we look at rodney king and say it's about a bunch of racist cops.s about what happens when you chase someone for 100 miles an hour. that's far more useful way of understanding that particular problem. we look at the cop who rushes up after rocks and bangs window and sticks his gun and says what a terrible awful person that cop is. he should be in jail. while he is a terrible awful person but maybe he was really bad to train maybe at some point in line he was not trained that when you're in that kind of situation you stand by your vehicle undercover and call out to the person that has the car. is that training or false appraisement? maybe a little bit of both. most of all, when we look at these kinds of social blunders, all the pieces i've been describing our social blunders. when we look at these things people go wrong at the kind of cues they miss we forget the kind of skills we have to make us human that allow us to function intelligently in the world are really really fragile. they're not always there with us. there are times when these very powe

movement was active and at play during the beating of rodney king.ovement that started a long time ago, and this movement will not be deterred. ♪ >> so the special "washington which is a live reporting of my podcast, i'm john, opinion writer for "the and my guest is returning for the fourth time to kamala ast, senator harris of california. over the past month, senator co-sponsored the justice in policing act, bipartisan the arris -- helped introduce a resolution denying a tax on the karolina muchova and help ntroduce the whistleblower protection act accountability during the coronavirus pandemic. arris is the former district attorney of san francisco, former attorney general of the ornia, made a run for democratic presidential nomination, and is now talked bout as a possible vice-presidential runningmate for joe biden. ight now, harris is front and center in the senate, in the senate debate on police reform, now.he joins me senator harris, welcome back. senator harris: thank you for being with you, jonathan. happy birthday. jonathan: thank you. befor

we thought with rodney king, the world would see and those officers would be convicted. we know what happened. and theward a few years cell phone camera is invented. now i thought, ok, there are a lot of videos. every time before george floyd, people would say, we really do not know what happened before the video started. the officer said he was in fear for his life. and we do not know who michael brown was. michael brown was ferguson. garner, -- and eric garner, well, you know he was , doing something wrong, as though, even if he was committing a crime, when do you execute people? what happened to innocent until proven guilty? what happened to arresting someone and putting them on trial? i think that george floyd was just so egregious, no one could really argue. you did not need to know what happened before the video. you watched him being murdered over eight minutes and 46 seconds. you saw that he was completely subdued. i think that really led to people saying, we cannot debate this one this time. so the movement has raised other issues. it raised the issue of systemi

before we had camera phones, we had rodney king. we had watts before that. and a consent decree, just as mayor cantrell has gone through. and those things made us better and stronger and fairer, even if we still have a while to climb up the peak, maybe we're midway up the mountain. we have thrown too many solutions on the shoulders of our police departments and our police officers. a and, yes, it is about accountable behavior. it's also making sure we don't just hold bad behavior accountable but lift pg up good behavior. but also, what we can do to make sure that police aren't always the solution to everything. that we can call 911 and as we are doing here, working together with our county to look at what we can do in a mental health crisis, to have trained professionals, who are mobile just like police officers. who can roll out and maybe have better and more lasting outcomes than police officers going back and back. and sometimes, tragically, to these dangerous situations if that's not what they are best trained for. it's about gang intervention. we've cut

we thought with rodney king world would see, and for sure those offices would be convicted. well, we know what happened. passport a few years ago and the cell phone cam is invented that i thought okay, now there's lots of video. but every time before george floyd, people would say we really don't know what happened before the video started. and the officer said he was in fear of his life. and we don't really know michael brown was. michael brown of ferguson. eric garner, well, he was doing something wrong, as though even if he was committing a crime, windy execute people? what happened to innocent until proven guilty? what happened to arresting someone and putting them on trial? and so i think that george floyd was just so egregious, no one could really argue. you didn't need to know what happened before the video. you watched him being murdered over eight minutes and 46 seconds. you saw he was completely subdued. and i think that validity people saying that we can't debate this one this time. and so the movement now has raised other issues. raised the issue of systemic raci

