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i guess we could compare him almost to kind of a a ron ron paul. yeah. libertarian type of of keeping the budget and nice and squeaky clean. good for him. so he's the one that's kind of pulling the plug on this. he sent a letter that got leaked. i don't know by who we don't know yet at this point, but the letter got leaked earlier this month in august. he sent a letter to the defense ministry, basically saying, we're pulling the plug on ukraine. i'm trying to balance the budget. you cannot take any more money from germany's coffers in 2025. you're going to have to look elsewhere and i suggest you and the g 7 go look in the frozen russian assets if you want to fund this war, but it ain't coming from inside the country. so this is going to be a huge change of the flow of weapons and of course aid overall. and to your point, what's going to happen? what else can they who gets selected here in november? what, what's the, who's going to keep funding it? well, yeah. and then looking at the situation and they're asking themselves, this looks like a lost c

flurry of phone calls in a wave of diploma cnn effort to try and limit the retaliatory response by a ron ron promising to attack israel for what it says is the of the attack, or as a killing of the how most political leader or that it blames for that death. and so as a result, what we see is the united states trying to limit the impact of that retaliation. so we've had these phone calls by the us president, but just the day before we had the us president speaking with the king of jordan, as we had over the weekend, the us secretary state anthony blank and speaking with not only the g 7 leaders, but also the leader of the u. k. crowds and also iraq. so what we have here is really a sort of a compound this effort by the united states. basically speaking with allies, given the fact that the united states has not have direct relations with iran speaking to his allies and do have relations with iran or in some cases do not. but and just looking for those channels to try and communicate to iran. do not attack or limit that attack, which i'm coming out of washington dc right now that you've just ho

i guess we could compare him almost to kind of a a ron ron paul. yeah. libertarian type of of keeping the budget and nice and squeaky clean. good for him. so he's the one that's kind of pulling the plug on this. he sent a letter that got wait, i don't know by who we don't know yet at this point, but the letter got leaked earlier this month in august. he sent a letter to the defense ministry, basically saying, we're pulling the plug on ukraine. i'm trying to balance the budget. you cannot take any more money from germany's coffers in 2025. you're going to have to look elsewhere and i suggest you and the g 7 go look in the frozen russian assets if you want to fund this war, but it aint coming from inside the country. so this is going to be a huge change of the flow of weapons and of course aid overall. and to your point, what's going to happen? what else can it, who gets elected here in november? what, what's the, who's going to keep funding it? well yeah, and then looking at the situation and they're asking themselves, this looks like a lost cause t

his name is ron ron, israel emmanuel rom is royal and manuel easy us and bassett, or to japan. but when it comes to serving either the us or japan, the clearly choose is neither which country does he defend his namesake. israel, here's what's happening. so japan is commemorating one of the most horrendous acts in history, the nuclear bombing. a matter of fact, during world war 2, but because protesters say that they would show up and interrupt the event protests, what israel is doing and gaza. the japanese officials chose to ask israel do not show up whether it's public event, so it wouldn't get out of hand. well apparently, that was enough for both and bassett, or emmanuel and a diplomat from the u. k. to say well of israel's not allowed to go, then we're not going to go either. that's weird and by the way, washer and bell originally also not invited but that's okay with the us. and that's okay with the british diplomats no complains there. here's what a japanese scholar, smart guy, it seems, thinks of all of this, of israel has actually no place invisible, then it is utterly

ron, do you agree with that — contrast. ron, do you agree with that assessment? - contrast. ron, do you agree with that assessment? joy would say it's a movement of joy for the democrats because they were about to lose this election with joe they were about to lose this election withjoe biden and i think they're breathing a massive sigh of relief that they were able to convince him to step aside and have kamala harris step in. we you are now 88 days before the election with the democrats are definitely in solidarity. they feel great. however, iwould have to say there is still a lot of time—in—on this nicoll—klokstad. what really is going to matter is what happens after labour day, especially what happens during and after that abc debate with two candidates on stage and we're going to finally hear at some point from kamala harris. we're going to hear unscripted words from her. we need more media interviews from here. with he need less teleprompter and that's what's galvanising everyone. she's talking in great sound bites at these rallies which are tremendous, they are tremendously attended. i'm not taking away from

which is intesting, california governor ron ron onegin, nixon couldn't win califoia but the more conservative ronald reagan did after becoming a republic and 64 and being elected in 66, reagan was the popular one to appear with for nixon but nixon didn't want to take him ahead on so california was the only primary nixon didn't figure because it would have forced the republicans to take sides and he tried not to do that against popular challengers . reagan and 68 i think probably liked newsom although we don't know and may not know for a long time, this is the arrangement with pres. biden. nixon's arrangement was that if nixon didn't have the nomination locked up by wisconsin then reagan was free to move in and challenge them so reagan had his redline that he had committed to, a quid pro quo with nixon and reagan never had a clause that redline because nixon was so dominant in the early primaries that by wisconsin he did have it locked up but this was largely where reagan sat and you think about it in a way the reason i say reagan is po the model for newsom is because what you don't want to do

ron bonjean. ron, i want to start with you and this focus on ivf that we saw from donald trump. what do you make of donald trump's statements saying that he wants either the government or insurance companies to provide coverage for ivf? i mean, wouldn't this possibly put him at odds with the more conservative wing and evangelicals in his party? yeah, no, it certainly would. but what this is all about, and this is what we're seeing from trump, and also harris is sort of the race to the middle. trump knows that he needs suburban women, independents to come his way. right now, harris is leading in the polls — narrowly. um, it's going to be a neck and neck race. and by talking about this type of issue in this way, he's signalling that he's willing to moderate his positions. now, where are the anti—abortion folks going to go? they're not likely going to vote for harris because she's pro—choice. so either they stay home or they go vote vote for donald trump. he's taking that risk. angelo, what do you think this leaves kamala harris and tim walz on this issue, specifically because they've really tried to nail down bothjd vance and donald trump as being anti—ivf, as being damaging to a woman's rights to to choose autonomy over her own body. do you think that this could then throw a wrench in that messaging? i agree with what my colleague said about this being now a race towards the middle and appealing to the wider public. but on this particular issue, we have a history and the democrats are trying to draw a contrast with donald trump. quite frankly, the history, the facts, the voting record speaks for itself. and so when you have candidates such as kamala harris and tim walz talking reproductive freedom, where the states currently are and the rollback of those reproductive rights — i think there's no comparison, there's no daylight between the two of them, in that there's one side that tries to restore roe and maintain reproductive freedoms, where the others are speaking from both sides of their mouth because they know they're in trouble. the polling shows it, and they're making a move towards the middle because they know that they have to. quite frankly, i don't know if voters will buy it, because the history of what they've fought for and what they've proposed actually shows different results. all right. well, the polls do show these two neck and neck right now. so, ronou think she would need to do to move the needle with, you know, the battleground states being such a focus? well, i mean, se really needs to really start talking about specifics regarding the economy, regarding the border, regarding issues that americans really care about. you know, one of the top those are those are the, i believe, the top two issues right now. um, you know, in the cnn interview, she was really light on specifics. i mean, asked what she was going to do on day one. she talked about doing an opportunity economy, not like a specific bill or a specific executive order. i think we're going to see a lot come out during the debate. i think americans are wanting to see kamala harris for who she is and notjust the scripted, you know, scripted person and, and getting, you know, the scene interview to me was rather a much more of a softball interview, in my opinion. i mean, she does have a voting record. my colleague just talked about donald trump and jd vance having to answerf

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ron vitiello. ron, thank you for taking time. the body cam footage is fascinating, and we often hear critics of the administration's border policies citing rachel morin's tragic death or laken riley or 12-year-old jocelyn jocelyn nungaray. but the numbers we saw late yesterday, cbp dropped the actual border encounter numbers for the month of july, and we can show them to you. they're quite low. you see 104,000 july encounters. the fiscal year to date is 1.925, you know, almost 32% million. -- the 2 million. we'll hit that soon enough. you look back at 2023 and 202232 which are under the biden-harris administration, more than 32 the million, 22.475 and -- 2 2.475, unprecedented numbers never hit. so, ronis this good news? should the administration be patted on the back for lower numbers now in july? or is there a larger story? >> absolutely not. we are still in the worst crisis on our southwest border of illegal migration, of terrorist encounter, of human trafficking, of cartel enrichment. we still have the worst crisis on our southwest border that we've ever seen. yeah, we might get to 2 million which the biden administration is lower than we've seen in their history so far, but there's still more than the border patrol agents and front-line people can do at our southwest border because we're still in record territory. and you're likely to pointout laken riley and rachel mayor run and -- morin and other victims. people who have come into the country, went to communities and towns mere us and did horrific things to our citizens. so there's still a crisis on the southwest border, and now that we're in the campaign, we can see there's a contrast between what's happened the last four yea

