rubio, i'm going to have you have a seat in this chair here. >> -- rubio must face the disciplinary boarder or not to give him further sanctions for the assault. >> mr. rubio, how do you plead? >> no contest. >> you do not wish to plead your case whatsoever? >> i didn't do it. that's it. can you tell me who wrote that report, what officers were in there? >> officer martinez wrote the report. captain barabas also followed up on it. >> so he went and saw this? >> are you going to let me finish what i said? >> go ahead. >> as the hearing continues, rubio asks several technical questions about the report and questions the credibility of the disciplinary board itself. >> okay. what other -- >> i'm going to conclude what you're saying because you're just running around in circles right now. >> [ bleep ]. >> do you have any questions or concerns -- >> [ bleep ] your hearing. that's what i feel like. go ahead and give me the 30 days lockdown. >> go ahead. we're done. well, you know what? we're done. so go ahead and stand up. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. you know you all are [ bleep ] anyway. >> i mea

carroll: i think it is rubio. this recent poll shows among caucus-goers that he is everyone 's second-best choice. the campaign is bolstered by those numbers. he hasn't spent as most time there as the other people. he hasn't had a dazzling moment. this could potentially be a moment for him. this event seems tailor-made for walker. he actually rides a harley. mark: they are giving eight minute talks. for voters looking for the young new thing, the rubio-walker side-by-side will be a big deal. the other person who has a lot on the line is carly. she is getting great buzz but if you look at our poll, she is not budging. you would think all of this buzz would lead to higher polls, she hasn't gotten any. time is running out for her. she needs to move. carroll: attention, bipartisan unity announcement. democrats and republicans and i owa, next year's caucus results will be reported and tabulated into a central " mobile enabled cloud-based platform." that promises accurate and secure reporting. the mobile apps use window

[applause] senator rubio: and one more thing -- and one more thing. one more thing we cannot say today. if i am blessed with the opportunity to be the president of the united states, our relationship with israel will be clear and unequivocal for the world to see. and here's what it will be. here's what the world will know. that if i am president, this country will do whatever it takes to help the people of israel survive and prosper as a jewish state. [applause] senator rubio: and last but not least, today we see an erosion in our culture and in our values. yesterday's ideas that somehow the government could replace the family has failed miserably as we knew it would. but if i am blessed with the opportunity to be president, we will have someone in the white house who understands that you cannot have a strong country without strong people. you cannot have strong people without strong families. and you cannot have strong families with a government that strong arms parents and our faith. [applause] senator rubio: we will have a president, if i am blesse

marco rubio story was on the front page. we remember it happened to al gore when he moved his campaign down to tennessee. john kerry had to shake up his campaign in 2006. >> ronald reagan fired his campaign manager on the day of the 1980 new hampshire primary. >> i think this is a way to try to attack jeb bush who one of his things is being a governor and executive. >> jeb bush insider told me what happened here is because he's a bush and was expected to raise a lot of money, the media inflated expectations saying jeb bush would be a dominant front runner and blow everyone out of the water and when that didn't happen, the same media criticized the campaign for not meeting expectations set by the press. your thoughts? >> i think the point is the environment is completely different from jeb bush as it with a for his brother when he ran. in '99, george w. had 114 house republicans supporting and publicly his campaign. jeb bush has no public support from any house republican. >> understood. he doesn't have that but do you find s

rubio was earning large sums.entive accounting that lead to years of unpaid government fees. slamming the report as an attack rubio has indeed paid off $150,000 in student loans and only has a single debt now, his mortgage. let's talk about this. welcome gentlemen. >> morning. >> glad to be here. >> so ben, senator rubio would be running for president. why is he shocked a newspaper might look into his finances? >> because it's one of the most embarrassing hit pieces i've seen on a candidate. basically i'm a guy that went to college, took out a lot of debt am not privileged have built my own career. i've never filed bankruptcy. i've never not paid a bill. there's nothing about me doing things that were shady in business. literally the attack is you're a young man who paid off his student loan debt far before it was ever due in real life. i think that's a success story. all it does is help him with a story of look i'm not a multimillionaire candidate. i didn't get massive speaking fees. and i didn't have a bunch of