you talked about 1992 and rodney king that happened in 1992.n to know one year earlier, you were graduating from high school. i was graduating from college, just to give everybody a sense of our decades. and that was the year in which you went to the governor's mansion and were turned away and were told you were not supposed to be there, which everyone who reads your book, know sparked your passion for your politics and your determination to move into that governor's mansion, which could still happen. there are lots of elections ahead. but because you are a daughter of the south with roots in two southern states, i have to ask you about this tom cotton comment. tom cotton said of slavery and in his opposition to the 1619 project, he doesn't want it taught in schools. he called slavery a necessary evil on the road to building this great country of america. this is what he said. he said we have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can't understand our country. as the foundi

she has been working on reform issues for decadegoing all the way back to los angeles after the rodney king riots, she has street credit, she lais powith both the progressives, who really like her, as well as more moderate, even republicans, kevin mccarthy, the minority leader assembly speakersacramento around 2008, says she is his favorite democrat, i am not sure that helps her, the point is, she is able to work with different groups of people, she is very, she has an easy manner, she laughs easily, veryo smart, knowscy, she has a healthcare background, which is important, could be in this moment when we are dealing wind a ic, she is also up against kamala harris, who many feel has beenat the top of the list, they are in the process of vetting the candidates, going through things like income tax, spouse's income tax, health records, siblings, they do, itis a complete 360 review, i think it is going to comfortable with, who does he think he can govern with, it does look like he has a pretty good chance of winning. >> marisa, this has been a he tough week, antough week more coronaviruss than

i'm a pragmatist yesterday i spoke to someone who said you know i was protesting during you know rodney king and so you know that was almost 30 years ago and you know here we are and where were you 30 years before that. and you know i just say you know people often say i look to history as a guide to what has history has shown us but you know incremental progress sort of progress. so but you know i hope this time is different a lot of people are out on the streets during a deadly pandemic and that's sort of unprecedented told me that counts for something. patrice sellers and thank you for sharing your experiences as black journalists covering the george floyd protest existing as journalists of color in the ski road like you helped me to appreciate it and so watching everybody to see next to a. business where do you want to buy no brown spots. business leaders just want to buy no brass power. oh and turn around and the top stories on ours is there at the coronavirus pandemic is crushing the world's most powerful economies and any recovery is being threatened by new surge in cases the us econo

i'm a pragmatist yesterday i spoke to someone who said you know i was protesting during you know rodney king and so you know that was almost 30 years ago and you know here we are and where were you 30 years before that. and you know i just say you know people often say look to history is a guide to what has history has shown us but you know incremental progress sort of progress. so but you know i hope this time is different a lot of people are out on the streets during a deadly pandemic and that's sort of unprecedented so i mean even that counts for something. patrice still is and thank you for sharing your experiences as black journalists covering the george floyd protest existing as journalists of color in the school right now we appreciate it and so much everybody to see next time. the u.s. is the richest country in the world yet it still doesn't have a universal health care system all the all skin why not to influential republican lani trend on top democrats say it in a special edition of head to head in $68500.00 lives a year we would save under medicare reform starting this doesn't hap

angeles where white police officers were found not guilty for the brutal beating of a black motorist rodney king within a year are in ization was 1st formed and the idea there was to start working with people in the neighborhoods to identify what really are the root causes that led to this explosion of anger and it was police abuse and it was jobs disappearing from these neighborhoods and it was the crack epidemic where the only solution being offered was mass incarceration and over policing then in 1904 republican governor pete wilson and plainly states like tino population who are running for reelection by champion proposition 187 pete wilson has had little courage to say enough is enough the ballot initiative allowed californians to vote on whether to deny social services to undocumented immigrants and their children that's a little bit like what trump did and 2016 was to sort of capture an anti american way and try to ride that into the presidency also successful strategy as part pastore says the prop 27 by point new latino voters and leaders into the electoral process also helping to set th

