ronny jackson on the move.rotection. >> as ronny jackson is moving around the capitol, the insurrection firsts who are beating capitol police officers to within minutes of their lives is looking for a member who he knows so much about. he knows he's moving, needs protection if anyone inside, cover him. it's like an active law enforcement or military action here. he has critical data to protect. stewart rhodes then, who has been charged with seditious conspiracy says this at 3:10. give him my cell. >> what do you make of that, frank? >> looking at this through the lens of a criminal investigator which i am or have been for 25 years, this is significant. the content of these letters is significant. why? because we're moving beyond witnesses to other people's behavior that have been called before the committee. we are now talking about sitting members of congress who are being asked to explain their own conduct, their own behavior, their own relationships with violent extremist groups and we're not asking you to t

when members said that ronny jackson, offset inside capital, he needs oath keeper help, anyone inside? i second oath keepers replied, hopefully they can help dr. jackson. the first one answered, dr. ronny jackson on the move, needs protection if anyone inside he has critical data to protect. the group's leader, elmer stewart rhodes the third, currently faces charges of seditious conspiracy for his role in the insurrection. he said, help with, would give him my cell. congressman jackson said he would not cooperate with the committee, he said i will not participate in the illegitimate committees ruthless crusade against president trump and his allies. kyle cheney recently published an article against the seditious conspiracy charges against the oath keepers. let's start with ronny jackson stuff, i don't have much context and i haven't seen some other context other than what's quoted in the letter there's just a sort of a strange set of facts to introduce him to the record about what ronny jackson might have. it is, these messages appeared in the court case against the oath keepers, were

rhodes head ronnie jackson needs protection and he has critical dat to protect.ged with conspiracy talking about this member of congress ronnie jackson having critical data to protect? the committee says please come in, let's tal to you about that. they would like to talk to these individuals on the week of m 9th, ahead of public hearings scheduled to begin for the january 6th committee on june 9th. >> this special grand jury that's just been seated in fulton county, this is a criminal case, criminal investigation into trump's call to georgia's secretary of state trying to overturn his loss. this is that audio from january 2021. >> so look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is within more than we have. >> this would be really important if you're trying to establish intent, the motive behind that call. he just wanted one more vot than what he exactly had. what's the timeline and the scope of this investigation? >> reporter: i guess the first thing is to lay the groundwork. he said this is annvestigation into potential criminal charg

they're talking about encrypted conversations, three text messages involving ronny jackson, the former, a congressman from texas. he needs oath keeper help. anyone inside? next messenger, hope they can help dr. jackson. dr. jackson on the move, needs protection if anyone inside. he has critical data to protect. every week we're learning raising new questions and now the question is do we get the answer. >> the other question is do they cooperate? does the select committee actually issue a subpoena? is there a court fight over that subpoena, and at the end of the day, are some of these messages actually part of encrypted messaging systems in which the select committee would never be able to get ahold of them in the traditional way they've been able to get some of these text messages? so that is all part of the challenge for the select committee. they are trying to tell the story of that day. they are trying to explain to the american people what happened. who was involved, and they've been selective about who they actually ask for information from. it's not just anyone, but it's people

ronny jackson's letter.hey say they want to talk to him because while the january 6th attack was underway, and i'm reading here from the letter -- >> reporter: we have since heard from jackson. and he says -- >> reporter: i imagine that's something we could hear from the other two lawmakers that the committee has sought out in this because of the way they have been allied with the former president in the past. the one person i'm looking at though, and you share this intrigue, is with congressman mo brooks, because of the way that the former president so unceremoniously unendorsed him in his alabama race. there is the open question there, if he is angry enough at the former president to cooperate with the january 6th committy. because i think the important thing here is, these are asks, they are not subpoenas. that's the open question that the committee will have to answer here. if they need to talk to law makers here so importantly, are they willing to subpoena them? we do expect in addition to these three l

ronnie jackson is one of the president's favorite new congress members, being his former physician. remember, he gave the president that wonderful vote of confidence about his health, former president trump, the greatest health of anybody who had been in the white house or something like that. you have interesting characters involved here, charles. >> absolutely. i also think that what is being smartly done by chairman thompson with respect to how these letters are being crafted is there's enough information that goes out within the letters to prompt a bit of pressure in terms of where somebody may be implicated. i think you see that demonstrated masterfully with respect in the letter to jackson with the issue of his personal protection and informing he has critical data that needs to be protected and that raises questions that serve as a backstop, and if the letter doesn't have teeth behind it it serves as a backstop should he choose to ignore the letter altogether, there will be questions that result from the information that is already presented in the area, as ali talked about.

