. >> romney big, not even close. >> turns out pundits are not terribly accurate. >> economist robin hansontudies an alternative. there's something about putting money on the line that cuts through. people often make bold statements. >> you're talking. you're pontificating. something challenges you and says you want to bet on that? all of us. as soon as somebody says you want to bet on that? you pause and go, do i really believe that? if you put your money where your mouth is, you are more careful. and when lots of people put their mouth on the line, on sites called prediction markets, like this one in the united states, this one in europe, the resulting odds are more accurate than anything else. unfortunately, they post these odds in confusing gambling formulas. so my producer and i created this site. electi electionbettingodds.com that states the odds more clearly. and who's winning? >> we're going to win. we're going to win. >> despite donald trump's confidence and lead in all national polls for the republican nomination, marco rubio is well ahead in the betting. trump is second. ted cru

he did it in utah with romney's big endorsement and manage states with existing networks that he can tap into and turn the race into an ideological battle with trump. he's done well. trump's got the opposite thing with big rallies. it's sort of ideology versus the trump name. >> you heard a lot of people suggest that if cruz loses indiana on tuesday, it's over. is that going too far? >> i don't think it's over in the sense i can't envision ted cruz getting out of this race before donald trump hits 1237. he can't do that without california on june 7th. i can't imagine it truly over in the way that everybody closes shop and goes home. i do think because of everything i was saying with how much the cruz campaign is throwing at indiana, if he loses indiana, i just think there is no more oxygen. the wind comes out of the sails. no more money flowing in. nobody that thinks that cruz mission will be the right bet to place and that becomes hard. his ability to make a really successful argument if he loses indiana after all of this this week becomes really complicated, i think. and as for the

john mccain win big and romney win in 2012.y tonight is fascinating on the republican side because the republican race has not mattered in resents history inside new york. what are we going to look for on the republican side, the same thing. these are democratic districts, but there are some districts in new york where a couple of hundred people might vote on the republican side. how does donald trump do upstate. if he's going to get all 95 delegates, he has to carry that's districts up here. let's see if he can sell himself in buffalo. >> buffalo, new york a great town. this is a big night for donald trump and a very big night for hillary clinton and bernie sanders. lots going on. the polls are about to close in new york state. in fact, they should be closing right now. with the polls closed cnn projects that donald trump, donald trump the billionaire real estate magnet will win the republican presidential primary in his home state of new york. we don't know how much he will win by. we don't know the delegate count yet, but we

romney, please. >> we were talking about . >> is hillary in trouble? >> big trouble. when bernie sanders can beat you five or six times in a row now you come into a state where you are the carpetbagger in little rock. she is in trouble if she can't when you're. >> it was not quite like that. >> if you're going to the trump rally, to us at juliet buddy . just talk about it. it should not be laughing. >> put more fun in your day with ice-cream-flavored coffees at dunkin' donuts. go for delicious flavors like butter pecan, cookie dough, or new pistachio. enjoy one today. it's not a quick fix. it's my decision to make beauty last. roc retinol started visibly reducing my fine lines and wrinkles in one week. and the longer i use it the better it works. retinol correxion from roc. good morning. >> i was cold yesterday. >> the yankees got their season underway against the >> it's a lot colder. >> top of the sixth inning with the astros down. the game is up at two and they are giving up two runs striking out four. in the eighth inning it's the same score and this is where the

. >> i looked back in 2012 interesting fact today governor mitt romney won new york 2012 with 63%. bigp going to beat that tonight? >> you know, stranger things have happened. 2016 has surprised us in so many ways. maybe he will. i mean,. >> it's very different year four years later. anyway, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> last minute voting is still underway. the new york polls close in just over one hour. "on the record" live from times square continues next. they say that in life, we shouldn't sweat the small stuff. but when you're building a mercedes-benz, there really is no small stuff. every decision... every component... is an integral part of what makes the 2016 c-class one of our most sophisticated cars ever. because when you're setting a new benchmark for refinement, it is the small stuff... that makes the biggest impression. the 2016 c-class. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, aprem