at least rubio has a boat to show for it.w york times" is wasting time treating inconsequential gossip like this. a reporter felt different. >> your life is open to public scrutiny. this is kind of the game, right? it's a game. what's "the new york times" going to do, exercise editorial control? no. it's like t eir motto says don't hate the paper, hate the game. they forget what a story like that turns into on the tv. >> splurging on luxury items? get a peek inside marco rubio's bank book. do his past money troubles matter? >> wow. suddenly the man who paid off his student loans and got a boat is printing counterfeit hundreds in his basement. [laughter] i mean, he can't do it in his living room not with those huge [bleep] windows. we'll be right back. sometimes the present looked bright. sometimes romantic. there were tears in my eyes. and tears in my eyes. and so many little things that we learned were really the biggest things. through it all, we saved and had a retirement plan. and someone who listened and helped us along

and rubio, we'll talk about him later.s the shooting star, but nobody knows what he looks like in a police line-up. they're looking for anybody they don't know, because the ones boring. trump ain't. your thoughts. >> like yours. first of all i'll dust off my guccis. the problem is this guy is a magnet for -- >> have you read all the books behind you, or is that just for show? >> most of them i have. i haven't looked at them since college, i have to admit. so -- anyway so the thing about this is this is a great media story. and he's incredibly quotable. and he's going to get some votes, because a lot of people on both sides of the aisle are angry and they like somebody who's going to stir things up. he's going to stir things up. i think that could disrupt the field. don't forget during the show in 2012 donald trump led the polls for a couple of weeks in terms of who the republicans wanted for president. so a lot of stuff could happen. it's probably not too good for the republican party. >> i don't think so either. i think t

scott walker is afraid of marco rubio in iowa. jeb bush is afraid of marco rubio everywhere. they're all going to pile on him. john edwards was that "it" guy in '03 in the democrats and he couldn't take it. he sort of crumbled. >> the good news is that the stage is so full i'm going to be participating in some of these debates. no one can train all of their force on anyone or they'll be sabotaged by another. they'll have to step up for themselves. that actually advantages walker and rubio to a certain extent because they have the most to lose from being attacked negatively and this is not a field in which people can afford to attack too much. >> and the other thing is if anybody gets attacked it's jeb that's probably going to get the most attacks, whether he likes it or not. >> $100 million does that. >> it's a pleasure. your book is "the queen." you swear there's real advise. >> a little bit. >> that's all for this conversation today. you can of course find this and past episodes on our website. we'll be back next week. now stay tuned for president obama's weekly address, ri

there's a lot of danger here, i think, for marco rubio. john: -- mark: people should not treat this like an indictment. it's totally legitimate to look at a candidate's finances particularly someone like marco rubio who has lived an unorthodox life. but they had new details and there are more to come and more requests for public documents, and some things that are not adding up our being looked at more. i think people on rubio's side turn to say this is an illegitimate story or does not matter to be president -- first of all, the reality is it's going to be looked at. second, these are perfectly legitimate questions. john: we will talk about the defense rubio's campaign is putting forward any moment. but i've got to say, you think about the things that a lot of voters will wonder about -- there are a couple of instances in this story. these come up again. i think voters will wonder about them. the houses he bought with no money down. how he got those mortgages. there are questions. [bell rings] mark: it answers one question. a guy who talk

at least rubio has a boat to show for it.imes" is wasting time treating inconsequential gossip like this. a reporter felt different. >> your life is open to public scrutiny. this is kind of the game, right? it's a game. what's "the new york times" going to do, exercise editorial control? no. it's like t eir motto says don't hate the paper, hate the game. they forget what a story like that turns into on the tv. >> splurging on luxury items? get a peek inside marco rubio's bank book. do his past money troubles matter? >> wow. suddenly the man who paid off his student loans and got a boat is printing counterfeit hundreds in his basement. [laughter] i mean, he can't do it in his living room not with those huge [bleep] windows. we'll be right back. when we created the silverado rally edition we figured, why stop there? these four new silverado special editions are just the beginning. from this year's fastest growing full-size truck brand chevy silverado or, choose this silverado all star with a total value of eight thousand when y

