ron desantis's career. we will take care of the people that work here. i would absolutely reverse this decision on disney, making sure we truly create an economic environment where people can prosper. >> congressman, your reply? charlie: we are talking about winning the election and winning in november. i am pulling -- polling ahead of nikki by 17 points in november. >> the only poll that matters is at election day. >> excuse me, i have not a roof -- interrupted you. >> do not interrupt. >> i am very confident in our opportunity to win this election, confident in the primary, not complacent in the same way about taking on ron desantis i am pulling ahead of -- pulling ahead of him today -- polling ahead of him today. host: we are gamine -- we are going to move to the environment. i think we can all agree that florida is ground zero to the effects of climate change. in south florida we often see street letting on any given day -- street flooding on any given day, on any given dry day for that matter. funding

on who can these ron desantis.r charlie were going to see ron desantis running forpresident . over me in this primary you'll have a fighter and we will end ron desantis's career. that is my promise that i give to you to make sure we create a business friendly environment that takes care of the people that are here. people that work here so i will absolutely reverse the decision on disney making sure that we truly create an economic environment where people can prosper. >> when talking about winning the election and winning in november. the latest poll has me pulling ahead of nikki by 17 points in the primary . i've raised $12 million. >> the only poll that matters is the election. >> i will interrupt you, i hope you will extend me the same courtesy . >> is the only union in the state that has support including the afl-cio. i'm confident in our ability to win this election, confident but not complacent and the same way about taking on ron desantis, i'm pulling ahead of him today. >> we're going to move now to the en

or ron desantis to run for president and her as vice president. guest: there's certainly a lot of republicans who are talking that way and we saw images, even in 2016, of nikki haley with tim scott and marco rubio. she was a rubio supporter in that primary. nikki haley is clearly positioning herself to run for president. she said she won't run if the former president runs while ron desantis has made no such commitment and is positioning himself to run no matter what happens. we will see if nikki haley revisits that but she is one of the names a lot of people are looking at very seriously. desantis obviously, former vice president pence, former secretary of state pompeo, and maybe others will get in. current senator ted cruz, texas senator, clearly would like to run again, thinks he has some standing as a runner-up from 2016. republicans have a lot of history of nominating the previous runner-up in the next competitive primaries. if former president trump doesn't run, there could be a big field, and we saw 16, 17 candidates in 2016. we could see so

ron desantis, of course, said it does look like he's running for president. t of thinking desantis could be angling to be the alternative to trump out there. there is a big fight going on here between the florida view of the world, the ron desantis view of the world and the gavin newsom view of the world and the california view of the world. is that the future of the party? will this be 2024 or 2028, a little preview here? maybe. for right now it's gavin newsom deciding to spend $100,000, not a huge amount of money in the context of a re-election campaign to advertise in florida. >> there have to be a lot of activists, both republicans -- wouldn't there be the hope there would be more diversity both republican and democrat? >> and you see other diversity out there in the ranks of both parties actually at this point, right? there is a lot of interest in both of these players as potential leaders of the party. i think it's because it's not just who they are but what they are leading, what they are representing out of the country. ron desantis has a very clear go

anna, paul brought up ron desantis. obviously he's kind of the hottest commodity in the republican party right now. he's seen as a potential alternative to trump by many people. he has tons of money in the bank. if trump's already in the race, do you feel like that blunts the opportunity for desantis to really launch a challenge? >> you know, first thing ron desantis has to do is win the governor's race and win it strongly, right? it showed that he is dominating in this very important state. look, i live in florida, i'm in florida right now. donald trump is in florida, ron desantis is in florida. you know, part of me wonders how much of this that donald trump is supposedly considering doing announcing early, has to do because he can't stand the fact that the spotlight is moving on from him and that people are talking more and more about ron desantis and others as successors and people that would be better nominees with less baggage. and i sometimes ask myself what would happen if donald trump tried to show ron desantis

or ron desantis to run for president and her as vice president.uest: there's certainly a lot of republicans who are talking that way and we saw images, even in 2016, of nikki haley with tim scott and marco rubio. she was a rubio supporter in that primary. nikki haley is clearly positioning herself to run for president. she said she won't run if the former president runs while ron desantis has made no such commitment and is positioning himself to run no matter what happens. we will see if nikki haley revisits that but she is one of the names a lot of people are looking at very seriously. desantis obviously, former vice president pence, former secretary of state pompeo, and maybe others will get in. current senator ted cruz, texas senator, clearly would like to run again, thinks he has some standing as a runner-up from 2016. republicans have a lot of history of nominating the previous runner-up in the next competitive primaries. if former president trump doesn't run, there could be a big field, and we saw 16, 17 candidates in 2016. we could see some

