what does ron klain do to get this started and get this done?: one thing ron klain has done and president biden has done is continue to have the oval office with an open door. . there was a little bit of sniping earlier this week. there was some action on whether president biden was the one who signed off on that counterproposal last week. the white house maintains it was him. republicans kind of insinuated that it got a new way of negotiations. but the positive sign is that both sides are continuing to engage. jonathan: some hearings a little later with the big ceos on wall street. what are you looking for? mario: what you guys have been having front and center today, inflation. the white house yesterday, jen psaki said that is something they are concerned about with housing prices, affordability, etc. so let's see how that comes up in some of these hearings. jonathan: a little bit later on, we will hear from the ceos of wall street's biggest banks on capitol hill. tom: they are going to do this thing. they are going to line up, do the testimon

plenty to discuss and the republican party's fighting and i want to bring in ron klain.th us. vaccine demand in america slowed down, the past dose in the seven-days and the week prior, what is the plan if the country doesn't reach the president's new goal of at least one shot to 70% of the u.s. by july 4th? is there a plan b? >> no, it's an achievable goal. stretched but not achievable. we're vaccinating millions of people a day and slowed down. we had a pace for the first 100 days trying to get 220 million shots into arms. we vaccinated 57% of the adults in this country. we're on the back half of this project. so it's going to go a little more slowly. it more about finding people who haven't found the vaccine yet convenient enough, easy enough to find. that's what the president laid out today a plan to make it easier for americans to get vaccinated a website and way to text and get your vacvaccine, n appointment vaccinations and more rural sites. we're trying to bring the vaccine to people as we go from 57% to 70%. >> you have states offering, west virginia has given ou

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we begin this morning with white house chief-of-staff ron klain. morning, ron. >> good morning, john. thanks for having me. dicrson: e hehis ort the irangovernmha aged with the west to release some detainees. what can you tell us about that? >> john, i can tell you, unfortunately, that report is untrue. there is no agreement to release these four americans. we're working very hard to get them released. so far there is no agreement to bring these four americans home. >> dickerson: sometimes the other country will rush to the microphones to force your hand. do you feel tlat? >> no. again. we're working hard to bring these americans home. when we get that done, we'll obviously be delighted to nun announce that news. >>lk about vaccinations. there is something called vaccine hefty. this week vaccinations were down 10%. the director of the c.d focus on this, what can he do to increase incientes incentivesfor people to get vaccinated. dr. scott gottlieb says there is a big portion of people who are not finding the time. it is not that they're against it.

. >> dickerson: and ron klain joins us for a one-on-one. republicans are sounding the alarm about big government run amuck. >> even more taxing and more spending to put washington even more in the middle of your life from the cradle to college. >> dickerson: we'll hear from south carolina senator tim scott, hen is also the party's lead negotiator on police reform. and then a covid check-in. cases are down, but so are vaccinations. how can we pick up the pace to overtake the virus. we'll talk with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. and 100 days into the biden presidency, americans weigh in. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ ♪ >> dickerson: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we begin this morning with white house chief-of-staff ron klain. good morning, ron. >> good morning, john. thanks for having me. >> dickerson: as we come on the air this morning, there are reports that the iranian government has agreed with the west to release some detainees. what can you tell us about that? >> john, i can tell you, unf

partly because ron klain understands how washington works.he agenda right now in a way that's quite powerful and quite notable. that could change over time. but for the moment, that's the one person i think you should watch. his is the twitter feed you should follow to watch the thinking in the white house. >> peter baker, always appreciate the chat on a sunday. >>> new comment about masks coming from a particular republican lawmaker. while it might be best to just ignore those remarks, we should ignore gop leadership to at least disavow the statements. my panel will weigh in, i'll have them just minutes away. the light. ♪ it comes from within. it drives you. and it guides you. to shine your brightest. ♪ as you charge ahead. illuminating the way forward. a light maker. recognizing that the impact you make comes from the energy you create. introducing the all-electric lyriq. lighting the way. ♪ when it comes to laundry, lighting the way. everyone thinks their way is the right way. i wash on delicate. i just stuff everything in. you have to was

