ron desantis is an public office right _ not? ron desantis is an public office right now. _ not?epublican party in 2016 and took over with the traditional republicanism that all the republicans and more established republicans might find palatable. how would he if you wear then the republican nominee, how would he match up against biden for example? he may prove challenging to biden. obviously he has a strong base of support in florida. florida is a key state. he would appeal to the base. the question is whether he would be also appealed to my ship —— moderates across the country and taken their view of many democrats and extreme positions confrontational social positions on things like gay rights and the coronavirus pandemic that might put off some people but he has planned to try to broaden his base. elon musk took to twitter a few days ago and said ron desantis was his favourite republican right now and he's thinking about supporting him if he runs for president in 2024 stills there's the possibility he could reach out to some other voters beyond just the base. blisa could rea

right now, the way i look at it, maga world is in love with ron desantis. said with or without donald trump. what about with donald trump? right now, all indications are a matter of when, not if, he's going to run. if you have ron desantis and donald trump both running in 2024, what do you think the donors are going to do, al? >> well, we had that in 2016 in florida where marco rubio decided to run against his mentor jeb bush, right? so, for floridians having two people from the state of florida running in a primary is nothing new. i don't know what's going to happen. a lot will depend on numbers and so forth. but i know donald trump's worried about it. he's got roger stone here in florida taking a look at what's going on. in the desantis camp. and we'll see. but, you know, ron desantis has to run for governor. he's doing very well in the fundraising end. in the polling end. and so a big win until november will give him quite a bit of momentum headed into the 2024 cycle. >> "the new yorker" did a profile they released desantis, 10,000 words at least, maybe

what's holding ron desantis back?r nine other people run against trump, fragmentation of the field becomes trump's best friend. >> there are democrats in florida love that ron desantis kept florida open. not the same thing as voting for him, but it's just a point that he's a complicated guy. and when you look at it, who as a democrat would you rather run against, trump or desantis? >> i think that they both are very problematic. you heard joe biden say before that he wouldn't mind running against trump again. and i think that is, you know, some of what a lot of people in our party believe. at the same time, you -- ron desantis also has a record, and one thing that came out today that you reported on is the fact that children under 5 are going to get vaccinated soon, but yet, you know, florida hasn't necessarily preordered those vaccines for those children. so he has a record, and democrats will use that against him. >> thanks to you both. appreciate it. >>> and next, the u.s. provided ukraine with another billion doll

ron desantis has wonderful record. he leads his state wonderfully.e is as tough of donald trump when it comes to policy he doesn't have the baggage of donald trump. donald trump will be incredibly important for the republican party and america first moment. i hope he steps aside to let ron desantis take this and we will win. elizabeth: capital riots to indict trump, to your point he has too batching gauge. chris christie is saying it is suburban women, the women voters who abandoned trump late in the became. that is still a major problem for him that, they are just feeling like with what is going on with the capitol riots hearings, it is too much that trump should stand aside. >> make no mistake if ron desantis is not in the picture i think donald trump would run and he would win. however i think we have better option. we're in a great place. we have two great options. i think one would have easier time than the other. one would be more focused on policy than the other. one wouldn't be a media target as donald trump certainly is. the other one is cer

the sunshine state, a battle royal could be brewing between donald trump and florida governor ron desantist 2024 bid for the white house. you are looking at the first ever desantis flotilla in jacksonville. organizers saying that over 1300 boats registered to honor the governor. remember, flotillas have been a hallmark of pro trump floridians to express their support while he was in office. but are moderate republicans slowly moving on from donald trump and his weighty baggage? in favor of perhaps a more palatable leader? according to the washington post desantis has been quietly building his fundraising networks while gaining national attention for his attacks on president biden and his focus on culture war issues. plus, the second year in a row desantis has been donald trump in a straw poll at a conservative gathering in colorado. joining me now to read the tea leaves and help me figure this out is a florida state senator jason kidd zou, also a good friend. senator, thank you for being here. you know both trump and desantis. i get it, it's demonstrative. but do you think it signals perha