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. >> former president trump is not ruling out a presidential campaign with florida governor ron desantisis has emerged as trump's biggest competition for the republican nomination, even, in fact, beating trump in several gop straw polls. adding desantis as his vp would remove that hurdle at least. >>> meanwhile, former president trump's support among his base may still be strong, but republican mega donors are reportedly fleeing to other presidential candidates. trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election revealed by the committee accelerated that trend. some of the biggest real estate executives in new york who backed trump for both his runs for white house said this time is different. their view is he's taken major hits during the january 6th hearings. none from that group are oming to defend him, at least for now. the ex-president faces rare pushback from conservative publications, incluing an editorial from the "washington examiner" that declares trump is unfit for power again. >>> for more on this, let's bring in the co-founder of "axios," mike allen. good to see you. "axios" is r

none other than ron desantis. -- >> i'm sorry, trying to go to the desantis bite. let's take a look at that. >> desantis sort of admitted it was time to move on when asked if he accepted joe biden as the president-elect. >> it's not for me to do. here's what i would say. you know, obviously we did our thing in florida. the college voted. you know, what's going to happen is going to happen. >> now, it's a faux casual style -- we did our thing, the electoral college always votes, but it's different than trump's big lie. >> it did. had shades of josh hawley running away. he didn't want to get too close to the danger of the mob, so he tried to distance himself and give himself some wiggle room for the future. i think desantis is actually very cagey and cunning in that sense. that's why tucker carlson is circumspect about embracing him and thinks trump is the answer, is the key. all you have to do is go to youtube, go to c-span, and watch desantis's speeches. desantis is extremely boring. i think donald trump describes

>> look, there's ron desantis imitations everywhere. in texas is jealous of ron desantis and he's trying to do things like this. yes, this gets you positive coverage on the ben shapiro show and right wing media, it's in this ethos that they're taking down the cultural left a peg, taking down gays and lesbians. the lawsuit is tied to the lawsuit bounties in texas. that's how they're enforcing these laws, through the courts. if you're a lawyer representing a school district, you may not be anti-gay but you might not want to have to deal with getting sued so you might be giving advice to teachers, you can't do certain types of projects. this is what my daughter brought home for school for valentine's day. they asked each kid to make a valentine. is that instruction? that seems like instruction to me, if you're telling a kid to make a valentine for your family, if it's a gay family or lgbtq family of any kind. if you have one parent of another kid in that class who is uncomfortable with that, they could sue the teacher. so you could see a l

that is not how ron desantis thinks.gets involved in the national race, it's because the polling on the president's side is not going in the right direction. he wants to go into it, he would go into it as would a mike pompeo or a glenn youngkin possibly. look, it's too early in the game to know, martha. that's the reality where we are right now. it's a wait and see game. i think president trump will move quickly to announce his run and i think that then the other candidates will see what happens following the january 6th committee. the president continues to have very strong support nationally. >> martha: fascinating to see who runs on both sides. jehmu, mercedes, joe, thank to you. happy fourth of july. so a message from bill bennett about what it means to be a proud american as the nation transforms before our eyes over the past couple weeks. a number of significant ways when we come back. >> even on our worst day, we are blessed to live in america. [lazer beam and sizzling sounds] ♪♪ i recommend nature made vitamins b

it is good to see ron desantis and you two ladies doing something about it.k with your elections. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> todd: possible punishment submitted for the border agents on horseback who did absolutely nothing wrong. i will tell you everything they know so far. >> carley: and an entire family including children are forced to jump from the window of their burning apartment building. >> [screaming] >> we got you, we got you, come on! good job! >> carley: we will be talking to the hero officers who helped save the lives and absolutely incredible rescue coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> todd: texas governor greg abbott with power to return illegal immigrants back to points of entry at the border. >> carley: brooke singman with the latest of the show down between taxes and the federal government. brooke, good morning. >> hey, good morning carley, todd. that is texas governor greg abbott taking address and his own hands with the executive order to address the chaos at the border. in point of national guard and state troopers to apprehend illegal migran

