. >> where was miss rouer, your fiancee? >> she was in the store. >> from the back window of that suv to you, would that be a diagonal straight line? >> yes. >> from you to the front of that gate entrance, would that be a diagonal straight line? >> yes. we were in line. >> if somebody had fired a shotgun from that angle, anybody coming out could be hit? >> that's correct. >> that would include your fiancee? >> right. >> did you even have time to look back to see if miss rower was coming out? >> i did not. >> you don't pull your weapon at this point. you are sitting there. what happens now? >> well, i didn't react to this. i'm just like processing what's going on. this young man in the back seat, the back passenger seat opens his door, he cracked it. he just popped it open. >> could you hear the door unhinge? >> i saw it move just a little bit. >> at that point, you already said you were in fear of your life when he said you're -- >> i was. >> were you still in fear for your life? >> i became even more fearful at that point.

you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? >> yes, i did. >> when? when? >> multiple times. >> you're telling this jury that on the way back to the hotel you told rhonda rouer that the boys in the car had a gun? >> if i told her on the way to the hotel i told her several times at the hotel. i told her several times on the way home that this was self-defense. >> that wasn't my question. >> well, the whole -- the whole conversation revolved around gun, threat. they came out of the car at me. so it wasn't just they had a gun. because when he just had a gun, i didn't shoot him. it wasn't until he made specific threats and got out of his car and came after me. so all of that was part of the conversation. >> okay. from the time you left the gate station to the time you got back to the sheraton, how many times did you use the word "gun" to -- let me finish -- to describe what the boys in the car had. >> i couldn't tell you. >> was it at least one? >> at least one. >> but in a surprise twist, prosecutors called his fiancee back to the stand, and then in a dramatic

rouer was a reluctant witness for the prosecution, sobbing and shaking throughout her testimony that state hopes will put her fiance away for life. she described how after the shooting dunn left and never called for help. that instead they went to this hotel, ordered pizza, and shared more drinks. rouer testified it was her idea to head back to their home in central florida without telling a soul what happened. after seeing the reports of the teenager's death on the news. >> why did you decide that you all needed to go home? >> because i thought i was going to be arrested too. >> reporter: when police did arrest dunn the next day, he told officers he fired in self-defense. >> i was so afraid that i didn't have time to think. i only reacted. >> reporter: that he felt threatened and thought he saw a weapon. >> it was either a barrel or a stick. but sir, there -- they're like, "we're going to kill you." >> reporter: no weapon was ever found in the teenagers' car. still, dunn's attorney says jordan davis was the aggressor and threatened his client. >> "you're dead [ bleep ]." "this is go

. >> dunn's fiancee, rhonda rouer, was in the store.lso testified today. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red s.u.v.? >> no. >> reporter: did the defendant ever tell you that he saw a weapon of any kind in that s.u.v.? >> no. >> reporter: dunn and rouer drove to their nearby hotel and ordered a pizza. he did not call police. >> you're talking about me? >> reporter: and turned himself in only after he learned investigators were looking for him. dunn's testimony today came as a surprise, as the defense rested. scott, the jury could start deliberating tomorrow, and if convicted, dunn faces life in prison. >> pelley: and we will keep following that. manuel, thanks. today, the f.b.i. and italian police busted what they say is a mafia ring that was smuggling cocaine in some ingenious ways. there were seven arrests in new york, 17 in southern italy, where allen pizzey went on the raids. >> reporter: fast-moving convoys of police cars swept into the night in a coordinated series of raids. >> follow the cars, follow the ca