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ron brownstein. ron always great to see you. i want to backup for a second to the top of our program where we were talking about the trump campaign being hacked and start with that because this isn't the first time it's happened to a presidential campaign. obviously, we've been talking about 20:16. and of course, the government and and as kevin liptack was reporting, the biden administration trying to guard against any sort of interference in the lead up to the election. but it's concerning that this is happening again yeah look i think for foreign governments that want to interfere in us elections, they saw a pretty good return on investment in 2016. and the ability to sow chaos and, and enhanced division in the u.s. and so you've got to expect that from multiple directions. they will be back attempting to do this targeting both campaigns in all likelihood and probably promoting false voices on various kinds of social media. all with the goal of increasing division and just kind of sowing chaos. and it is just an unfortunate reality that i think that all actors and the political system are going to have to be prepared for hello and this is coming on the tail-end of what's been a very turbulent, not enjoyable three weeks for former president donald trump's campaign. >> we now have this new polling from the new york times and sienna college that the takes a look at it look it's still within the margin of error. this is still a very close race, but it does joe momentum yeah. first of all, i mean, if vice president harris wins those three states and all likelihood she is president, right those three states plus the omaha cd, we get her to exactly 270 electoral college votes. and by the way, also worth noting those three states have voted together in every election since 1992 they were part of the blue wall from 92 to 2012, and trump won all three. then all three move back to biden. all three have elected democratic governors and both 18 and 2022, when harris replaced biden one way of looking at the big questions were could she shore up where he was weak? and could she hold where he was strong and if you look at these polls, the answer to both is a qualified yes. she is doing better than biden was with black voters and young voters in all three states. although she's not back to the levels that democrats had in 2020 with them. she continues to gain among college educated white voters, not totally surprisingly, as we've talked about before, roe was not overturned until after the 20 election so democrats clearly i think have an opportunity to grow there but what maybe most important was that in these polls, at least she is maintaining the strengths that biden showed relative clinton important for biden winning all three of these states in 20 was the improved over hillary clinton in 2016, among working class white voters without a college education. and also older voters. and harris, right now is running in these polls at least better than biden did in 2020 among both groups, better than biden among working last, whites, better than biden among seniors. obviously those are target audiences for the republican cultural attacks on her as a san francisco liberal or weak on crime and immigration. but in his first introduction, you are not seeing some sort of inherent pullback from her and in fact, she is moving as i said, pass where biden was not only in this race, but even in 2020. >> and for so many americans, she is, she is undefined still, even though she's been vice president for years that you have a new piece in the atlantic. you talk about the unique position she's in to define herself to voters specifically at the dnc, which is coming up here next next in about a week. and you say, even he could learn from bill clinton's own speech back in 1992 well, she is probably less firmly defined than any nominee going into their convention in decades, you know, not since yogurt humphrey in 1968, have we had a nominee who was either not an incumbent president or had to run through primaries or basically a year-and-a-half or two years accumulating all the scars they come from that all the trials that come from that pollsters in both parties will tell you that the initial reception to harris has been very positive, but it is not very deep. >> i mean, the negatives that republicans want to attach to her are not really firmly bolted down at this point. and voters know relatively little about her career and particularly what she's been doing as vice president, which is often something like going into the witness protection program. so she isn't a position. >> i think similar to clinton in 1992, clinton came out of the primaries and 92 as you because of the democratic nominee, but battered by revelations of extra marital affairs and dodging the draft. and he used the period leading to the convention and the convention itself to basically describe reposition himself as a child of the middle-class who would defend the middle-class because he emerged from it. and in many ways, that is harris is opera tunity to connect the policy agenda that she is going to begin laying out more next week with her story as the daughter of immigrants, a multi-racial woman herself, who worked as they've been pointing out in ads, worked at mcdonald's and the summer to basically argue that her background equipped, sir, to champion and lead increasingly diverse multicultural, multiracial society. so in many ways she has the opportunity to clinton did in 1990 to just precisely because opinions on formed, by the way, if she can't lay down some of that armor at the convention, republicans are going to have, i think an enhanced opportunity to go after her post-convention because what we just said, the impressions of her, the canvas is relatively blank at this point, even though the initial response has been very positive. >> and we're looking live at her and governor tim walz arriving there in las vegas, meeting with local officials there as she gets ready for this rally and ron and as someone who has seen a lot in american politics i want to know what you think about these rallies that we're seeing. and just the size of them, and look there, there's been the talk that maybe this is just a sugar high, maybe this isn't going to go on. we are seeing some data that shows it moving her way. but just what does it say to you that she's filling up arenas? i mean, look, we're showing it right now. it's wild i think it's i think it's a couple of things. >> first of all, as we've talked about before, the political strategists, mike pod horrors are as calculated using data from one of the democratic targeting firms, catalyst if there are 93 million separate human beings who came out to vote against trump in 2016 and 2020 and against republican candidate or against republican candidates in 2018 and 2022, there is a large constituency in the country that is resistant to the vision of america that trump has put forward there, obviously he's a large constituency that is ver

ron brownstein. ron, thank you for being here as i just as i just said, the trump campaign believes that bump in the polls will quote, be an extended honeymoon phase how do you think this will translate when it comes to the long game here yeah, look, i think there are aspects of the momentum for harris that are real and irreversible. >> i mean, the fundraising has been incredible and i think we're going to just see eye-popping numbers of how many raised during convention week, maybe as soon as tomorrow on interior engagement is enormous. much, much stronger than under biden. the crowds 15 to 18,000 in august, you're probably looking at 50 to 75,000 person rallies and october, which we haven't seen since obama in 08. and all of that is valuable to her, but the task in the swing states, as you say, i mean, you know there are a closely divided country. there are only six or seven states that are truly at play and they are at play because they are basically divided 50, 50. so her challenge in those states is much more blocking and tackling maximizing turnout literally one or two votes per precinct. could decide this election in states like michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. so all of those inputs that i just mentioned will help her in that. but ultimately, the job is going to be the blocking and tackling address ec section before o on the ground in these closely divided swing-states and my next question has yielded answers across the spectrum of possibilities. >> well, this rfk junior endorsement, how do you think it could impact the election well, first thing you think is going to have a minimal impact, but to the extent it does have an impact, i would not be surprised if it ends up being a net negative slightly for trump. >> and here's why i say that rfk junior's support has contracted to where indeed it is likely that most of the remaining people who said they were for him will vote for trump. if in fact they vote at all. and i believe many of them will not vote at all, but that isn't really the only thing that's going on here by, by aligning with trump rfk trump is doubling down on some extreme arguments about vaccines, in particular, known as paid a lot of attention. certainly we have not in the media that democrats have not. but trump has been saying repeatedly, i'm going to look to say i get it exactly right. i will not give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate today from kindergarten, to college and obviously, the idea that rfk would have some role in public health in a trump administration will underline that pledge or threat depending on how you look at it. and i think that could cost him more in white-collar suburbs than anything he gains at the margin from f-k voters, 70% of all americans say they believe vaccine mandates in schools should remain in place. i am sure that number is higher among college educated white women. i think wrapping himself together with rfk razors, the threat level for those voters, there was a reason the wall street journal editorial page it wants trump to win wrote after the endorsement, pocket the endorsement, mr. trump. but then really don't be seen with this guy again you are at a piece for the atlantic this week talking about the focus on democrats, so-called blue wall. >> you coin that term in 2009 and now say it symbolizes pennsylvania, wisconsin. wisconsin michigan. now, what's the best strategy for harris with trump's campaign also pouring a lot of money into these states. how should harris be attacking the states yeah, first of all, the blue wall when i coined get to know nine referred to the 18 states that ultimately voted democratic in all six consecutive elections. from 1992 to 2012, which is the most states the party had won. that often since the formation of the modern party system in 18, 28, in 2016, trump famously knocked michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin out of the wall. and really when people talk about the blue wall, now, they usually are referring to those three states. it's kind of the bricks that were dislodged from the wall have kind of become the wall in the popular agitation. what these are states that have remained so important in american politics because they are so competitive, they are all closely divided and they tend to move in tandem. i was struck in doing the research for this story. i really wasn't aware of this all the way back to 1980. they have diverged once just once in the presidential elections ineteen 88 was the only time they split. and who they voted for and similarly, over the last 30 years, they have voted the same way for governor, even except for one election so, you know, for harris, the challenge there is to claw back some of the ground that biden had long among younger voters and non-white voters, black voters, particularly in detroit and milwaukee. and philadelphia. and also to max out among the voters i was just talking about, these are states where the democratic games among college educated white voters have really been important to their overall reassertion of control of them since 2016. but she also has to do one last thing in these states, which is hold on to the relative improvement that biden made in 2020 relative to clinton in 2016, among non-college and older wipes, those are bigger share of the electorate in these states and they are almost anywhere else and it is going to be critical for her. she doesn't exactly have to to match biden because i think she can add some votes on the college side that he didn't have, but she can't fall all the way back to clinton's levels in 2016. and honestly, paula, i think that is the critical battleground between now and november. how many non-college and older whites can trump peel away from harris in these three states, because if he can't, it's going to be very hard. for him to win. >> yeah, it's interesting you say that i was speaking with another pollster a few days ago on air and he said that the reason he thought trump might pull this out is because of that exact group of voters. now, i want to talk a little bit about abortion rights. it was a big part of the convention. trump is of course, now trying to distance himself from project 2025, saying that his administration would be great great for women and reproductive rights. is that going to be enough for him to win over enough suburban women voters know, i don't think so. >> i mean, you know, it's easy for us to forget that the dobbs decision only happened after the 2020 election. and however well, biden did among college-educated women in 2020 democrats in these three states. and we're talking about above all, which are probably going to decide this election again, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, the democratic gubernatorial candidates did better in 2022, post-dobbs than biden had done in 2020? i don't think biden maxed out the ceiling of where this this can go, especially given the other factors that i mentioned, like trump's opposition to vaccine mandates in public schools that will be accentuated by associating with rfk jr. so i think there's every possibility and even likelihood that in these states biden excuse me, harris will run better than biden did among college white women, shapiro in pennsylvania and 22 whitmer in michigan in 22, they both ran ten points better among those college white women than biden had done just two years earlier. i'm not sure. >> harris can get all the way up to where they got, which is about 70%. but i would not be shocked if she's in the mid 60s among those voters in these, in these states it's, and again, that is going to be critical for her to offset any loss among those working class whites who are going to be the principal focus, i think for trump's advertising, arguing that harris is soft on crime and the border and not going to keep you safe and not going to deal with, deal with inflation or the states, there are a lot of moving parts there are crosscurrents. they are usually end up close and they heard very likely to be the tipping point once again, in 2024. >> let's three states and all the others who will be watching for the next ten weeks ron. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me and still ahead. >> high-level ceasefire talks are happening today in cairo. this as the idf says, it remains prepared for any retaliatory attacks from iran or hezbollah will talk with israeli ambassador to the united nations ahead plus an eight day stay in space turns into an eight month stay to nasa astronauts will remain aboard the space station after issues with their boeing spacecraft will talk about it live with the one and only bill nye, the science guy, you are in the cnn newsroom the polls for have i got news for you were pretty odd yeah. what are the kinds we could run out the news before then would never happen if i got news for you. the mere saturday, september 14 at nine on cnn and streaming next day on my rsp can severe it really affects the lungs and 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ron klain. >> ron. good morning. i'm so grateful to have you on the show. i interesting to hear how his cadence seemed to echo john kennedy, john kennedy is a cadence. then we've obviously seen him evolve on the stage. i was just hoping to start with your reflections on tonight because ultimately this is going to be about president biden's legacy. clearly, there are some hard feelings about how this all played out, but kamala harris winning this election would make a huge difference to biden's legacy in the long term? no well, yeah, i think it goes way beyond his legacy. >> look, the president and the vice prison work together very hard. these four years to bring the country back from the pandemic to get our economy growing again, to fight climate change, to address problems here at home and around the world. they've made a lot of progress, but there's a lot of work left to do. and the president's side person to lead that work as vice president harris and her running mate, governor walz and you're hear him tonight. not so much. talk about his legacy. we're talking about the future. what america can be under harris, walz and his enthusiasm about our futures a country is optimism about the kind of country we can be if we choose wisely in november, he's very enthusiastic cargo tonight, i've talked to him last night, is very enthusiastic about enthusiastic what she has to make the case for the path forward for these next four years under vice president harris and governor walz what else, can you tell us, ronout what to expect if you've spoken to him recently. i know one thing we've reported here is that he's going to focus on the threat to democracy that donald trump represents. that's clearly something that's been personally animating for him, even if it's kind of a darker way of looking at it. and perhaps kamala harris has presented in her run well i, think he will talk about the challenge we face as democracy right now here at home and around the world. and it's been a signature of his presidency, signature why he ran for president in 2020, why he won and why we did so well in the midterms in 2022. and it'll make their case against dei, as he said, we dressed the country from the oval office office when he announced his departure from the race, democracy is on the line this year, and the vice president harris is right person to save our democracy here at home. and around the world and make our country a better place. and he's very excited about it. i think democrats are very enthusiast