i think he thinks that he created ron desantis in some ways.ll the 2018 race ron desantis ran very, very much as donald trump's man ranking ads that frankly you have to look away from because they were so embarrassingly devoted to donald trump. he did win in 2018 in significant part because he had trump's support. he's steadily been establishing his own record. a very strong record. a strong record on the economy, strong record on handling covid. a lot of people like that. trump thinks that he's there for the taking. trump thinks because of his record, because of trump's own position on things like vaccines and stuff like that where desantis has been a little squirrelly, i thinks that he can take on ron desantis and he relishes the idea. >> neil: thanks, gerry. gerry baker, "wall street journal" at least. 7:30 p.m. on fridays. we have more coming up including where we go with this climate push on the part of the president. some might say the timing is odd. given the heat wave, some say it's odd but the white house says it's perfect timing after

ron desantis is not staying at home and staying quiet. he seems to be laying the groundwork right now to challenge trump. >> he's been the beneficiary of all of the negative news about trump in these january 6th hearings and elsewhere. every time a trump challenger -- trump-endorsed person falls, everyone says, man, does trump still have the juice? >> desantis is looking good to some of the big money donors. >> exactly and has been noticeably kawhquiet when it co to defending trump and getting behind him in the ways you have seen other governors and people who might potentially run for president some day. senators are falling all over themselves to praise the president and ron desantis is just raking in the donors. >> i think we talk about the fallout from january 6th. look at some of the quotes from people, i can't even say who they are, they're all unnamed and off the record, "the new york times," one trusted current adviser calls the testimony a killer. this paints a picture of trump completely unhinged and completely losing all contro

i support ron desantis. i love donald trump. think you did a wonderful job and if he were to be the republican antedate again, i would definitely vote for him and i would send him money. but i think he brings in too much baggage. i think we need to get someone who doesn't have all the pent-up hatred by the middle. not the left. the left, you could put mother teresa in as a republican and left with a terrible things about her and hate her. it's all about hating any republican. i think that desantis is going to do a good job. i don't think he brings the baggage. but i'm afraid, and this is what i think is going to happen, i think that liz cheney is going to put her hat in the ring. i think that george soros and all the democrats are going to say ok, go vote for cheney in the republican primary. so that she captures the nomination. and then she will lay down after she gets the nomination and throw the election to the democrat. i'm afraid that's what's going to happen. we are, we are in the inception phase of a civil war in this cou

i get it the importance of police as does ron desantis.. it's a quality of life issue. and that's the thing f you're going to california, okay, to open up a business, okay, that is like going to mardi gras to get sober. the wrong environment to do it in, all i'm saying. >> jimmy, look forward to find out what is in your background that couldn't pass a check. >> you don't want to know. elizabeth: jimmy failla, one and only jimmy. great having you on. >> you're the best. elizabeth: you too. critics ripping into dr. fauci, new analysis what went wrong in his pandemic leadership. dr. marty makary next on "the evening edit." ♪ it never looked like real food. with the farmer's dog you can see the pieces of turkey. it smells like actual food. as he's aged, he's still quite energetic and youthful. i really attribute that to diet. get started at longlivedogs.com when you're tired of looking at your tired old bath, we fit your style, with hundreds of design options. i really attribute that to diet. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to

but just because ron desantis has done everything right. n, when i say that people say, oh, jolly isn't bad with desantis. i am not, i disagree with his politics. i ran against him in 2016. the only candidate some say that has ever lead desantis. i am the former member, and you would be the next president of the united states, but i will say about that is that he stole the assets of maga nation and trump and he inherited none of the liabilities. and he is practice those assets in florida with near perfection in the eyes of republican voters. and i think the final step for the scientists is simply this, katie. if he is reelected in november he says he will answer the calls of for the republican nominations. i am running around the scientists not against donald trump. if donald trump gets the nomination, i am excited to support him again. that has been his posture all along, and honestly i think ron desantis is no passing donald trump for the nomination. >> emily, following thursday's february six hearings, we morocco do wall street journal pu