. >> you knew miss rouer was going to get out and go buy wine and chips? >> yes, that's correct. been closest to that sidewalk, right, to walk in the door? >> yes, it was. >> so it would have been the closest even for her to go in the store? >> that's correct. >> at some point, did you hear loud, thumping base? >> yes, i did. >> can you tell the jury what did you see or hear when you pulled into that spot? >> when i pulled into the spot, there was a red suv in the adjacent area, adjacent parking spot. >> do you recall if there were other spots available? >> i don't recall. i think there were some very far away, like extreme left but nothing -- there wasn't anything right on the other side of the suv. it was take this spot next to the door or take the spots that were way far away. >> again, you knew at that point, you were going there to let your fiancee out to go get chips and wine. >> right. just in and out. >> du >>. >> did you have that discussion before you pulled in the gas station? >> i knew she was getting wine. the chips were a surprise. >> in terms of this music, would y

and let me tell you what i am reading here with rhonda rouer, and just like zimmerman's wife found outand boy, she got abused with this guy, and she didn't know that he was so dangerous and violent, and the same thing, and i'm reading it in rhonda rouer, and yes, she is trying to give the al bye as to why they went to the hotel and left the scene, but you can see that this is a woman who is in above her head she realizes with this individual, and see seems like a sweet person, and so she did not bargain for being with a man who has such low impulse control that he is going to end up shooting someone even if he feared for his own life. >> and so even though they are planning, and they were talking about the wedding went off without a hitch, and they had gone to a ed withing and whatever, and you don't think, oh, no, he was in the wrong? is that happening in her head? >> well, she was absolutely surprised when she was in the store and heard the pop, pop, pop, and she was like, what is that? and why did it happen? that is what i keep seeing from her that why did this happen? >> and holly,

dunn says he and rouer stopped at this gas station.noticed thumping music coming from the suv. >> my rear-view mirror was shaking. >> reporter: dunn says he asked the teens to allow we are it. and at first, they did. but then things turned, quote, ugly. he testified he saw the barrel of what he believed was a sgon. >> after the -- the continued tleet of you're dead [ bleep ], now the door opens and this young man gets out. and as his head clears the window frame, he says [ bleep ] going down now. >> reporter: according to dunn, he grabbed his gun and started shooting. nine shots were fired. when rouer came out of the store, they quickly drove off. investigators say they never found a firearm in the suv. >> tell her they had a weapon of any kind? >> yes, i did. >> you did. what did you tell her? tell the jury the term that you used to describe the weapon. >> i don't know what i said, but i told her that they had a weapon, they threatened my life and they -- he advanced upon me. >> reporter: by rouer had a different story. >> did the def

>> actually rhonda rouer. you could tell she was nervous, she was shaking, she was trembling. like she could hardly move. but yet she still got up there and told the truth. >> what was it like inside that deliberation room? >> it was wild. >> wild as -- >> like, it was shouting. there was a lot of yelling. >> did you take an initial vote in terms of where everybody stood? >> we did the next day. everybody had different -- >> everybody was all over the place. >> yeah. >> how many people were on each side? >> initially by friday it was two and ten. we started off saturday morning with a prayer. we all did. >> with a prayer. >> yes. >> what did you pray for? >> we just prayed that everybody had a peace of mind, everybody was open. >> how difficult was it for you to come back into that courtroom knowing that jordan davis's parents were there and that you couldn't agree on a charge related to his death? >> it was hard. we were confident and cool with it. but when he sent us back, we were just like, okay, this is the decision we had to make. when he sent us back we got nervous. we g

you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? when? >> multitypical times. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >>. no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there is no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there is no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there was no mention of a barrel? >> no. >> there was no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> now, this is his girlfriend. she was there. she was inside the gas station when he shot the kid. she immediately came out, left with him, stayed with him the next day. she said he never mentioned a gun. obviously you saw on the tape, he said he mentioned it multiple times. how important is this to a jury? >> i think this was a pivotal point in the trial, and i'm sure that this is something that is being discussed behind closed doors in that jury room, because rhonda rouer came up and said he never, ever mentioned a gun. and if there was a gun pointed at you and you are afraid for your life, and your fiancee comes back and gets in th

he took the stand telling the jury he told his fiancee, rhonda rouer, that he saw a weapon. stand to challenge that. >> did you tell her they had a weapon of any kind? >> yes, i did. >> what did you tell her? >> i don't know what i said but i told her i had a weapon and they threatened my life and he advanced upon me. >> did he ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in the suv? >> no. >> there was no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there was no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there was no mention of a barrel? >> no. >> cnn legal analyst, danny savalis and mark o'mara. is that part of the charge? >> i think dunn was his own best witness and the fiancee was the state's best witness. they have to convince this jury they should not believe anything that dunn says. if they don't believe what dunn says, they can sort of build this question as to whether or not he acted reasonably. we know he didn't act reasonably afterwards by not calling the cops. they need to back that up and say he didn't act reasonably by taking shots. dunn couldn't come up with a good answer. he needs to exp