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ron and mid rising regional tensions there. ron has also helped folks with several of the of arab neighbors, rather including egypt, a mom and kata the us and its allies in the region, not loving how to prevent the water escalation of the conflict following wednesdays, assassination of from us political chief is now on the entire wrong. is there any shelling as strikes? targeted spots of southern lebanon on sunday. came off to the new and back to his beloved militants. fly dozens of truck goods towards not on his right. then but intercepted maybe not just sending, sending the state of israel is in a multi front war against the rods axis of evil. we hit each of its arms hard and we are prepared for any scenario, both in defense and attack. i repeat to our enemies, we will respond and exact a heavy price for any active aggression performed against us from any frontal. don edwards, these the lights have vowed revenge against is right off to the target. the cooling stuff is but allow me to, to come on to the lodge to come in bedroom then from us monday because it's my honey. instead on diplomatic effort side under the to de escalate tensions across the region. jordan, stop diploma mid of their visit to eat on. it's frankly defender and washington says it's preparing to help. defend is right. it appears the presence. so been very, very consistent about proving not just with words, but with the action that we're going to stand up and defend israel. i mean, on april 13th, when ron launched, 300 missiles and drones united states had the aircraft fighter planes in the air to knock them down. we've now added now additional naval and air assets to the region to, to help defend digital. again, i think we proven time and time again that we're going to support it as blind is right and have polluted $511.00 on board to says the guys on board began. but it concerns the cross border if i could put them in a loud board image or the still escalation of the conflict. britton's 5 minutes that has about to bring 5 right rises to justice after a week into violence targeting immigrants in muslim communities. the rest was fueled by false rumors about the background of a teenager accused of killing 3 children in the north of tac last week. they've been called britain's west riots and over decade preachers police are overwhelmed by a mob on the attack in the town of rocha him a target, a hotel housing asylum seekers. the message was clear, the empty my good rights of tons of towns

ron klain. thank you very much for joining us, erin, back to you. >> all right. well, if bakari interesting watching wolf and ron klain speaker, there's a lot of, you know, sort of interesting moments. >> but obviously when wolf asked ron klain about the relationship between joe biden and nancy pelosi? but it was a. moment of. silence there. >> and then ron responded important is nancy pelosi and all of this. >> now as we get ready to hear her speak especially in terms of her relationship with kamala harris and where she i mean, she played a crucial role in why we are sitting here tonight in this conversation. but where is she now i think nancy pelosi has the respect of everyone in this building all electric democrats would probably tell you and others that she's probably the greatest speaker that we've ever had in the history of this country but what are party is grappling with, right? >> is that we are turning the page. it's a new generation of leadership. kamala harris represents archer away from some of those older figureheads of the party and by no means am i saying we're kicking nancy to the curb or anything of the sort but what we're showing now is with people well light gretchen whitmer with people like josh sh

ron's and boss that are to the not the patients. there's a jabari reporting from the ron you in a capital letter, ron? thank you. i mean, while your secretary state anthony lincoln has called for a de escalation in the region to have a enter the conflict uh in, in garza uh to produce. com and the north between israel and 11 on and then to work on water monitoring, peace and security. but you know, starts with a ceasefire and to get there. and also 1st requires all parties to talk to stopped taking any escal tory actions. it also requires them to find reasons to come to me not to look for reasons to delay or say no to the women 15 palestinian prisoners have been released after being held by the israelis. they arrived at alex a hospital in the central gaza strip. they were freed at a military check point. east of there's been a last week. the is really army released 11 palestinian prisoners. many have since spoken of abuse and torture while they were detained and are having some wood. isn't there a bella in the central la garza? what more have you learned about this the yes well within the. * hour or so i knew abou

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me and i'm sure millions of other people flashbacks to the disastrous rollout of the ron desantis, remember the ron desantis campaign in the republican primary? he was the darling of the tech pros. he flamed out in the trump campaign made fun both of musk and twitter and desantis for that debacle. you would think that donald trump would not have wanted to repeat that debacle. i don't know, maybe he's not superstitious man, but this -- this doesn't look good, i would say for a campaign that's trying to retool and relaunch its message. as i understand it, they have been talking to each other for something like two hours already, and to me, it reinforces what i longer leave which is that donald trump is the very best possible campaigner for the democratic ticket this year. >> rambling man. he might be able to make that his campaign song. teddy, what your take especially on the tech glitch? >> no one wants to start such a highly scrutinized technical event 40 minutes late. look, the trump campaign, they had an opportunity to talk to musk's fans for hours. he does have a cultural command of lots of youn

ron? bye to defend the people of gaza. so did city ron does not strike this vending machine? it's going to only get worse. so methane, yahoo will become, will become more aggressive. but i think the, the, the reality is that this ring is on this one, the region has already lost what they've lost on the board or what's happening on the boss and gaza. oh, they're tearing out genocide. but even that is hurting this way. the regime more than anyone else in the world that's the regime is despise across the global south, even in the west, despite the western media and despite governments of despite the but diplomats are trying to do right, people are turning against the reaching and so the, the longer the world war less and the more the escalade it's, it's worse for us. well it may be beneficial for an yahoo, but it doesn't beneficial, but no one wants the escalation. but at the same time the regime passed a stop. i don't even know the janice of my yes. yeah. and babe ruth um what, what do you make of what happened on the timing of this assassination and also where it took place into ron a good afternoon. i think the timing, most of the timing and the location are a significant escalation and the complex that's already aflame. the fact that my n e l was skilled and thought on and now we're understanding it was have the presidential palace. um the story we're hearing is that he was killed with a miss time that directly talking to him. so they knew exactly which room he was in . so that tells you the number of things. one is the stuff in the p, a breach in the security, a significant breach in the security. the messaging to uh, to have run into a allies. the different outlines around the role is we can get you anywhere. but it's also a says, you know, there's no ceasefire at the end of the day sign any of was the key person who was negotiating uh, the zip code and all of those the cx, 5 with israel, and ga, so and by taking him out. so they effectively said no to the deed in a way. so now what do you think this actually hans, for the cease fire? the question is, will th

ron. something that the administration officials are working on over the weekend to make sure that there is no escalation in the region to very quickly. he says, the us is sending a message to a ron right now. do not do such a thing, don't we need it? the consequences for ron would be cataclysmic. and if ron should do something like that, they are prepared for all contingencies. because okay, that's really interesting. everything you've just brought to so that, so the us signaling very clearly that iran could scupper a deal. that's number one that i think or here is need to remember. and i want to drill down on something. you said, kimberly, i want to make sure i'm understanding this. you're saying for the 1st time the us has put forward a proposal for all the things that amazon is real, didn't agree on meeting that previously. there were areas of disagreement which like nobody knew how we were bridging that gap. now the us to said this is how you bridge the gap as i understand it, that's where we are. but we don't yet have an answer from him. austin is real. that yeah, we were okay to take that box. we agree with this bridging proposal what i think is, is that the, the, the proposal was already there, okay. but they, they have agreed on the terms of that