and that ron desantis is a poster child.to say to democrats we need to reclaim how we're talking about things. the ad says freedom about 30 times and talks about what it is to be free as a collective way as a country. he says that's how democrats need to talk about it. he feels he has the stature and liberty to swing a little bit wider. >> it's interesting. and the language there and what you're seeing on screen with the american flags, it's intentional. and we know that he really lays into desantis during a phone call with you, but he also said this about fighting trumpism long-term. do you think he'll be putting out more of the ads targeting other states and their governors as well? >> he was not laying out the rest of the game plan, but he said the rules of engagement changed. we've just getting started. we have to be more aggressive and bring the fight to people. i think we'll see more of that. we've seen him take some swings at the governor of texas, at the attorney general of texas. these are people who have in common

i think ron desantis is, as you say, far too gone, he's built up a team. if he wins decisively in florida this year, i think ron desantis is running regardless of what trump does or doesn't do. >> call me crazy, i think trump clears the field. this is still his party. john, you're right, everybody is positioning themselves, but, man, he still owns the voters right now and once he is out there doing his thing and criticizing these people, it's -- slow down. slow down. >> mike pence, who is he positioning himself with? people like me are going to see him as a complicit coward who did nothing but lick trump's boots for four years and people who love trump are going to see him as complicit with what they see as a rigged election. >> is that not an endorsement? you didn't endorse mike pence, just to be clear? >> i have to tell you i find mike pence saying that we have to look forward and not look back, in other words, move on from january 6 so offensive after we heard his secret service calling their families to say good-bye on january 6. if nothing else, if no

but i agree with dan this is something a guy like ron desantis probably welcomes.illinois politics the governor there is a another guy who is seeming to raise his national profile with an eye for may be running in 2024. would he have any better prospects than newsom or does he have a record he would have to explain to? >> well i think illinois may be the only state in the country more mismanaged than california. people flee illinois to florida and texas. i don't think he stands any better chance but in fact i am amazed he's even consider it given he's not even a shoo-in to win the governor's race later in this year end has to spend heavily against his potential republican opponents in their own primary because he is worried about his own reelection. >> okay thank you all. we come back a closer look at the june jobs report is hiring remains robust despite high inflation and rising interest rates. plus a new analysis as red states are winning the post- pandemic economy as workers and employers please states run by democrats. and advice can help you build a future for

ron desantis. take a look. >> freedom? it is under attack in your state.e it harder to vote. restricting speech in classrooms. criminalizing women and doctors. i encourage you to join the fight. >> earlier i spoke with a reporter who broke this story about what newsom is up to. >> he say that is he is doing is not running for president but trying to get the party to wake up and he said the rules of engagement changed and needs a different approach of democrats to dealing with republicans and he says ron desantis is the target because he is the poster child for what republicans are becoming and what it is in a post-trump politics saying we are as daylight and darkness to me. >> it is fascinating that newsom not too long ago facing a recall challenge and came out even more politically emboldened to feel confident enough to run ads in florida. how's desantis responding? >> he can light money on fire if he wants to. it is airing on fox on july 4th and focused on freedom so democrats should talk about again. he told me last week he is worried that republicans a

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california's governor is taking out air time on fox news telling florida residents their governor, ron desantis, has america all wrong. >>> up firstly a fourth of july inflection point for president joe biden. the president will celebrate american independence today at the white house, hosting military families before a marathon fireworks show. those fireworks, though, and virtually everything else will cost much more this year than last. it's part of the summer squeeze that has cratered biden's rating and has democrats on track to lose big at the ballot box in november. mj lee is with us. how are they spending the forage. >> reporter: we're going to see the president any moment now return to the white house from camp david where he and his family spent the holiday weekend. and this morning we saw him tweet out a holiday message to the american people. he wrote, the fourth of july is a sacred day in our country, time to celebrate our nation, the only nation found on an idea that all people are created equal. make no mistake, our best days still lie ahead. that is patriotic and optimistic tone w

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also, questions linger about ron desantis. desantis, who have been basically called the great white hope i so many in the trump faction, you know, the guy pulls even with kamala harris, despite the fact he has been called the next big thing by the national media on the left and the right and the successor to trump. it will be interesting to see if there is a pathway for glenn youngkin. i suspect, despite the fact he is not a fire breather in the vein of ron desantis and trump, i expect of those to fall, he is next in line. >> joining us now is our senior political correspondent. his latest article in the examiner is entitled glenn youngkin expands political operations of 2024 speculation grows. is he thinking about it? >> he is thinking about it. what he is trying to do over the next several months and see how the national theater scene looks. a lot of people say he hasn't even been governor for more than a year. and a normal political environment, we say, we would say who bothers with this after only a year? but he only has o