romney did. >> yes. >> hispanic-americans there is a big tie-up on the border and the comments about mexican criminalsut. you don't -- do you think he can make inroads there? >> no. i think that's one of thiz problems. i'm now looking at arizona and nevada which have significant latino votes which republicans can win in good elections. they have been winning arizona i. think trum will have a problem there. >> he did okay in the primary in nevada. >> that is different when independents and conservative democrats are voting and they're rejecting you, then you have a problem. >> so he'll have a hard time with the hispanic presipgts. younger voters say under 35. let's have that as a cutoff, 35. trump should appeal to them. he has charisma, television background. they understand what he's saying. he's a blunt guy? no? >> and they're angry at hillary clinton for hurting their man bernie sanders. sanders is more popular among 18 to 34-year-olds than even barack obama. >> you think they'll hold a grudge that she wiped sanders out? >> they may. and they want the biggest change of any segment of the population.

neil: mitt romney cannot endorse trump, no way no how. >> the governor has a big event in june. he brings -- in park city, utah, bring 200 of his friends up there before the republican convention, wall street week is going up there, we will do some filming. neil: at that time indicate -- >> i am hoping. politics make strange bedfellows. we are republicans, very necessary for the republican party to regain the presidency and i am wearing the republican jersey. neil: we will speak to a big republican not to go ahead and vote. he would rather vote for hillary clinton to cleanse the party. >> that may be true but people like winning more than that. the fundraising, you have got to come out of the gate is the republican nominee with a pastor raising us$500 million with the presidential trust has raised the hundred so the nominee gets that but you will need another $500 million liquid to build a field operation necessary to swing those states to the republican party. that is $33,000 checks, the maximum you can give to the republican trust. you need fundraising in the 50 states, approx

that's when romney locked it up winning michigan illinois. wins big states, it's over. people fall in behind him. in the case of cruz i think that's 100% true. at every moment, all of these republicans who said, we must stop donald trump, we desperately have to stop trump. cruz is standing over there saying, hey guys what if you voted for he? no let's make it much more complicated. we need a more complicated strategy. they don't like him. you know why? because the republican party is largely constituted to keep very conservative people from taking it over. and ted cruz is that very conservative kind of candidate that they're used to tri-ing to block. >> is that what it is, howie, ted cruz is too conservative? john kasich is pretty conservative on many issues. there's a couple he doesn't sign on with the orthodoxy of the day. but is it his conservatism or is it him? >> well i guess it was "time" magazine who had the cover line "likeable enough" for ted cruz which i thought was a bit unfair. he is widely described as the most conservative nominee since barry goldwater. he

these states though romney didn't come close to winning them, and donald trump, he wins, so big.and then, he spent a lot of time talking about how he had these negative ads against him. and they're ineffective. so there is, i think trump had a lot to celebrate. cruz didn't but he was dealt a bad hand. >> so, let me just say it. looking towards indiana cruz's great hope is that there is a large evangelical poll in the state. big companies said stop. his hope is the evangelicals right? tonight what did donald trump say? don't forget what happened down south. evangelicals saved me. boosted me, carried me. he's -- saluted the evangelical community. tomorrow, he's going to be with bobby knight. and is it true he referred to the hoop as a ring? >> i'm saying nudging. >> a ring? >> because if you do -- >> no. no. i don't know a lot about sports. >> let's talk about this. it's been a hot topic. is donald trump going to start changing his tone on the campaign trail? >> why would i change? when you get to the super bowl you don't change your quarterback. i may act differently but my though

>> remember, brooke, about 7 1/2 weeks ago, right after the first big super tuesday, mitt romney gaveutah. >> in utah, that's right. taking down donald trump. and trying to provide this very road map. if you recall, he was suggesting with marco rubio in the race, supporters of rubio vote for him in florida and supporters of his vote for kasich in the ohio and split the map and other conversations going on since that point between the cruz and kasich campaigns. but the cruz campaign never saw an advantageous deal for them still in the hunt to try to get to that magic number themselves of 1,237 with the reality that's not going to happen, the cruz folks were more inclined to sit around the table and figure out a deal for them to join kasich in the strategy. >> if donald trump is only one to reach 1,237 prior to cleveland, does it make indiana may 3rd sort of make or break for trump? >> you know, it's hard to pinpoint any one state and say -- >> okay. >> make or break. we all love to do it. it's a fantastic headline. listen. circle may 3rd on the calendar. indiana is a big deal. no doubt