and then there's ronny jackson of texas.nd donald trump. interestingly, there were text messages recently revealed that the oath keepers had texted about him and tried to see how they could help keep him safe in the midst of that capitol talk. the committee wants to hear from ronny jackson and bigs and brooks. if past is any precedent here, we likely won't see any cooperation with these three. they've tried to get previous members, republican members to cooperate. they haven't seen anything fr fruitful. we're waiting for a response from these members of congress. again, the committee right now ramping up their investigative efforts as we head into may and expecting the first public hearings in early june. >> all right. let's see. jessica, thank you for that. thank you all for being here. i'm kate bolduan. "inside politics" starts after this. i earn 3% cash back at drugstores with chase freedom unlimited. so i got cards for birthdays, holidays, graduations, i'm coverefor everything. which minds me, thank you for driving me to

we'll be talking more about this with texas congressman ronny jackson in a couple minutes. >> todd: joe biden approval rating sink withing americans, 18% think america is on the right track. joe concha is here to put us on the right track. he's moving up next. joe concha the right track. he's moving up next. right track. joe concha is here to put us on the right track. he's moving up next. >> todd: welcome back. new poll biden's approval rating still under water and 18% of you americans think the country is on the right track under his leadership. >> carley: lucas tomlinson has more. good morning. >> when sworn into office inflation was 1.4%, now 8.3%. biden blames republicans for the spike. >> president biden: republicans say the programs help middle class people, that is why we have inflation. they are dead wrong. under my predecessor, the great maga king, the deficit increased every single year he was president. >> a new poll finds 18% of americans say the country is on the right track. the president's approval rating hovering at 18%. inflation is 40-year high and families struggling

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in the case of ronnie jackson, it's the physician at the white house. he remains a top ally., trump unendorsed him in that race in alabama. the question is he upset enough to talk to the committee. he seemed to leave the door open a little bit when i asked him about this. but now that the committee is asking him, we'll see what he has to say. >> great reporting as always. thank you. >>> coming up next, prosecutors in georgia convene a special grand jury to investigate former president trump's attempts to mettle with the presidential election results. we'll have what it means legally for the former president. that's next. you're watching "meet the press daily." watching "meet the pres daily. ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪ this magic moment ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ from prom dresses to workouts ♪ so different and so new ♪ and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination

as for the president's former white house doctor, now the congressman from jackson, ronny jackson, themittee wants to know about encrypted communication between members of the oath keepers, on the day of january 6th. they said jackson needs to carry because of quote critical data to protect. not clear what the data is. the committee would like to find out. all three congressman have predictably declined to cooperate. >>> as covid cases rise again in just about every state, hospitalizations are starting to go up as well. this, as health experts are also keeping an eye on new variants emerging abroad. nbc news correspondent emily aketa has more. >> covid infections are climbing coast to coast and it's not just the number of cases, hospitalizations in parts of the country are starting to pick up, too. the cdc now urging residents in 56 high-risk counties to mask up. two-thirds of those areas are in the state of new york. >> i'm not going to stand here and say we're looking at shutdowns. i said we're going to protect the health of new yorkers. >> national case loads are only a fraction of