for rubio. and he's had his wife on the payroll.not even talking about scandals or skeletons. >> i like the way you throw word scandals out. >> i would agree with david a little bit. and i think you're right about hillary clinton. i think a couple of the republicans, you have to say have some upicide potential if they can make the sale and i think marco rubio is the one that the hillary crowd is most concerned with. >> he's the shooting star. anyway, the round table is staying with us and up next why i'm calling marco rubio the steph curry of the republican field. i've never seen shooting like that. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medi

marco rubio is someone we know he likes. know that he likes john kasich an awful lot, the kind of governor he would like to get behind, especially if the party rallies behind kasich. mark: there is no clear front-runner. people are kicking the tires. there will be jeb bush people here, but a lot of people are still sorting out -- is it rubio, is it case it. -- kasich. but they need someone who can win back the white house. who can beat hillary clinton? that remains the big thing. the washington post is your source today for jeb bush turbulence news. there is already factions drama. and also "donor fetching," as we say in utah. is this a curve awful or a crisis? john: there is no doubt that the reporting makes it seem closer to a crisis than i thought it was, but i still think this is more turbulence span crisis. jeb bush seems to be taking control of it enough. the biggest problems he faces are not staffed problems, but jeb bush problems. things that the candidate needs to resolve for himself, that staff has almost nothing t

that will blow the chinos right off the rubio campaign. >> after a publisher paid rubio $800,000 to write a book in 2012 the senator paid off $100,000 in law school loans. >> you [ bleep ], paying off law school loans, how dare you. those may not seem like particularly extravagant expenses worthy of a "new york times" front page cover story, but it's a slippery house. it won't be long before the rubios are splurging on a whole house. i can't think of a single person that would be bothered by it. >> this was after a report that both rubio and his wife got tickets from the police. like everybody else. now to highlight just how bad this smear job really was, we decided to have a little fun with this. we have brought in the one and only robin leach, a man who knows a thing or two about lifestyles of the rich and famous. the a reading of the most ridiculous parts of this article. let's watch this. >> in speeches mr. rubio, a florida republican spoke of his prudent plan for using the cash to finally pay off his law school loans. expressing relief that he no longer owed a lady named sallie mae,

>> rubio spokesman told me that the story is absurd and attacks rubio for not being rich. and top adviser todd harris me the times is being elitist for describing rubio's student debt as a financial hole of his own making. now, all candidates are subject to scrutiny for their financial affairs of course. but what undercut this story a little bit is that it followed another "new york times" report bret about rubio receiving four traffic tickets in 17 years. a matter so trivial it drew a lot of mockery online. >> howard thank you. >>> national insecurity. bomb threats at the white house and the capitol today and major problems with the tsa. we'll talk about it all with the panel when we come back. ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands... ...this isn't that car. the first and only car with direct adaptive steering. ♪ the 328 horsepower q50 from infiniti. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor h

we will talk about the walker-rubio ticket.nd then john sits down with rick santorum in the studio. it all happens after this word with our sponsors. ♪ mark: here at the romney romp in deer valley, i spoke with scott walker earlier today. i asked if he thought about joining forces with marco rubio. we started out on resonant obama -- president obama's decision to send more troops to iraq to defeat isis. >> it is good to the president acknowledge there needs to be more help. until they start lifting some of the research and -- some of the restrictions. we only have 3000 troops, so that is certainly a good thing but we need to drop restrictions. you have air controllers who could be doing a job to help the sunnis, kurds, and others. we need to lift restrictions. mark: would it be smarter, rather than doing it incrementally, to put in a significant amount of troops? governor walker: it is about making sure any conflicts you are engaged in -- military insiders should be looking at that exact kind of thing. -- military advisers shou

