i'm told that's robbie parker.s him right there. i think the emotions of those families sitting there tell it all. one other thing is, many of the families moved out of connecticut. >> they had to get away from the people who were -- >> their new addresses were disseminated. >> thank you all. "the lead" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> welcome

elizabeth: i think probably the story of alyssa and robbie parker was the most searing and really isal to this damages case against alex jones. what the parkers went through was it resulted from a news conference that robbie parker gave the night after his daughter emily's death at sandy hook. and he spoke about her, what type of sister she was to her two little sisters. he even expressed compassion for the gunman and the gunman's family. and jones seized on a moment of -- a moment, a split second as robbie parker stepped to the lectern that night. and there was a small laugh that he gave because he was shocked to see so many cameras and so many reporters in front of him because he only expected one. jones for years played and replayed that split second laugh and portrayed him as an actor. so all of that video over all of those years made him kind of the face of the so-called sandy hook hoax. and he and his family came in for unbelievable numbers of threats and online abuse, to the point -- and it started immediately, within hours of that news conference. so it disrupted the funeral

and jones seized on a moment, a split second as robbie parker stepped to the lectern that night. was a small laugh that he gave because he was shocked to see so many cameras and so many reporters in front of him because he only expected one. jones for years played and replayed that split second laugh and portrayed him as an actor. so all of that video over all of those years made him kind of the face of the so-called sandy hook hoax. and he and his family came in for unbelievable numbers of threats and online abuse, to the point -- and it started immediately, within hours of that news conference. so it disrupted the funeral that they planned for emily. they were in terror. just bfuneral, ravie th found alissa, efemily'o's mothe, hiding in a closet, saying, i don't know if i can go through with this. just really horrific trauma, secondary trauma inflicted on these families by these lies that alex jones spread for years. stephanie: these families had already gone through the unspeakable, losing their young children to a gunman. and these witnesses described years of these types of

i'm told that's robbie parker. the story you just told. >> i think the emotions -- that's him right there. i think the emotions of those families sitting there tell it all. one other thing is, many of the families moved out of connecticut. >> they had to get away from the people who were -- >> their new addresses were disseminated. >> thank you all. "the lead" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> welcome to "the lead." we start with the breaking news. a jury has just awarded nearly $1 billion in damages to sandy hook elementary families and an fbi agent in the connecticut defamation trial against alex jones. eight families and a first responder sued the far right conspiracy theer orists for the lies he told. this is the second of three against jones, concerning the sandy hook massacre, comes after a texas jury decided in august that jones and his company should pay nearly $50 million. the connecticut jury, nearly a billion. let's go outside the courtroom. bryn, you were in there when the big fig

. >> to plaintiff robby parker, "a," defamation slash slandered damages, $60 million. "b," emotional stress damages, $60 million. total fair to plaifs robert parker and against alex jones online a and line b a total of $120 million initialed by juror number one. >> in all jurors awarded $965 million for defamation by jones and his company for falsely denying the incident, denying their losses and portraying them as so-called crisis actors. that's something that does not exist outside the fevered dreams of conspiracy theorists. >> then we see footage of one of the reported fathers of the victim, robby parker, doing classic acting training where he's laughing and joking, and they say, hey, we're live and he goes, oh -- and maybe that's real. i'm sure it is. >> i already felt like i failed emily as a dad when she was alive because i have. because we sent her to school. and i was especially starting to feel like i was failing her in her death because of what people were saying about her and what they were saying about me trying to remember her. >> beyond even that, they ha

i want to read one thing robby parker said.tens to that man, ask yourself what has he ever given you, and compare that to whatever it is that he has taken from you. and that was such a big moment from robby parker when he said that. >> he lost a 6-year-old little girl, emily in that massacre. all right, thank you very, very much. be sure to tune in later tonight to anderson cooper 360. we'll have an exclusive interview with the sandy hook families involved in this case at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. >>> we're following more breaking news right now. political upheaval in los angeles where the former city council president has just resigned her seat after leaked audio revealed her making racist remarks. cnn national correspondent natasha chen is working this story for us. natasha, there are calls tonight for other city councilmembers to resign as well and demands for major reform. what's the latest? >> reporter: wolf, the acting council president said today that they cannot truly heal as a council, as a city, they cannot effective