you've seen over the last month -- remember, it was almost exactly a month ago that mitt romney came out and gave that big to get to an open convention. the fact that governor scott walker is out with ted cruz is significant. he's really popular among republicans here, his approval is something like 80% and walker is not just throwing his name behind cruz he's throwing his full support. we were at a cheese shop yet and walker was out there, hanging out with heidi cruz, cruz's daughters and the family and trying to be an active presence. carly fiorina, too, has been a key surrogate not just in wisconsin but places like north dakota where cruz is trying to lock down delegates, talking about the 18 delegates he picked up in north dakota. that said of course those delegates could change their minds between now and july but fiorina has been a major presence. cruz is talking about the fact that five of his former rivals have come back and endorsed him and are supporting him hoping to add to that count moving forward and picking up endorsements from congressional colleagues and so on trying to prove that he can

romney or a jeb bush? that turned out to be donald trump. he got a big pop out of these states. he does have to come back hard in indiana. a lot of conservatives who have real policy disagreements with trump are trying to figure out what they should do. kind of the conclusion i have drawn is that we have no obligation to do anything. this is a guy who hasn't tried to court conservatives, didn't bother showing up at cpac. really lumps groups like the club for growth and rnc all together at once. if cruz doesn't do well in indiana, i don't see anyone lifting a finger for trump. if you are going to do this, you are doing it on your own. good luck. >> i have a suggestion for what the republican establishment should do. focus on u.s.enate races and focus on house races and governor's races, because you ain't going to win the white house. s the two nominees are going to be. each party. a year ago, we were all making fun of him. two weeks ago. >> ted cruz m would say he is taking away donald trump's momentum. here we are sitting around here talking about the presumptive nominee of the

romney. so you got to make a move there. now obviously donald trump has a big problem with women.at's why ted cruz decides, hey, i'm going to bring out a strong, conservative woman with a track record in terms of -- >> the woman that was targeted by him when he deny graded her looks. >> and also on the merits. i think she stands up as a good vice presidential choice. and by all accounts they get along very well. she was a keynote speaker at cpac and talked about the importance of constitutional conservatism. i think she and ted cruz align very well. i don't think it's just the woman part. >> they'll be able to split up in the state because she can get a crowd on her own so they'll be able to cover a lot more ground. i admit it's a last-minute desperation move. but not a bad one to play. >> juan points out john mccain picked sarah palin. you know what the date of that was? >> it was august. late august. >> he went there. he was already the nominee. he knew he had two things to cover. he had to cover the women vote. he had to make sure he closed that gap a little bit and also that h

big challenge. >> ask this question. the most recent republican nominees, mitt romney, john mccain, george bush, will any of them supportonald trump? i'm not sure they would. would they like to support a retired general? like mattis or kelly. >> i would like to ally with bill kristol on one thing. i do think we need a pro-democracy movement to ensure there is ballot access. we don't, at the moment, we don't have -- we're a poor country. we is have two political parties. >> we have to take a quick break. what is bernie sanders' next move? he's live next. and virginia's governor restores voting rites to felons who paid terry mcauliffe defends his decision in an abc news exclusive. >>> and that other exclusive. charles koch breaking his silence on the 2016 race. lashing out at donald trump's big ideas. >> that's reminiscent of nazi germany. that's monstrous, as i said at the time. so, obviously, we totally oppose that. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven

story 2012,: you remember in the big scandal, the gaffe with mitt romney was when he was talking aboutg, he said he had binders full of women and everyone lost their collective minds. managerave a campaign being charged with assaulting a female reporter, among other aings, and it will be one-week story. the things that are sliding by and the way the atmosphere has changed around this campaign, there is no explanation for it. they will be writing books about this campaign for a long time. kelly: it should've been a one-day story. as soon as this came out, he should have apologized, the campaign manager should have apologized. either they don't know how to do damage control or they are too stubborn to do damage control. this could have been dealt with in a day and they refused, and now were talking about this rather than substance of issues. host: hillary clinton's potential for indictment over her e-mail troubles, her server she had, you predict hillary clinton avoids indictment and is able to proceed and bernie sanders does not overtake her in delegates. fantasiese of the big and polit