there's also a separate investigation into representative ronny jackson. looking into whether or not he may have misused campaign funds at a dinner club in amarillo, texas. his lawyer has denied any wrong doing, and that comes after the office of congressional ethics had done a separate investigation into this matter, which they said jackson did not participate in. however, his lawyer did respond to that investigation. there's also an investigation into representative alex mooney, a republican from the state of west virginia who is going to be looked at by the ethics committee about whether or not he may have misused staff time for personal errands or campaign activity as well as whether or not he may have accepted gifts that were inappropriate for a congressman to receive. so those are some of the items that the committee is going to be investigating. we should note that mooney has denied these allegations. he also was referred from the office of the congressional ethics for wrong doing, but there is going to be this investigation by the ethics committee,

mo brooks, andy biggs, and former president trump doctor ronny jackson. >> it's not just general, gosh, we'd like to know what's on your mind, but specific areas of inquiry. >> reporter: members of far-right groups texted on the 6th about protecting jackson, writing, if anyone inside, cover him. he has critical data to protect meanwhile, the committee saying biggs attended meetings with the trump white house about efforts to illegally overturn the election results he also allegedly sought a presidential pardon for those activities both jackson and biggs saying they won't participate. and in fulton county, georgia, the legal battle begins into whether trump and others tried to illegally influence the 2020 election. >> you shall give true answers. >> reporter: prosecutors there seating a special grand jury today and here in washington, more interview requests still to come. >> we will ask more than three people. >> any senators? >> yes >> reporter: that would be a first for the committee. still grappling with if they're willing to subpoena their colleagues. >> it's not off the table. i d

ronny jackson, thanks, buddy. but it is true, though, that, right now, this is a moment where not only do you, of course, have several top biden officials coming down with the coronavirus, but much of the washington press core at a time where, let's just say, there's a lot going on in terms of news in washington, d.c. >> yeah. >> good point. >> it is fascinating. willie, a couple of things to note. if you look at the shot of jonathan lemire, yes, he wore a mask, but we still have him encased in the glass box you often see in superhero movies. that's obviously where they kept loki. he is in the glass box like loki. also -- >> alex says it is not because of covid. >> yeah, you know, it is because i think the new york yankees have actually -- are melting down our operations right now. >> there have been some tech issues this morning. >> there have been some tech issues. also, yeah, he is in the glass box. also, he did wear a mask. man, you should see the pictures of all the food smeared on the front of the mask while

former white house doctor representative ronnie jackson says no calling it a ruthless crusade against donald trump. representative andy bigs tweeted he'll not participate. and congressman mo brooks of alabama who was critical of president trump after they had a falling out said he will not talk unless subpoenaed by the court. >>> traveling new research shows possible ways that covid severely affects children. scientists at the murdoch children research institute and the university of melbourne collected blood samples from 33 children with covid. they found protein specific to acute respiratory distress syndrome. that could eventually lead to different parts of the body incoming inflamed including the heart, lungs, and brain. >>> covid cases on the rise after coachella. 76 percent in river side county after the music festival took place. it was held outside but organizers did not require masks or proof of vaccination. the day before it started, there were 102 daily cases in river side county. four days after the event ended, the number jumped to 180. experts said there's likely more ca

andy biggs, mo brooks and ronny jackson.t pardons for their efforts to overturn the election. mo brooks revved up the crowd in washington before the riot. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking [bleep]. >> the final hearing comes in september. that coincides with the release for the committee's report. committee members would like to hear from mike pence. >> yes, i would love to see that. i would hope and think the president would want to tell his story. he did do the right thing on that day. if he doesn't, we'll look at the options available to us. >> three other house members have refused to cooperate. kevin mccarthy, scott perry and jim jordan of ohio. neil? >> neil: republicans take hold of the house, all this goes away though, right? >> that's right. it's typical for certain majorities to empanel a committee, policy issues. the democrats had a committee that dealt with climate change in 2007. republicans will get rid of this panel if they take the house january 3. >> neil: thanks, chad