as the verdict was read, some of them in the courtroom, like robby parker, weeping. >> while the truthng said in the courtroom, he was standing right here lying. >> reporter: lawyers for the families showing how just hours after the massacre that left 20 first graders and six staffers dead, the infowars host claimed it was all a hoax, and the grieving parents, actors. jones mocking them on his show. >> classic acting training. laughing and joking and they say, hey, we're live. and he goes, oh, boo-hoo! >> reporter: in gut-wrenching detail, eight families and an fbi agent recounting nearly ten years of abuse. death threats from jones' followers. parker, who lost his 6-year-old daughter emily, testifying how he was verbally attacked by a man on the street. >> he had so much venom and so much hatred for who he thought that i was. >> reporter: even as the parker family prepared to lay emily to rest, they worried about the threats. >> what if someone came into her funeral, what if -- people started yelling or protesting, came inside? like every little thing we did, i was paranoid. >> report

. >> reporter: robbie parker was among the parents who broke down in tears as the verdict was read. >h is being said in the courtroom, he was standing right here g. >> reporter: his daughter emilie was among the victims. during the trial, prosecutors played video of jones mocking him at her funeral. mark barden lost his son daniel. as you stand here today, i'm sure your son daniel is on your mind. >> my son daniel is always on my mind. and with everything i do, i feel i owe it to him to honor him. >> reporter: jones and his company free speech systems were sued by eight victims families and an fbi agent who responded to the shooting that took the lives of 20 students and six staff. judge barbara bellis had already found the info wars host liable for defamation. jones testified. >> i've already said i'm sorry hundreds of times. and i'm done saying i'm sorry. >> reporter: today on his show, jones reacted in real time, again, asking his viewers for donations. his attorney said he would appeal. >> in the course of my career, i've never seen a trial like this. >> reporter: family members t

as the verdict was read, some of them in the courtroom, like robbie parker, weeping. >> what we were able to accomplish was just to simply tell the truth. and it shouldn't be this hard. it shouldn't be this scary. but while the trust is being said in the courtroom, he was standing right here lying. >> reporter: lawyers for the families showing how just hours after the massacre that left 20 first graders and six staffers dead, the infowars host claimed it was all a hoax, and the grieving parents -- actors. jones mocking them on his show. >> doing classic acting training, laughing and joking and they say, hey, we're live, he goes, oh -- >> reporter: in gut-wrenching detail, eight families and an fbi agent recounting nearly ten years of abuse, death threats from jones' followers. parker, who lost his 6-year-old daughter emilie, testifying about how he was verbally attacked by a man on the street. >> he had so much venom and hatred, for who he thought that i was. >> reporter: even as the parker family prepared to lay emilie to rest, they worried about the threats. mom alissa hiding in a

you gotta 50 million, meanwhile, in the courtroom, sobbing from robbie parker, who lost his six your old daughter in the shooting. it's not just the families that are on this lawsuit that have been victims of alex jones. there are numberless amount of people in this country, even his own listeners that have fallen victim to alex jones. so i think this number represents more than just us. a jury found jones guilty of defamation for claiming victims. parents were actors calling the sandy hook shooting a hoax and even mocking the grieving parents. the families and the fbi agent testified they received violent threats because of jones comments. jones's legal team claimed those comments are protected under the constitution . today is a very, very, very dark day for freedom of speech. nearly billion dollar verdict comes two months after a jury in texas awarded other sandy hook families nearly $50 million last year, jones was found liable in four other defamation cases he's now filed for bankruptcy, claiming he has no money, but that may be tough to prove, according to lee. eagle analyst da

. >> reporter: robbie parker was among the parents who broke down in tears as the verdict was read. >> while the truth is being said in the courtroom, he was standing right here lying. >> reporter: his daughter, emilie, was among the victims. during the trial, prosecutors played video of jones mocking him at her funeral. mark barden lost his son, daniel. as you stand here today, i'm sure your son daniel is on your mind. >> my son daniel is always on my mind. and with everything i do, i feel i owe it to him to honor him. .>> reporter: jones and his company were sued by eight victims' families and an f.b.i. agent who responded to the shootings two took the lives of 20 students and six staff. the judge had already found the infowars host liable for defamation. jones testified. today on his show, jones reacted in real time, again asking his viewers for donations. his attorney said he would appeal. >> in the course of my career i have never seen a trial like this. >> reporter: family members testified they were harassed by followers of jones. david wheeler lost his sir,-year-old son, benja