democrat gavin newsom of california and florida's republican governor ron desantis. for reelection this november, and his campaign produced an ad that's airing in florida targeted squarely at desantis. take a look. >> freedom, it's under attack in your state. your republican leaders, they're banning books, making it harder to vote, restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors. i urge all of you living in florida to join the fight or join us in california. >> so, how does picking a fight with desantis benefit newsome in california? cnn's senior reporter edward isaac told our congressional correspondent ryan nobles the thinking behind this move. >> he says, ron desantis is the target here because ron desantis is the poster child for what republicans are becoming and what it is in a post-trump politics. he said, we're as different as daylight and darkness to me, and he really wants to draw that contrast out and do it as aggressively as possible. >> reporter: it's interesting newsome not long ago was facing a recall challenge. he's obviously com

>> yes, alicia, arguably, ron desantis has the hottest hand in the country right now politically, amonglicans or democrats. certainly, if donald trump does not, run it's almost a coronation for desantis in the republican primary. it's desantis, and everyone is. wake here's what to watch for, he's looking for reelection in november, he can't personally indicate if he's seeking the presidency in 2024. when you are reporting on from axios, is what is out there is a committee to recruit rhonda santos. coming off of the november reelection, should he be elected, you will see the -- begin the trial balloon that ron desantis should run for president. notably, ron desantis has distanced himself from donald trump, and the dance has officially begun. yesterday, donald trump said maybe desantis would be his running mate. ron desantis in november, definitely wants to win reelection by more than 3. 4 percentage points. the reason why? is because that's how much donald trump won florida by. we understand his was to be able to say that i am the stronger candidate in 24, look at me, but he's going to r

florida governor ron desantis. turning point u.s.a. bills itselfself as grass root conservative movement targeting high school and college kids to get them politically involved. >> turning point u.s.a. lives to be changed here. how many future governors and senators and congress people are just going to be walking through the doors. >> trump. >> our informal poll was unanimous in who these young voters would back in a trump vs. pence primary. >> i'm probably still going to go for trump on this one. >> i wouldn't vote for mike pence because of everything that he has done with the whole january 6th thing. >> on the stage is missouri senator josh hawley, the big headliner tomorrow night is former president donald trump who is widely credited with getting ron desantis elected in the first place. sanity only won by 32,000 votes in 2018 out of 8 million votes. bret? >> phil keating is tampa thanks. twitter loss. wall street off guard with the number of people using that platform actually on the rise. the latest quarterly earnings figures off

they are looking at ron desantis, a nikki hailey, a tim scott, whomever that may be. mike pence is now entering that equation as well because there's exhaustion. that's where the hearings have really been important. it gives those republicans another way to say good-bye to donald trump and put him in the past. >> your article noted that trump hasn't tried. the he just says people are lying. that's pretty consistent with what he's said when being accused of wrong doing over the years, whether it was in business or politics. you wonder where that leaves him with those for lack of a better phrase, lukewarm supporters. i don't know that anybody is expecting him to try to mount what would actually amount to a defense. >> that's one of the things that's been striking. these hearings are one sided. they are nine members, all of whom already made up their minds about what their donald trump's role was. there's no opportunity for president trump to present a defense or cross examine the witnesses. that's the choice president trump and kevin mccarthy made not to have representa

or someone like ron desantis, i think that makes more sense for the republican side. trey: how about you guy? >> my guess is that someone who is either the current president or current vice president will be the nominee for the democrats, i am not sure if joe biden has it in him to run again. i think they have to go through the motions they are going to seek reelection because they don't want to be a lame duck this early, i think resting it from him if he wants to be nominee from him, it is hard if not him, vice president is first woman of color in that position, it would be difficult in party that is fixated on identity politics that take from this her. on the republican side, i agree if nominating process started tomorrow, overwhelming favorite on republican side would be donald trump. i do not think that is inevitable, i think that ron desantis would have a good show the but i think that trump is in the driver seat. trey: we ask questions detached from reality, i mentioned two presidents in my lifetime got above 5 5% of the popular vote, my point. is will we see a

