we waited and waited and waited and ross perot did not come. so about 15 minutes before we went on air, i hear ross perot. "frank, what is this rule that says i can use charts and graphs?" he was joking. he never went in the holding room. paul kirk and i went in and use the facilities. there we had to rebuild the floor. these are just little touches. one last one that hurts me. the first town hall meeting was in richmond. at that town on meeting i was seated in the chair of something like this. paul kirk was in the middle. there is a women by the name of pamela who is on our commission. she had a delightful voice. we had in front of us a screen that showed what every television station was showing. president bush looked at his watch every single screen showed it. pamela leaned over to me and said it is over. it turned out she was right. >> is a longtime campaign operatives i always would watch the debates in the holding room with other campaigns that we could keep score. one of the consequences of being an elder statesman as i have to sit with

and waitednd waited and ross perot did not come. so about 15 minutes before we went on air, i hear ross perot. "frank, what is this rule that says i can use charts and graphs?" he was joking. he never went in the holding room. paul kirk and i went in and use the facilities. there we had to rebuild the floor. these are just little touches. one last one that hurts me. the first town hall meeting was in richmond. that town on meeting i was seated in the chair of something like this. paul kirk was in the middle. there is a women by the name of pamela who is on our commission. she had a delightful voice. we had in front of us a screen that showed what every television station was showing. president bush looked at his watch every single screen showed it. pamela leaned over to me and said it is over. it turned out she was right. is a longtime campaign operatives i always would watch the debates in the holding room with other campaigns that we could keep score. one of the consequences of being an elder statesman as i have to sit with this g

does that mean possibly and since i was so involved with that that it's possible for a modern day ross perot to emerge. i guess if you're a billionaire you can i don't think you can do it from the grassroots i think that you know and i remember when ross perot became a name and i think you helped him along that you gave a fair shot a lot of on your program which was you know unusual he didn't get you know the other networks automatic but he got as he got along pretty well but i think it's money talked you know i think it does make a difference if you have the money but i don't think our system lends itself to that if anybody comes to agreeing century with what i'm saying that the parties aren't a whole lot different we don't have much of a democratic process left you know we go overseas saying you're going to be good democrats and you're going to have elections and if you don't elect the right guy we're not going to support them. at the same time you know the competition here getting on ballots and getting credibility and getting in debates it's really pretty difficult and the process contin

the only time because ross perot was involved. we do these on college campuss and normally what happens is they do a draw and one of the candidates ends up 0 oh we do them in gymnasiums usually. and one much them ends up in the men's locker room. that's where they go before the debate and the other goes in the woman's. in 1992, we're at u the u in st. louis. there were three candidates we had to drill a hole in the floor of the basketball arena where it was and build a set there because you had to have restrooms and so forth. in came governor clinton with this guy with books and went in holding room and in came president bush and he went in his hotted his room and we waited and waited and waited and ross perot didn't come. until 15 minutes before we went on air. i hear ross perot who said, what's this rule who can't use charts and graphs. he never went in the holding room. so paul and i went in to use the facilities so we couldn't say it we did for naught. this is just little touches of things that went on. one last one that hurts

enter ross perot.this week to planned parenthood of texas, in a statement perot's wife margo said we are impressed with the work they do, providing, check it out karen, birth control, sciencivically based education, breast health exams and basic life saving health care for women who cannot afford services otherwise. round of applause for margo perot. >> acknowledging that planned parenthood does good things for women's health. and who was behind it? the woman. the wife. >> well but at the same time credit to someone who is seen as a conservative focusing on the good that planned parenthood does in a claimate where they are the focus of so much hate. >> and in a state where they've been so decimated and demonized to be able to kind of go above that and say wait a second, they provide really important services. scientifically based services, even, how about that? i thought that was a sin in the gop to have believe in any kind of science. >> but it is -- >> ross perot is not a republican. he ran as an ind

he did not win a huge proportion of the vote in 1992, because there was a third candidate, ross perotunning, and bill clinton won enough to unseat the incumbent president at the time, he ran to unseat papi bush. he ushered in not just his own presidency, but unified democratic control of washington, democrats controlled the house, the senate and the white house.