the president has said about $10,000 is what you would be comfortable recently his chief of staff ron klain says actually say reviewing the authority to cancel up to $50,000 which would be in line with what the more progressive liberal wing of the party wants. senator schumer as well as senator warren has been pushing this issue for $50,000 of cancellation since the beginning of the pandemic. >> host: how does that happen, legislatively, executive orders, what are the parameters? >> guest: this would be through executive order. the was a time where the biden administration have preferred for congress to take up the issue. i think at this stage senator schumer and warn would like a simple and more streamlined approach, and having the president addressed the issue rather than try to go through congress even with this slim majority is more beneficial in there might. >> host: part of the debate for those families where worked hard, pay for college tuition did not take out any loans, is there a sense of this being unfair? >> guest: certainly. this is become a heavily bipartisan issue, a divide i

white house chief of staff ron klain. for having me, nicole. it's always great to be back on your show. >> thanks, ron. >>> when we return, federal prosecutors are investigating another instance of election meddling, this time whether pro-russian officials in ukraine interfered in the 2020 election by funneling disinformation through rudy giuliani to help donald trump. we'll talk to one of the reporters who broke that bombshell new story in "the new york times" next. >>> plus, now that republicans have blocked a commission to investigate the capitol insurrection, questions are growing about why so many of the rioters have ties to the u.s. military. >>> and more legal trouble for the trump organization. we'll look at the criminal charge the manhattan d.a. could be considering as his investigation moves forward. >>> "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. continues after a quick break. dot n'go anywhere. tonight, i'll be eating a pork banh mi with extra jalapeños. [doorbell rings] thanks, ba

among the guests, white house chief of staff ron klain; senator tim scott of south carolina; and former. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. president biden ordered u.s. troops to begin their withdrawal from afghanistan starting today. the taliban marked the day with an attack. cbs's charlie d'agata is in afghanistan tonight. >> reporter: cbs news has learned that today the kandahar airfield in the south, a key hub in the american pullout, came under rocket attack. a u.s. military spokesman told us, it caused no injuries or damage to equipment. we can confirm that fighter jets from the u.s.s. "eisenhower" conducted a precision strike this evening on a suspected taliban position, destroying rockets aimed at the airfield. the commander of u.s. forces in afghanistan, general scott miller, has warned the taliban, there would be retaliation against such action. >> we have the military means to respond forcefully to any type of attacks against the of attacks against the coalitioi coalition, and the military means to support the afghansety. >>orter: timed to in with the pullout, the taliban relea

rerter: "face the nati house chief of staff ron klain said he's optimistic both parties will be able to hammer out a deal to rebuild america's crumbling infrastructure. and he defended a white house proposal to raise taxes on corporations and high income earners to help pay for the $2 trillion bill. >> is he not going to raise taxes on people making less than $400,000. the middle class are not going to see taxes go up. >> republicans argue the plan is bloated big government. >> it is the trillions and trillions of dollars of reckless spending. when i look at this, this is a staggering amount of spending, like someone with a new credit card.>> tnt the ho negotiate on a smaller mortar targeted plan. negotiate on a smaller more targeted plan. >> only about 20% of the jobs bill that the president has proposed goes to real and tunnels and airports and waterways, we can be pretty close. >> if you are talking about spending hundreds of billions of dollars to benefit public service union, than we're far apart. >> reporter: also today the president issued a statement commemorating the 1oth an

here's white house chief of staff ron klain. there is no agreement to release these four americans.ed this with iran and our interlocutors all the time, but so far there's no agreement to bring these four americans home. earlier i spoke to iran expert karim sadjadpour, who's a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. he explained the strategy behind iran's detention of dual—nationals. i think at this point, there is diminishing returns for iran to continue to hold onto these dual nationals. the challenge for the united states and britain is how do you get your citizens released without appearing to pay a ransom and essentially incentivising iran to continue the practice of hostage—taking. so that's the tricky part for the west. there are elections in iran injune, this also comes off the back of talks about the iran nuclear deal which have been happening in vienna. how does that play into the narrative? ultimately, the powers that be in iran will remain. ayatollah khomeini, the supreme leader and the revolutionary guards. presidential elections don't have a tr