so, you know this is, again, we'll go back to ron desantis, this is something we'll be talking about for a while. favorable ratings among republicans nationally, if you look among all republicans, you see trump with the overall favorable, 79% to 57% for desantis. but look at those who have an opinion of both of them. there are many voters, gop voters who don't have an opinion of desantis. of those who have an opinion of both of them, 83% have a favorable opinion of ron desantis, trump, just 81%. so ron desantis, among those who know both of them, actually is better liked than donald trump is. >> they both live in florida. >> they both live in florida. this is another way of saying it. look at this, where the voters who know both of them best, look at this, basically an even matchup with donald trump at 44%, ron desantis at 42%, and, remember, trump won that primary by 19 points in 2016. so the fact that we are this close is a real suggestion when voters really get to know these candidates, ron desantis does as well as donald trump does. >> donald trump, strong but maybe not as strong.

to call a special session -- after 15 weeks, lawmakers are pushing governor ron desantis to call a special session. -- the promised court fights over the so-called trigger band that took effect after the supreme court ruling. inside the new york times, a look at the state of california. california state lawmakers are expected to put a state constitutional amendment on the ballot that would solicit lee protect -- explicitly protect the productive rights. the amendment would go to voters for approval as states across the country react to the sweeping supreme court decision. we will dive more into what is happening in various states but we mostly want to hear from you. what do you want in your state? what do you think the right policy is for your state? women only is who we are talking to in this first hour. (202) 748-8000 for women in the eastern and central time zones. (202) 748-8001 for women in the mountain and pacific time zones. cindy is up first out of connecticut. caller: good morning. this is so much to unpack in 10 seconds, but i really believe that the majority of the country is ve

after the midterms, trump, though, is keeping an eye on the rise of florida governor ron desantis.e back now with cnn anchor chris wallace on this. what do you think about this? is trump afraid of desantis? how do you see the dynamics here? >> well, let's talk, first of all, about timing. there is a big debate inside the trump camp whether or not, i think the president, former president, is one of the people pushing the idea of going sooner rather than later. i think because he just wants to be part of the action. i will tell you the argument against it is just make the focus of this election joe biden and his record, you know, whether it is gasoline or inflation or the supply chain or immigration or crime, all the other things that are supposedly his debits, and if you get donald trump in there, and he's campaigning, then suddenly it becomes more of a choice election even without donald trump on the ballot. as far as ron desantis is concerned, you can say a lot of things about donald trump, but he's not stupid. and, you know, anybody looking at the polls would say that the greates

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now he thinks ron desantis is the governor of florida -- he thinks he can win. his words.n win. >> desantis actually speaking today, he had some thoughts about musk. >> they asked him what he thought of this and ron desantis, the governor of florida said he welcomes support from african-americans. african-americans is a white south african man. when ron desantis was elected governor of florida, he did receive dozens -- a lot of support from black america. those were his words today. >> this is just the way he is leaning. what do you make of the fact that he and president biden who should be natural allies just continue to spar? >> elon musk said the democrats are the party of division and hate. the friction with the white house and the administration, he called -- >> we will see how that plays out. thank you and by the way, we are watching that all hands meeting were elon musk will be speaking to all the employees at twitter thursday morning. we will have full coverage of that. that does it for this edition of bloomberg technology. we will be back with a number of great gu

a poll out of new hampshire shows ron desantis in a race winning even with donald trump in the race. e's clear momentum for desantis right now. >> you're eric compare desantis buzz to george w. bush before he won two terms in the white house. you have to see some context. desantis, 36 years younger than joe biden. many in your own party have raised concerns about that. how concerned are you if this momentum is real and lasts and becomes the nominee versus biden? >> i think the reality, is he needs to get through a primary. i think you're going to have a very messy primary. people thought that democrats were going to have a messy primary. republicans will with this factor. i'm not worried about it yet. they're cut from the same cloth. they stand for the same things. democrat also define desantis in that way as they would trump. i think the republican party needs to figure out whether they're the party of trump and desantis or larry hogan and a more moderate. if they pick trump and desantis, it's going to be hard to win. regardless, it will be a close race moving forward. the reality, i