i'm a pragmatist yesterday i spoke to someone who said you know i was protesting during you know rodney king and so you know that was almost 30 years ago and you know here we are and where were you 30 years before that. and you know i just say you know people often say look to history as a guide to what has history has shown us you know incremental progress sort of progress. so but you know i hope this time is different a lot of people are out on the streets during a deadly pandemic and that sort of unprecedented so i mean even that counts for something. patrice sell it and thank you for sharing your experiences as black journalists covering the george floyd protest existing as journalists of color in the school right now. and so watching everybody to see next. from fossil fuels to modern day renewable as societies develop the energy demands increase requiring innovative solutions to meet such demands as a global power develop into the basement company nebraska power is uniquely positioned to deliver against these developments we provide business growth promote socio economic benefits and pr

a lot of room for some people to say, as they did, listen, when i was a younger woman with the rodney kingt happened before? what--" you know, all of these missing pieces that jurors and some within the public say they needed, but with george floyd, what did you see in that video that made you know that this was the change? - what i saw is hatred. what i saw is generations of white people oppressing black people, and through his eyes, you could see pure hatred. ouwhpened before

i saw what it was like after rodney king in los angeles, but not only just that, detroiters are fed uph the is a radical protests. i'm not talking about peaceful protesters, i'm talking about these misguided radicals that have tried to incite violence in our city. so that the great police department and great leadership, and we said enough is enough. in the last two and a half weeks, we've had three officer involved shootings and all three shootings, these violent offense. and then a self-proclaimed misinformed and misguided it leader of this radical fringe had the audacity to change the narrative. i showed the video, you may be aware. i put the video out and it clearly depicted the officers that were faced with an imminent threat to their life. this guide today, the same misinformed leader is calling for my resignation. detroit will have nothing of that so when you talk about what's different here, we have a city that has stood together. and by the way i know there's a lot of conversation about the mayors and some of these big cities. our mayor stands with the police chief and stands

your job of the police although you were doing it wrong think of congress it came to this after rodney king in 1901 after. 'd 'd the 1990 the bail in 2006 after trayvon martin after the kaepernick meanly moved but there were plenty of opportunities to took this ringback this kind of tinderbox mode to set all 'd this situation where files were getting action. well but when i listen to robert malenka i hear everything he's accounting for before going down the list of names about police brutality and yes this is largely about a racial injustice or racial issues in the united states now i have to point out the fact that white people also have been as well as hispanics and a lot of other groups are also been targeted of bad policing here in america it's not just african-americans and the fact that the whole argument has been traded into racial injustice does that do it fairness and actually trying to find a solving the problem for police brutality is there a way to separate the 2 considering there is no discrimination when it comes to bad policing. so i orginally i don't think that it is and tha

when the governor of california asked for assistance in the riots which followed the beating of rodney king. it has not been used since. nor did president trump use it earlier this summer here in washington. all military personnel used here this year were national guard, the authorization of which was not needed under the insurrection act in this federal city. . this house approved an amendment to the national defense to orization act substantially weaken operations of the military under the act.rection let me be clear. over the last 200 years, this used sparinglyen and only under extreme circumstances, which is only appropriate in a country which the civil control of our military. our armed services have a primary mission to protect us enemies without our country. they should rarely be used to do for people within our own country. this amendment forbids our they're called out under the insurrection act, to participate in search, arrest or other similar activity unless otherwise law.emely authorized by mr. speaker, the insurrection authorized byedly law. this amendment would effectively mak

but the insurrection act, the one that will be remembered by most in the audience would be the rodney king riots in los angeles. widespread riots and the federal government did send in troops after invoking the insurrection act. not all that controversial at the time. law & order had broken down. longgain, it has been a time since we have had experience in those events. go back to the civil rights era, you will find eisenhower and others faced with resistance to federal orders in a number of southern states, calling in troops as a result. this has been a threat to american history from the rebellion to after the revolution, to the civil war and reconstruction afterwards, but it usually takes a big crisis. one thing we argue about is what is happening in portland and seattle, is it a big enough crisis. host: the attorney general william barr, described the role that federal agents will play in operation legend. we will hear how he describes it. here is the attorney general. [video clip] >> the operations we are talking about are the standard, anti-crime-fighting activities that we have been