but as the former vice president for barack obama and they sort of define their presidency by what ron klain these four pillars. four crises. gun reform, gun control, was not one of them. but if you look at his presidency, and again, we talk about their stuff -- presidents can control and then there are all these unscripted things. there have been so many mass shootings just as there were before since he took office that is very clear he feels the pressure to do something. but it's an incredibly tough issue in congress. and when i talk to people on the hill, they point to, you know, a couple of things they say, if we couldn't get it done after sandyhook it's increasingly unlikely and this moment right now is not better and in some ways worse than other failed efforts to really do pretty modest things with guns so far. rachel: lisa, there's a lot that he's facing an uphill battle on. he said to transgender people out there that he has their back. urging congress to pass the equality act. and gave us a little bit of a reality check here. what is the hope for that even getting done? lisa: this

here's white house chief of staff ron klain. unfortunately, that report is untrue.release these four americans. we're working very hard to get them released. we raised this with iran and our interlocutors all the time, but so far there's no agreement to bring these four americans home. let's speak to professor seyed mohammad marandi, whojoined the iranian delegation for the original vienna iran nuclear talks back in 2015. welcome to you, thank you for being with us live from tehran. what is behind these mixed messages? who is to be believed here, us and uk officials or iranian state tv? it here, us and uk officials or iranian state tv?— iranian state tv? it is my understanding _ iranian state tv? it is my understanding the - iranian state tv? it is my understanding the report| iranian state tv? it is my . understanding the report did not come from iranian television, it came from an arabic news channel and one of the iranian news channels, channel six i think it was, reported them as saying there was an agreement for the prisoner exchange where iranian prisoners bei

number one, ron klain, white house chief of staff is at the top.s obsessed with reducing any biden family scandal especially those involving hunter. so he has a lot on his plate. he's been working with biden for decades. he was chief counsel when biden led the senate jew judiciary committee and e ebola response coordinator under obama admitted obama administration did every possible thing wrong on the swine flu. klain is a lobbying king, his big tech connections from his lobbying days are endless. a major score for the biden administration. he was a part of the executive counsel of silicon valley's lobbying arm in washington. he's also lobbied for cnn's parent company alo time warner a venture capitalist, of course, until he came to the white house. dark money -- claims all over it and involved with groups like ther center for american progress to name a big one klain is a rank partisan. according to cnn, republicans were frustrated with klain during oval office meeting in february. where he was calling all of the shots not biden and shaking his he

here's white house chief of staff ron klain denying the reports.y, that report is untrue. there is no agreement to release these four americans. we are working very hard to get them released. we raise this with iran all the time but so far there is no agreement to bring these four americans home. joining me now is iran expert karim sadjadpour, who is a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. thank you for being with us. these claims of a prison prisoner release came from a iran state media traditionally controlled by hardliners. what is in it for them to send out these messages? i is in it for them to send out these messages?— is in it for them to send out these messages? i think at this oint, these messages? i think at this point. there _ these messages? i think at this point, there is _ these messages? i think at this point, there is diminishing - point, there is diminishing returns for iran to continue to hold onto these dual nationals. the challenge for the united states and britain is how do you get your citizens relea

administration officials on sunday here is ron klain and anthony blinken. one from cbs and the other on 60 minutes. >> children as young as 6 and 7 years old coming here with no adult who are sent on a dangerous journey. i don't think that's because of a speech joe biden gave. >> we inherited a totally broken system. broken intentionally and it takes time to fix it. and by the way, our message is very clear. don't come. the border is not open. you won't get in. >> bill: that's their message. it's donald trump that left them a mess and the president said that on nbc friday morning as well. >> you have to give them an a for message discipline and about a d minus for accuracy and authenticity. let's be honest, for the 2020 the message from the biden camp was the administration, the trump administration's tough on the border policy was all wrong. we needed a more humane and welcoming approach. stop building the wall and stop inhumane measures used along the border and this was exploited by a very sophisticated criminal enterprise, the cartels. they realize this

how ron klain the chief of staff is one of nearly 60 people in the biden administration with ties tohave more from washington >> it's no secret money and politics go hand in hand. watchdog groups are growing increasingly concerned with the influence dark money has on washington specifically the biden administration. dark money refers to donations made by groups that don't disclose who their donors are. then candidate biden vowed to fight their influence and end dark money all together. dozens of current white house staffers have ties to groups that rely on dark money to fund their operations including chief of staff ron klain who at one time no longer, served on the board of directors for the center of american progress. now republicans have also certainly benefited from groups relying on dark money contributions but opposition is growing to its use in politics. dozens of democratic senators want the treasury secretary to make financial contributions easier to track. they write in a letter last month we strongly urge you to reconsider the prior administration's decision and reinstate

