so i don't think we can call on the so called let me go over to robert hanser in washington in ambassador 184 we and the show before we under. so just tell me how you see this playing out. well, pat, really as after mister put, because we have shared in the west beginning with the united states, that we will not get involved in this conflict. even though it is an aggressive action against a sovereign country to which in 1994 russia along with britain, the united states, in exchange for ukraine giving up nuclear weapons as solemn commitment to protect the border of ukraine. not to do anything against you. quick as and also a baylor rule center because extra, and they are broken after amendment, no matter what has happened on the western side. russia put itself in a position of an aggressor nation if mister potent wants to stop. now, arrangements can be worked out so that as we tried back in 19 august rusher, can be a full participant in an overall european security effort. mister potent decided you didn't want it. and he has now put himself in a situation where he damaged his country. coun

and joining us from washington, robert hanser, former us ambassador to native will welcome to all of you. so aaron, let me start with you, then what did you make of the president's speech? and what he had said about ukraine was, was it enough? i think it was probably a little less than, than some were expecting, you know, it's only in our speech. and so, and he has a lot of things to talk about, including domestic issues like the economy, inflation and covered it. it ended up being about the 1st 10 minutes, the speech about 15 percent. but in some ways, it was the dizziness of the speech because there was a lot of bipartisan support for the position, a lot of positive imagery, you know, those with the colors of ukraine. the ambassador was there and you know, directly talked about, but i think it's a very tough position for him to be in. i look back to jimmy carter's to the address in 1980 after the soviet union invasion of afghanistan. and he kind of went back to that invasion at several points in the speech by present bio chose to just talk to the talking about it at the top for 10