. >> reporter: giving his son the same jailhouse account he gave fiance rhonda rouer. >> it was a meion. >> reporter: and later a jury. >> it wasn't just my life i was worried about now. >> reporter: that jury wasn't able to reach a verdict on the charge of murdering davis. it stunned dunn with a conviction on three counts of attempted second-degree murder. charges he was sure he would beat. >> it will work out. i have high confidence that it will work out. if it even goes to trial, once they see all the evidence. >> reporter: so what's next for michael dunn? the sentencing hearing for the three attempted second-degree murder convictions could come as early as late march. a retrial date for the first-degree murder charges of jordan davis could come in may. dan and bianna? >> it's amazing to hear his confidence on those tapes. reena, thank you. >>> meantime, let's go to ron claiborne with the other stories developing this half hour. hey, ron. >> hi, again, bianna and dan. good morning, again, everyone. >>> history at the vatican the. retired pope benedict xvi joining pope francis. an

. >> rhonda rouer, talking about thug music, four black teenagers, and the defendant himself has had choice words to describe the african-american community, at least in the jail where he has been held since all of this happened. my next guest has a lot to say about that. he's a prominent pastor at a local church here, and he has spoken very specifically, not just about this particular case, but the circumstance we find ourselves in jacks well. before the break, i mentioned the 1960s ax handle saturday. so many african-americans were beaten by white men. they were protesting for civil rights. >> yes. >> and, you know, the white men were having no part of it. >> yes. >> here we are, 2014. is it still prominently in the memories of people? is that the prism through which they're watching this trial or more watching through the sfwlirm zimmerman case? >> i think primarily through the prism of the zimmerman case, but i to think ax handle saturday still lives large and looms large. >> horrible name. >> i think if we don't put that name on it, people won't take it as seriously as it needs

quote, dunn never told rouer he saw a gun in the suv. he later told police he saw a shotgun.n. nobody. >> right. >> does this mean dunn has to testify? >> oh, i think he has to testify. because he has to say that he was in fear for his life whom. else is going to say that at this point it? has to be him. and i think in order for it to be enough to justify this killing, he has to put a weapon in those kids' hands. he is the only person who can do that. but the fact that she said that in her deposition, that he never mentioned a gun to her is so compelling here. >> people need to understand she was in the car with him, had got out and went in the store, and the shooting happened when she was in the store. she came back and got in the car with him and they pull off. he never told her he shot at them because he saw a gun. he told her he shot at them. >> nothing about what they did after the shooting says this man was a victim of a crime and had to act in self-defense, including the story about the gun didn't come up until after he was caught, after the police caught him. he never

you used the word "gun" with rhonda rouer >> yes, i did. >> when? >> multiple times. >> so i mean that's pretty crucial, sunny. he says multiple times he said "gun" to his fiancee and she says he never said it. >> that's right. it goes to the heart of this case. for the jury to find that he acted in self-defense with this justifiable use of force, they have to believe that he saw a gun. now, if he really saw a gun and fired in self-defense, the minute he got into that car wouldn't he have said to his fiancee, oh, my gosh, someone just tried to kill me, they had a gun, a barrel of a shotgun pointed at me? well, he says he did say that but she said no, he never said it on the way to the hotel room. he never said it on the way back home. he just never said it. i have to agree with mark, which i never do, i really think that she was the pivotal witness, the star witness really for the prosecution in this case. >> also if you're concerned -- >> it's so perplexing, they know -- the defense knows what she's going to say. it's not like it's a surprise. you'