>> what do you think, even ron klain to anderson said it's ooh stretch.nated with at least one dose. is it doable? >> it's doable. we mow the numbers are continuing the go down. how much can they go down and get to the goal they're setting out. you can decrease 9% week to week and possibly get to the goal. we'll see. we're seeing not only vaccine hesitancy but also vaccine fade, this idea, look, do i really need this. one nuanced point, when we think about herd or community immunity, it's based on two things. how much of the country has herd immun immunity. over the summertime, the contagiousness of the virus in the warmer and more humid conditions may be less so, so you could actually get the threshold for herd immunity more easy. the real question is, as you go into the fall and winter, when it becomes cooler and dryer, do you maintain the herd immunity. even if things look good, people still need to get vaccinated which is sometimes a hard sell. >> understood. sanjay, until a very short time ago, even a matter of weeks, the challenge was supply and acc

you just heard ron klain say the surge is not because of a speech that joe biden gave.ou say that is exactly one of the reasons. what is the biden administration missing in your opinion? >> that is either towering ignorance or willful deceit, you pick, but it is definitely their words that are causing mass migration. i often say i've never met an immigrant, and i've met a lot, i spend a lot of time in mexico interviewing immigrants, who didn't have a cell phone, who aren't listening. this is a situation where words can launch 10,000 ships and have done that. if the biden people would only interview the immigrants instead of like when kamala harris surrounded herself by experts, immigration experts, they would tell her that this is biden policies, biden promises, promises during the campaign started before he was even in office and once he was in office, his very first moves caused 10,000 ships to launch and now we're looking at actually 200,000. i'm sorry, but i talked to a mexican drug cartel smuggler last week, when i asked him why are you making so much money, he sai

as president biden's chief of staff, ron klain, said earlier, they don't view it as a good behavior.rtunity to confront putin on it. >> biden/putin summit in geneva, it is going to be very significant. thank you very much. >>> other news we are following including new polls showing popularity of the bizarre and dang dangerous qanon conspiracy theory among republicans. brian todd is working on this story. conspiracy theories resulted in violence. >> reporter: it has. what it means for the republican party and the future of american pol politics analysts say is nothing short of jarring. >> release the do you means. >> reporter: they have taken their illogical conspiracy theories to rallies. some of them showed up at the capitol on january 6th. new indication that qanon conspiracy theories making disturbing road. a quarter of republicans believed qanon's main point. 20% in red saying they agreed the government and a financial world of the u.s. are controlled by a group of satan worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation. >> it was definitely a staggering num

it turns out the president's chief of staff, ron klain, is one of several administration members withies to dark money groups and one of them is actually led by guess, former top aide to hillary clinton. mark meredith has the story. >> in politics can make all the difference. dark money has watchdog groups increasingly concerned. its impact inside the biden administration and when we talk about dark money we refer to donations made by groups that don't disclose who the donors are. web team finding several staffers have ties to organizations that rely on dark money including the chief of staff who at one time served on the board for the center for american progress. during the 2020 campaign, then candidate biden vowed to fight its influence and end dark money all together. here is what he had to say early when he was asked about the use of dark money. >> what are you going to do about dark money in politics in 500 words or less? [applause] >> president biden: number one, take none of it. number two, end it. >> democrats certainly are not the only ones benefiting from dark money. republ