to be ready to leave. >>> governor gavin newsom is getting sharp responses from tv ad accusing ron desantis and allies on leading attack on personal freedom that aired on fox news. desantis dismissed the ad, calling it desperate attempt to win back refugees who fled the hellhole of california to go to florida. >>> kellogg lost legal battle in uk. failed to block new regulations to ban nonhealthy foods from high profile locations in supermarkets. high court rejected argument that adding milk to cereals like frosted flakes makes it more nutritious. >>> vietnam veterans receiving >>> vietnam veterans receiving honors today. like pulsing, electric shocks, sharp, stabbing pains, or an intense burning sensation. what is this nightmare? it's how some people describe... shingles. a painful, blistering rash that could interrupt your life for weeks. forget social events and weekend getaways. if you've had chickenpox, the virus that causes shingles is already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. it takes energy to take on the world.■ so whether you■r

notably, ron desantis has distanced himself from donald trump, and the dances officially begun.y, donald trump said maybe desantis would be his running mate. ron desantis in november, definitely wants to win reelection by more than 3.4 percentage points. the reason why? is because that's how much donald trump won florida by. we understand his was to be able to say that i am the stronger candidate in 24, look at me, but he's going to rely on his proxies to get that message out. >> here's the thing, juanita, you have liz cheney read repeatedly urging republicans to break away from republicans. on stage night in her primary debate, she said that she would never violated her oath of office. if voters want someone who, will they need to vote for someone else on that stage. i want to know both if you think any will follow her lead, and sort of where the line is for desantis on, as i like to put it, having his trump and eating it to. >> look, as far as liz cheney, goes my fear is that a lot of voters in the audience will take her up on it and vote for somebody else. we know that she's

he is going after ron desantis.desantis has one of the states people are flocking to, they continue to flock there. california's completely mismanaged. you make some sense of this, sir. >> [laughter]. no, there is no sense to be made of this, not only are people fleeing california under gavin newsom, you have this amazing new phenomenon where you actually have people fleeing california to go to mexico which is, maybe there is some solution there to the illegal immigration problem. we could put gavin newsom in charge of everything and illegal immigration would completely flip around and we would need to build a wall to keep people from going into mexico. no, it's absolutely ridiculous. if gavin newsom thinks he can run for president against ron desantis or anybody else, the drug problem in california is a lot worse than we think because he is smoking something. jackie: he has got one thing going for him, charlie. he is a good-looking guy, okay? you look at him in the ad, he is -- >> i take your word for it. jackie: h

host: and why do you like ron desantis? caller: he's younger.'m 66 but i think the young people need some, you know, someone younger, more promise in america to go forward. less controversial. i really do. host: that's sylvia out of virginia. on the investigation into january 6, we're going to be talking to one of the members of the select committee, the congressional select committee later in this program, jamie raskin of maryland. but action on the justice department's side as well finding out today -- here's the lead story in today's "washington post." the criminal probe by the justice department now looking specifically into the former president's actions investigating that as part of its criminal probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. that's according to several people familiar with the case. "the washington post" reporting that the degree -- until now, the degree of prosecutors' interests in the former president's actions specifically had not been reported. the revelations, they write, raise the stakes of an already politi

they decided ron desantis is the new boy wonder. as long as trump keeps leading out they're going keep pressing desantis' button. he's got elites flying down to tallahassee to kiss the ring and other parts. he's the man of moment with the billionaire class and republicans and it's driving trump out of his mind. he sits in mar-a-lago on bedminster and throws things at the walls every time he sees desantis. he is the guy rupert has picked, and rupert owns the most powerful normative force in politics outside of trump. i do have a theory, though, ari, that eventually rupert's instinct to watch a car crash, a fight, he'll elevate trump again because trump will get back out in the fight. the reality is donald trump controls 30% of the republican base. the trump hotties will never break, and that's enough to win primaries. >> there's been many, many strategists like yourself, campaign veterans as well as political scientists who point out that what we call campaigning, much is designed for public and media consumption. the private parts, r

guest: there is no question in my mind that ron desantis is gaining on the president.lls indicate that new hampshire, the first state where we vote in the u.s., he is overtaking mr. trump in a potential head on head matchup. the potential legal liabilities here are diminishing psident trump's star power. laura: we are hearing president trump's one time chief of staff, mick mulvaney, who resigned in disgust on january 6, is speaking to the committee investigating january 6 tomorrow. how do you assess the significance of that? guest: the white house chief of staff is probably the second most powerful person in the white house, it is not the vice president. they manage the staff and the president. mick mulvaney will be able to share what was the president doing or not doing and shed more light on what it was like in those fearful hours while the insurrection was going on. laura: thank you. a u.s. congressional committee investigating the arms industry says guns manufacturers earn more than $1 billion from the sale of semiautomatic weapons over the last decades. some have