remember in 2012 the big scandal with mitt romney as related to women was when he was talking about hiringe said he had binders full of women and everybody lost their minds as this. now we have campaign managers being charged with assaulting female reporters among other things. it will be kind of a one week story. the thing that is are sliding by and the way the atmosphere has changed. they're going to be writing books about this campaign. >> even if it's a one-week story which i'm not convinced of, it should have been a one-day story. he should have apologized the campaign manager should have apologized. either they don't know how to do zadge control or they're too stubborn. this could have been dealt with in a day. and they're stubborn. now we're talking about this ather than substantive issues. >> i think one of the big fantasies in politics is that hillary clinton will be indicted this summer. i think there's an extremely small chance of that. and i think -- >> why? >> when you look at the reporting what she did if anything was something that no one else has really been -- you look at

. >> mitt romney did that with you when you won south carolina. >> exactly. he called me and said, big victory here tonight. so i think donald would be better off to be a little more gracious and very well off to stop and take seriously these polling numbers. doesn't mean they can't change or doesn't mean the race is over. there was a 36-point swing for ronald reagan between march and the election. there was something like a 25-point swing for george h.w. bush between may and the election of 1988. so you can have very big swings but you don't get there by accident and continuing to do the things that aren't working. >> because right now, he's got everybody beating up on him. he has ted cruz and john kasich beating up on him, these super pacs. even hillary is releasing ads against him. so he's sort of bloodied and bruised right now. but if he can get on message, and just sort of stay on a message, pro-republicans and anti-hillary or whatever, he'll do much better. >> he'll do a lot better almost overnight. if he gives a serious speech that's well thought out, much like the apex speech w

. >> three years ago after mitt romney's defeat the party arted a path back to the white house that imagined a bigent republican party and recommended new appeals to women and minority voters. >> a welcoming attitude that we need to have in our party. i think that we had some biologically stupid things that were said in the last election. >> i'm joined now by the chairman of the republican national committee reince priebus. chairman priebus, welcome back to "meet the press.." >> good morning. >> let me start with -- >> thank you. >> -- your republican front-runner continually calling the process you're overseeing rigged. how do you tell republican voters you are running a fair process when the front-runner is calling what you're doing rigged? >> well, i'm not -- you know, look, i don't know what the motivation is. there's really nothing that's rigged or being changed or altered. these are the same rules that were in place basically for over a century. but at the very least there's no way around the fact that all of these states submitted their delegate allocation plans by october 1st of 2015. and

occasionally i think you'll hear mitt romney go out and talk about it in her try to stop trump. i don't think anyone who is a bigunner in the republican party would say that they should get out or both should get out. mark: what do you think will happen if trump goes over? do you think that will happen then or do you think there will be some sort of change or delegate challenge in cleveland? john: well, that is a good question. it is hard -- it is hard to know if we will wake up on june 8 and see if trump has that many that willand whether happen. i don't ever see this party rallying around trump and taking his cause in that way. mark: i wonder if reince preibus, foreince instance, will get behind them. even if he does, i am not sure people will be calling for him to get out. they will say, look, i know he will not clear the bar easily. something will happen. some legal challenge or something. some guys will not be asked to get out all the way to cleveland. john: regardless of how trump does in an interview or how well he does in his foreign-policy speeches or how good he does at a town hall, most of them are de

big win for senator cruz tonight. >> this is a state, dana, where mitt romney pretty much finished off rick santorum. a state that on its face appeals to the voters would find ted cruz appealing. it looks like he had a decisive win and one of the reasons, i think it's their to say, according to polls, is people did not want the current front-runner to be the winner of the wisconsin primary. they were voting i think for ted cruz but also many were voting against donald trump. >> very much so. because kind of the party establishment and more importantly the money came around ted cruz and not john kasich who is still in the race, not doing very well so far in this state. it's critical. the thing that we have to keep in mind going forward as we watch the results come in is what sara reported tonight. i also was told by an anti-trump strategist that they really want to keep trump under 15 delegates tonight. 42 total. they want to keep him under 15 because by their calculations, this is the never-trump movement, if that happens, trump will have to win 100% of the delegates to avoid taking it to june 7th wh