it's not just about it's not it changes who kennedy is, as well as who trump is and i think ron, i got it, ron, i've got to get out in 20 seconds. >> you take the final comment. go ahead. >> donald trump is wrapping himself further in kind of fringe views that will further alienate the white-collar suburbs that are harris his best chance of winning. and that's showed in 2022, despite broad economic discontent that they were able to tip the states michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin that are gonna decide the election gentlemen, i appreciate both of you. >> thank you for being here. what are your thoughts? hit me up on social media. i'll read some throughout the course of the program from the world of x if a race in a state is decided by less than 75,000 votes, that a 5% margin is huge. if that margin breaks for trump at 65% as predicted, come on. this is like an sat question that he just gave trump the race that's why he only took himself off in certain states and not others. the strategy is genius. there was nuance i don't even know how to say your name or i repeat it. there was nuance in the wa

well, like do something else, because he actually met the guys, well, like with ron, it seems to me, because of meeting ronyes, it turns out that he chose his destiny, which it would seem, yes, he chose himself, that is, it turns out we can, well, this topic, for example, if you take the matrix, there is also such a story that when the first time neo comes to pif , she tells him that no, you are not the chosen one, and then it turns out that... this was his path, that he needed to say so, so that he would reject how, to remove the weight, so that you would believe in your strength much more, that is , without pressure you can achieve much more than with pressure. this seems to me to be a point, you too, well, it is clear that your fate was determined quite early, you went to study to be an artist at a very young age, yes , class, accordingly you were 15, well, yes, what is it, but nothing will stop me at some point from changing the flight path, if i understand that i like this path much less and it doesn’t bring me any pleasure, that’s actually why i went to gites. to the producer, yeah, faculty, i hope i

well, i think the parties he has in mind when he says that our ron and his ball, because both the ron and his ball and about retaliation against israel force barely stripes on their territory. but they have so far held off. now in my view, they have held off in large part because they may not want to fight a war with israel. they may worry that they would lose or they will be severely damaged in a, in a world with israel. but they've promised essentially this retaliation, and so they may be looking for a pretext to avoid it. i suspect that if there is a ceasefire agreement that both iran and his ball, i may take the opportunity to claim credit for it and move on. and i think that's what's accurate blinking, so blinking something they'll do. michael thing they have the washington institute for near is policy in washington dc. thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us. thank you. is inside gaza palestinians have low expectations. so blinking diplomatic push, it really comes, was it to israel will not change anything. every time we hit it will. but it turns out that there ar

ron bonnie, that i'm not modeling oliver. ron rom is a god. body stands for the monkey guard. the monkey room is an especially powerful god to run by the is 73 years old. he spent his whole life in, but honestly he tells me that he owes all his energy and health to the ganges. come pick up here. you sometimes drink the water as well. me. he thought, oh, yes, of course. yes dick know, even now this one. now he's drinking the water. is the water divided under his water? you are totally water. what do you like? the studies have shown how polluted the ganges can be, and around us the water is so toxic that fish can barely survive. you though, the science seems to play are less important role than face the i'm you know, got a person must have based in the ganges at least 3 times, like the tended. once off the bus, i'll be coming. park big about the 2nd time, the 2nd time off to the wedding. it's just the time after data is the date, the jess is ever present on the ganges sometimes even with corpses floating in the water, the would you like that to me? i don't know, but i do problems and things like that done with both to me and to chicago. just keep growing. i do believe that it's just a body. the soul has long since left it towards the middle. go after we die here, your bottle that snapped is unlikely phone to you. i money, i get the money but it isn't surprisingly silver thorn. for me i find it hard to separate the body from the essence of the deceased. i visit the place where most bodies are cremated, environment see the money kind of got the smoke, the smell, and what i see, overwhelms me. the gas is visible everywhere. the there's no attempt to hide the burning bodies organs or charged limbs. the for this man, it's all part of everyday life. cremating corpses is patrick cozy, chilled harvey's job. the a. status has been moved. i get a new put but my 33 years old now side when we 1st came here aged about 13, they cut the lead today. barnes may be 4 or 5 corpse as a year upon me body. i later it became more of them. they watched the dad and the guns you saw, you know, they looked very different tier back then, you know who not one of the simple did, but they're not. but i basically work all the time in the go. and if i don't do the job, who will let me take care of everything points of job money at the job and they did die knowing what otherwise job money and then they job related that it must be tough. the jacuzzi is a member of the dom cast, one of the lowest in indian society, the earns about 2 and a half euros for a fire. it takes about 3 hours to burn the body. the calendar again, i do see that i froze. it's all routine and oh cool. no, it's normal for you. go out there high, we have your habits. yes, i'm used to, but we would, we still treat the dentist, you wouldn't being some, one of them would even talk to them and kind of name a we did. what do you the, the date, patrick goes, he explains to me on to be buried with dignity. during breaks. he gets into the ganges where the ashes of the distinct star scattered the here he looks for valuables. sometimes he gets lucky as he has now finding a chain. sure. in the murky, polluted water, you can barely see where he is stepping. the i can put myself in this glass here. best to throw it away. but it's hard for me to comprehend the conditions. patrick cozy has to work under and i haven't mence respect for what he does. the i wonder if he would prefer another job. nicholson to allow me that will. of course, we'd like to follow another profession to work here means a lot to me though my god gave me the opportunity of a new job and i would take it. otherwise i'll stay here and see why minute because he has 3 children. it's his wish for them not to have to one day work here at the money kind of car got i'll meet him again in a few days. then he'll tell me, use plans to create a better future for them. the at 6 am, i receive a message from the hospice. they wanted me to come as quickly as possible. so gone and looked about one has been empty. i guess i'm just out of here, we just received a call from the owner saying that a person arrived last night from the admins. he wants to die right here in foot on a seat, not enough to stay on the on deadlines besides, they've asked if we want to come and talk to the family. so we're on our way there now, you know, until the end of the make up in the i have great respect for the chance to meet a dying person and their family. the some 20 family members are taking care of the elderly man. i am suddenly uncertain if we should even be here. we are doing a movie about the best in that and i see and then is it okay if we talk to you, if you like, look how you would deal with a one situation? is that okay for your help with today? i'm a, i found a problem at all about the speed we're happy to share with people who may be don't know much about our religion and show them how we approach this difficult situation . the problem that i learned that the sick man is his father in law. his name is shree, low connect to body. he's 82 years old and can only breeze with the help of a ventilator multi. he can't see anymore. everything is doc my brother, this person, place it on for us very with the he is really in a critical condition package that we can pull family quotes. are you happy that you are human, but honestly not see me here. not a very happy look very, very happy you called your peace last thing is always with us because of the simple fact that low, but we thank you for talking to us in this difficult time. i am here, you know, you came to us and the answer to that is really kind of you really kind of feel like this so much the, the service is so far. this has been for me the most extreme situation. we have sound he's the media and the this family, naturally concerned for a family member who's about to die has done the less welcoming us into their circle . out of the bias shabby on dealing slips in the in, in kind of wants to show us how their culture works and how they deal with death. give the quote to us on send me an amazing with them toward indian the i ask one of his son to set tundra to body why it was important enough for the whole family to travel to about honestly young. take you to live with daddy guides of somebody except the day when my father ties i them, i want to install a happy, you know, i want to have a family to be that jammed up until now. he's been stuck in the attendance cycle every but the pacific dining here in toronto. so you should find me frank, that's totally cool. be guy put a not me to ask you to going to go to when my mother was about to die of health. very, very sad. i feel like you people are sad, but also happy at the same time. is that right? i seen the ripped and it would sell it as soon as i was gonna make sense. got them on. i definitely do see on my s death as a celebration for us. it's one of the most important rituals like about a marriage. we celebrate that is or leave so much behind you. so much pain open to the can him do is got it. talk about let being 8400000 different life forms to be on my on the phone as a human is to be blessed by golf. children off the left only as a human. can you a chief salvation be done with the product? the son just knew betterment the sort of the same model that if you missed the chart because you have to go through the entire cycle again because that i'll probably do little with that. i don't, but not in that you. when did you decide that he would come here to about and see, and how did you organize that? the whole family. and as i go to ask him the next question, it suddenly goes dark. and it's got to stay among his kind of slaves, a power outage here, which of course, isn't terrible because the ventilator for his father has now stopped in stands for the 1st time the room grows restless. it seems as if death is become more real, more tangible for the family. the i suspect the family would prefer to be alone for the time being the on the banks of the ganges. i need the seller, ron miasca, whose family is lived in. but on a see for 7 generations the g was so close to me, monday, kindly. ca, gods. and what kind of people do you need? 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ron ensana, stef and ron are cnbc contributors. great to have everybody with us. steph, the first crack at this. trade unwind, recession fears, berkshire selling half of its apple, all of the above? what's the root of today? >> i think 80% is the carry trade unwind. a lot of uncertainty. we've been talking about we thought volatility would increase because there are so many things unknown and it is the economy and the fed. are they behind the curve. it is the politics which we haven't really talked about recently, right. then the speed of the bond market yields. it's been -- the velocity has been extreme in my mind and definitely worrisome. now, put that all together and where are we on the economy? at the end of the day fundamentals are going to win. they may not win out today, may not win out in the next week or two or two months since we're seasonally in the weakest part of the year, but what i would say is, the economy is still growing above trend, 2, 2.5%, atlanta fed tracker is at 2.5%, we know that inflation is coming down and 2.5% around that's good. earnings growing 10%. in my mind i think is it a soft landing? maybe it's a bumpy landing. i don't know. but i'm looking at companies that we are in the thick of reporting season and we're listening to what companies are talking about and fundamentals are good. >> i tend to think this is a draw down within a decent environment, talking about what steph is, as distinct from the start of something more serious and lasting what's your take on what we're witnessing today? >> the percentage cause whether it's the carry trade or whatever might be, to me this is a silly conversation. to inme it's the carry trade sty from japan. how many people have come on the network and overlay the chart of the qs and the yen over the last couple weeks. this should be a shock. is the fed behind the curve? maybe. solis, we're a hedge fund, we don't put out macro economic for examples. after this morning's conversation, convincingly we don't think there should be an intermeeting cut. to steph's point, the ism number this morning was important and you knew that before hand. if this was weaker than expected it would corroborate some of the worst fears. service jobs, 85%, service sector a larger portion and the number was pretty good across the board. you have to take sol lis from tt important >> ron, you went on a tweet storm, arguing that the fed is behind the curve and that they need to act and act now. >> well, i think they should say something now. i don't think like jeremy siegel suggested, you need a 75 basis points intermeeting cut. the fed should provide reassurance to the market. the nikkei crashed, down 20%, gone from 161 to 142 in matter of a month and that has created this disruption in financial markets that type of which i would analogize to 1997, 1998 where there's a crisis of sorts going on within markets that fed should probably step out and assuage some fears and cut in september because i do think they're behind the curve. >> didn't they do that this past wednesday? it's only monday. jay powell last wednesday basically set the table for cuts coming in september. called what's happening in the labor market a normalization. here we are saying they need to come out and say something again? >> i would say in the wake of what's transpired over the last 48 hours in f