rubio fue parte de este grupo de 8 senadores bi-partidista que propuso en el senado una propuesta aeste mismo senador se echÓ para atras, que asÍ no deberia presentarse una reforma migratoria, el ex gobernador jeb bush ha escrito un libro diciendo en el pasado que para la comunidad indocumentada serÍa bueno la lesiÓn legislaciÓn y nunca la ciudadanÍa ¿ cuÁl es la situaciÓn favorable para los latinos? >>> es muy importante que hablemos aquÍ muy seriamente, la razÓn de que pudimos hablar por una reforma migratoria puede bid al senad al seno fue debido al senador marco rubio, de lo que es el daca que el presidente hizo una orden ejecutiva, pero marco rubio el senador iba a ser una ley, los demÓcratas y ciertamente la senadora clinton no han hecho nada, por inmigraciÓn. y el presidente cuando tuvo la oportunidad decidiÓ hacer otras cosas. ahora el gobernador jeb bush Él dijo y lo dijo claramente, sin discusiÓn, cuando Él sea presidente Él primeramente lo que va a ser es quitar esa orden ejecutiva y hacerlo una ley para todos aquellos jÓvenes, niÑos, que llegaron aquÍ sin culpa de ellos

i don't think rubio has had troubles.o's financial troubles were alleviated in part by a billionaire donor who helped them get past that and it's very odd to see a presidential candidate with that kind of billionaire help push for cuts of the social safety net. the fact that the guy isn't great with money. abraham lincoln wasn't good with money. i'm not saying -- you. >> wrote about this that marco rubio was given a second chance. and he wants to build a country where people aren't given a second chance in the form of block granting food assistance and housing assistance. ending the capital gains taxes ending the estate taxes for heirs and heiresses. that leaves a hole. >> that's what troubles me that rubio sort of has been given a second chance. it may be -- if that's tu strong, has at least had his finances bolstered, and the kinds of programs we have to do that for ordinary americans. rubio wants to slash for the sake of upper income tax cuts. for me that's the big problem with this. the fact that he bought a boat who

it's marco rubio.hink it might be by design feeling that they're actually trying to create more of -- there's folks in the leadership that might not be espousing jeb bush. he's had a lot of slippery steps and the official campaign hasn't even started. people are looking for a good number too, and rubio seems to be that person that can bring out the tea party but do mainstream politics. >> maria teresa kumar and ryan grim, thank you for your time. have a good weekend. >> thank you, reverend. >> the next big thing in the gop, obama care truthers. they think the law's not work. we have a real estatality check. also the activist accused of misrepresenting her race. l day. and now, i'm back! aleve. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic a moment spontaneoue to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to

>> rubio spokesman told me that the story is absurd and attacks rubio for not being rich. and top adviser todd harris added telling me the times is being elitist for describing rubio's student debt as a financial hole of his own making. now, all candidates are subject to scrutiny for their financial affairs of course. but what undercut this story a little bit is that it followed another "new york times" report bret about rubio receiving four traffic tickets in 17 years. a matter so trivial it drew a lot of mockery online. >> howard thank you. >>> national insecurity. bomb threats at the white house and the capitol today and major problems with the tsa. we'll talk about it all with the panel when we come bac'd you ever learn ♪ ♪ to fight without saying a word? ♪ ♪ then waltz back into my life ♪ ♪ like it's all gonna be all right ♪ ♪ don't you know how much it hurts? ♪ ♪ when we don't talk ♪ ♪ when we don't touch ♪ ♪ when it doesn't feel like we're even in love ♪ ♪ it matters to me ♪ ♪ when i don't know what to say ♪ ♪ don't know what to do ♪ ♪ don't know if it really even m

>> i don't begrudge marco rubio.y reids and the other hundreds of senators and congress people who make 174 grand a year and end up with $53 million by the time they leave. >> like the presidents of mexico. >> whatever. >> i would say this helps rubio but with another reason. these stories were going to come out, anyway. better to have it now in june of 2015 when nobody is really paying attention to the election by the time the election actually comes around if he's still in the contest this will be old news. >> but this is all they got? shows he's one they're concerned about. >> a little bit of boredom and laziness on behalf of the media, yes. >> so with no one's perfect for rubio it's finance. for bill clinton it's no pants. fishing boat in terms of water offenses that's not chappaquiddick. he's the perfect anti-politician. he didn't try to fix his tickets and didn't try to get any sweetheart loans in order to pay off stuff, unlike obama rubio has no tony rezco, long time political benefactor that helps you out. th