so these three gop lawmakers are congressman andy biggs of arizona, mo brooks of alabama, ronny jacksoncan lawmakers in total including kevin mccarthy who the january 6 committee wants to talk to. unfortunately for the committee, almost all of those requests have been refused by the individuals. now, that is pretty remarkable considering the fact that some members of trump's own family have come in voluntarily and provided information. but these lawmakers making it clear that they view the committee's investigation as a witch hunt and they have no interest in participating in the investigation itself. now, what is interesting about these letters though, they do reveal new information about where the committee is in the course of its investigation. it mentions recent testimony that was provided by white house personnel where congressman bibig s bigss oig' name was mentioned. and so we're getting a sense of how far along the committee is in its investigation and how much trump's influence is really impacting the potential cooperation from these members of congress. commitity has left the

also messy is this, a review panel is recommending an investigation into republican congressman ronny jacksonay have violated federal law by using campaign funds to pay for private dining club in texas. an advisory panel called the office of congressional ethics conducted a review which found that jackson had been making consistent payments to the club and using his campaign finances to do so. these finances included membership fees, dues, and even meals. but jackson himself did not cooperate with the review panel, but his lawyer claims there was no wrongdoing. so we'll have to see if the house ethics committee opens its own investigation. >> we know that you will stay on top of it, annie grayer, thank you. >>> and let's get a check on cnn business this morning. looking at markets around the world to start the day, you can see asian shares fell here, big reason there, the covid-19 lockdowns and concerns what that will mean for china's economy in particular. europe opened lower. and stock index futures are also down. looking like the s&p 500 will be flirting again with the bear market after ro

. >> congressman ronny jackson of texas, you may remember, is donald trump's white house doctor. has not been hiding his parties true aim. they are gerrymandering, redrawing the map for that majority to give them the greatest advantage in this year 's midterm elections. the reality is happening across the country now. it brings up a broader question but i think, for the center of so much of what we cover. what do you do when institutions you believe in, and want to succeed, are breaking down? i think there's two possible ways to approach this. one, you can fortify the institution because otherwise you would end up in a race that the bottom. if you do the rule breaking the other side, those that got a license to do more. one other approach is that you can try to fight fire with fire. if you believe that fundamentally, is not the institutions, or the norms that matter, but rather, doing whatever it takes within the law to protect a free and flushing democracy, but we see this battle between institutionalist and those who are against the system or skeptical of it all the time. anoth

as we reported here yesterday, three house republicans, andy biggs of arizona, ronny jackson of texase day of the insurrection. after receiving those letters, all three congressmen said, no. they rejected the requests, leaving the committee with the option to subpoena the members to compel them to testify. the news comes as a new poll shows that a majority of americans want justice to be served for the former president. "washington post" abc news poll released this morning found that 52% of americans believe that trump should be charged with a crime for urging his supporters to march to the capitol on january 6th. joining us, "washington post" congressional investigations reporter, also an msnbc contributor. it's an interesting peek into public opinion and my only thought was it does give the committee a little bit of wind at its back. there is still a majority of americans who see very clearly what we talk about every day, there's been no accountability for the man who sent his supporters to the capitol to endanger the transition of power and his own vice president. >> yeah, nicole,

. >> we know that you know that ronny jackson, republican member of congress ronny jackson was discussedhe be subpoenaed? >> i won't get into who will be asked or requested or subpoenas. i think the process we've outlined is that the chairman will make any announcements. but obviously we've had to release some information in court filings to make the case as to the committee's process and the like and so there has been some information. and unfortunately, a few things have leaked. i don't know how and in some cases there have been filings in criminal matters in the department of justice, information has come out. so a lot of information has come out to the public but certainly far from all of it. >> i mean, should we be -- could there be more subpoenas for other members of house and/or senate? >> it is possible. >> it's possible. so not to rule that out. i want to ask you, if you sort of step back from where this started, it started with kevin mccarthy sending his colleague john katko out to negotiate the terms of a bipartisan commission to investigate the deadly insurrection on the u.s.