i saw it was like after rodney king in los angeles and so -- but not only just that, detroit is fed upese radical protests -- i'm not talking about the peaceful protesters. i'm talking about these misguided radicals that have tried to incite violence ins our cities. they said we are not going to put up with that and so we've got a couple of things, a great police department, great leadership, but we have a community that stands with us and by us and says enough is enough. i want to share something with you. in the last two and a half weeks we fed three officer involved shootings and all three shootings, these violent suspects, in one case, fired shots at officers and the second two pointed a gun, try to kill our officers. and then a self-proclaimed misinformed, misguided leader of this radical french had the audacity to try and change the narrative. and i show the video. you made me aware. i put the video out had clearly depicted our officers who were faced with an imminent threat to their life. and this guy today, this same misinformed leader is calling for my resignation. detroiters

rodney king is still fighting and they got it on time. >> they got it on tape.'92. we have on it time in 2020. why were not we listening? we had those police officers, some of them, cracking down. police power stems from a wider system which not only ignored them over and over on time are not documented. they ignored it and attacked it at the time and tried to make hip hop an example of something terrible. >> hip hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism. >> it's just despicable. it's outrageous. it is filled with mysogyny. >> many young blacks are unassume advised and prone to imitate bad behavior. like with little wage puts out. >> now we just showed you clips from fox news. but let's be historically clear and accurate. it went way i don't understand just the right wing. right now some stories of racism and policing are getting more of a hearing, let's recall this was a bipartisan tike black artists and rammers with both sides elevating it to a presidential issue. from bush and dole. >> the line has been crossed. not just of taste but of h

you can go back to rodney king in los angeles 30 years ago. we had diallo in new york 20 years ago. on staten island i think people at one point said enough is enough they want a different type of policing, they want a different relationship with the police i think it's a good thing, jimmy. look, if you don't have trust and respect between the police and the community you have nothing. the relationship has to work if it's not working for one party the relationship is not working. what the community is saying, it's not working for us. great. let's reset the relationship what do you want from the police department and what do you not want what do you want fixed and let's have that conversation as a nation we're starting it in this state. i said every police department in each city has to sit down at the table with the other side in a collaborative and redesign a police department that works for everyone and change the procedures you need to change. the police have to do their job also they need trust and respect to do their job i think it's a great transformational moment where we get

. >> the late rodney king said it best, can't we all get along? can't we find common ground?diversity and a lot of things going on in this country that has us angry but stop and think before you react. start thinking about the guy next to you, what he's going through. take a breath. i know it's not easy. i know it's difficult. we are doing with a pandemic, dealing with tough political times, dealing with a loss of jobs but hurting each other doesn't help. it only makes things worse. find a way, man. find a way. >> dana: all right, tyrus. we love having you. thank you so much. >> thank you. always a pleasure. >> dana: and the woman who called the cops to say a black man was threatening her life in central park, she's now charged with filing a full report. it could land her in jail for up to a year. the video of the incident went viral in may, and it showed amy cooper yelling at a black man who was birdwatching and pointed out her dog was supposed to be leashed. the manhattan district attorney now urging anybody who has been a target of false reporting to contact his office. mo

i saw what it was like after rodney king in los angeles. only just that, detroiters, detroiters are fed up with these radical protests. we got a couple of things. we got a great police department, great leadership, but we have a community that stands with us and buy us, said enough is enough. elizabeth: that was a major interview tucker carlson did with the chief of police of detroit, michigan. it is interesting that detroit has not had rioting. detroit had a long history to struggle to come back from riots decades ago. the detroit community stands with police there. more people are saying, stop the violence. welcome former nfl player, current member of black voices for trump 2020, he is jack brewer. great to see you, sir. your reaction when you heard that? >> amen, finally. it has been too long. we talk about what is happening in our streets but no one wants to talk about the cause. to see a law enforcement officer stand on tv, really push back against everything we're seeing from the left from these anarchists, it's a breath of fresh air.