community leaders from tom landry to ross perot advocated tearing down the depository and a group of business executives formed organization called dallas onward and pledged over $100,000 to purchase the building and demolish it. ultimately after that dallas city council opposed demolition permits on the building dallas county led by joseph should arrange to purchase the depository as part of a 1977 on the package. after several years of renovations the building was renamed the dallas county administration building housing commissioners court public works and the civil division of the dallas attorney's office. upon its reopening in 1981 he received the texas historical marker and is acknowledged for the first time. the question remains however what do we do with the sixth floor and that is where our story begins today. then that you were chair of the dallas county historical commission with the county built the building. take us back to your first visit to that empty floor and your first reaction when he found out there might be an exhibition on the sixth floor of this building. >> w

he did not win a huge proportion of the vote in 1992, because there was a third candidate, ross perot was running, and bill clinton won enough to unseat the incumbent president at the time, he ran to unseat papi bush. he ushered in not just his own presidency, but unified democratic control of washington, democrats controlled the house, the senate and the white house. and of course, that kind of thing cannot last. and it did not last. because in the first mid-term election that took place after bill clinton got elected president, the democrats just got shallacked, bill clinton won the presidency in 1992, it was 1994 when republicans took more than 50 seats from the democrats in the house. and in so doing, the republican party got control of the house for the first time since 1954. it was a huge loss for the democrats and a huge wins for the republicans. and because it had been so long, it really was a huge sea change in washington, it had been 40 years since they had seen republicans in power in congress. what did they want to do with their new found power? now that they were in contr

than at any time, more than 1992, with ross perot, more than 1994, or 2000 ten with the republicans inress. the american people think that washington doesn't get them, doesn't understand them, passing laws that they don't want to see passed. >> it is amazing. frank, thank you very, very much. again, they came and they went and they all left all the top union leaders, including the afl-cio. don't know what transpired in the white house. they did get their meeting with the president. we're going to keep our eyes on it. i promise you we will. forget all the craziness in this world at this time. i want to share something out of this world from another time. that is happening this time. and i mean way out of this world. ofetting something "new." and now, there's a plan that lets you experience that "new" phone thrill again and again. and again. can you close your new phone box? we're picking up some feedback. introducing verizon edge. the plan that lets you upgrade to a new verizon 4glte phone when you want to. having what you want on the network you rely on. that's powerful. verizon. upgra

he did not win a huge proportion of the vote in 1992, because there was a third candidate, ross perotd bill clinton won enough to unseat the incumbent president at the time, he ran to unseat papi bush. he ushered in not just his own presidency, but unified democratic control of washington, democrats controlled the house, the senate and the white house. and of course, that kind of thing cannot last. and it did not last. because in the first mid-term election that took place after bill clinton got elected president, the democrats just got shallacked, bill clinton won

and even there more and more of the beef and vegetables are important from south of the border ross perot pointed out the stupidity of this in one thousand nine hundred two when he ran for president against george herbert walker bush and bill clinton era furred of that giant sucking sound from the south and it turns out in retrospect he was absolutely right about twenty percent of americans even voted for him for president on that one single issue. and i think today probably even more would vote for. the giant transnational corporations and the billionaires who run them they want free trade they want the american workforce to be living on the edge of poverty it makes it much easier for them to skim billions off the top and to politically disempower working class americans that make more money and working people make less and the supreme court in citizens united decision and so that these billionaires and their corporations they can buy any politician they want so they basically now own everything from the white house to congress to state houses and state capitals around the country to us