ladies and gentlemen senator marco rubio. [applause] senator rubio: thank you. thank you. thank you. it is an honor to be with you here again today. a great turnout. i appreciate it very much. am i the first speaker at the event? good. well, i'm glad to do the kickoff. it's great to be with you. and a real honor to be with all of you as we look forward to 2016 and the challenges before our country. so as kellyanne mentioned, about two months ago i announced -- about nine weeks ago, to be frank, i said i was running for president and i traveled the country extensively. something i will -- i will see something that reminds me of my parents. today, it's easy. i'm in a hotel banquet room, which is what my father did for many years as a bartender. and i always open my speeches with that because it's a reminder to me and hopefully to my audience, the opportunities that i've had have been directly the result of what they sought in my family. they were born in cuba, born into societies like most societies in the world where your future depends largely what your parents did before

or senator rubio. >> i represent them both. they are both constituents. marco lives in west miami. jeb lives in coral gables. when we to pick one. jeb was my first campaign architect when i ran for congress back in the civil war. and marco rubio was one of my first interns when i got to congress. i have a big affiliation with both of them. but, jeb has the chief executive officer experience as governor of a vast diverse state like florida to do the job as commander and chief from day one. so experience was the leading factor for me. >> all right com. you are brand new to congress. had you to make a big decision. what about you and why today to make announcement for who you were endorsing. >> well, i wanted to be very respectful to both jeb bush and marco rubio. i have great respect for both of them. but for me, greta, when you look back at these six and a half years, president obama and the white house i think what has been most evident is the lack of executive experience, the lack of that decision-making ability that is so imp

but that is fair because it's a possibility that marco rubio could be facing off against marco rubio.yes, sirjess, your thoughts. >> of course he does. that's what he has. we have had the clintons on the public stage for 30 years. we've gone through pretty much every iota of hillary clinton's finances and found absolutely nothing wrong there. so they can keep pointing to new questions that they want to raise or new e-mails that they want to see or a new dollar that they want to dissect, but the bottom line is that voters will care about what agenda a presidential candidate is putting forward, so we can take away any of the financial considerations and talk about how mukarco rubio can't do anything and hillary clinton has a really great plan. >> i don't know how you can say that with a straight face. it's the gold standard of individuals who look at foundations and say the clinton foundation should not be a clarity because they give out more than 90% of the money not to charitable push of purposes but for their own purposes. so it's not a republican thing. and again marco rubioof purpo

so marco rubio had a bad day. also today was not a great day for the serving governor of new jersey chris christie. part of the reason chris christie had a tough day is this letter from the u.s. attorney from the state of new jersey, federal prosecutor in that state, in this letter the prosecutor basically clears the way for a new, green lit today but the u.s. attorney in new jersey, it potentially opens up a whole new world of information that nobody had success to before about what happened in the bridge shut down, i mean, those criminal trials in the bridge gate thing were already going to be looming throughout most of the most important time that chris christie will be trying to run for president with this new development today. those trial wills have access to more insider stuff from the christie administration than we ever thought we would get to see. that is the not good news for chris christie today. it's the kind of good news that means he's going to have lots more not good news for months and months to c

rubio himself only had four citations.o fund-raised off the new york times stories, casting himself's relatable man of the people who struggled with student loans and asking supporters to help marco fight back against the elitist liberal media. it was almost enough to make me wonder if the florida senator has a plant at the paper of record churning out hit pieces really designed to make him look good. joining me now, conservative miami herald columnist a.j. delgado who unlike me thinks rubio's finances are very much a legitimate story. i'm in the -- i was basically found myself in strange company in the wake of this piece because i was basically in the this is a nothing burger and not just a nothing burger, a snobbily judgmental nothing burger in tone. you think it is legit? >> we're in the twilight zone on you defending rubio and i'm criticizing him. if somebody is running for the republican party nomination, which theoretically one of the tenets is fiscal responsibility of my party, right? we do have the right to ask que