my name is ron bonnie, that i'm not modeling oliver. ron rom is a gaunt body stands for the monkey guard. the monkey room is an especially powerful god. the drum, by the is 73 years old. he spent his whole life in, but honestly he tells me that he owes all his energy and health to the ganges. come pick up here and you sometimes drink the water as well. me. he thought, oh, yes, of course. yes, dick know, even now this one department, now he's drinking the water. is the water divided boundaries? water you are only water. what do you like? the studies have shown how polluted the ganges can be in around us. the water is so toxic that fish can barely survive here though the science seems to play a less important role than face the i'm you know, got a person must have based in the ganges at least 3 times like the kindred. once off the bus, i'll be coming for the 2nd day of the 2nd time off to the wedding. it's just the time after death. as the gates, the jess is ever present on the ganges. sometimes even with corpses floating in the water, the go

ron on wednesday. a mouse and a ron has both said they will be consequences for the assassination. the content mccrae, this is ellen. just here in line from how we begin with the funeral for him, us political leda is miles honey, a in comp time just to dies off to his assassination of final service. and prayer is due to get underway in the coming hours and motors have sounded to arrive at the amount of the while have most skins. uh huh. representatives from across the middle east and the white origin expected to attend. i mean, it was assessing nice it into ron on wednesday. i'll just say it was russell. so to joins us now from the funeral at the most, which is being held here in the midst. so can you just talk us through exactly what is going to happen over the next few hours there? well the funeral pay year off the how am i supposed to go? the chief was this estimate that this might have here is going to take place shortly in mohammed been up and we'll have mosque right behind me. this is the central mosque in, in the high and is one of the most historic one source is the more it looks like we're just having some technical difficulties hearing it from russell sort of there. but we will come back to him later in the program. and we're going to get some oh, it seems like we have got rental so the bank will get back to you. right. so can you just uh, pick up where you left off the steel people are keeping them arriving here. the temperatures are sorting. so particularly when you are getting close to the pay of time, now actually the pay recor