ron desantis, over the weekend, in a conservative straw poll, beat out trump. ron desantis?s another version of trump. the same thing you are talking about, democrats, could they see forward, have a more centrist candidate? what about republicans? do you see a lane for this liz cheney type character, forging ahead? i mean, you had five republican congressman who supported the january 6th committee. they survived last night. trump don't like that. >> yeah, no. i think that is actually very telling. in some very interesting ways. i have said for a while there is always been a lane for the least shane, larry hogan type of republicanism. the question is, how do they then begin to navigate and how do they set it in motion? i think what we are seeing from some of these primary results is the beginning of the cobblestones on that pathway. so, when you are looking at someone like desantis, who is just a dressier, a more swab, and debonair version of the trump right, he's going to be able to go out there and play that lane that's one heat that trump lane in play. the problem is, that

florida governor ron desantis.ances on covid-19, critical race theory, lgbtq issues and immigration turned him from obscure former congressman to a national figure. in a recent poll of likely republican primary voters in new hampshire, this is from the unh survey center, desantis and trump are in a statistical dead heat for the 2024 nomination. desantis 39%, trump 37%, pence at 9. nikki haley at 6. in a head to head against biden, desantis does better than trump. biden beats trump 50-43, desantis beats biden 47-46. most dauntingly for the donald, desantis has a huge lead over trump among those who digest conservative media. fox news viewers, desantis, 46, trump 32. among conservative radio listeners, he's up 50-34. in a new yorker piece this week called "author dexter fill kins writes quote, while trump with his lazy persona projects lack of seriousness, desantis has an intense work ethic of formidable intelligence and granular understanding of policy, articulate, fast on his feet described as trump with a brain. p

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and being responsible public servants. >> michael, look a little further ahead for me, ron desantis over the weekend, in a conservative straw poll beat out trump, but ron desantis, that is just another version of trump. the same thing that you're talking about, democrats, could they see forward to have a more centrist candidate, what about republicans? do you see a lane for this liz cheney type character forging ahead? you have five republican congressmen who supported a january 6th committee, they survived last night. trump don't like that. >> yeah, no, i think that actually is very telling in some very interesting ways. so i've said for a while, there has always been a lane for the liz cheney, larry hogan type of republicanism, the question is how do they then begin to navigate, how do they set it in motion? i think what we're seeing from some of these primary results is the beginning of the the comfortable stones on that pathway, right? so when you're looking at someone like desantis, who is just a dressier, a more suave and deboneer versioning of of the trump man, he is going to try

the reason as he's doing a good job. >> florida governor ron desantis is being seen as the potential ep further in the gop's attack on businesses. desantis has a new enemy that tampa bay -- the florida governor vetoed for a new facility this week after the team hosted tweets calling for gun safety loss after last week's school shooting in uvalde, texas. let that sink in. they just posted tweets. this was just weeks after he waged war on disney and took away their tax status for the crime of opposing the don't say gay bill. how can republicans say that they are the party of businesses when they are targeting them like this? we're going to have much more after this. g to have much mor after this coming up at the top of the hour, giovanni destefano is known for representing charles manson and saddam hussein. that was before questions about his identity started to surface. msnbc presents the three parts guy regional series, devil's advocate. the mostly true story of giovanni d. stefano. it dives into the investigation that unravels stefano's true identity. here's the preview. >> in 1990,