thank you for having me. >> in a way, the rubios got tickets. if you went and checked out my record i used to speed. i'm a more careful driver in my older age. i had tickets, too. and then i hate -- i don't want to diminish the size of their boat but that isn't really a luxurious speedboat to me. >> i think marco was surprised when he woke up and read in the new york times that he now owned a luxury speedboat. >> they're after you guys. >> yeah. we take these attacks very seriously as we need to. clearly the new york times has an agenda. they're trying to make him out to be something other than he is. here are the facts. he did not inherit any wealth. he took out student loans to go to college and then law school. he has since paid off those students loans. he has contributed nearly $150,000 to charity in recent years. he puts his kids to christian private schools in the miami area. he only has one debt in the world and that's his home mortgage. he is not rich. but he is not dead broke as hillary might say either. he considers himself very bless

john: what is marco rubio solving for?: the rubio campaign is making a big deal about doing this on the cheap. they seem to have a leaner campaign and fewer staff. they have hired a firm whose specialty is running randomized experiments. but the way they sell itself is basically an auditing firm. they sell themselves that they can hold them accountable. s -- for small staff. they think that randomized experiments can be a way to measure whether it is effective. john: what they are solving for is? sasha: how to spend less money. but better. john: running a leaner, meaner operation. sasha: the least sexy but most widely valuable application of the analytics in the campaign is to cut waste. if you can figure out how to be 20% more efficient with your phone calls or direct mail that is cutting out people that might already be voting for you. many can focus on those who might be for his opponent. john: like jeb bush. sasha: his big challenge is not necessarily running a campaign on the cheap, but understanding he will have to p

bush he is going to say marco rubio lacks experience and not withstanding the appeal rubio has from cuban americans jeb bush will point out his wife is a mexican woman he met many yours ago so he has two mexican american kids and fans him as -- himself as an honorary latino in florida, where they call this the biggest local political operation in history. >> we'll be right back there for every word of the "i'm in" speech. lea gabrielle is on the deck. >> we're talking about polls right now and of course as you and ryan mentioned everything within the margin of error but jeb bush leading a lot of. the. let's look at the real clear politics. this is the average of polls showing bush at 10.8%. his lead is just 2% over scott walker but ahead of all other republican contenders. looking how they compare to hillary clinton that's a different story. clinton leads every republican contender in the real clear politics averages of head-to-head matchups. the numbers sew rand paul trailing clinton by the slimmest of margins 2.8%. marco rubio trails clip top by 4.2 temperatures, and mike huckabee with

here's why that matters to marco rubio."een a speedboat and a fishing boat why is that distinction important and which is this boat? >> well, i thought the piece was fine. i disagreed with jon stewart except for that one piece where they said this is a speedboat. that is a disqualifying fact about marco rubio, if it was true. >> speedboat ownership would disqualify you from the presidency of the united states? >> it disqualifies you from civilized society, let alone the white house. nobody who owns a speedboat belongs near decent people and they know it. but it turned out that he was not riding a speedboat. >> that's a speedboat just for the record. they're incredibly loud they go very fast they guzzle fuel. they're seen as kind of scourges of the sea to anyone else who is operating in the open water. >> right. and i actually reported my assertion out. it's always been my belief -- we'll call them jerks since this is a family show but it's always my opinion that people riding around in these poetboats are jerks. >> yes, basi

rubio can make inroads there. when you look at jeb bush, he will have the traditional old waspy kind of republican there. there are still a few of those around. christie will also have something. he relates to the rough and ready kind of guy. he came and campaign for the republican governor. he has got that personality that people could catch on to. i think it will be between rubio and bush. mark: does the fact that jeb bush has had -- been able to raise money is not doing well in the polls nationally surprise you? buddy: you have a father and a brother who had been president that should not be too tough to raise money. that is the family business, but that does not mean he has the nomination. george w. bush said that when he announced for president, he said that he had all of his father's enemies and half of his father's friends. bush will be an outstanding money raiser on the republican side. there is no question about that. that does not mean that other candidates cannot tap into that well that is out there. th