and then afterwards one father of a six—year—old, emily parker, who was killed in the massacre, robbie parker court and said that justice had taken a long time but it was worth it. and then lawyers in fact said it is all about, in a sense, telling america that you cannot spread these kinds of malicious lies without there being consequences because, of course, what conspiracy theorists like alexjones say is that freedom of speech means he can say what he likes and the courts have really come down and said that is not true. a new report that's just been released by the world wide fund for nature has shown that on average, monitored wildlife populations have declined by a staggering 69% since 1970. it says governments, businesses and the public must take what it called �*transformative action�* to reverse the destruction of biodiversity. i spoke earlier to the deputy conservation director for wwf international and asked her for the main causes of the shocking decline. this is ourflagship publication that we publish every two years and there is a 69% of this year of populations that include mamma

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robbie parker's six—year—old daughter emilie was killed in the attack.d up to what had been happening to me for so long, and i let my voice be taken away from me and my power be taken away from me. as thejurors' decision was being announced, alexjones called the verdict delusional and mocked the outcome of the case. outside the court his lawyer told reporters they would be appealing. my heart goes out to the families. we live in divided times. they've been weaponised and used for political purposes in this country, in my view, and today is a very, very, very dark day for freedom of speech. it seems unlikely the families will receive much if any of the damages ordered by the jury. alexjones and his company have filed for bankruptcy in texas and he still faces a third defamation trial. peter bowes, bbc news. more than 100 unaccompanied child migrants have gone missing since crossing the channel and arriving in england. they have disappeared after being put up in hotels by the home office. charities are now warning that the children are at risk of being tra

to plaintiff robby parker, defamation/slander damages, past and future, $60 million., emotional distress damages, past and future, $60 million. total reasonable damages to plaintiff robert parker and against alex jones in free speech systems, line a and line b, total of $120 million. initialled by jury number 1. to plaintiff david wheeler, defamation/slander damages, pagourtzises and future, $25 million. b, emotional distress damages, $30 million. total, fair, just and reasonable damages to plaintiff david wheeler and free speech systems, add line, a and line b, $55 million. to plaintiff francine wheeler, definite nation/slander injuries, $24 million. b, emotional distress damages past and future, $30 million. total fair just and reasonable damages to plaintiff francine wheeler and alex jones and free speech systems, add line a and b, total $54 million. initialled by juror number 1. to plaintiff jacqueline barden, defamation/slander damages, past and future, $10 million. b, emotional distress damages, past and future, 18,800,000. total damages and free speech systems,

think that it's, well, first thing reasonable as robbie said the other night, we did a book and robbie parker sandy hook dad said i would encourage people. this is hard material but it's not too hard that you can't stand it. youu know, with members of congress who are starting to grapple with it. >> in a bipartisan way and it's one of the few bipartisan efforts that is actually here in congress. >> yeah, it's the line of the day and this book made me a little mad and it's absolute believable. also, think about what you're carrying around. you are a -- i would say you're cheapp dates for the internet. they get all the money, all the data and you get all the dating service or map. it is not unlike opiate companies and it's not unlike that. it's addictive and this pandemic has shown us, it's addictive, it's necessary for your job and your life and your social life. >> the people in the world, except for the saudis, richest people in the world. that's' your money. they're eating -- slamming green is people. just saying, think about it. anyway,li elizabeth, this is a book you should read. do not l

one of them, robbie parker, the father of 6-year-old victim, emily. >> the payoff for me was being able, throughout all of this mess, remind people about who she was and what she meant to me and her mom and her sisters. it's not just the families on this lawsuit that are victims of alex jones. there are numberless amount of people in this country, even his own listeners that have fallen victim to alex jones. so i think this number represents more than just us. >> jones did not attend the verdict. instead, streaming it live on his info wars show. >> defamation, $24 million -- >> yeah! >> mocking the decision and using it to fund raise. >> i don't have money so it's a big joke. >> money is all that alex jones cares about, and the only way to start to explain how he's made us feel is to hit him in the pocket. >> it's unclear when or how much of the money the plaintiffs will ultimately see, but some plaintiffs see it as a warning for those who spread these types of lies. >> people like alex jones will have to rethink what they say, how they say it. how long they say it. >> jones' attorney i

