ron fournier and bob costa, always, thank you. boy, ron, congrats on your book, man. it is incredible. >> thank you. >> it really is. stay with us, still ahead on this extended edition of "morning joe," what donald trump told us this morning about finding a running mate. we'll be right back with that. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain... i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap. your hair is still thinning. you may have inactive follicles. re-activate them with women's rogaine® foam the only once a day product, proven to regrow new hairs up to 48% thicker revive your va va voom and save on any rogaine® i think we should've taken a tarzan know where tarzan go! tarzan does not know where tarzan go. hey, excuse me, do you know where the waterfall is? waterfall? no, me tarzan, king of jungle. why don't you want to just

ron fournier, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> woodruff: your book has struck a nerve.hink it may be because you bring us along on your journey to understand your son. how did you decide to do that? >> my wife said, "you're going to do this." my wife, laurie, is a remarkable woman who-- literally, the day we got him diagnosed, we were walkingp on the of the doctor's office and all i was concerned about is how this was going to affect me, and can my boy not play sport and all the things a self-involved father might and laurie said, "it's time to step up. you have to step out and get him out into the world, and you have to get him learning things-- he was 12 at the time-- things that we thought were uncomfortable to him. i spent a lot of time, as we do in this town, i'm on the road, away from the family. so she said, "get out. i want you to go to presidential libraries, presidential sites." his fix aegz at the time was history, and that was the job, covering the presidency, that kept me away from him so she sent me out on these road trip glz people are familiar with alsoa

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. >> and ron fournier of the national journal.t did strike me this fact, he still has to govern ohio for the next couple years. there's a point where if you stay in too long, you become the laughing stock. and you want still want to have credibility when you govern a significant state like ohio. >> you do. and kasich leads with his heart. he is the guy we've known 20 years. >> that whole storiy rings so true. of course he got to the plane and said, what am i doing? >> that's him. it's a tough job. trump is right when he's talking about this. the guy's put it all on the line. here's someone who did risk at this point making himself a little bit of an -- putting himself in an embarrassing situation. when you're a political leader and nobody's following you, you're just a guy out for a walk alone. and that's what he was beginning to look like. i think this preserves some options for him down the road. a lot of people are beginning to think, what's the world going to look like in four years? >> i have to say, though, i am surprised wi

our sunday group, our senior political analyst, brit hume, and susan page, and george will, and ron fournierith the national journal author of "love that boy," a perfect gift for father's day. >> bright -- some people are upset that the president criticized someone during a foreign trip bringing up "politics stops at the water's edge," and that seems quaint. were you offended but what he said? >> i wasn't. >> second, let me get out the question, were you offended and now that obama's approval rating is back over 50% for the first time in a long time how effective do you expect him to be for the democrats in the election? >> he will be effective to the extent the approval rating remains high. there is a very high correlation between an incumbent president approval rating and the success of the part nominee in the fall. in that stays up it is a significant plus in secretary hillary clinton's favor as she runs. whether he will be, how effective he is on the stump is anyone's guess but the approval rate correlates with winning. that is key. i was not offensed because the custom of politics stopp

political analyst brit hume, susan page from "usa today," syndicated columnist george will, and ron fournierurnal," author of the new book "love that boy." it is a perfect gift for father's day. >> well, thank you very much. >> there you go. brit, some people were upset that the president criticized trump while on a foreign visit at an international summit, bringing up the old axiom, which seems kind of quaint now, that politics stops at the water's edge. first of all, were you offended by what obama had to say? >> oh, i wasn't offended. >> and secondly, if i can get the questions out -- one, were you offended? and two, now that obama's approval rating is back up over 50% for the first time in a long time, how effective do you expect him to be for the democrats in this election? >> well, he'll be effective to the extent that his approval rating remains high. i mean, there is a very high correlation between an incumbent president's approval rating and the success of his party's nominee in the fall. so, if that stays up, that's a significant plus in secretary clinton's favor as she runs here.

ron fournier, our friend in the atlantic.es, "the presidency is not the ultimate reality show. it's one thing to compare four-day national convention to a television show. it's another to call the presidency reality show, but that's what paul manafort did in a television show. i'm surprised by manafort's honesty because trump treats the office he seeks as a poll, poll ratings, no substance beyond script. divides between bad guys and good guys, oversimplifies the plot. should an office once occupied by harry truman be filled by a man who thinks he's living out his truman show. joe, what do you think? >> i'm not sure paul manafort is just being glib there. i don't think i would take what paul manafort thinks. i do think donald trump has approached this from the beginning like a reality show. his instincts for what has kept him in prime time for 14 seasons when hardly anybody else in american television has done that. it's actually translating very well to the campaign trail. mike barnicle, i think donald trump's biggest challen