. >> the january 6th committee did request interviews from three house republicans this week, ronny jacksonee of them have declined. interesting lee the committee is interested from tech sent by the oath keepers. saying that congressman jackson needed protection because he had, quote, critical data. this seems serious. as you are just elaborating on, it takes it into a slightly different direction. >> that's right, i mean, then it starts to look a little like coordination. exactly why was that data critical? what was a critical for? how did that relate to what's actually unfolded on january 6th. you >> should congressman jackson be subpoenaed by the committee? >> i think the committee is going to do whatever it has to do to get him to comply. really, at this juncture we have to figure out what's the hard truth are about january 6th. if we don't, then we are liable to have this repeated again. >> and of course the big news this week is the committee was set to interview rudy giuliani. he backed out after his last-minute request to record the interview, which was denied. and obviously it seem

congressman andy biggs of arizona, mo brooks of alabama and ronny jackson of texas are being asked torily. biggs said today he would not participate. the focus is on white house meetings and talks with then-president trump and rallies leading up to the u.s. capitol assault. the biggest wildfire in the u.s. kept getting bigger today, after destroying or damaging more than 170 homes in recent days. the fire is burning in northeastern new mexico, near the small community of las vegas. it has scorched about 190 square miles so far. fast-moving flames forced more people to lead today, following those who got out sunday. >> i got up in the morning at 6:00. at that time the smoke was still miles away. by 9:00, the smoke in the valley was so thick, you needed a butter knife to cut through it. judy: the evacuation order included some 200 patients at a small psychiatric hospital. in philadelphia, a former police officer charged with murdering a 12-year-old boy in march. investigators say the boy, thomas "t.j." siderio, had fired a shot at an unmarked car and woded a plainclothes officer. but, t

congressman ronny jackson, andy digs and mo brooks.january 6th rally and beyond. there are new letters, which includes evidence of what the committee already has and points to republican lawmakers at times fearing that their own election plot was criminal. let me reheat -- the republicans who are being asked to tell their side of the story, and maybe they have good defenses arguments to offer, but they were the ones according to evidence, who thought their own plot might be criminal. these lawmakers are showing their awareness of cup pablt in plans to try to overturn the election. with that in mind, let me tell you what you learned. in this new letter to congressman biggs, the committee states he was a part pant in an effort to seek presidential pardon for activities take ton overturn election results for trump. now, this is not some random analysis. this is not saying that law professors or commentators thought this was illegal. it's saying they, these republican members of congress were seek pardons. well, a pardon is an admission of

has sent letters seeking voluntary cooperation from representatives andy bigs, mo brooks, and ronny jackson the right wing oath keepers group were asked by its leaders to provide representative jackson with personalsecurity assistance that day. in a unanimous ruling, the supreme court says today the city of boston should have allowed a christian flag to be raised in front of its city hall the judges say that since the city has allowed dozens of other groups to fly their flags outside the building, the rejection of a similar request from a religious group violated its first amendment rights >> and new york city has raised its covid risk level to yellow it is recording about 2,500 new cases each day that's up from about 600 in early march. i think scott that would be no shock to many of us in the new york market. >> ty, thanks. >>> warren buffett and charlie munger riffed on a lot this weekend at the berkshire hathaway annual meeting the including robinhood. here's charlie munger, listen. >> robinhood when it came out, it went public, and everybody and all this sehort-term gamblig and big com

those lawmakers are congressman andy biggs, mo brooks and ronny jackson.kson quickly declined the offer telling nbc, quote, i will not participate in the illegitimate committee's ruthless crusade against president trump and his allies, unkweempt predictable response from a trump sycophant accused of harassing staff and drinking while serving as white house physician and late today congressman biggs participated he won't be participating in the illegitimate democrat-stlizing panel and calling it a sham. these republicans are trying to shield someone who tried to stealth presidency. he also wanted to shoot unarmed civilians exercising their first amendment rights. remember during the george floyd demonstrations when trump had to hide in his underground bunker while protesters clashed with police near the white house. well, according to a forthcoming memoir according to markenser trump said can't you just shoot them, shoot them in the legs or something. it didn't happen but it very well could when one day a different trump cabinet agrees to shoot officials an