why is romney doing this >> he likes the sound of his voice over public airwaves . heather: he was this big antiestablishment thing. >> it stuck in back in because i have to tell you, strategically it doesn't make any sense. it truly doesn't.kasich drops out. it's not like all those votes are flooding over to ted cruz. it's not going to happen or vice versa. heather: this is an unconventional year, why not come out with an endorsement? >> historically endorsements may drive voters and help during people in but they're not driving voters and the electorates changed and the problem now is that the republican party is seeing an electorate that demands this populist trump and you have cruz, more of a constricted conservative and they both carry the outsider antiestablishment moniker. that's was hurting them. >> how much does a mitt romney endorsement matter? come on. heather: that's something many folks are questioning. david touched on this a second ago and that is the delegate count. mitt romney said this. i think there are ways he could be persuasive and then he went on to talk about airplan

. >> three years ago, after mitt romney's defeat, the party charted a path back to the white house that imagined a bigt republican party and recommended new appeals to women and minority voters. >> a welcoming attitude that we need to have in our party. i think that we had some biologically stupid things that were said in the last election. >> i'm joined now by the chairman of the republican national committee, reince priebus. chairman priebus, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. thank you. >> let me start with your republican front-runner continually calling the process you're overseeing rigged. how do you tell republican voters you are running a fair process when the front-runner is calling what you're doing rigged? >> well, i'm not -- you know, look, i don't know what the motivation is. there's really nothing that's rigged or being changed or altered. these are the same rules that were in place basically for over a century. but at the very least there's no way around the fact that all of these states submitted their delegate allocation plans by october 1st of 2015. and not a single t

bernie sanders he did better than mitt romney did in these states when he was running and he was at that time considered the presumptive nominee. that's another big score for trump. you mentioned to eric when you talk about connecticut. fairfield county, vermont, montgomery county, pennsylvania, montgomery county, maryland, high education levels. very affluent, suburban communities. trump is winning across the board and it's beginning to end the idea that he has this ceiling. tonight he came close to or exceeded 60% in three of the five states. crossed 50 in all but also breaking through the idea that the only types of supporters he's able to win are poorly educated, low-income whites. it's clearly a much larger coalition aligning behind him. >> one shows people consider themselves most conservative went for trump and not for cruz. what does this mane next? we go to indiana, out west, you think that would be cruz country. >> you are dealing in the, you know, in the amtrak area. you are dealing with conservative doesn't necessarily mean socially conservative and cruz came off as socially conservative which is not popular in this neck of the woods.

if you look at the metrics of how obama beat romney four years ago with asian-american, hispanic, african-american, women, you don't see where he can take a bigmp is an ultimate fighter. and in a way he's a bar fighter. if 4th doesn't beat you on the stage he gives you the sense that he will wait for you in the parking lot afterwards. so will it be robert's rules of order when they are on that stage or is he -- it's going to continue to be trump being trump. because one of the reasons why i think bernie sanders ought to get out of this now because he's only helping trump. of all the odd things that have happened in this campaign, the unspoken alliance right now between the old socialist from vermont and donald trump, trump wants him to stay in forever. trump wants him to be a third party candidate because bernie is helping him not that he needs talking points about hillary's weak spots but he's helping him. >> and he's signaling to people on the left, it's not time to unite and come together against donald trump. you said something interesting there. the trump you see who is not the trump we see necessarily, what is that guy like? >> no, he's