talking about the '92 election and why they believe they lost it, because of a personal vendetta that ross perotarrying out against president bush. something bush 41 hasn't talked about on television before. there are lots of revealing moments like that. of course, jack watson, one of the most eloquent of all the chiefs, taking us inside the oval office with jimmy carter during the hostage crisis in 1979. so that's the beauty of the series. >> and jack, the big difference with the presidency from so many other government jobs is that there is simply not enough time for all the legitimate requests and decisions to be made. how did you decide in some sense for the president what decisions to make, who should get in there, how do think really for him? >> well, one -- as i said a moment ago, one of the things the chief needs to do with most assurance is to be an honest broker, to be careful that the president is hearing different opinions. incidentally, sometimes opinions that the chief of staff himself might disagree with. but the objective is to see to it that the president has the full amount and

we waited and waited and waited and ross perot did not come.so about 15 minutes before we went on air, i hear ross perot. "frank, what is this rule that says i can use charts and graphs?" he was joking. he never went in the holding room. paul kirk and i went in and use the facilities. there we had to rebuild the floor. these are just little touches. one last one that hurts me. the first town hall meeting was in richmond. at that town hall meeting, i was seated in the chair of something like this. paul kirk was in the middle. there is a woman by the name of pamela who is on our commission. she had a delightful voice. we had in front of us a screen that showed what every television station was showing. president bush looked at his watch, every single screen showed it. pamela leaned over to me and said it is over. it turned out she was right. >> as a longtime campaign operatives, i always would watch the debates in the holding room with other campaigns that we could keep score. one of the consequences of being an elder statesman as i have to sit w

>> ross perot talking to the naacp in 1992. >> you're talk about your team and it's such a good team and they almost lost. >> those people that don't go to all your high faluten. >> looked like they were losing. >> football was fantastic. >> my only recommendation is don't do the money exchanging things when your team is down 42-21. >> that was a mistake. >> really? that's like the team that's like losing 56-3 and a guy gets a 5 yard run and gets up and pumps his fist especially if you're johnny football and let alabama win the game by throwing key interceptions at every game. red sox? you and i talked at the beginning of the year. i thought they might go .500. you laughed at me. >> it's witness of those years, one of those deals, a karma deal. formidable. >> team. they are really a good team unit. 25 twice. they get along. they like each other. they love baseball. play hard. several of them play multiple positions. last night they had a wonderful ceremony for mariano rivera. >> joe girardi can't win manager of the year unless they win the playoffs. they will get the wild card? >> yo

when someone like ross perot jumps on the scene when he did, people embraced him because he was tellinghe ended up going off the rails but that is besides the point. governor christie became a national figure because no script there, telling people off when he had to, supporting them when he also had to. doesn't that encourage you that there is a pharbt -- market for your beliefs? >> i'm real popular because of these beliefs. i don't care what people think. >>elisabeth: what do you say to parents how to deal when someone attacking their kids? >> you can never legislate bullying out of our society. teach your kids not to be a victim. sticks and stones will break my bones. words will never hurt me. we've heard that growing up. you've got to teach your kids you are not going to play the victim. i can show you kids in wheelchairs with severe disabilities. they are not victims because of the way they have been trained and taught by their parents to not feel like a victim. growing a pair is about an attitude and we can help people develop that attitude. >>steve: you can download his book, go

paleoconservatives, fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, cultural conservatives, we have ross perot conservatives, we have opened the door over the last 40 years to every kind of conservative. it's made our party bigger and more successful and more conservative because we've tolerated points of view. so, i'm not for shutting down the government. for all those reasons. it won't work. the last time it was shut down 20 years ago the congressmen couldn't buy their plane tickets about a being to washington fast enough to open up the government because the voters were absolutely outraged. it would shift the blame for obamacare, which ought to be the referendum in 2014, are you for it or against it, to republicans -- should you shut down the government or not shut down the government? and we shouldn't be in the business of saying i'm a better christian than you are or i'm a better jew than you are, we ought to respect each other's point of view. what should we do? first, mr. president, we ought to delay implementation of the new health care law. and my colleague from tennessee, representat