robbie parker's daughter emily was murdered in 2012 at sandy hook elementary school. in washington state in 2016 venomously cursing at him accusing him of being a crisis actor of faking his daughter's death and profiting from the government. >> and for years i've been dealing with this and everybody was in the comfort of their studio in another state and i never had a chance to tell anybody how i felt or what i thought. and i turned around i looked at him and just, i'm paraphrasing at this point, just how dare you. you're talking about my daughter. she was killed. who do you think you are? >> reporter: it was this video of parker the day after the shooting played by jones repeatedly in slow motion that served as the launching point for his false claim the mass shooting was a hoax. >> i already felt like i failed emily as a dad when she was alive. because i -- because we sent her to school. and i was specially started to feel like i was failing her in her death because of what people were saying about her. and what they were saying about me trying to remember her. >> r

robbie parker who you're seeing on screen was given the largest sum of money awarded the largest sum of money from the jury. $120 million. he lost his 6-year-old daughter emily at sandy hook. he testified in some of the most poignant moments of this trial that he felt that he had failed his young daughter in life by sending her to school and that he had failed her in death by not stopping the lies and misinformation surrounding her death and her young life. he spoke tearfully after the verdict was read inside the courtroom. >> the families i've been associated with for ten years throughout this tragedy are the most beautiful people you'll encounter and their children and moms and wives are the most beautiful people you can get to know. all i can really say is i'm just proud that what we were able to accomplish was just to simply tell the truth and it shouldn't be this hard, and it shouldn't be this scary. >> a long fought battle if ever there was one. this is a suit that started back in 2018. of course, the suffering certainly predates that and seeing the way the families banded toge

robby parker's daughter emily was murdered in 2012 at sandy hook elementary school.mously cursing at him accusing him of being a crisis actor who was faking his daughter's death and profiting from the government. >> for years i've been dealing with this and everybody was online or everybody in the comfort of their studio in some other state and i nerve her a chance to tell anybody how i felt or what i thought, and i turn around and looked at him -- and just -- paraphrasing at this point but, just, how dare you? you're talking about my daughter. she was killed. who do you think you are? >> reporter: it was this video of parker the day after the shooting played by jones repeatedly in slow motion that served as the launching point for his claim the shooting was a hoax. >> i already felt i failed emily as a dad when she was alive -- because i have -- because we sent letter to school. and i was especially feeling like i was failing her in her death, because of what people were saying about her. and what they were saying about me trying to remember her. >> reporter: the sa

to plaintiff, robbie parker, a, defamation/slander charge, past and future, $60 million.damages, past and future, $60 million. total fair just and reasonable damages, to plaintiff, robert parker, and against alex jones in a and b, totaling $120 million. initialed by juror number one. to plaintiff david wheeler, a, defamation, slash slander damages in the future, $25 million. b, emotional distress damages, past and future, $30 million. total, fair just damages, to plaintiff david wheeler and against alex jones, add line a and line b, $55 million. to plaintiff francine wheeler, dev mation slander, $24 million, b, emotional distress damages past and future, $30 million. four just and reasonable damages to plaintiff francine wheeler and against alex jones, add line a and line b, total $54 million. to plaintiff jacqueline, defer mation/slander damages past and future. $10 million. b, emotional distress damages past and future $18,800,000. total fair just and reasonable damages, jacqueline and against alex jones, add line a, and line b, 28 million, 800,000 dollars. >> to plaint

robbie parker, 6 year-old daughter was one of the children murdered in the 2012 school shooting massacre that killed 26 people. most of them children. all i can really say is that i'm just proud that. >> what we are able to accomplish was just to simply tell the truth. for years, jones was relive was with his claims that the sandy hook school shooting was an elaborate hoax with people staging as grieving parents be about a year will see any have to kind of >> i the whole thing relatives testified they were tormented and faced with a barrage of death threats because of jones's lies. those relatives stil grieving yet grateful the jury believed their losses and pain is real. what it does to me. >> shows that the internet is not the wild. wild west. and that your actions have consequences. >> that was dray clark reporting for us this afternoon. jones plans to file an appeal against the trial and lawyers representing the families claim he moved millions of dollars from bank accounts. coming up on the kron, 4 news at noon counting down to the mid terms. everything you need to know if you plan