ron --host: ron, independent line. caller: it's nice to talk to you, i like the way you talk. i'm looking at the bible for the republican party, 2025, heritage , that's the basis it seems for them moving forward, to change and have a complete reconstruction of the country in terms of the constitution. number two, what do you think -- where do you think women will make an impact in voting this year? i think it's time we get a female in their who has the ability, like harris, and i'm not necessarily leaning towards her, i'm just looking at her platform, but at this point in time i think it's time that we begin to get the male out of the political system and let women begin to use some of their knowledge to run this country. the last thing is -- do polls really justify voting in the direction of a lot of people, including democrats and republicans? if you could address those three things, i would appreciate it. thank you. guest: to go in order, you mentioned project 2025, a pretty conservative blueprint the heritage foundation put together. obviously, the trump campaign sees it as a liability. they have tried to distance themselves from specific proposals. frankly, taking vance as a running mate, he is kind of close to the world of heritage and all of that. so, if they want to distance themselves from that, vance may not have been a great choice in terms of doing that. but that document really plays very much into the whole democratic campaign against the republican ticket. as for women voters, generally speaking, the electorate in any given state has slightly more women than men. there are actuarial table reasons as to why that's the case. there are a few exceptions like maybe north dakota or alaska, where you have got like a lot of younger men going into those states to work in resource extraction kinds of jobs, but generally there will be slightly more women than men in those states, slightly bigger gender gap that would exist even if the republican nominee was a woman and the democratic nominee was a man or the reverse, you can see this in other races. women are generally more left-leaning on the issues. again, certainly not all women, but on average men are more conservative and more republican leaning. there has been this gender gap in american politics that has been present for several decades now and i don't think it is going anywhere. as for the polling question, you know, i think it's kind of -- we get asked this about polls all the time. i think it's kind of amazing that polls do as well as they do in terms of measuring voter sentiment because it is such a difficult task to get a representative sample, particularly if you are calling people on the phone, you have to make tens of thousands of calls to get the kind of sample that you want. and again don't expect polls to be perfect, it's not a fair standard but they generally give us a good sense of what's going on. polls were important in this monumental change of an election with joe biden leaving the race and kamala harris coming in, because without polls showing the dire position of the president, it would have been much harder for democrats to make that argument for him to leave. i got in, right call or wrong call, the polls were very much a part of it. host: to that point, leon in new jersey is asking about your track record in predictions. guest: myself, i've been at this since 2012. we did really well in 2012 and 2000 20. not so hot in 2016. not uncommon for people in my position. down ballot we have done good, though the house has been a real challenge. the republicans did better than expected in 2000 20. democrats did better than expected in 2022. you know, we have our hits and misses like anyone else. host: all right, that is jeffrey bloodworth at -- that is kyle kondik from the university of virginia center for politics and the author of the book "the long red thread." thank you for joining us. guest: thank you. host: more of your calls after the break open for form. numbers are republican, (202) 748-8001, democrat, (202) 748-8000, and independents, (202) 748-8002. later in the program we will be talking about the role of rural and rustbelt voters this campaign cycle with professor jeffrey bloodworth. >> saturday, american history tv feature notable convention speeches. watch notable remarks from nominees and other speakers over the past decades. barack obama gives a keynote speech supporting john kerry for president at the 2004 democratic convention. >> this year, this election, we are going to reaffirm our values and commitments, see how we are measuring up to the legacy of our forebears. fellow americans, democrats, republicans, independents, tonight we have more work to do. >> mitt romney speaks to the 2008 delegates after the strong showing of john mccain. >> we strengthen our people and the economy when we preserve and promote opportunity. opportunity is what let's hope become reality. opportunity expands when there is 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ray. andrea, texas, independent. caller: hello, texas. thank you, thank you for taking my call. i wanted to address the individual about religion, talking about abortion and things like that. i wanted to remind him that even god gives us all freedom of choice. i think it's ironic that these men think that it's ok to tell women how and what to do with our bodies. then i also wanted to say that it's really frustrating to hear a lot of these callers that is not educated. i think it's just like when you come in to be a citizen, we should have some sort of litmus test for individuals who want to vote. that way people would know who the person or who is involved with i guess how much power the president can have as opposed to people who run for these offices so that they don't be blaming individuals who don't have no power over things that they want to blame for. all right. brenda is in manito act, wisconsin. republican. caller: yes, i just want to -- i hope you can inform the public that project 2025 is a think tank paper. it's not the republican platform, it's not trumps platform. when you encourage people to look it up and read it, you are giving the impression that this is a republican written paper by the republican written paper by the republican party at this time. and that it is trump's paper, which it is not. i would encourage that when people call in, if you say please read project 2020 five, this is a democratic talking point. thank you. host: homer, shreveport, louisiana, democrat. caller: i'm a vietnam era veteran and i wanted to say that i think it's about time for the women to really take the show from these old white men that have messed it up long enough. so, i think it is time for the ladies, to give them a shot. the country is in disarray. appreciate you. later. host: all right, we are in open forum for the next 20 minutes. republicans, (202) 748-8001. the democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. vincent, you are next. gaithersburg. caller: i was hoping we could go back, miss mimi, look up there was a lady who called. i'm a disabled veteran. she said that vice president jd vance did not serve. she said she got that information out of c-span, out of your archives and all of them. i look -- i don't look at your archives anymore -- caller: she said he didn't serve in combat, that he was a public affairs officer. he absolutely served in the military. caller: no, no, he served in combat. that's a small issue. it's not a small issue. host: i understand the difference in semantics. he was deployed to a war zone, but i think her point was that he wasn't in an active shooting situation. but he absolutely deployed to a war zone. caller: may i'll say -- you all do this -- host: go ahead, i just wanted to clarify. caller: no, you did not clarify, you confused. still on the democratic pup talking point that this man did not serve. you still got your wrong point across. i've been watching c-span for a very long time. host: ok, go ahead and make the point you want to make. caller: and you are doing the same thing, trying to derail, trying to not let me -- host: paul, democratic line. caller: when president trump was running on his first term, there was a thing that we called unemployability at the v.a. and at that time they were going to cancel that, which a lot of veterans are disabled and cannot work, not 100%. it allows them to draw a retirement pension. however, most of them are seniors. what happened was the votes came in they were not able to do it. can you talk more about social security and the v.a. benefits in terms of retirement? thank you. host: anne, waynesboro, pennsylvania, republican. good morning. caller: i have one question. been watching. lately i haven't been much into the politics but in the last three years i have not seen or heard of camille a harris doing anything. what has she done since she has been vice president? host: ok. kate, michigan, independent. good morning. caller: i just would like to talk about a story i saw yesterday about project 2025 on "democracy now!" it was interesting. their work training videos that went along with us. one thing people need to realize when they say that trump is not associated with this is that the people who put it together are all from his administration. the people in the videos are from his administration. if you want to be frightened, go ahead and listen to these training videos, which i guess are available for us all to listen to now. that is one thing i wanted to point out. the other thing is i wish that c-span would do a program about the murder or killing of lincoln riley. because it is always brought up on this. i would like to know the story behind that. i would like to know what happened to the fellow that killed her. i think it was a man. get the back story of the outcome of that. that's all i have to say for now. thank you. host: sandy, democratic line, massachusetts. good morning. caller: yes, i'm 81 years old and i believe that we need to listen to each other and are different thinking about the election and the candidates. i listen to as many television stations and newspapers as i can . i tried to get both sides. we are not doing that. the other thing, i would like to know if anyone can help me, where we can get training in listening to the other side and really trying to be objective as possible, if we want to vote for the right candidate that we feel will be the best person to govern the united states. thank you. host: this is "the washington post," this headline, since june "agents have been targeting attacks coming against both presidential campaigns." caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i wonder if any of these people thought of the issues we face as a country. inflation. people cannot make enough money to buy food, gas, everything is so high. we are heavily in debt. millions of illegal immigrants are getting more money than i make on social security. i believe in legal immigration, but not illegal. and i don't know how they can let illegals vote. they are illegal people, and i thank you for your time. host: alan in little rock, arkansas. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. well, it is great to be on again . it once a month kind of a thing. just remembering, as i was on hold, my first call was back in the 1980's, and my first political thought that i think i can date back to was, as a kid, thinking, why are they calling him president kennedy? i thought you only would say president in association to eisenhower. i'm just a kid. host: that was a long time ago, alan. caller: i thought president what with the name -- went with the name. so, high school debate team, college debate team, which led me to know that i have never won an argument in my life. so, i'm calling to wish a happy birthday, and would appreciate so much if you would help look up her online, youtube page. you have done that before for me. three other calls in the last six months. but her name is anna, from ukraine. and today is her birthday. so, happy birthday, anna from ukraine. and i'm calling to reach president trump. i am a conservative, independent, and i have supported him for four years on twitter as just trying to support him in every way possible. so, i am wanting to reach president trump and ask him, truly, to support ukraine and listen to anna from ukraine. she is the most articulate spokesperson for, really, independence and freedom in the world, and i almost think they will qualify being our 51st state, because they are so much like we were as we started as a country. a retired history teacher, and ukraine is so much like america when we started. so, i'm asking to invite anna on for a 30 minute segment, and -- host: alan, we will take that recommendation and hear from gregory in belleville, new jersey. caller: yes, good morning. how are you doing? anyway, i wanted to speak on, there is so much brainwashing. i'm getting tired of all of the stupidity in this country. host: about what, gregory? 1 yes -- caller: yes, i'm tired of the brainwashing and there are so many ignorant people. first of all, i want to speak on inflation. inflation is, note president of the united states can stop inflation. inflation, business can put a price on anything. there is too many legalized crooks in this country. and big business runs this country. they are all stealing. it is part of the makeup of america. how do you rob the country, period? and nothing is going to change unless they are going to admit to themselves who they are, and they are not prepared for that. the propaganda in this country through the news media, running a game on them. trump creates a lot of hatred in this country, period. he is playing on that. and his people try to hide it, which is mostly made up of white folks. taking us backwards to where, this game of america being great , there is no such thing. america has always been a conquering country. they are about greed. they are not going to change. they don't want to change. they want to keep control over the masses of people by spreading the propaganda they have in this country. it is so messed up, thinking about things that you have no control over. host: right, gregory. this is on fox eight live that says, president biden is visiting new orleans on tuesday for cancer moonshot event. it says that president biden is expected to announce a federal grant to help in the fight against cancer when he and first lady jill biden visit new orleans on tuesday. that is part of biden's cancer moonshot initiative. we will have coverage of that event live today here on c-span. it starts at 4:30 p.m. on the network. also on our app and online. and joey is calling us from atlanta, republican. hi, joey. caller: good morning. i really want for all of your viewers and listeners to understand how important it is to be properly informed. there is so much misinformation, so many lies and confusion, and it is amazing how this country is just falling apart. our country is at a turning point. i really want people to understand how important it is to vote for people who have christian morals, christian values. this is what this country was built on, and we are so far away from those roots that it is literally destroying us. we are going to destroy each other because our morals are no longer christian morals. we have to get back to the roots of what this country was built on. so many women and men have lost their lives protecting those rights, and we are literally destroying this country with the hate among each other. we are throwing stones at each other. there is one very important person once said, which one among us is sinless? let that person through the first stone. instead of trying to hate each other, let's build on each other. let's create love and unite us. let's get back to our christian values, because this country was built on christian values, and the longer we keep -- the more we keep fighting each other, we will destroy this country. america is going down the tubes because we are no longer a christian nation. thank you. host: cheryl, nevada, california, independent line. caller: yes, i just wanted to say, and to the man who just said ukraine should be the 51st state of the united states, you might want to consider that in a way it might be because we are subsidizing the whole ukrainian economy and not just of your efforts. the civil service and other aspects of the ukrainian economy. we are doing that. that is not what i really called to talk about. what i wanted to say was that i think that people, no matter what caller they are -- color they are, that we should not allow ourselves to be caught up in hatred or personalities, looking at people in politics just based on their color, or whether they are male or female, but pay attention to the policies and really tone down the rhetoric that has to do with hatred and camino, insulting people. no matter which side, you know, because it is not good. the only thing to come from that is terrible things. i think at this time so many people in this country have been suffering over the last four years because of the economy, with the effects of the pandemic. many people have become poor and needy, and many people who were formerly middle-class are not, and citizens, people who are citizens of this country, their quality of life is going down. and for many people they are suffering. i live in california and i know about that. i think the future of society and its strengths and longevity, much of it has to do with how they treat the poor and needy. so, we should care for them. host: right, cheryl. this is bric in sebring, florida. democrat. caller: good morning, c-span. thanks for letting me speak. host: go right ahead, rick. caller: i want to talk about guns. especially military weapons. i think there should be public armories for citizens to put their military weapons in a public armory, and put a tracking device on them. and have a receiver or something that beeps every time somebody in the neighborhood, or your school or church, has a device that will pick up the track and keep track of these military weapons. i can't believe they are not even talking about guns after that hernandez assassination attempt on the former president. you know, we don't get rid of these guns, there is going to be the next time there is an insurrection everybody's going to be ready to shoot. i think that is just horrendous, that nobody is even talking about don's. it is like it disappeared. i don't know where this country is going to come up but i can assure you that the next time there is a result it is not going to be without military weapons. and civilians should not have them. host: patty in mississippi, republican. caller: hi. i originally left mississippi. i am now in georgia, me and my husband, because mississippi has been neglected. we have been underfunded and it is very difficult. me and my husband, we packed up our two dogs. now we are in georgia. host: it is in north carolina, independent line. caller: yes, ma'am. good morning. as an independent i just want to hear more policy from kamala harris. i know she is the number two in the biden administration and supported all of his policies. but i would love to hear from her on what her policies are. and also the changes that she has made. i heard a little about some of the things she is up for. i'm just curious, why has she done a 180 now? is she still going to follow the biden policies? where is she going to make a different call? i have heard nothing from her so far, so i don't know if we're going to have another one of those elections like we had in 2020, where she is going to be a basement person instead of speaking. because she is handed the position. the position was given to her, and she was nonelected. but she was chosen. she was chosen for that position by biden and the democratic party. i would love to hear more. her poll numbers are looking great, but she has not spoke. that is what is getting me. i would love to hear her talk. i would love to hear her on what she thinks. like i said, what she has going against her now, she has the last 3.5 years under that administration, but if she is going to be her own person and be the boss i would really love to hear some of her speak. thank you for your time. host: governor tim walz will be addressing workers at the convention in los angeles today. we will also have live coverage of that. that starts at 5:00 p.m. today on c-span and on c-span now, our app, and on c-span.org, online. and here is freddie. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. thank you for taking my call. first i would like to state that the man that is running for president, donald trump, i am not a vietnam veteran, but i am an army veteran that has a problem with anybody that criticizes people that serve in any capacity. donald trump don't care about anyone but himself, and his followers, i don't understand why you were not voting your interests. most are either unemployed, low income, not educated, and [indiscernible] i don't understand why someone would throw themselves on a knife or a man when god is supposed to be the one that is supposed to have the position of authority. he thinks that just by him being white he's got privilege. he's got a policy to do whatever he wants. [indiscernible] not when we enslaved people, slotted the indians. -- slaughtered the indians. host: republican. good morning. jerry, are you still there? go ahead. caller: [indiscernible] flying around with air force two. we are paying for the fuel. how come we have to pay for the fuel to have her take planes all of the country when she ain't resident yet? -- president yet? number two, god saved trump for a reason. so, he's got a good reason to run for president. thank you. host: we will talk to gannon university professor jeffrey bloodworth about the role of rural and rustbelt voters this campaign cycle. stay with us. >> next up for c-span's coverage of this summer's political party conventions, we had to chicago for the democratic national convention. watch live, beginning monday, august 19, as the party puts forward their presidential nominee. here leaders talk about the administration's track record and their vision for the next four years. as the fight to continue the white house. the democratic national convention, live, august 19, on c-span, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. don't miss a moment. visit our website for the latest schedule updates and for full coverage of the republican national convention. you can also catch up on past conventions anytime at c-span.org/campaign, or by scanning the code. >> friday night, watching c-span's 2024 campaign trail. a weekly round up of campaign coverage, providing a one-stop shop to -- to discover what candidates are saying to voters. along with first-hand accounts from political reporters, updated poll numbers, fundraising data, and campaign ads. at 7:30 p.m. eastern on c-span, online at c-span.org, or download as a podcast on c-span now, our free mobile app. c-span. your unfiltered view of politics. >> c-spanshop.org is c-span's store. browse through our collection of products, apparel, books, home to core, and accessories. there is something for every c-span fan. shop now, or any time c-spanshop.org. >> "washington journal post quote continues. host: welcome back. we are joined now by jeffrey bloodworth, a professor at gannon university. welcome to the program. guest: it is great to be here. thanks for having me. host: i want to start with the piece you wrote for unheard. it is called "the revolt of the rust belt. what do you mean by revolt? guest: the rust belt for decades was a democratic stronghold, and donald trump in -- since 2016 has made this a trumpist area. he switched those states on the back of rustbelt voters. and won the presidency. you know, this is the seedbed of the trumpist movement. it is not the only stronghold, but it is one of the pillars that gives trump his strength and ability to retake the white house. host: can you define what the rust belt is and a little bit of the history, the political history of that area? guest: yeah, the rust belt is amorphous, but it is an area stretching from the upper midwest, thinking wisconsin, michigan, stretching east, you know, to pennsylvania, parts of new york. you can think of it stretching as far south as st. louis, missouri, all the way east through ohio. it is the industrial heartland. we call it the rust belt because in the 1950's it was home to 50% of all american jobs, right? think about heavy industry. they called the rust belt due to the process of automation, globalizatn, the industrial heartland has lost its economic might. and it slowly became a shell of its former self. many of these jobs were union jobs and they gave working-class people a real toehold in the middle class. think about it geographically as the heartland. this region has been taking it on the chin. i mean, no region in america has suffered more in the transition from being an industrialized economy to a postindustrial economy than the rust belt. i would argue that donald trump is the culmination of this massive transition. you know, millions of working-class voters who use to always have a toehold in the middle class or hoped to have a toehold in the middle class, have been left behind. i live in the rust belt and i traveled to d.c. or new york or overseas, and the difference in terms of affluence is quite stark. you know, for people who don't travel to the rust belt very often, they should come visit sometime. go to youngstown. come to. . drive-thru western pennsylvania. i think you will see why donald trump has a certain appeal to certain kinds of voters. he mentioned -- host: you mentioned the economic issues. what has been happening in the rust belt? guest: look, as the fruits of american prosperity have flowed to the coasts and flow to people like me who do not live on the coast, highly educated people, also the cultural power has flowed to highly educated elites on the coast. and, you know, those of us who live in the interior. they have a certain kind of value and cultural norms that stand in contrast to mainstream, middle american values. so, the culture wars, as we call them, they are part and parcel of a feeling of being left behind. of not having a voice in the larger, kind of national conversation. i think it is the economic issues that are at the forefront, but the culture war is a sense of working-class folk who feel angry about being left behind economically, and that makes them more prone to be activated by these culture war issues. look, it is just a different sensibility of highly educated people in los angeles versus a working-class person in youngstown, ohio, or here he, pennsylvania. but we know who controlled the legacy media and hollywood. it is a feeling of being left out and left behind. host: the subtitle of the book is that democrats have squandered the white working class. what have they done specifically, and what do you think they need to do, if anything, to regain the white working class? guest: let's begin with, the white working class is still the nation's single largest voting demographic. the largest sector of the american electorate. i mean, it is shrinking. in the 1970's 70% of all voters were white working class. to date is around 40%. it used to be the heart and soul of the democratic party. and starting in the late 1960's the democrats lost the white working class. you know, to the republican party. again, the white working class is not just one thing. the northern white working class is different from the southern white working class. but it used to be the heart and soul of the democratic party. and, you know, now the white working class has shifted to being the heart and soul of the republican party. and for democrats to not only just win an election, how do we get out of this democratic deficit we are in where neither party can build an enduring governing majority and really establish some kind of stability? this is not about winning one election. this is about democrats building an enduring government majority, passing legislation that can ameliorate some of the economic and social issues of working-class americans. the only way to do that is to win a significant portion of not just white working class, but donald trump is making inroads into the nonwhite working-class. the only way for democrats to not just win one election, but build a governing majority, is to win working-class voters back into the democratic coalition. that is a combination of a tangible policies, but also significant cultural symbolism. i would say it begins with letting working-class people run for office again. working-class people, right? people with working-class roots that might not have a college education. working in congressional and senate offices and on presidential campaigns. there is a different cultural sensibility between those who are only raised in upper-middle-class mail you -- i am a working-class kid myself. i have a phd and run in certain circles now. i can tell you, there is a different sensibility. i see as a historian of liberalism, i think i have insight into why american liberals have struggled over my entire lifetime. they have lost that working-class instability that used to animate the party of fdr. host: if you would like to join the conversation you can do so. our lines are, republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. and independents, (202) 748-8002 . you can start calling in now. jeff, switching over to rural voters, you wrote an opinion piece in the "washington post" in june, so this is before biden dropped out of the race. with the headline, rural voters do not trust biden. the progressive voters even care? explain what you mean by that. guest: i was writing a biography on carl albert. this is somebody who would win 75% of the rural vote in deep red oklahoma. the very same regions that a liberal house speaker would win 75% of the vote are the strongest trump regions today. when i have come to see as an academic, and i run in these circles, is that highly educated americans, who generally lean left, they look at rural america with this disdain, with this sense of, those stupid people vote for trump. there is a very real sensibility. i'm not making this up. that there is nothing you can say to these people. these people vote against their interests. again, this is not every democrat by any stretch, but i'm talking about academia. that filters down into elite opinion. that there is almost like something inevitably reactionary about rural america. which is bizarre to a historian, because we understand that liberalism was born in rural america. as recently as the 1990's bill clinton won about half of the rural vote. so the question is, do progressives even care. there is a certain part of the democratic party that is -- that has written off rural america as reactionary. there are candidates all across the country in 2024 pushing back against that. i want to make that clear. there is a lot of interesting democrats running in rural america that opinion. there sense of a rising insurgency pushing back against i -- against what i would think i had become conventional wisdom. that is the question. for vice president harris, whether she wins or not is the margins of defeat in rural america. who will win that contest? will progressives care and go out to rural and the rust belt and avidly campaign and asked for their votes? in 2016, eureka, pennsylvania, the third largest -- eerie, pennsylvania, you cannot get a yard sign for hillary clinton. that is how little the campaign cared about pennsylvania. no wonder she lost pennsylvania. this is an encapsulation of an elite attitude. in pennsylvania philadelphia and pittsburgh matter as far as elite democrats are concerned. that is the push and pull and there is a real movement against that within the democratic party. that sensibility most certainly is there and set the stage for donald trump in 2016. host: let's take calls and we will start with stephen in arizona. republican. caller: i have two questions. when the people from the rust belt see jd vance getting beat up by the media, do they believe it? it seems like academia, which sees the other vice president elect being treated like he is the second coming erica, and then they see vance -- the second coming for america and the macy vance getting beat up -- and then they see vance getting beat up, to they believe those things? i think the people in the rust belt have more common sense and they see the media is beating not just trump up but the whole conservative movement. we want low taxes. we want the border secure. we see the world blowing up. we see the democrats do not say anything about it and we see the media does not say anything about the negativity. kamala harris says she will help the tips, the waitresses will not be taxed on their tips. meanwhile she was the deciding vote to break the 50/50 tie to send the irs after the people that get tips. host: what do you think? guest: i just read in the new york times this morning, there is an op-ed pillorying vice president harris and donald trump further policy of not taxing tips. i shook my head. it is the legacy media that does not understand how you appeal to working-class voters. i worked in restaurants for years. i can tell you, that is really appealing to tipped employees. that matters. it might seem like a small policy but is a signal that people in washington understand you, get you. that is what working-class americans -- they do not think. i grew up in this mill you. they do not think that people in washington or wall street or hollywood fully understand and get them. i will say, i read "hillbilly elegy" when it came out. i even assigned it to my classes as way to understand the from vote. i think it is a good book. the movie made by ronoward was a good movie. i grew up in a very similar circumstance. it rings true to me. it is very odd help vance is being attacked on how he faked his biography. that is odd. there are particulars about j.d. vance and how he first thought donald trump was terrible and now thinks he is great that you can attack him on. it is strange to me. the question about how people in the rust belt will take these attacks on j.d. vance. i think j.d. vance's story, let's imagine he made it up. i don't think he did. i don't think you can write a book like that without it being true. it rings true in the rust belt. the opioid crisis, joblessness, depths of despair gripping our region in a way the rest of america does not fully appreciate. i do not think those attacks on his biography will do anything. he is an authentic kid of the rust belt. whether he is an authentic voice for trump is another thing. i think that is where j.d. vance's contribution to the republican ticket will matter. there is an elit