that was the case from ron klain this morning. take a listen. >> i think what the public is saying that america is on the move again. these common sense measures to give people help with health care, to give people a tax cut is the action they want to see now. >> reporter: the president and vice president hitting the road again this week. the president spending some time tomorrow in southeast virginia. later in the week heading to a very deep red republican state of louisiana. that's a signal i think from the white house of how they feel what they're proposing as bipartisan appeal. that's the public sales job. i got new information from a white house official about what's happening behind the scenes as they try to work for a bipartisan path forward. it's 415 calls or meetings that have happened with law makers on capitol hill and their staffs. 24 senate and house staff level briefing that were either bipartisan or republicans only. then you have that jobs cabinet, the five cabinet secretaries, focused on selling the plans. they've

point of view that we don't begrudge people making money that were talking susan rice, jeffrey zion, ron klaining millions since leaving the obama administration coming back to the biden administration, what are your thoughts about that. >> i don't mind them making if they were adding value to their clients and investment funds, i just begrudge the fact that they want to make sure nobody else does, they want to make sure everybody else gets massive tax increase in american jobs and blue-collar jobs are sent overseas, it's one of the provisions of the bill that they're looking to push, basically the american taxpayers to american purchase of electric made batteries, they're made in china. they're here for the blue-collar american forces the byproducts from china, made in china creating jobs in china. liz: people out in the heartland, people in new york on the east and west coast they see people going to d.c. and coming out as billionaires and millionaires making money off of what they feel is a swamp, we never use that term on the show but that's accusation, people making tons of money off of t

take a listen to ron klain. >> incumbent presidents are judged on their record. president trump had a bad record in 2020. joe biden is hopefully assemblinging a powerful record to run on if he runs for re-election. >> so easier to run against him this tomb? time. >> i wouldn't want to underestimate him as an opponent if he chooses to run. >> the only thing with he can say for sure is that donald trump never reached 50% popularity during the presidency. he lost re-election. joe biden stands today in the average of polls at about 53%. net positive of 13 points. that is not a bad beginning. it's not an overwhelmingly dom dominant position but he's in sol you h solid shape so far. >> thank you. still to come, this hour, the fight against vaccine hesitancy. what we're learning about the people who are not yet willing to get a vaccine shot and why it's so challenging to reach them. . >> plus, liz cheney's constituents respond as her house leadership hangs in the balance. we'll speak live with a republi. then the winner of the kentucky derby now in doubt after failing a

. >> i talked to the chief of staff of the white house and the biden administration ron klain last night, i was pushing him on the decline in vaccinations. he said, it's a natural decline, that it's not surprising that obviously there's a lot of interest at first. and once those people, then it's the harder to reach people, the people who are skeptical about it and that they are, you know, going out to try to get to those people and get them to take the vaccine. and we've seen some states, you know, offering free beer or other incentives. do you buy that this is just an understandable decline, or do you think it's something more serious? >> well, i think it's both. i think the biden administration gets a lot of credit for building the infrastructure so quickly, getting the supply, increasing the disktribution. and at some point we're going to hit equilibrium where supply catches up to demand. we hit it so soon because the biden administration has done such a good job. but now the hard work begins. it's going to be hard. first there are individuals who may want to get the vaccine but whom

and his chief of staff ron klain explained a little bit of the thinking behind that earlier today.ort in the country, support from republican governors and republican mayors. i think what we have to see is whether or not republicans in washington join the rest of america in broadly supporting these common sense ideas to grow our economy and to make our families better. >> you have heard republicans express frustration with the price tag of this proposal, and some moderate democrats have also expressed skepticism about components of this plan. but the president has said that he is willing to negotiate with republicans. but one concern he has is that if they come with offering a fourth or a fifth of what he has proposed, he says that's a no go for him. but he is expected to host republicans here at the white house at some point to talk about that infrastructure proposal. pamela? >> okay, arlette saenz, live from the white house for us, thanks so much. >>> a brand new season of "united shades of america" starts tonight with a look at de-funding the police and what a substantial overha

david: i've also heard chief of staff ron klain has a lot of clout in the white house, so twhat do youl about a location. it's a really small place. you know, it's even smaller than it looks like on tv shows. so if you're working in the west wing, you see the president a couple of times a day, couple of times an hour. susan rice, former national security adviser, has one of the big offices inspect west wing of the white house. if she's going to meetings, lawrence -- i mean, edward, she's not going to say, oh, i'm not going to talk about that topic because i'm domestic affairs now. i think she probably has an undue apt of influence -- amount of influence in an administration where joe biden, i don't think anybody thinks he's fully in charge of the administration that he's running. edward: it's interesting, people are wondering about biden and the reason why he was speaking yesterday. he took two questions, and then he got lured back to the podium, and this is what he said. listen. .>> you guys are bad. i'm not supposed to be answering all these questions. i'm supposed to leave. edward:

the good cop in terms of negotiatings, in terms of working with republican senators and the staff, ron klainre watching the left wing of the party. we all knew that the rubber would meet the road at some point in these negotiatings. it's probably getting close to that. if they trim too much off of this, you'll hear progressive complaining about lowering prices on world broadband. so if they walk this line, but there's not, you know, much goodwill left on either side. >> what's interesting, too, is that president biden, in terms of just the plain rhetoric, is selling it almost similarly to how president biden sold a lot of the stuff. this is not about job. this is about american competitiveness. we have got to work together. that is something that everyone agrees on. it's sort of like across the board, the previous president was doing it as well. unfortunately when it comes to the numbers here, that's when the bipartisanship comes in. he likes to stress that he has relationships with people on the hill, goes way back with them but he keeps hitting dead ends. >> it's not just infrastructure bu

ron klain, the chief of staff for president biden, is, i mean, this is what he's spending most of hisere's just so much time in a day. number two is they have hired -- they have more boxes to check in terms of diversity and where some of these people worked in the past than the trump administration. so it's more of a vetting process. you know, you've got to make sure that you're putting someone in the treasury, that person didn't work with big oil, see what i'm saying? liz: yeah. or at the energy department and worked for big coal. what a con isn't. [laughter] great to see you, charlie. thank you very much. one of the biggest ceo gripes this earnings season is a clogged supply chain tangled by the pandemic. ed the's countdown closer, as we look at krispy kreme doughnuts, has some names he says should shine on as the chain irons out. closing bell ringing in 6 minutes, the dow challengerring up by -- charging up by 236 points. we're coming right back. we're coming right back. ♪♪ld ten-x it. - ten-x it? ten-x is the world's largest online commercial real estate exchange. you can close wi

insisted that he wants to try to work towards bipartisan support and the white house chief of staff ron klaine seen some progress when it comes to negotiations with republicans, and that the president's red line is simply inaction. take a listen. >> the proposals the president's put forward have broad support, they have broad support in the country, they have support from republican governors, republican mayors, i think what we have to see is whether or not republicans in washington join the rest of america in broadly supporting these common sense ideas to grow our economy and to make our families better. >> now, this past week the president took his pitch to georgia, and pennsylvania, and starting tomorrow they will have that road show once again, this coming week, the president and the first lady will be traveling to virginia tomorrow where they will visit a school, potentially touting that american families plan, that shows about $1.8 trillion in investments in child care, and community college as well as family leave. you'll see the vice president in wisconsin and rhode island later in th

we'll also see this week, as ron klain, white house chief of staff, said this morning, inviting more members of congress, more republicans as well, to the oval office. anita dunn, another senior white house official, saying this is a time for discussions and yes, this is a time for compromise. they see the possibility for bipartisan support, despite the fact that the earlier american rescue plan was voted on along party lines. >> thank you, mike, so much. >>> new revelations lead for calls for matt gaetz to be removed from the house judiciary committee following a scathing new article by "the daily beast" which published a letter reportedly written by gaetz's associate joel greenberg, the letter written to roger stone. the letter says that greenberg worked with stone to secure a president from then-president donald trump. nbc news has not obtained nor seen the letter. gaetz denies wrongdoing and has not been charged with anything at this point. let's go to nbc's amanda golden who is on capitol hill with the latest from there. what are you hearing on capitol hill, amanda? >> reporter:

white house chief of staff ron klain kept it simple and direct in trying to reach out to congressional leaders in an interview with axios on hbo last night. >> i don't think it's big government to fix the ten bridges in this country, the most economically significant. >> there are parts in the package that republicans are talking about when they say that. >> i'll let them speak for themselves. we're doing common sense reform. most of these republicans have given a speech about how we need to fix our bridges, roads, infrastructure. people give speeches all the time about how people should have affordable child care. it is basic, basic things that we're putting forward. and, again, i think they should have bipartisan support. >> but a party that lies about who won the presidential election will have no problem lying about who got the local bridge fixed after that republican member of congress votes against fixing the bridge. kevin mccarthy will vote against any form of the biden infrastructure bill and then take credit for what the bill does, which is what he has already done with the co