and more recently during the rodney king riots in 1992. but what's unprecedented is

were not giving up ground to the radicals, we just did not do it, i saw what it was like after rodney kings angeles. but now not only just that, detroit is fed up with the radical protest, we have a couple of things, we have a great police department, great leadership but we have a community that stands with us and bias and said enough is enough. >> that was a major interview, tucker carlson with the police of detroit, michigan, it is interesting detroit has not had writing, detroit has had a long history of struggling to come back from riots in decades ago, the community stands with polico there, more people are saying stop the violence. let's welcome former nfl player and current member of black voices for trump 2020, here is jack brewer, it's great to see you, your reaction when you heard that. >> a man, finally. it's been too long, we talk about what is happening in our streets but no one wants to talk about the cause, to see a law enforcement officer stay on tv and pushback against everything that we are seeing from the left from the anarchy is, it's a breath of fresh air, i think the

i participated in the-- the demonstrations and protests after the rodney king verdict in 1992.ganize marches. i got into a fight with the mayor of atlanta declaring that his administration wasn't doing enough for poor black kids and poor black young people in the city. but those demonstrations ended, and after a few months of-- actually after a few days of demonstration, after a few months of conversation, we went back to the way things were. but the fact that we have had more than 13 days of sustained engagement, we see multigenerational, multiracial, multiethnic people standing up and declaring action, and going back to the point of voting, we see elected officials actually declaring and taking steps, concrete steps to make things right, that feels very different. but i think we also have to remember that we have a coward in the white house who has shown us what he intends to do if he stays, and he's been suborned by a group of moral cowards in the u.s. senate who are allowing him to get away with his behavior. and i think that urgency is also stay with demonstrators. we know

>>a video camera used to record the police beating of rodney king is going up for auction. george holiday used his sony handy cam you see it there you probably remember those he recorded lapd officers beating king back on march 3rd 1991 the an edited and uncensored video stirred intense, cultural discussions about race in police use of force. the acquittal of officers recorded on video here spark the la riots in 1992. holiday did not get his camera back from the fbi until 2015. the videotape is not included in the auction. the auction is set for thursday july 30th this thursday with the bidding opening at $225,000. >>and coming up, i'll have your microclimate wednesday outlook for your midweek forecast after the break. >>plus more than a dozen people lost their home after a devastating fire in new jersey, what one resident did. not do that paid now more than ever, it's important californians have health coverage. if you've lost health insurance, covered california can help. you may even get financial help to pay for your health insurance. just visit coveredca.com today. >>n

in n 1992 inpresence lolos angngel when there was ununrest after the rodney king incident.goeoes on and on. there is a long history of unrest.eing involved in it seems to be part of their purpose. inbororder patrol has expanded asastronomical fasashion over te , the25 years particularly expansion of bortac happens as well. quite a surprise like this clip from bririan williaiams and in another way it is no surprise at all to see that bortacc is being put in washingtone from might view as unrest. people protesting. that they're going to be showing up in chicago, showing up in new york -- places that are in the 100 mile zones. people are ququite aware of, there was an announcement in march that bortac reported patrol unit was going to join a show ofof force and in sanctuary cities. sanctuary cities to then go after dodocument a people in cicities, the same cities that e are seeing them be deployed now. in a way it is going hand-in-hand now with what was announced in march with what has been going on actually for years now. nermeen: professor c cecilia menjivar, if you could ta

after the protests and unrest in l.a., after the not guilty verdict with the officers who beat rodney king on television and the whole nation said we need to do something, clinton said absolutely, let's do something different and two years later the crime bill. so my real concern, the reason we built the road map in the first place is we need steps forward to continue to allow us this momentum without backsliding into backslash. every time we do this, we backslide away from where the bulk of america wants us to go and toward more restrictions and less resources for the very communities that are struggling. >> then where do you think we are right now in terms of sliding backwards or moving forwards? >> we're teetering on the raggety edge. the country is in favor of major reforms to policing. we have a majority, according to a pew poll says 51% of white folks in the united states are for major reforms in law enforcement. but it seems clear now that we have a federal administration that is determined to use the apparatus of federal public safety. i may have to put that in quotes, to stoke anx