ron vitiello joins us now. ron, what's the problem here? >> the problem is that these sanctuary jurisdictions put us all at risk. let's think about this particular individual. he came into the country illegally so he broke federal law by cominged into the country without being nmsd. he was not invited here. then he went to the boston area and committed crimes, was arrested by a local jurisdiction. his freedom was taken away. he was put in jail. and this jurisdiction refuses to notify ice that they are in the country illegally. that puts everybody in those jurisdictions at risk. and so this is an example of sanctuary cities -- how they harm the rest of us. >> lawrence: let's get to that, ronief of patrol here nypd, this is what he said on x, talk about this. when will our sanctuary city laws be amended to allow to us notify federal authorities regarding the deportation of non-citizens convicted of violent crimes? failing to act enables individuals like daniel daveon bo nil i can't to continue victimizing women in our city. so he is saying that he can't even do it. even if he wanted to tell ice what was going on we all have an immigration story in our background. but people, a lot of people have come here. they come here to do harm to us. they have evil intent in their hearts. and, when they get arrested for crimes in a place like new york city, they should be -- they should be notifying ice. they should be we did ported after that. that puts us all at risk. if the sanctuary city has that policy, that puts us all at risk. it puts the people of new york and boston, massachusetts and the entire state of california. we're all at risk because these people just don't come here

