowski, and chris christie. these are people that told stories about what happened in the first couple years of the presidency that today are being dissected by us and the public at large as we evaluate what kind of picture we get, we get a picture of chaos, conflict, and a pretty dishonest culture where the president does, as you read, lie about his own actions and tell his aides to lie to the public. >> carol, as an investigative reporter -- we're going to dive into the report with both of you because this is the first time i've had to talk to either one of you -- but as an investigative reporter, having been a white house communications director, we didn't always welcome your calls but when they came in we tried to respond honestly within the boundaries of dealing with classified information and whatnot, but what did this report reveal that you encountered as an investigative reporter covering this organization, if you call them that, this gang of liars

the people in here, priebus, bannon, rob porter, christy after private meetings with the white house, every single interview, the footnotes thankfully are not redacted, is a portrait of a presidency hanging by a thread because of the lunacy and the attempted illegal orders of the commander in chief. this is something people should care about even if the legal questions are more arcane. so for that, i want to ask you both to stay but bring in as promised, the congresswoman from pennsylvania, the vice chair of the house judiciary committee which just enspoubpoenaed. >> thought it gave me a break from my reading. >> right. everyone is doing the reading. >> i want to get your views on the big issues but i will begin the breaking news from the justice department. which is not engaging chairman nadler and your subpoena as a kind of debate how to do it. rather saying, blank it tonight and immediately it is unnecessary. your response. >> my understanding, i haven't seen their response. i read a tweet about it which seems to be how we get so much of our need these days. and i saw that they sai

like they have a lot of footing here as far as the scrutiny goes because they know ever since that rob porter scandal happened last february that they really -- the way they handled this has been under a microscope ever since then and they are worried about more information coming out, particularly about people like that in the president's inner circle and how they got their clearances, but it's going to come down to whether or not they accommodate this request and whether it ends up in a court battle is white house lawyer cippoloni. it's likely headed to a court battle. >> elijah cummings and jim jordan saying come on, and now the democrats have the game and it's another game. >> so far the white house has not abided by any of the questions. they aren't handing over any documents and even though klein said he'd be willing to testify. cummings is moving ahead with authorizing the subpoenas, and that way they can be prepared if they want to issue them. >> that's the marker that you do have a witness. the attorney for carl klein says serving a subpoena to a non-political government employ to se

we also asked rob porter to run through the ranks of the justice department and try to figure out if rachel brand was someone who would be loyal to trump. that is something porter didn't feel comfortable with. he didn't follow through on that request. he asks james comey the fbi director to seeing the way to let the flynn thing go. he did not do that and pursued the flynn investigation and he became an important cooperator. he said to get rid of robert mueller and mcgahn refused to do and refused to go to the press and say this never happened, you never asked me to get rid of the special counsel because he knew that was a lie. >> sarah, thank you very much. >>> and nelson cunningham, a former us assistant attorney under president clinton and kim whale a former federal prosecutor, appreciate you being with us. nelson, what do you make of the role that don mcgahn played that we now know he played in this white house? >> he seems to have turned out to be donald trump's secret weapon in protecting his presidency. because the president kept on asking him to do improper things, including f

remember, back in february of 2018 after the rob porter scandal went on for several weeks, he was the staff secretary who had to leave because of accusations of domestic abuse, john kelly made a vow to fix the security clearance process, to review it, try to professionalize it and make it less political. presumably congress would want to know about that. >> the porter scandal like 15 scandals ago, book one. >> 1500. >> phil, thank you for being here. preet, such a pleasure to have you here. you're only available because you're written this incredible book. i'm sorry we didn't get to talk about it more. when it comes out on paper book we'll talk. >> you said that on television. >> my pitch on books is come at the end of your bookstore and we'll make news. it's been a pleasure, it's an important book. congratulations on its success. >>> when we come back, donald trump on the war pathogens hurrica -- path against hurricane survivors. his attacks on the victims of hurricane maria may take the cake. we'll talk to the mayor about how she's protecting her constituents from the commander in c

former officials including john bolton, michael flynn, jared kushner, ivanka trump, john mcen tee, rob porterng others. the whistleblower says the white house stopped credit history checks and loued a high number of incident cripple clearances saying quote i would not be doing a service to myself mikesell country and my children if i sat back knowing that the issues that we have could impact national security. when the clearance story broke last month, a senior house democrat alleged a pattern. >> i think it was an abuse of power; the president has a right to do a lot of things he can abuse his power in doing that. >> saying the democrats played game interviewing a witness early saturday morning. providing republicans with no opportunity to prepare. the committee's ranking republican said the whistleblower had a hard time naming names. and one alleged clearance violation included a janitor at a government's office space and supplies agency. >> those are not real investigations those are fishing expeditions. the president has absolute authority to grant clearance to whom he feels will give him