voters in america's other 49 states take note. >> this is great news for ron desantis. the libs. he loves when he's attacked in the media. but this authoritarian streak is fascinating. two things about desantis, one is the fact that if you ask most people if he's a conservative, they say, well, of course he's a conservative. and yet he doesn't let small businesses decide how they keep their workplaces safe because it doesn't fit his political agenda. even at the height of covid, he would not let cruise lines take what steps they thought as private employers they needed to take to keep their cruise lines safe. you could talk the same thing about local school boards. you could talk so many things where the decisions are centralized. the centralized state tells everybody in all 67 counties what they're going to do, how they're going to do it. there's nothing conservative about that. you actually want to empower local school boards and principals, teachers, small business owners. he just doesn't view it that way. the second thing, though, it's hard to remember, but ron desan

potentially heads into a third presidential race, he's nervous about the prospect of running against ron desantisst ron >> a new polling is showing job biden at the lowest approval rating. lower than trump or obama at their lowest. our polls like this driving not just trump but frankly anybody looking at the race? >> is certainly has an impact. on the democratic side, there's a frustration that there is a lack of leadership. a vacuum of a strong message that could push back against a lot of the policies that the republicans are passing across the country. at the same time, almost the ceiling that democrats have to own the positions when it comes to the economy, a lot of the circumstances that led to where we are at frankly have happened under the trump ministration. we really would like for there to be more of a strong message, rather than feeling like we are on defense all the time. i think you will see a lot of democrats energized by what governor newsom is doing. >> let me ask you about him. i think when you were the majority leader, you know him, you worked beside him, you know his political

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people are frustrated about that. >> reporter: is this a beginning of a political rivalry between ron desantis newsom of california? >> i think that we are in the thick of it. he has been prodding him for a long time and he certainly takes shots at california a lot. i think that it has been a month-long back and forth. >> reporter: i appreciate your time and reporting and staying up late for us on the east coast. i appreciate it, have a great night. >>> also tonight, it is the sad reality, bay area police officers undergoing intense training for mass shootings. jody hernandez was there and got exclusive access for us. although this was a drill, it may be disturbing to some of our viewers. >> reporter: two dozen east bay officers spent the day going through realistic scenarios right here at the high school. gearing up for the unthinkable. it is a situation no police officer ever wants to face, but today they practiced responding to a deadly school shooting, complete with mock victims and an active lone shooter. >> you get the elevated heart rate and you feel like you are in an active shooter th

it has given other potential republican rivals for ron desantis and others a window into the thinking of the former president. he still is controlling the party. and with the iron grip it has seen several months ago. >> it is a great point you make with the grip he has. georgia also had these development. the da saying she might subpoena more people. what is the significance of what is going on? >> in some ways, it is adding to the narrative that the committee is laying out for the public doing what he said, seeping into the american consciousness. and the investigation -- i thought it was interesting. the people that the investigators in georgia were seeking to talk to some of the obvious ones, rudy giuliani and the like, but i thought it was interesting they wanted to talk to senator lindsey graham, who had been one of the people who made phone calls to georgia officials. and the big question is how much is this really going to matter. how much at the end of the day are americans going to shrug off all of this as a story that they already knew, that they already felt somewhere deep

but this is what i think won't carry quite the sway as the feds laundry. >> by the way ron desantis was also at the same golf club in montana this week. not with the governor, but there together. it's called stock farm. they should have the debate right then and there, larry. >> and that would have been interesting, very interesting. i wonder if they talked. that would be something. >> they all see each other on the golf course or whatever they do. larry, thanks for your time tonight. >>> up next oil prices are dropping, so why are gas prices still sky high? we're going to break down why we're not seeing a drastic price drop at least not yet. we'll talk about how gas prices are in other countries. >>> and also the a's ballpark plan is moving forward. the vote that could have put his >>> welcome back to nbc bay area news tonight. what's happening with our gas prices? crude oil is dropping dramatically. the price of oil, but not gas. take a look at the past month the cost of oil has fallen 20%, but our gas prices have not down just about 2%. and that's left a lot of people frustrated at t