ron from turkey. and they were in a ron for 2 hours to meet with ronnie and officials. while they are, they provided iranian officials, according to the report, the list of 10 most odd agents operating in the country that they believed were involved directly or indirectly in the recent assassination. and they said that this was intended as a good faith response to these railey states starting strikes. and it was done with the intention of convincing iran to hold off its actions to some degree or other. now the report has been removed from the fox website. not true. if joe biden named comma la harris actually gave the names of under cover most ad agents in iran, it would be a level of the trail of israel, difficult to fathom the. okay, the i what ted cruz of fox or ted cruz, the republican us senator reacting to the the report saying that of course, if this was indeed true, it would be betrayal of israel on a level that he would be utterly shocked by now the us has denied the report as we have heard, they've said it's categorically false, israel and the wrong have not yet responded to it. now this call comes amid talks that are taking place in del hot joe biden recently said that they were closer than ever or to a ceasefire. and the guitar, a prime minister, has called on a ron to hold off and attack on israel. well, definitely something to keep an eye on optical starting to start disappear. so it definitely means that something is not optical scouts someone somewhere that was all to postpone to and capable and giving us all the details on that think she kind of well, that's called blog now to john as well, but in the cast, i mean what, what we called, is it a brief summary of what was said that? i mean it's interesting if the report is true, what strikes me is that it's always the recognition of ron's legitimate concerns when it comes to his reactions. yeah, absolutely. but i believe that the assassination of say in the n e a must have been coordinated with the united states to begin with. what i do thank here is that there are elements within the us government, the us security state which do not want to see a wider regional configuration because it is a. ready or which say, quite frankly, cut off when and so there is definitely an interest from the us side

fox news website, but according to the report and american delegation flew julie ron from cherokee, and they were in a ron for 2 hours to meet with ronnie and officials. while they are, they provided iranian officials, according to the report. the list of the 10 most odd agents operating in the country that they believed were involved directly or indirectly in the recent assassination. and they said that this was intended as a good faith response to the israeli states starting strikes. uh, and it was done with the intention of convincing iran to hold off its actions to some degree or other. now the report has been removed from the fox website us senator ted cruz. he replied to the report, saying that if it was indeed true, it would constitute an unfathomable betrayal of israel by the united states. here's what ted cruz had to say. i pray this is not true if joe biden in cumberland harris actually gave the names of under cover most ad agents in iran, it would be a level of the trail of israel, difficult to fathom. now the united states itself has denied the report saying it is categorically false. that was

escalation in the middle east between israel and your ron and people are waiting to see what happens next. in light of the assassination and ron's plan to retell.

ron is a foreign policy issue that sanctions, that the us as imposing the ron are necessary for yvonne's economy to be able to function the strategy that the volumes have been pursuing for the last couple of years after they concluded that the united states is incapable and unwilling to offer sustained sanctions relief is that they stop looking for sanctions relief and instead shift it towards the sanctions. neutralization meaning that the intensified trade with neighboring states in non us dollars. and as a result, sought to have a trade that was protected from us sanctions. while that is important from their standpoint and position is not abandoning that approach, he wants to see it complimented, with some sanctions relief that allows yvonne to be a recipient of international investments which it is in dire need of. but that cannot happen unless there are the please, some sort of an agreement between the united states in the wrong and his entire presidency may crash over this issue. treat it. i don't know whether you have good inroads into what the average iranian citizen is feeling at this moment. are they comfortable with being members of the access of resistance and leading that? are they comfortable and do they want to see a strike back? it is real. do they have other objectives that might be closer to what possess key on one? it didn't set out at the beginning how. how do you feel like the average you're running is feeling in this moment? it, well, the issue is that there is no such thing as an average you wrong, and this is a society that is quite divided on along these lines. you definitely have a segment of society that leaves that what is happening between israel and palestine in general. perhaps their views or change a little bit, mind some of the genocide going on in general, they tend to be sympathetic to the palestinians quite overwhelmingly. but don't believe that that is yvonne's bites to engage in and are quite critical of their perception of how much money you bond is spending on some of these different groups and, and don't see this access of something to be proud of. but you have another segment of society as well that feel quite strongly about these issues, whether it's because of religious issues or either logical reasons, but also a very clear segment of society that perhaps transcends these. but they also understand that you're on a, as in a neighborhood famously, that is quite tough. they see in america that is very hostile. yes, the ron is hostile to the united states as well. but there's a very important data points here. e, ron bid signs a jp away, yvonne agreed and lives up to the von nuclear deal. the united states was the party that we drew from it. and i think that focus huge hole in the idea that all of this enmity is just simply because of the radicalism of the united states, of the stomach for public. that certainly is a factor. but you also have another factor which is that still a need towards yvonne tends to be politically attracted for politicians in the united states. obama proved himself to be a major exception of. and on top of that, you also saw things such as when ices emerge in which he runs investment in some of these groups prove fruitful in the feeding ices and after ice a short such a strong anti. she sent to mentioned it and killed such a large number of she has a lot of people inside of your own. also recognize that they would be coming against yvonne at some point. had it not been free of on

for an interview on x, just over an year ago we saw him interview ron desantis shortly after he launched his presidential campaign, rontually suspended his presidential campaign, but that was really riddled with a number of technical difficulties, it seemed to bejust number of technical difficulties, it seemed to be just a number of technical difficulties, it seemed to bejust a poor number of technical difficulties, it seemed to be just a poor roll—out. x, elon musk and desantis got some backlash for that roll—out for that interview. it will be interesting to see how this one goes. i imagine it has taken over a year, elon musk has sort of been able to iron through some of those technical difficulties. but definitely something to watch considering these two men are people who are very much trying to cater towards a very similar audience, a conservative leaning audience, an audience that isn't as friendly with democrats. so it will be interesting to watch. it obviously raises questions about the power, the political power that can be used by the owner of this vast network. and questions about what the us government and

identified as a refugee fears of a wider war, are growing as a ron threatens israel with a broad counter strike for the killing of a smile on the, to ron blaine's israel for assassinating the hamas leader on it's soil, the us announced it's sending additional fighter jets to the region along with an aircraft carrier to help defend israel. crowds are lining up at the roots international airport as the us the u. k. and other governments urged their citizens to leave lebanon as soon as possible. the u. s. embassy and 11 on his telling its citizens to leave on quote, any ticket available after several airlines suspended and canceled flights to be route. british nationals have been told to quote, believe now by the u. k. government, a mid fears of the conflict in the region escalating i x e w, corresponded tonya kramer in jerusalem to tell us about the mood and israel, or, well, i think it depends. so you all that's coming, genuinely, some people i talked to you over the past week. they said what it had to be done. you know, the strikes and they roots but also in turnaround for which is what it has not taken responsibility. but they see thi

ron klain, he's amazing. yeah. ron klain is amazing he may seem like a friendly bear. he is sort of he's a tough freaking person and he is run more debate preps than anyone ever. maybe. i don't know. he's run like every debate prep for years. he's done well. he worked with first worked for ron on the gore campaign and he i don't think he ran debate properties intimately involved in that. yeah he did both of obama's he hillary's he did biden's. yeah. okay so he's a very experienced he has also known president biden decades and he is a person who can say to him, stop, stop talking, stop questioning this, whatever. there are five people on the planet who can do that. and he's one of them, i would say. which one of them? i think the challenge for president biden is going to be he's a prepper in sense that he often thinks that people will judge him for not having data point on every accomplishment on every issue. i'm like burn those cards because he's at his best when he is just agile the moment engaging in the empathetic way that we've all we've just described. so that's to be the thing to unravel from because everything you do with debate prep is you prep all the answers to the questions. a huge q&a document out, but the debate with donald trump is not to be like who knows mor