rubio is officially declared candidate. like bush he is in the top tier of the polls, basically pretty much a three-way tie between bush, walker, marco rubio. scott walker governor of wisconsin. in the case of rubio these two have been mentor and protege for many many years. now they find themselves as rivals. rubio makes argument it is time for new blood. perhaps, jeb, his friend is part of the last generation of leaders. he argues it is time for new face and he would represent that. not today but bush campaign will make the observation that marco rubio is freshman senator. the country experimented with a freshman senator not all that popular in many republican minds with barack obama. they will argue that the country does not lead a legislator. they need a leader. he has executive experience, bringing that jeb bush, former governor of florida to announce here in a few hours. jenna: we'll look forward to that carl, thank you very much. >> on the other side hillary clinton is taking her campaign to the road this morning. th

i don't know if any of this is actually hurting marco rubio's campaign. i wouldn't be surprised if marco rubio is send evening mails trying to raise money off of it. >> what the "times" is referring to is that getting rich is not what has driven senator rubio's financial decisions. his goal is to provide his four children with a good home quality education and safe and happy upbringing. the times he brings up more than a few times he's run into financial hurdles as with as many folks. that he tapped his 401(k) when he urgently needed some money. we can assume that was for education. what are we to make of it? >> my view is almost nothing is off the record or out of bounds if you're running for president. so i don't have a problem with the "the new york times" writing a story on marco rubio. >> anything is fair game. >> yep. >> but i will say, it should be fair game for everybody and everything. >> if you actually look at the way they treated barack obama when he was running for president. he wasn't super rich and had problems of his own. they almost paint

. >> you look at marco rubio who brings a lot of the same positive things that geraldo, you like about jeb, increased immigration. he also has the latino background. he's hispanic as well. more likable problem. you have rand paul who brings something new, tom. we have 310 million people in this country who will end up with a bush and a clinton. >> a hillary and a jeb. they're not a bush and a clinton. they're a hillary and a jeb. >> we're going to talk about the white woman who opposed the black woman later in the program. i think jeb bush in some ways is more latino than marco rubio. i think his spanish is just as good. cubans are a small splinter of the broader democratic latino community.

i gave marco rubio a boost this week. $50 on marco rubio. 30 on scott walker. 15 on jeb bush and 5 on cruz. look, i think marco rubio benefits not only because the "new york times" tried to go after him twice this week and missed, and missed badly particularly in the one story about his traffic ticket but also, you saw conservatives rally to his defense in a way that is hard to imagine them doing for a lot of other candidates. probably they would do it for scott walker. i would think he would see the same kind of defense. would they do it for jeb bush? would they do it for a chris christie. >> scott walker is he the winner out in utah. >> could be. gives a speech, flag football that rubio team is putting out. >> kasich is controlling for money to. >> i still think being a governor is going to be very important when you talk to voters out there that's what they want to see. they hate washington. even though the republicans that are here, they don't like the fact that they're from washington. >> we will invite all of them to center seat with the is it for this panel. stay tuned how it c

from looking in the room, the reaction, marco rubio got the best reception and held people the best. weekends have -- we still have more. the undecided people impressed by different aspects of different potential candidates. john: i can't tell anything except reading the transcripts and the notes in hearing from you.

it's a mor coe rubio moment.moment and then they ultimately settle with the guy seemed the obvious one to start with. this could be different. this could be the time of marco rubio takes off here but we have seen saw it in rubio's announcement speech and all of them. they want to position themselves as the one when's going mano-o-mano with hillary clinton now. >> as it were. >> as it were. >> yes, indeed. indeed. and it is an incredibly unique field, uniquely flat obviously, unique in just the shear number of candidates and the number of candidates viable. >> yes. >> one thing that many have pointed out here today, it is interesting jeb chose as a logo just jeb with the exclamation point and dropping the bush last name. mom is there. dad and brother are not there. at the announcement. how much is the bush name still an issue for him? >> i think it's going to be a greater issue if he's the nominee and the general election. if you talk to any democrats and, you know they still look at bush's legacy as president and