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it is getting slimmer by the day, 8 to 9 points between these two gentlemen, donald trump and ron desantisrida desantis has the edge. it is still early, anything can and will happen. it is interesting. what do you make of it? >> the elephant in the room, keep with 2020, no one cares, inflation is 8.6%, gas double since the start of the presidency, people don't feel like relitigating january 6, 2020, but the real elephant in the room's age and energy. donald trump has extraordinary amount of energy for a man of age somehow but people are tired of boomer supremacy. technically donald trump joe biden are so old, they are not even boomers. ron desantis has energy and some people say he has time on the side but momentum on side. he is at the vanguard of if you kind of conservatism where it is not proactive but speaks intelligently and knows how to push back, the new culture war is not the socially conservative of the past, not about gay marriage, not about abortion because that is a state issue. ron desantis -- neil: your audio keeps going in and out, nothing to do with you, if donald trump is

he is now leaning toward ron desantis, the governor of florida.es he can win in his words, he thinks he can win. emily: and desantis had some thoughts about the support. ed: they asked him what do you think of this, and ron desantis, the governor of florida, said he welcomes the support of all african-americans. of course, elon musk is a white south african man. when ron desantis was elected governor of florida, he did receive voting support from black americans, so those were his words today. emily: it is what it is. what do you make of the fact that he and president bided, who should be natural allies, continue to spark? ed: elon musk has been changing his politics. he said the number that's are the party of division and hate. basically, there is friction with the ministration and the white house. elon musk called him out for not supporting tesla. he has accused joe biden of leaving the russian revolution in. -- in ev's. we are watching on all hands meeting, elon musk speaking to all of the employees at twitter thursday morning. we will have ful

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monitoring their traffic is a shift in support off of donald trump towards florida's governor ron desantisal, cleaner option for them to run for president in 202a. but of course, the big problem with that, is, will donald trump allow that to happen, assuming he's not injail? that's pretty doubtful, but you do see, more and more, as these hearings have gone on, among the rank—and—file republicans, a shift off of donald trump, onto his successor, most likely ron desantis. very briefly, this was the third public hearing. what stood out for you most, one big point? the fact that the people closest to the president knew what they were doing was illegal and knew was wrong, admitted that to each other, but then were continuing to go on television and tell the american public the opposite. so that opens them up to criminal liability, the fact that they knew what they were doing was illegal, and that was the most interesting part of today. that was former prosecutor ron filipkowski about talking about how the far right thought of these hearings. a special report we have from central africa. a giant

. >> so, is ron desantis the person who solves this for them? our colleague, steve kornacki pointed out a new poll showing ron desantis is the preferred candidate in 2024. is that because he offers all the trump policies and none of the trump stink? >> yeah, he's trump without the mess. so far. and, i think that -- >> so far. >> so far, but i think that there are plenty of republicans who want a reason to go back to voting for the republican party because they still believe that it was just a personal issue with trump and that the rot did not spread right down to the grassroots. and again, i've argued. i'm a former republican. i spoke big of myself as a senator right conservative. i've argued that the republican party has to be just voted out down to the grassroots. and the party has to just start over again. but, i think for a lot of people, they are looking at somebody like desantis and saying, well, if we just get rid of trump than all the other problems in the party, all of this marjorie taylor greene's and double birds and the jordans and a

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ladies and gentlemen, please stand here feet for the best governor in the nation, governor ron desantis republican governor ron desantis announced his plan to stop florida kids from learning too much about america's history with race and racism, he brought special guests. >> all right, [mispronounces eulilia], where are you? >> thank you governor, thank you so much. you can butcher my name anytime. >> eulilia jimenez, part of the moms for liberty miami chapter is also an ally of florida governor ron desantis. and a big supporter of his stop woke act, which restricted discussions of race in workplaces and schools. >> remember, a lot of things with kids, especially younger kids happen subliminally. worksheets have them, where there's certain words. slavery, you know, black history, certain key words that are constantly -- i'm not talking one day, one week, one month, it is a constant display of this. that's an agenda in itself. >> and today's america, do you believe that racism has been solved? do you believe it's no longer part of the everyday dynamic of this country? >> i believe right