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and just like we did for the incredible, phenomenal content brown jackson, --ketanji ronny jackson, justip -- stood up for kbj, we are going to stand up and back judicial nominees school the fan abortion rights in this country. and we are not going to do it alone. we have a beautiful coalition. we will work with our partners across reproductive rights and labor to ensure that the voices of blacks, bettina, api, indigenous and immigrant women who read most impacted in a post roe v. wade world, they must be heard and they must be seen. that is right. it is time to pay -- action. just show up in raise your signs today. leave here with your mind to determine to do action. that is right. if you don't do anything else, when you leave this rally today, i mean -- needing to call or text 10 france. got 10 friends and you don't know whether or not they are going to go out and vote. i got more than 10. i got cousins and plate cousins. text them. they cannot sit on the fence. it is too damn important and don't just ask them tomorrow. you keep texting them every single day. it is too much at stake. o

ronny jackson from texas, mo brooks from alabama is another one. they want the members come in.epublican members say they will not come in, kevin mccarthy, jim jordan and others. i was told over the weekend they will have eight hearings between early june, june 9 and the 4th of july to try to put a button on this early september. that is when they release the report. eight hearings probably in the early summertime here. wrap this up right before the midterm elections. neil: so republicans if they were to take the majority in the house, forget about the senate, how would they treat those hearings? >> well they would get rid of this committee to start with. every majority creates its own committees. the democrats, they had committees on the climate. they did back in 2007. they did when they got the majority back in 2019. those committees did not exist under republican rule here. keep in mind that it was republicans back in 2013 who put together the benghazi committee, something the democrats wouldn't have done had they been running the house at that time. neil: would republicans a

ronny jackson is one of them. >> and kevin mccarthy, multiple. >> kevin mccarthy, i think, three or fourublican members to drop? >> well, stay tuned. we will have more information in the near future. >> all right. congresswoman zoe lofgren, thank you for starting us off and sharing what you can. always grateful for your time. >>> joining our coverage, nick confessore, "new york times" political investigative reporter, matt dowd is here, political strategist, and founder of country over party. back with us onset, i lied about the one hour, we roped him in for another, former top state department official rick stengel is still here. lucky for us, all three are msnbc contributors. nick, i start with you. betsy woodruff swan put it perfectly, the late breakthroughs the committee has had should not go unremarked upon, and that would include the president's children, ivanka trump, donald trump jr., and, i guess, kim guilfoyle is a future daughter-in-law, jared kushner is his son-in-law. they have all testified before the committee. as you heard from congresswoman lofgren, they answered the que

mo brooks, andy bigs and ronny jackson. >> it is not just gem gosh woed like to know what is your on s and also allegedly sought a presidential pardon for those activities. both jackson and biggs saying they wouldn't participate. and in georgia, the legal battle begins in whether trump and others tried to illegally influence the 2020 election. >> you have shown -- >> reporter: prosecutors seating a special grand jury and more requests still could tom. >> we will ask more than three people? >> any senators? >> yes. >> that is a first for committee. still grappling if they're willing to subpoena their colleagues. >> it is not off the table. i don't see how a member of congress could not uphold the constitution in light of what occurred on january 6. >> nbc's ali vitale with that report. it is really incredible to watch this all play out. accountability is hard to come by. >> accountability is hard to come by from people who get lekked to congress and made an oath on the constitution of the united states that they would uphold that constitution laws of this country. and yet they actively

ronnie have information relevant. theyre kinglawms toinfoion. congressman jackson's name was linked to messages. they wanted to protect the congressman. congressman brooks is facing a civil lawsuit over the speech he gave. >> american patriots start taking down names.>> reporter: the january 6 committee one the most recent case when a trump federal judge. >> reporter: heated sided with the january 6 committee. sang the fundraising helped stoke violence. >> we see protesters.>> reporter: it helped attribute to staffing shortages in the capital police. contractors had begun taking over their duties. security officers who are not sworn officers will be unarmed and will not wear police uniforms.>>> webster was convicted on all six counts. the assault charges punishable by 20 years. sentencing guidelines will recommend a shorter prison term.>>> u.s. embassy staff took a trip to ukraine. with the goal of returning to the capital by the end of may. russia continues their assault. images of hope are emerging. >> reporter: american diplomats returned monday holding a news conference. >> we will do day tr