kingw a 1991 the running incident -- rodney king. we saw john lewis get his skull fractured. invited a movement then. at this moment it sparked a global movement. i think a part of that is because of technology and social anda and spreading the word activism that leads to actual policy change. it helped move this moment. i hope for the first time that people have developed some empathy. i don't know any decent human aings who could look at police officer casually kneeling on a man's neck for almost nine minutes. his hands were in his pockets, something.l when people have this rage and take that to the streets i stand with them. i understand it because how far you get locking arms and singing "kumbaya"? what will it take for people to say we will not tolerate this anymore. we are making demands that our lives matter. we will not tolerate the harm coming to our children, our daughters, our sons, our brothers, our sisters. i am thrilled, this has been a diverse multicultural, multigenerational movement of people saying enough is enough. except for a tiny group of people who are

riots after rodney king. so there is a legal basis for that to happen. that's not here.his is not an insurrection. this is primarily a protest. so my opinion, again, he chose the next best thing, in his mind, which was heavily armed, camouflaged federal agents. and, alicia, to be very clear. look. federal agents have the right to enforce the law, anywhere within the united states. now, there is a question of legality. there's, also, a question of morality and ethics here. and while this might be legally permissible, in -- in perhaps an extreme manner. it certainly brings a lot of ethical and moral questions here. >> but, navid, whose job is it to answer those moral and ethical questions? >> yeah, that's a great question. look. the reality, alicia, is the reason that we have local police departments is because they engage with the communities that they police. in fact, that's one of the major calls for defund the police, and really that's come out of george floyd and breonna taylor. all these movements. local police have a connection to the community that they police. fed

you remember the rodney king riots in l.a., the korean grocers who gathered above their store with theirns were seen as heroes for being the ones to protect their property and their livelihoods and all they had spent a lifetime building up. you don't know, when in a flash this will turn from your property being destroyed, or the protesters are indeed peaceful . maybe it's marta from a weapons point of view for them to hold their weapons down facing the ground. maybe it would have been better if they didn't hold their weapons were their index finger should be. they did and do things by the book but i won't take away the sentiment of how vulnerable you feel if you think your property, your livelihood, your home can be threatened. you can't ignore the fact that this has turned into violence throughout american cities everywhere. 40 cities in america have had to have curfews, lockdowns after the george floyd murder. you can understand why feelings are fraught on the side of those who might want to protect themselves. >> harris: ari fleischer gets the last word. we'll move onto this, the trea

go back to rodney king.s, but they have gone unaddressed because the system is flawed, in that it has not held bad actors accountable for bad acts. and that's what we are pushing for. we are say no-knock warrants, that there should be no ability to have no-knock warrant for drug cases. breonna taylor would be alive today if there had been a ban on no-knock warrant in drug cases. that's part of what my bill offers. my bill together with, again, those that are partners with this, is saying we need to have independent investigations. i know as a former prosecutor, the d.a., the state's attorney, who works every day with that police department should not be the business of then investigating and prosecuting a police officer from the police department they work with every day. and i'm going to tell you why. no matter how well intentioned that d.a. may be, there will still be the appearance of conflict. and in our system of justice, we must achieve actual justice and also the appearance of justice. and that means

and after the rodney king decisions and we sat juxtaposed with the housing development with people who could not imagine they could attend more house. but those that were tear gassing did not see a different. i was still just another black kid and that moment protest and something that was louder maracas and that was also the felt that i could cast in the next election and then to the lift up those who did a good job. it is an externally form a protest because how we tell people who are supposed to see us add value us they did not do their job but also call attention to the issues that we need especially for lucky enough to live in states of citizen initiatives such as we saw past in florida and unfortunately overturned by the legislature and the governor and then florida stepped in to allow ex- offenders and returning citizens to vote that was a protest of a broken system where citizens took power and they have to keep fighting because if it works the way it should there will be people who are very very angry because their power will be diminished. >> in the book i was so pleased to s

