sir roger penrose. ah, me. ah, the, i don't know. i mean, there are some steps in there were rescuing the food that they were not scabbing or were rescuing resources that are still good. this is best by march 21st, which is in 2 days. all these potatoes, paula pianos, onions, all of these came from waste ground sources. this is great for me because i'm always looking for a way to give things away. dr. because the tax laws, you know, definitely do benefit the wealthier people and our society. so it makes sense for them to throw it out right off rather than give it to somebody who could use it. and then that person is not going to buy it here. but for our annual summer solution where we look at the solution of the problems today, we're talking to simon dick's, the bank for the future. he's been around since almost the beginning. he's got a wealth of knowledge. i met my lovely weekend and obviously wanted to know me and johnny douglas gave me the gotta go through the the or up the kitchen table out them out. i got a good model. she will

sir roger penrose, desist mathematician, philosopher, 2020 noble prize winner and physics. so great to have with us today's sir roger. right, so one, reacting to your noble prize when you said that the black holes have become an increased importance in our understanding of the universe. so let me ask you as a lay person, why is the study of black holes so important? well, there's more than one reasons. important partly because they're such strange things . we're used to, you know, space continuing, more or less as it's like. and to find these strange objects, which seem to be so different where you, if you got to close, you might fall in and never be able to escape. and it is very strange phenomena. they are important for other reasons. one of the reasons has to do with a, the term entropy. i have to explain what entropy means. it's more or less randomness. and there is a thing called the 2nd law sermons in that mix, which tells you that things get more and more random as time goes on. we have to keep the entropy down. this is how we exist. that's where we get structure, st

and we're back with twine twine, nobel prize winner in physics, sir roger penrose. you have a rather daring theory of your own about human consciousness, which is rooted in quantum mechanics. and one of your points is that human thinking is not a series of executed algorithms, which means that any attempts to actually create a truly functional artificial intelligence using current computing powers are doomed. so in your view, artificial intelligence that is equal to a human brain is an impossible thing, right? do i get it correctly? you have it right here if you have it, right? i mean, i don't know what artificial tells reduce and you know, they can play just very well. the play go very well after my ideas about never mind . but it's, it's sure it can do computation. we know that. i mean, they can do arithmetic much better. i mean, my father's brothers big machine were trying to have it did arithmetic, that can do arithmetic much better than i can. but it's not. that's not the point. what does you see this dates back to when i was a graduate student in cambridge gra

sir roger penrose, physicists mathematician, philosopher, 2020 noble prize winner in physics. so great to have you with us, today's sir roger. right, so one, reacting to your noble prize, wait, you said that the black holes have become an increased importance in our understanding of the universe. so let me ask you as a lay person, why is the study of black holes so important? well, there's more than one reasons. they're important, partly because they're such strange things. we're used to, you know, space continuing, more or less as it's like. and to find these strange objects, which seem to be so different where you, if you got to close, you might fall in and never be able to escape. and it's very strange phenomenon. they are important for other reasons. one of the reasons has to do with a term entropy. i have to explain what entropy means. it's more or less randomness . and there is a thing called the 2nd law sermons in that mix, which tells you that things get more and more random as time goes on. we have to keep the entropy down. this is how we exist. that's where we get st

sir roger penrose. ah, ah, me one. i make no, certainly no borders under my number is emerge. we don't have authority. we go to the back, the whole world leads to take action and be ready. people are judge, you know, governors crisis, we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are together now. ah oh the me, an entire village in alaska has had to move if another country threaten to wipe out an american we do everything in our part a project in water escaping climate change poses the same threat. right now, alaska has seen some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world. we lost about 3535 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring it is bad. and that means the river is 35 pounds. then learning was year before, i think we're part of america. there's for america for worse. the, i don't know, i mean there's some steps in there were r

while to talk about this, i'm joined by 2020 noble prize winner in physics, sir roger penrose. sir roger.