ideally you would have president trump for four years with ron desantis as his vp and then desantis stepsn ideal scenario. i don't know that ron desantis would be able to take a backseat for four years. but i think that would be best case scenario. maria: can they do that? can president trump ron as president and desantis as vp even though they're both from florida. the president changed his address from new york to florida, would he need to change it back? can that fly? >> i don't think president trump where he says his addresses. i think the big thing with desantis -- this is a big thing early on but it does show an interest in what desantis is doing is been very good in florida. i think you'll see closer president trump is getting closer to making his own run. you get to see a lot more friction between those two camps. they're not going to be as nice in the front and i think it president trump wants to do this you'll see a little bit more friction. as far as the vp role for ron desantis you don't see that happening, i don't see them actually teaming up. that doesn't seem logical at thi

i mean ron desantis wouldn't be presidential candidate ron desantis and traditionally purple floridamaga petrie dish. >> andrew gillum was leading in the closing stretch and lost by a handful of votes. charles, this is a pretty serious indictment, 21 counts, a federal indictment. what do you see in here and what do you exactly -- how bad could this be for gillum in terms of jail time? >> make no mistake about it, this is an ugly situation and it does not look good for andrew gillum. when you're talking about federal prosecutors, what we know is that usually where there's smoke, there's fire. there was a statement put out by gillum's attorneys where they said the federal government got it wrong. i know that that's what lawyers are supposed to say when they're defending their client, but the likelihood that that's true is probably very low. now here's the thing, though. i want people to consider this is not the story. andrew gillum is joe blow citizen. he's a private citizen at this point. granted, these were things that took place when he was in the public eye. but at the same time, t

we saw signs, flags, music, some of the signs included ron desantis 2024, guns, god, desantis, it's notwho they would see on the 2024 ballot on the republican side? more people said governor desantis than any other candidate, whether it's donald trump, ted cruz, or even ben carlson. -- between republicans hanging out on the st. johns river in both, and the thousands and thousands of people that are marching across the country in our march for our lives for gun -- legislation. here's what some of the republicans had to say. >> when i say, is gun stone people kill people, people kill people, so we need to invest more. instead of spending more money out into other countries that are not our friends, we need to invested here, invested in mental issues cause we have a lot of mental issues in this country. >> now another topic that a lot of folks that they are thoughts about, was the high gas prices for the folks on the bill the river here, they were not bothered by this >> all right, got. prices >> and for us today -- that wraps it up for this, hour i'm -- monday at 2 pm eastern on and bc ne

if he runs for the nomination i think it's likely going to be him no matter what ron desantis does.ase is still with him enough where he's going to be the nominee of the republican parity but probably going to have this hanging around his neck to make it easy for joe biden to wage a campaign against him. >> brendan, i know you weren't still on the hill while cassidy hutchinson was coming up there with mark meadows and was part of these meetings, but he had this practice you were telling us of having a notetaker with him and i was wondering if you could speak to just the access and the credibility as you see it of her testimony. >> yeah, absolutely. mark meadows was well-known to always have a young aide with him in any every meeting and always insisted they be in, in this case it was cassidy hutchinson. no matter how small the meeting was, how high level the meeting was if it was just senior aides he was going to insist that she was in there. obviously not to participate in the meetings about you to be there as a notetaker, to be there to mark history and obviously this is coming ba