. >> joining me right now is robbie parker, whose daughter, six-year-old emily was murdered in sandy i enter you with a heart called hard, if i could, i saw you weeping at the decision was read. i suspect those tears were jumble of emotions for beliefs, to the pain after overwhelming loss. being resurrected yet again. how about now? how are you feeling? >> it's even hard to explain how i am doing now. i'm trying to get back into the normal swing of life. everything that we have been through in the last month of this trial, not even explaining the last four years of litigation, and ten years of what we have been through, still comes back to me, and it still can be overwhelming at times. honestly, i am happy to be back home, be with my wife, be with my girls. >> we will get to home, that sense of normalcy of your, life but getting the money from alex jones, that will be difficult, it's not the 965 million that he was ordered to pay, which is an unbelievable some, it's also the other 15 million awarded a mistrial. and another job coming up this year. ad altogether, it as up to over one

robbie parker, 6 year-old daughter was one of the children murdered in the 2012 school shooting massacre that killed 26 people. most of them children. all i can really say is that i'm just proud that. >> what we are able to accomplish was just to simply tell the truth. for years, jones was relive was with his claims that the sandy hook school shooting was an elaborate hoax with people staging as grieving parents be about a year will see any help to kind of >> back to the whole thing. relatives testified they were tormented and faced with a barrage of death threats because of jones's lies. those relatives still grieving yet grateful the jury believed their losses and pain is real. what it does to me. >> shows that the internet is not the wild. wild west. and that your actions have consequences. >> i was straight clark reporting. now, jones has filed bankruptcy claiming he has no money. so we'll see what happens. he also vows to yeah, but lawyers representing the families, by the way, and they say that he is moved millions. >> from bank accounts to hide his assets and his business is a rad

now, my conversation with robbie parker, erica, colin hockley and bill sherlock. >> >> nikole, this is obviously been a nightmare from beginning to and and it is not over. how did you feel today hearing the verdict? >> you know, in the first, when the first member came out for robbie, i realized that this was going to be something historic. it was chest, the rush of feelings and emotions was just completely overwhelming. i think i missed a lot after that because i was just very much in this, oh my gosh, they are really sending a message here and this is going to create change. so it has been such an up and down ride, especially these last few weeks. and now, i'm just feeling very positive, because justice is being done. >> robin, for you, what was that moment like? >> i don't know if i can even speak to the moment, just like for myself. because i was so concentrated on what this meant for everybody that even in this with me. remember that it is not just the families that are on this lawsuit that have been victims of alex jones. there are number less amount of people in this country, ev

it's it's well first thing read the book as robbie said the other night, we did a book event, robbie parker sandy hook dad said i would encourage people, you know, this is hard material, but it's not too hard that you can't stand it and take it on read it and then get -- and you know contact people who can make change whether it's the social media platforms or it's members of congress who are starting to grapple with they are they are in a bipartisan way. it's one of the few bipartisan efforts that is actually taking root in the congress. yes. i was before this conflict. but yeah therefore, yeah, so so you're saying get angry. yeah. yeah. i hope people, you know, people said, you know, i don't mind a radio host said to me the other day. i don't mind telling you this book made me a little mad. i said, that's absolutely the goal. yeah, and also think about what you're caring around you you are a i always say you're cheap dates for the internet. they get all the money they get all the data and you get a dating service a map or whatever understand what they're doing what they're doing. it's not

robbie parker's six—year—old daughter emily was killed in the attack. from me and my power be taken away from me. as the jury's decision was being announced, alexjones called the verdict "delusional" and mocked the outcome of the case. outside the court, his lawyer told reporters they would be appealing. my heart goes out to the families. we live in divided times. they've been weaponised and used for political purposes in this country, in my view, and today is a very, very, very dark day for freedom of speech. it seems unlikely the families will receive much, if any, of the damages ordered by the jury. alexjones and his company have filed for bankruptcy in texas and he still faces a third defamation trial. peter bowes, bbc news. police are continuing their murder investigation after remains were found in the search for missing teenager leah croucher. leah, who was 19 when she disappeared, has not been seen in more than three years. detectives have also found some of her belongings at a property they're searching in milton keynes. vincent mcaviney report