. >> you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? >> yes, i did. >> when? when? >> multiple times. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there is no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there is no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there is no mention of a barr barrel? >> no. >> there is no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> faith, they have seen all of this, the contradictory. that was a moment all of you had chosen as a key moment. what does the fact that they are there, working into the night tonight, unlike last night where they went back to the hotel for dinner. they sent for dinner. what does this tell us that they're working late tonight? >> i mean, there is obviously a divide among the jurors on one of the crimes that he is charged with. and when you lock at that testimony, for me, that makes this issue so clear. when michael dunn did not tell his fiancee that there was any weapon of any kind, no gun, no stick, he didn't mistakenly think that he s

. >> isn't it true he called you to see if he and rhonda rouer could go out that night and your answer was no, rhonda wasn't feeling well. >> i don't recall that conversation. >> you never said big about wanting to talk to him? >> yes, i did. i asked if he was going to be home. that i had something i wanted to talk to him about. >> that's all i have. >> judge, can i have just one moment, please? >> yes, your honor. >> very quickly, are you the custodian of that call loug? >> no, i'm not. >> is it clear there are other numbers that aren't your number? >> yes. >> is it possible the calling party is the call you actually called? >> objection. >> sustained. >> again, do you know how to read that call log? >> no. >> do you work for the phone company? >> no. >> do you even have a 904 number? >> no. >> is there a 904 number where mr. guy refreshed your recollection? >> yes, there was. >> do you know where that number came from? >> no. >> can you look at the top the page and tell me what it says on that report? >> i don't have in t anywhere. >> if i can approach mr. dunn? >> yes, sir. >> can y

rouer's testimony was quite damaging. >> i think it was damaging.ckson can tell similar stories. you are always worried that the fiancee or the wife or some close relative who has information might get forced on to the witness stand. if they go against your client, the defendant, it is really tough. we have to throw in one other thing. the defense attorney tried to attack her or i shouldn't say attack her. to use her to help mr. dunn by saying when they fled and went to st. augustine for the pizza, mr. dunn went to a bed and breakfast place after the shooting in a very uncharacteristic move by somebody who has just killed a human being. they ordered pizza and remained there. she took the full blame saying she insisted that they stay there. as bad as she was for the defense, at least the defense attorney got something out of her that i think he will try to use in his summation later on. >> still, joey, it was disturbing. after the shooting goes down, they go to this bed and breakfast and order a pizza. they don't call the police at all. even if she s

during a conversation between michael dunn and his fiancee, rhonda rouer, reported shortly after his november of 2012, dunn talks of being victimized and complains about being housed alone in a cell. >> i was thinking about that today, i was thinking, i'm the [ muted ] victim here. i was the one who was victimized. i don't know how else to put it, like, they attacked me. i'm the victim. >> right. >> i'm the victor, but i was the victim too. i guess it would be better than being in a room with them animals. >> saturday night, michael dunn was found guilty on four of five counts, but the jury deadlocked on the most significant charge, first-degree murder and the death of jordan davis. let me bring in former federal inmate, larry levine, founder and director of wall street prison consultants. larry, welcome to be back. >> glad to be with you, brooke. >> here's what i'm wondering, larry, i'm wondering if prisoners, these so-called animals to whom dunn refers, if they would even know who michael dunn is. how closely do people behind bars actually follow the news? >> you do. you've got a l

. >> that was rhonda rouer, the girlfriend of michael dunn, testifying to the opinion of the, quote,sic playing in the car where jordan davis was sitting with his friends. and this was dunn's attorney, cory thohla making his argument. >> you know who didn't duck? jordan davis. you know why he didn't duck? because he was getting out of the car with a weapon, after telling michael dunn, you're dead [ bleep ]. this is going down now. you have four men against one. >> those are some of the moments during the trial, when racial overtones may have seemed readily apparent in a case where a white man was accused of killing an frafrican-american teen. and yet the question of race was not expressly evoked in the case. we have lisa bloom and with me in the studio are jelani cobb with the university of connecticu connecticut, and the executive director of the metropolitan center for urban education. rincu sen, the executive president of the race forward, and publisher of colorlines.com, and michael denzel smith, a writer for the nation.com and a nobler fellow at the nation institute. so i want t