i look at florida and ron desantis being groomed to be the next grand wizard of the gop on a nationaldo nationally and in florida. >> 100%. >> -- >> yes, very quickly, go ahead. >> you mentioned jeb bush -- jeb bush, if you are watching, speak up and don't be a coward. he lives in miami-dade county. in that article he said he is not involved in politics anymore, unless it's calling rhonda scent is one of the hundred greatest leaders. step up, don't be a coward, jeb. call out this madness. >> jeb represents what is wrong with this party. they are too afraid to say anything because they think there may be a side benefit at the end, in a fascist takeover. sorry to say it, but i think that's true. when we come back -- i will say, before we leave the segment, 390,000 jobs created in may. that could win the week. but we will find out who we think when the week. it could have easily been anita baker's and need onstage shout out to a rapper for her ownership of her master recording. stick around and find out more. ound and find out more my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. ruby's a1c is

gillum lost to republican ron desantis in the 2018 race by just four tenths of a percentage point. ♪oning of america continues tonight with a look at how the deadly drugs actually get into this country. it turns out there is a significant connection to and a direct flow from china. national security correspondent jennifer griffin shows us tonight from the pentagon. >> daniel per that died of a fentanyl overdose just like the 70,000 americans killed last year many of them children. experts say this is now a national security issue appearing to be a targeted attack with state sponsors. daniel's father agrees. >> is this a way of china attacking our democracy? i would think so. there is so much fentanyl right now in this country that there is enough to kill every single man, woman and child in the united states. >> puerta's 16-year-old daniel ordered a pill online he thought was objection i co-done it was fentanyl. ship to mexico. once smuggled across the border chinese businessmen in the u.s. launder the money. >> he was just an innocent kid. he made one dumb decision and he died. >> t

have seen, and monitoring their traffic, is a shift off of donald trump towards florida's under ron desantisrun for president in 2024 -- for them to run for president in 2024 —— lorde's governor. but of course, the big problem with that, is, will donald trump allow that to happen, assuming he is not injail? that is pretty doubtful, but you do see among the more and more, as the hearing has gone on, among the rank—and—file republicans, a shift off of donald trump, onto his successor, most likely ron desantis. very briefly, this was the third public hearing. what stood out for you most? what big point? the fact that the peeple _ you most? what big point? the fact that the people closest _ you most? what big point? the fact that the people closest to _ you most? what big point? the fact that the people closest to the - that the people closest to the president knew what they were doing was illegal and knew was wrong, admitted that to each other, but then were continuing to go on television and tell the american public the opposite. that opens up criminal liability but the fact that they knew wha

donald trump and ron desantis. guest: both together have demonstrated records. it is not just a rhetorical exercise, both of them have shown exactly where they have fallen. clearly on issues related to life, marriage and religious liberty, the nation of israel is another key issue i think for a lot of christian voters. all we do in situations like that is, again, just going over what they said but more importantly, what they've done on these issues. it is yet to be seen. i think it is probably fairly obvious that president trump intends to run again. governor desantis obviously is running for governor in florida right now, and the jury is out on what his decision is going to be, if and when he were to be victorious in the florida gubernatorial, what is next steps would be. but we would just document and distribute around 44 million safe voters across the country these issues and let people make their own decisions. host: president trump spoke recently at the state and freedom coalition conference, and viewers watched on our website at c-span.org. how often do yo

and if you're casting about for a trump alternative, ron desantis, the governor of florida, who has a of the same bravado, but not a lot of the same baggage, might be a pretty good choice. >> i think that raises the question of what we're going to see in this field coming up when it comes to republicans, this idea that people believe that trump is going to run, and potentially, you know, be up against a ron desantis, a close ally of his, a pence and that. if you're trump and you're seeing this poll, what does that mean for you going forward? >> well, i mean, nothing immediately, first of all, only two points, within the margin of error, two years out, trump doesn't lack for self-confidence, but you have to wonder, what is the dirtiest word in donald trump's lexicon, loser? and the idea that, you know, despite what he said he was a loser to joe biden, now he could be a loser a second time and maybe, you know, not even get to the ncaa finals, doesn't get to the final four, he's busted in new hampshire. something like that. if you're the president, the former president, and you were to l