robbie parker's six—year—old daughter emily was killed in the attack.me for so long, and for how i let my voice be taken away from me and my power be taken away from me. as the jury's decision was being announced, alexjones called the verdict "delusional" and mocked the outcome of the case. outside the court, his lawyer told reporters they would be appealing. my heart goes out to the families. we live in divided times. they've been weaponised and used for political purposes in this country, in my view, and today is a very, very, very dark day for freedom of speech. it seems unlikely the families will receive much, if any, of the damages ordered by the jury. alexjones and his company have filed for bankruptcy in texas and he still faces a third defamation trial. peter bowes, bbc news. i'm joined by the bbc�*s disinformation correspondent marianna spring. for people who don't know about alex jones, who is he? bile}. for people who don't know about alex jones. who is he?— jones, who is he? alex jones is what some people — jones, who is he? alex jones is wh

. >> reporter: robbie parker bowed his head and wept as the jury delivered its astonishing verdict orderingnes and his company to pay almost a billion dollars for insisting the massacres that killed emilie parker and 19 other children at sandy hook school was a hoax. >> what we were able to accomplish was to simply tell the truth. it shouldn't be this hard. it shouldn't be this scary. >> reporter: for the parkers and other families it was scary, they testified about torment and threats of violence and death. alyssa parker recalled before her daughter's funeral she cowered in a closet. >> her service was supposed to be about her life and the whole time i'm scared. >> reporter: when alex jones faced the families in court, he did not apologize. >> i already apologized to the parents over and over again. i don't apologize to you. >> objection. >> i don't apologize to you. >> reporter: jones skipped the verdict but mocked it on infowars. >> you get a million. blah, blah, blah. you get $100 million. you get $50 million. >> reporter: jones claimed he's out of money and asked his audience to flood

infowars host for promoting the lie that sandy hook was a hoax, calling grieving parents like robbie parker and this scary. >> while the victim was revealed jones was on air blocking what he called a show trial. >> never said their name or who they are. >> the month on trial featured dramatic testimony about the vicious harassments sandy hook families have endured. >> it is a constant fear. >> mark barden telling the jury how jones' fathers violated the grave of his son daniel. >> to hear that people were desecrating it, and urinating on it and threatening to dig it up. >> jones' attorney vowing to appeal. >> certainly, it is more than we expected. that's an understatement. but we will flex florida to an appeal in this case. candidly from start to finish, the fix was in, in this case. >> after years of false claims, the summer during another sandy hook trial, jones admitted the tragedy did occur. he's ordered to pay nearly $50 million to a victim's family in that case. but during this trial, he lashed out again on the witness stand. >> i'm done saying i'm sorry. >> refusing to apologize or

using the name alex jones much less and they need to be talking about scarlet you lis or robbie and alissa parkerre the people i believe deserve the platform right now. >> it's actually a really, really good point. i covered the week of sandy hook on capitol hill, and those families were advocating for changes to our nation's gun laws. and, you know, i've never seen people in more pain than the faces of those parents as they went from office to office. so, i mean, thank you for that reminder. and let's also talk, though, i mean, alex jones' impact is bigger than just this. obviously this is this emotional and horrible situation. but there was also the pizzagate conspiracy theory. and then there's january 6th. i mean, in the case of pizzagate, i mean, i -- my family regularly eats at that small pizza joint that was threatened. it's in suburban washington, d.c. violence followed his rhetoric there. january 6th, you see the same thing. what's the next threat? >> i am scared to guess what the next threat is. but jones -- look, here's an example. so, i don't imagine that the cnn audience watches alex

robbie parker's six—year—old daughter emilie was killed in the attack. announced, alexjones called the verdict delusional and mocked the outcome of the case. outside the court his lawyer told reporters they would be appealing. my heart goes out to the families. we live in divided times. they've been weaponised and used for political purposes in this country, in my view, and today is a very, very, very dark day for freedom of speech. it seems unlikely the families will receive much if any of the damages ordered by the jury. alexjones and his company have filed for bankruptcy in texas and he still faces a third defamation trial. peter bowes, bbc news. let's return to the chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, who is in washington at the international monetary fund, where he has been saying his main focus is getting the uk economy to grow. let's listen in. thank you forjoining us. thank you. are you going to u—turn on measures as many are speculating on? film as many are speculating on? our osition as many are speculating on? our position has _ as many are speculating