there are high happen levels of the team, ron klain, chris leven, i could keep naming names, who have conversations all day long with members on the hill and their staffs about what follow-up conversations they have, what is next in the process, where there is opportunity for agreement, where there are technical questions, those are happening all the time. but ultimately, there will continue to be conversations at the level of the president and members of republican leadership and republican committee chairs as well as with democratic leaders. reporter: there is a report about unaccompanied minors being held overnight -- being held overnight. one child was reportedly held for four days before being reunited with his family. at when you say those as possible should be held accountable, what would accountability look like? ms. psaki: reports of children being held in buses outside hhs that you referenced in dallas for extended periods of time are outrageous, and acceptable, and do not meet our standards of childcare. that is true for the president. it is true for the secretary of health

there's a saying in washington, never mistake a referendum for a mandate and i think that -- ron klainho i think is behind a lot of this big ambition, that he felt that obama just did not do enough and he didn't do it fast enough, that they want to get as much as they can, do as quickly as they can do it before they start to settle in but i don't think it's just this issue, i think the inflation issue is very real but the house republicans didn't lose a single incumbent last year and they've got really good recruiting this time around and they've got something to push up against, that is going to be -- one, histories on their side, president usually loses members of his own party during that first midterm and don't forget -- the whole issue of the cancel culture wokeness of the democratic party which you had party veterans like james carville warning the democrats you are actually heading for a real bruising in 2022 if you keep this up. >> chris: well, that's where we are going next. panel, we have to take a break here but up next, the debate over federal government involvement in publ

nearly $2 trillion into an economy hit hard by the pandemic, i asked, white house chief of staff ron klainmy overheating, causing inflation and he told me he was worried about leaving millions of american in financial ruin. that was the focus. i thought about that moment after today's shockingly bad jobs report. employers added only 266,000 jobs last month, far short of the 1 million or so jobs forecasters expected, far short of the 916,000 jobs added many march, although the march number has been revised down. as disappointing as april's jobs numbers are, we should be cautious about overinterpreting everything through this one report. there's a lot of reasons to think that data is crazily messy. here's the thing, people's lives are going to depend on the answer to this one question. does the american economy take off? are we going to get a kind of post covid boom? or, are we going to find ourselves, like after the financial crisis, after the virus is suppressed, in a place where businesses have shut down for good, a lot of people have left the workforce and can't get back in because they'

secretary dennis mcdonough to white house chief of staff ron klain who once served on the board for theogress action fund. as for the president's feelings on dark money, he told a crowd in 2019 he's against it. >> what are you going to do about dark money in politics? in 500 words or less. >> number one, take none of it number two, end it. >> the white house says it supports an election reform bill like hr-1 which supporters say could end dark money in politics. the controversial proposal has already passed the house but faces much tougher odds of passing in the senate. mean time 38 democratic senators are call on the irs to once again require interest groups and unions to report donors names and addresses to the government. those requirements were dropped last year under the trump administration. bret? >> bret: mark, thank you. up next, students being taught that america is evil and that white people are oppressors, patients not happy about it we will tell you where it's happening and what those parents are doing about it. ♪ >> these studies can help bring us together. they don't have

hundreds of calls between top white house officials, lawmakers, their staffs and the chief of staff ron klainf those lawmakers at the white house again, we are keeping an eye on shelly moore capito who has been having as she put it productive conversations with the white house. >> good point. definitely something to watch. the other thing that we got breaking this morning from julia ainsley and jacob soboroff and i know you've been following this as well, there are now plans for the biden administration to start reuniting some of those families that were separated by that zero tolerance policy under the trump administration. what do we know about how that's proceeding? >> reporter: when craig melvin interviewed the president last week and asked him why haven't we seen any of these family reunited, this task force, the president had focused on it. the president said i didn't think that was right. now we know he knew they had news to announce in the coming days. what the department of homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas announce sd there are four families that have been reunited, one