i think that is people like ron desantis is counting on.a different situation herself, in wyoming, because she has become the chief attack dog, but she is talking to those voters, she is talking to republican voters, independent voters, people who may want to vote against joe biden, and if republicans actually nominate trump, we will have a really tough conversation, along those lines. but we've got to get there, first. i think this is an attempt to basically say look, the department of justice could try to resolve this judicially, but we all know it is not going to be solved unless it is solved politically. and, that requires convincing people. i think that is what you are seeing happen. >> yusei david urban say, to anderson, that he is still pretty confident, that the base voters, those who elect the nominee for president, are not convinced, because they are not seeing it. they are not hearing the same set of facts. they are not living in this reality. >> it's too early.'s but i was assigned to say that, such an important point. it is too

the question is, whether if the map will last the next ten years, this was inevitable ron desantis fought, this district that ran from tallahassee to jacksonville, uniting and creating a strong black democrat voting population in the primary. he fought to make sure that this district got obliterated into republican districts. the question is really, is it a constitutional long turn, florida voters approved anti gerrymandering provisions in their state constitution, that's why state lawmakers don't want to go down this road. he essentially vetoed the old bat they drawn and said, nope, you're gonna go with my map. in the end the state lawmaker said okay, send us the map we're gonna pass it, we have no other choice. >> so, it seems in florida constitutional. ohio, it's been ruled unconstitutional by the court. the court centrally said that we have no other option to change things before the next election. so, moving forward with these map even though they've been ruled unconstitutional. >> yeah, ohio's found this stalemate. advocates will tell you reform is not easy. ohio voters i think wors

i think that's what people like ron desantis are counting on.counting on this. she's in a different place herself in wyoming because she's the chief attack dog. she is talking to those voters, republican voters, independent voters, voters who may want to vote against joe biden. and if the republicans nominate trump, we're going to have a tough conversation along those lines. we've got to get there first. this is an attempt to say the department of justice could try to solve this judicially. we all know it's not going to be solved unless it's solved politically. that requires convincing people. i think that's what you're seeing happen. >> you saw david urban say to anderson that he is still pretty confident that the base voters, those who elect the nominee for president, are not convinced because they're not seeing it. they're not hearing the same set of facts. they're not living in this reality. i do think it's grueling. i was just going to say that. that's such an important point. a, it's too early. and the other thing -- and you touched on thi

joe rogan said he would support governor ron desantis in 2,024. >> i think ron desantis would work asr florida has been admirable. stuart: do you think the political tide is beginning to turn towards desantis within the republican party? >> i think republicans are showing a number of candidates will be very viable and easily beat the president. ron desantis, i served with him in congress, a good congressman but has been a great governor and an incredible amount of money, the top couple in terms of potential nominees for the republican party for the presidency of the united states, a lot of people think let's do that for the country. stuart: i have been saying people like trump's policies but don't like his style. what do you say to that? >> a lot of people are tired of the rhetoric, and hashing through the old stuff. elections are about the future, the optimism of the future and ron desantis personifies that excitement, that youth, that vitality, background and the military, jack officer, accomplishing in congress can beautiful wonderful family and pretty much every box you have out t

ron desantis invited athletes who were barred in other states to come to florida to compete.ida to those with special needs. i think it is amazing and again, as i mentioned, some people want to have the vaccine. other athletes, their doctors say, i don't think you should have the vaccine. >> ainsley: some of them have disabilities and the doctor said i don't recommend the vaccine for you. to cut them off and say you can't compete as an athlete, you know, it's ridiculous. florida lawmakers meant and they say, if you actually require everyone who participates in the special olympics to have a vaccine, we are going to slap you with a fine? >> yeah, and the total of the fine would have been $27 million. i think another interesting point, ainsley, there's a long history of forced medical procedures on people with special needs, especially those with intellectual disabilities. and so i think that by extending medical freedom to all athletes to, the same freedom extended to all the citizen of florida, i think it's in the spirit of the special olympics which is organization that has