romney. that's the numbers we're seeing right now, except with donald trump it's a much bigger pool of voters. that's a bigy of these republican candidates could unify the party, including donald trump. we've got to ask the question of people not supporting donald trump, would they support trump. i think we see in our polling the same numbers. >> i was going to say, josh barrow from "business insider," he says with regards to this polling, he says, look, when this is taken before the nominee is presented, when it comes down to it, folks will say, really, are they going to happen vote for hillary clinton? people will remember they hated hillary clinton for 30 years, they're not going to cross over to the democratic side. is that true? >> that's true. i've been asking it with hillary clinton's name in it, of republicans, and you get maybe literally a handful of republicans who said they would vote for hillary clinton against a republican nominee who is not their guy, that's like 2%. yeah, they're not going to vote for hillary clinton. the question is do they stay home, vote for a libertarian like gary johnso

are for♪ >> for months mitt romney and president obama have attacked each other, talked past each other, but three times this fall they face each other. debates can make a bigany people watching your two candidates together in a presidential election as you have on debate night. >> the campaigns can't control the debate the way they control everything else. >> no matter what you do as a manager to get them ready, he's still got to step in the arena. it's just two of them. you don't know. >> it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education, and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> one brain freeze can end your campaign. >> the -- umm. >> commerce? commerce. and let's see -- >> rick perry was a serious contender until this debate. >> oops. >> forgetting is bad, and looking bad is bad. in the very first tv debate, richard nixon refused to put on makeup. it hurt him. nixon later said -- >> more important than what you say is how you look on television. >> so campaigns obsess over details. when ronald reagan debated walter mondale, rollins and beckel were the opposing campaign managers. >> do you remember how high

romney won by two states. that's a switch around. i'm joined by the round table. radio host, powerful signal here, describes himself as a bigrk simmone, i've got to go to you, this whole thing, i don't know how donald trump can lose to a guy named ted cruz who knocks new york values, out of towner, no urban aspect to him and uses mccarthy to don car leanly -- corleone. >> when you try to steal trump's act, you've got to know how to do it. >> it doesn't stick. >> you've got to do know how to do this stuff. that's why long island is trump country. you can drive around with a trump bumper sticker, you'll be fine. you might say what about the rudeness, he is mr. rogers on long island. >> sabrina, are you surprised, new york city, media, every two hours, has to be retanked, refilled, looking for something that hurts, every two hours, they want something that hurts the politician. >> i think that it's interesting, because there is this narrative of donald trump struggling among suburban republican voters, so people are watching long island, does that mean he'll have trouble there. i don't think it's necessarily true in new york,

big issue. mitch mcconnell, i want the delegates to pick somebody who can win, i don't think he's talking about your father. mitt romney's talked about, john kasich's talked about it and state gop leaders have talked about a white knight candidate. if they were to try to disenfranchise the voters where does that go. >> you saw the performance today. he was a couple of million votes ahead. after the 26th he'll be many millions of votes further ahead. that's amazing. look at states like nevada, they had the biggest turnouts they ever had. you look at south carolina and new hampshire, these states are having the biggest turnouts they've ever had. you see democrats who wanted to vote republican and they were getting turned away, you see in pennsylvania how many people -- democrats who registered as republicans early. >> it was over 100,000. >> why turn those people away. >> your destroying the base. >> the number is 1,237. if your dad gets anywhere between the 85 to 95 delegates which appears he's on track to tonight, that gives him an almost 300 delegate lead. he's up 20 in pennsylvania and maryland. delaware and rhode isla

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romney and john mccain and jeb bush boycott the convention, that is survivable. ribas urges people to get in line and the delegates to get in line, that will make a big difference ass whether trump can unify the party. >> they made progress this week, the trump people. it still strikes me that they have not radically altered the tone. people look at the quote, new trump. they like the professionalization. they like having someone who to deal with -- someone to deal with who looks like that. there's a lot of nervousness around the fact that trump is a loose cannon. how does he comport himself over the next six weeks, not the six days since the new york primary or 4 days since the new york primary? is donald trump really more disciplined, more traditional, over the course of six weeks? >> joining us by telephone from florida, our reporter who has been following the rnc meeting. if you are ted cruz, what's the best news you can say you have brought out of hollywood, florida at this rnc meeting? they say they have brought a new supporters. they say they got a comfortable handful, more than a comfortable handful of rnc meters to come their way. they think they are maki