when you listen to ron klain's interview, who also sat down with mike allen, my colleague, klain givesrter, but plenty of space to still be open for a deal. they're not closing any doors, they want to be open. all the officials i talked to say they want to be open. the question is, when do they hit their turn? the general feeling is the end of this month around memorial day. that gives them a couple more weeks to negotiate, see if there's a pathway forward and then make a decision. >> all right, hans nichols, thank you very much for being here this morning. we really appreciate it. and of course, heading into this week, the white house and democrats looking at this infrastructure package while republicans are on their way to throwing liz cheney out of leadership. that vote set for wednesday. so some significant questions about what that says about the priorities of the republican party right now. thank you getting up way too early with us on this monday morning. don't go anywhere. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> every conversation with people you haven't seen since quarantine start

couldn't just ignore it completely, but they don't want to be distracted and you could see that in ron klainitter feed. he's still laser focused on covid and the economics. on israel, they have to -- they understand that there is a responsibility, the united states has a historic responsibility to get involved in that crisis. but they also know they have limited options and that the moment of fighting is not the best time for the united states to sort of throw its weight around. so they're trying to balance it carefully. they're engaged they say privately but not so much publicly. >> but clearly the engagement has ratcheted up over the weekend because of the push of progressives, like bernie sanders and ilhan omar and senator sanders writing this is an opportunity for the united states to change its approach. democrats seem to be very upset that the biden administration has effectively, in their view, the same policy that the trump administration had before it when it comes to the netanyahu -- >> yeah, you've seen a really divide within the democratic party about how to deal with this. it is

we have a shadow president in susan rice and no one -- edward: i have also herd chief of staff ron klainrked in the white house through three administrations, over a decade, here is what happens in the white house. at this time is all about location. it is a really small place. it is even smaller than it looks like on tv shows. if you're working in the west wing, you see the president a couple of times a day, a couple of times an hour. susan rice, former national security advisor, had one of the big offices in the west wing of the white house. now she is domestic counsel advisor f she is going to meetings, lawrence, edward, she will not oh, i will not talk about topic because i'm domestic affairs now. she is weighing in on everything. she has probably an undue amount of influence in an administration where joe biden, i don't think anybody thinks is is fully in charge of the administration he is running. edward: it is interesting, people are wondering about biden and the reason why speaking yesterday. so he took two questions yesterday. he got lured back to the podium. this is what he sai

. >> i talked to the chief of staff at the white house and the biden administration, ron klain, last, you know, i was pushing him on the decline in vaccinations. he said it -- it's a natural decline. that, it's not surprising that there -- you know, obviously, there is a lot of interest, at first. and once those people -- then, it's the harder-to-reach people or the people who are skeptical about it. and that, they are, you know, going out to try to get to those people. and -- and get them to take a vaccine. we have seen some states, you know, offering free beer. or other incentives. do you buy that this is just, sort of, an understandable decline? or do you think it's something more -- more serious? >> well, i think it's both. i think the biden administration gets a lot of credit for building the infrastructure, so quickly. getting the supply. increasing the distribution. and at some point, we were going to hit that equilibrium where the supply catches up to demand. we have hit it really soon, in part because the biden administration's done such a good job. but i do think that, now,

. >> dickerson: and ron klain joins us for a one-on-one. republicans are

i think that president biden and ron klain and others are going to understand how to consequence thisan be done on a bipartisan way become able to peel off some republicans and the most obvious is infrastructure. there's a lot you can compromise and not have to go big on an initial infrastructure bill. likewise, surprisingly, congressman clyburn and others have opened the way on police reform to have something that will have some republican support. i think biden needs to do that first, to show that he can actually do some things on a bipartisan basis. and that gives him the chance to go big when it comes to some of the family help things he wants to do for the middle class and working class families. and once he's passed an infrastructure bill, even if it's scaled back on a bipartisan way, i think that gives him some more runway room. >> ashley parker, i want to look at your piece, especially as it pertains to everything that's going on today. you would think that perhaps donald trump or the republicans could find a place responding to all of this. you're looking at president, former