the president isn't ruling out florida governor ron desantis as a running mate in a potential 2024 whitese. asked about the possibility of a trump-desantis ticket, trump noted he has a good relationship with the florida governor before taking credit for his political success. i get along with him, i was responsible for his success because i endorsed him. president trump has hinted that he could mount another presidential campaign after losing reelection to president biden in 2020. selma is next in michigan. independent line. caller: yes. i have been following ever since trump got in office. i am more democrat than i am independent. my concern is that we are so focused on getting to the top and considering trump as the top person in this whole scheme of taking over the government. i have also read jane -- book on dark money. what part has koch played in this whole scheme in the republican convention and so forth? i find it hard to believe that someone like trump is actually smart enough to have come up with this scheme. it almost seems like trump isn't just a pundit in that chain and we h

far away from there to to talk a little bit. >> ainsley: great idea. >> steve: here is governor ron desantiseaches in pownall op county and clear watch beach is a great place to be. >> what a way to bring in the governor of the great state of florida ron desantis. >> sometimes you just throw a fastball. >> steve: good morning >> gov. desantis: great to be here. >> ainsley: so glad to have you here. >> steve: here in the streets of new york city things are quiet but down in our nation's capital one hour ago a group started a blockade of the supreme court area. what they're trying to bring is attention to the fact that the supreme court may overturn roe v wade later today or then again the coverage could come out next week when they ultimately do issue their opinions. >> gov. desantis: well, i think that we have a rule of law in this country and you don't get to just have a mob descend on a supreme court justice's house or try to impede the operations of government because there may be a decision you don't like. that would be considered an insurrection to stop a court from functioning, and yet

florida governor ron desantis, guy? harris to get, they used to hate each other but they work something out and they could work it out again. power sharing dealer something. i think the publicans would be thrilled to run against gavin newsom, against california in a national election. if you want america to be california with this greasy man as its standard bearer torch carrier? yes or no? that could be the decision we make collectively as a country, i think most americans would say no and a debate would like to have. kennedy: i love california, i really do, i don't like the direction it is heading in. he got high taxes, a ton of homelessness no one has gone under control. crime soaring, they run out of u-haul's because so many people are trying to leave the state. how does gavin newsom make the argument that he's been a success? >> i think what he does, he compares himself to ron desantis in florida or greg abbott in texas and a lot to work with if you want to start that comparison. kennedy: lower taxes in florida, kid

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ron desantis is a great example. hard-hitting, hard-working very successful governor who is making life better for people in florida. compare that to new york or illinois or california. >> laura: complete decay. newt, great to see you, as always. the democrat january 6 essential trial it is not about the preservation of democracy. as michael antone writes, the committee has budgeted life now no important information evidence technote smoking gun, all they can do is scream and america's places. that is until merrick garland brings criminal charges against the former president and god knows how many of his associates. joining us now is michael anton. michael, you'd think that is the real price here. that is what they are going for? prevent from our emergent again politically? >> michael: i think it is what they would like to do. whether they have the nerve to do it will depend if they feel like they built enough of a case or support in the big rock -- drug receipt and that media. pretty much locked up. i think it is wh

being racist or noninclusive in the company is really being held hostage by radical activists ron desantisrecent months has stripped disney of its special status. their stock prices has trampled. in the last year 77, 33% through mobility's even despite all of these major warning signs telling disney that it's time to course correct they can't because the radical activists at the ground level but inside the company has held the corporate, the executives in the content hostage that's what were seeing this today. >> laura: we understand say there's a few firms the semi going after ron desantis and challenging is anti-woke agenda and legislate of agenda because he thinks of the first of emmett right to be pursuing what they want to pursue sets to be. he's not letting it go these corporations are fighting back. >> they are but unfortunately for them the governor is on firm footing the legislation they passed was a star up the woke act which stops critical race theory and the public and private institutions as well as the parental rights in education act which restrict gender ideology and omitte