normal for don mcgahn to have a record and those notes in the record in addition to the notes of rob porterite useful to mueller and his team in piecing together this narrative. >> my goodness. if lawyers don't take notes, who named it a legal pad. i have to ask you this, phil. the entire report, what stood out the most to you? what was the most extraordinary? you have covered this white house like no one else. >> yeah. a few things really stood out. but i think the depth of the corruption of deception is very clear in the report, but the extent to which he brought along his aides and other administration officials to lie to the public, to try to create, you know, fabricated accounts and false story lines. you know, we knew in our realtime reporting that they weren't always telling the truth, but this is bob mueller, the former fbi director known for his impartiality telling us what happened based on the record, under oath testimony from these officials. >> stunning. imagine if we had all 400 pages and i keep going back to the first passage. russia interfered in the election. whether or not

that was really a big problem in the white house, especially with the rob porter scandal. so white house officials don't really feel like their slate is clean on this one, so they don't want an extra set of eyes looking at how they've been handling these. >> what's the point here for democrats when it comes to -- obviously, we know what they want when it comes to the mueller report. what's the point when it comes to these security clearances? the president does ultimately have the final say? what are they hoping to achieve? >> the president has bad judgment. that's the question that's on the table. the president goes to meetings with foreign leaders and kicks out all over staff, takes the notes of interpreters, to keep anybody from finding out what's happening. the president gives security clearances to people who people in the intelligence agency say shouldn't have them. at some point, we sort of have to ask the question, is this the kind of judgment about our national security that we all want? i've been through this process. it's intrusive. they go through everything. t

a third one that stuck out to me is rob porter.taff sect who left the white house and the president asked him if the number three at the justice department, rachel brand, if she was on their team and if maybe potentially she could be named attorney general. now he wanted to -- porter to reach out to brand to ask her these questions, but porter never did because according to what he told the special counsel, he felt uncomfortable with the task and while it wasn't explicitly stated he said it was understood that the president wanted someone new in that position to fire the special counsel or end the russia investigation. three really major instances. but chris, something to point out, all of those are related to the investigation. this instance of people not following out or just trying to slow walk orders from the president to stop him from making certain decisions is something that still goes on inside of the white house to this day. >> lucky thing it does. people in that position often benefit from those around him and it is not e

even though they too were concerned about clearances going back to rob porter.hey found out that he had domestic violence accusations against him. what we're seeing with this reporting and with this whistle blower is this is more akin to something that's systemic with 25 people having been given clearances despite recommendations against it. >> coming up, donald trump isn't the only president in the book plugging business. barack obama just gave rave reviews to valerie jarett's new book, and she joins us next onset. morning joe is back in a moment. onset. morning joe is back in a moment. we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old, we want to buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate, answer a few questions, and our techno-wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot, and pick up your car. that's it. so ditch

and not just on mcgahn but rob porter.use also refusing to carry out certain orders that had he done so would have made life more difficult for trump. so it's an interesting story of the trump presidency that a strategy of essentially delaying, ignoring, trump's orders have helped him. it's curious why he's mad at mcgahn. >> isn't it curious you've talked about two, in particular, their former. who is still remains around the president to protect him from himself? there's no other way to put it. >> yeah. who is left to speak truth to power and stand up to the president and tell him he's wrong and protect, you know, protect him from his own worst instincts and ill considered actions. some of the guardrails, as we put it, in the atlantic story recently are gone. mcgahn is gone. john kelly is gone. hope hicks is gone. it's not clear that the president has people of some stature. people who he has great regard for left to keep him in bounds. >> the white house done its best to spin a favorable narrative of the mueller report.

joining us for the hour is rob porter, global head of rates research at merrill lynch.et's start with a big question over where we go with the global economy more importantly, can the central banks have the tools in their toolbox is actually deal with a slowdown in global growth? guest: i think you see an interesting symmetry on the question.t of the the rba is one example, the fed is another example. arguably, the fed could grow balance sheets again. considerably more limited. it is interesting because the draghi trying to indicate that it is not all that red, he clearly try to introduce some symmetry around rates, for example. nejra: what does that mean how you take opportunities globally in the race market? if you look at the chart, it is a precipitous drop in global yields. what is the new ones there? ralf: if you look at breakevens, you can generally short-lived in europe. u.s.rgument being that the can do it while the ecb will struggle, and that is one of the things that draghi was highlighting, so he has turned more neutral now on breakevens in europe. we also fa

robbed. the trouble started when she walked to her rental car on the 2900-block of porter street near connecticut avenue northwest around 11:15. suddenly sheays aan grabbed her from behind >> he got my arm gripped behindi me, and sd he had a gun and i want your orcash. >> repter: he snatched her purse, emptied it out, breaking the strap, stealing credit cards, $15, an iphone, keys. she tried to fight back. >> i felt very angry that this is happening. >> reporter: police say he stabbed her in the knocking her to the ground and took off running. >> i was in shock. really. i screamed i guess b at that point nobody could hear me. >> reporter: to add insult to injury, the woman says she walked to this nearby exxon gas station on connecticut avenue. she says an employee turned her away. you're dripping blood, you can't dav anything and you h no money and no way to call anybody and somebody refuses to help you,t is not very kind. >> reporter: while police investigate, she hopes theyhe catch tcrook. >> i would certainly enjoy it because i certainly like to get everythinbab, especial -- back, especially t