to roger rhatman i think each thought he came from a position of superiority. he was the one who had the great contacts, the remarkable rolodex but by the time you get to that conversation he is asking his man who his entire life had been giving advice to other corporations, advice to boards. he was the one who had actually worked at the preeminent firm in the financial services industry. here he was asking someone who had never actually succeeded in a firm like kkr for a device on whether he should take this job. it's sort of a stunning turn of events. >> can we go to the back please? >> you my question is related to his college days in new delhi. he probably graduated sometime in the late 60's or early 70's. >> 1971. >> right, so i read that rajat comes from a humble background where roger had financial troubles. how could he afford to go to harvard? >> he got a scholarship. >> okay. a related question is how did rajat manage to grow? was the high merrily during the late 80s that they recognized there were ample opportunities outside of the european markets s