and more recently during the rodney king riots in 1992. but what's unprecedented is president trump's plans to use federal forces for a series of other reasons, including fighting violent crime. >> more federal law enforcement. that i can tell you. in portland, they've done a fantastic job. they've been there three days, and they really have done a fantastic job. i'm going to do something. that i can tell you, because we're not going to let new york, chicago and philadelphia and detroit and baltimore and all of these, oakland is a mess. >> this bloodshed must end. this bloodshed will end. today i'm announcing a surge of federal law enforcement into american communities plagued by violent crime. >> we want to go in and help the cities. we want the help chicago. we want to help all of them. if they invited us in, we'd go in with 50,000, 75,000 people. >> trump says they're doing a fantastic job, but the justice department's inspector general launched a probe this week into the use of force of trump's officers, including an incident where one

they don't want to be invoked inappropriately and so many of us think about it when we think about rodney kingin los angel angeles, 1992 and the use of it there. the governor requested it and they requested assistance and so but there are ways to use the insurrection act right now without a formal request from the government if the president does sign a proclamation. i think that people are looking at that but they are taking a long look at the laws that are on the book and civic engagement so important because people have to understand that the laws that govern our country and why the laws need to be respected and why the laws cannot be exploited and if they ever are our citizens must know that they should stand up against it and fight for our american values. >> i want to remind the audience at this point that you are free to ask a question paid go to the csis website, this event page and there is a little button that says ask a question and you can submit it and we are beginning to get this i want to turn to one of those questions. it's from a csis colleague and he says spoken about the ben

>> you started to see progress like a football game and when the rodney king beating happens, it's likecome national people understand that there are some misdeeds that are being done to people of color. and then that happens and it's trending, and then all of a sudden it goes back to normal. people aren't being shown nationally protesting, and internationally. so now what happens? what happens is we should keep score. of the corporations, of the politicians, of the individuals who say that they want to see systematic change and racial oppression be lifted and look at black and brown people as their equal. let's keep score of those who actually do legislations to make it happen. and the same in sports and it starts from a power dynamic. black players in the nba and the nfl are very intelligent enough to perform and entertain but, you know what else we are able to do as well be owners, be presidents, general managers, coaches. so these are the things that i hope start to change i do feel warmth in my heart when i see a white person carrying a sign that say "black lives matter," because t

times covering the trial of the officers who beat rodney king and then the o.j. simpson case. i was always dazzled by his writing, his ability to take a day of complex events in a courtroom and summarize it concisely and clearly. he always wrote with amazing speed and great elegance. i got to know him in another capacity in the late 1990s when he was covering the charter reform process in los angeles as part of covering city government. i was then chairing an elected commission in los angeles to revise the city charter. i saw then that he not only was amazingly talented but a reporter of enormous integrity. at one point he believes the los angeles times was not devoting nearly enough attention to charter reform. it was important to the city, and according to los angeles weekly, he quit his position at the los angeles times in protest of this. he put his very job on the line because he believed in the importance of the story. he was then and is now an enormous star of the los angeles times. as a result of that, the los angeles times decided to change its approach and gave treme

. >> there was an analogous time back when george bush 41 was president and the rodney king riots wereplace and you advised the president of the united states, you were joint chiefs chairman, not to bring the military in, to try to use the national guard first. >> yes, that was pretty standard, straightforward stuff. it was up to the national guard to be the first force going in in addition to the police force. and president bush and i were discussing it. and then the whole thing got out of control. and whole streets were being burned. it was at that point that president bush consulted with the leadership in california and decided that it needed the federal forces to go in and that i was called by president bush that night and told to alert federal forces. and we did, both marines and army forces were alerted, and we went in and put that down, and then got out as fast as we could. sometimes it's necessary to use federal forces that go beyond, you know, police forces or national guard. it's not the first time it's happened. we had to use that to integrate our schools in the south, you m