rudy?orning after the 2016 presidential election, if you're rudy giuliani, and donald trump had just been elected president of united states, you're feeling that there's tons of opportunity ahead. - what's your role expected to be? - i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice. donald's been my friend for 28 years. all of my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. - whatever rudy wants, rudy gets, because he was the guy who stood by trump. - whatever he said, bill clinton did much worse. - his top pick is secretary of state. - so is this true? you want to be secretary of state? - [laughs] whatever i want to be, i'll discuss with the president-elect. - rudy has developed a network of contacts in countries across the world in the wake of 9/11 and his geopolitical rock star status where he's treated almost like an ex-president as he travels around the world. - i think he thought being secretary of state would be a good way to stay in the game. - you're

, rudy, rudy, rudy!for the city of new york, rudolph william giuliani! - i'm standing before you as the next mayor of new york city. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ - rudy loved being mayor. it was the perfect job for him. he loved running things and managing things. - mayor of new york, they say, is the second hardest job in american politics. the new york city press corps? i mean, that is, like, a glaring spotlight the way it is when you sit in the oval office and you have the entire national and international press corps. i mean, it's only second to that. - he came in, and there was a huge budget deficit, which was over $2 billion. - our budget is painful but necessary medicine. - hundreds of millions of dollars less to the mta for subways and transit. health and hospitals, cut. everything is slashed. - he lived up to his campaign promises of trying to reduce the welfare rolls. - food stamp use, slashed. - rudy does have the instincts of a wartime general. he needs an adversary. he needs a fight. - when rud

rudy?iani and donald trump had just been elected president of the united states, you're feeling that there's tons of opportunity ahead. >> what's your role expected to be? >> i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice. i've done my friend for 28 years. my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. >> whatever rudy wants, rudy gets. he was the guy who stood by trump. >> whatever he said, bill clinton did much worse. >> his top pick is secretary of state. >> is this true? you want to be secretary of state? >> whatever i want to be, i'll discuss with the president-elect. >> rudy's developed a network of contacts in countries across the world in the wake of anyone anyone, and his geopolitical rock star status where he's treated almost like an ex-president as he traveled around the world. >> i think he thought being secretary of state would be a good way to stay in the game. >> you're not president, you're not vice president. secretary of state is the most

, yes, rudy."d, "jump," they said, "how high?" - so giuliani was taking on the mafia. and he wasn't only being fearless. he was being smart about how he was going to prosecute an organization and people who had been able to evade successful and effective prosecutions for many, many years. - we had ample evidence of what we call the jaguar tapes, in which anthony carollo, who was the head of the lucchese family, he was driven around in his jaguar and used it kind of as an office. - they recorded everything that happened. and it was like a goldmine of information because he just spilled his guts. giuliani was enthused about the carollo tapes 'cause they directly corroborated that the commission existed and that the organized crime families were, in fact, committing whatever illegal acts they were committing. - it is called the commission, the inner council that runs organized crime in this country. - led by the reputed boss of all bosses, paul castellano, head of the gambino family, four of new york'

rudy giuliani was brought down by rudy giuliani.c life either after 9/11 or after 2008, when he dies in a few years, they would name high schools after him. they would rename laguardia airport after him. he would go down as a complex, weird, funny, strange, highly accomplished guy, who at two key inflection points in history, stood up and offered powerful leadership. that man's gone, unfortunately. it's tragic. >>> hello and welcome to our

what does he do here, rudy giuliani? >> if he was being super careful, he would cut ties with anyone who is a witness or a potential victim in this case. i do think that as long as they're not discussing the case, i don't know that that would violate any of the conditions. how does that get policeded? it is probably a natural question. the answer is it is an imperfect process. judges and police are the only ones who can police it. so i think rudy giuliani will have to walk a pretty narrow tight rope as will donald trump as well. if people are wondering about these numbers, $200,000 for trump, $150,000 for rudy. they don't have to post all of that in cash. typically you have to post 10%. there are ways in georgia you can find a surety without posting any of it. if you're wondering how they arrive at these numbers, it is based on the numbers but it is negotiated between the prosecutor and the defense attorney. you come to a number that will be reasonable to ensure that the person comes back. that's how they came at this $1

rudy! get over here, rudy! >> i would head up a campaign to re-elect him for a third term.n. >> basically, my agenda is the only agenda discussed in the campaign, one way or the other. when you think about it, i mean, that's the core of what the discussion is all about, the agenda that we've set for the city. >> after i had said okay, borough president freddy ferrer had made the very smart decision to say no. >> we've done this for centuries in this city, for centuries in this nation in times of crisis and war. this should be no exception. >> the city is bigger than any one individual. we have to move forward with the process. >> it is an outrage that he should demand an extension of his time and effectively engage in political extortion. >> and so that idea died a quick death. >> he endorsed bloomberg. bloomberg was down 15 points i think at the time and bloomberg won. and then, you know, it was over. >> rudy dealt with it directly. i remember seeing him pack up his office, and there's a sense of some sadness, but, you know, i think there was a sense of exhaustion, certain

here's rudy giuliani. let's take a listen. news here's rudy giuliani let's take a listen. >> the american people. >> not getting a mic into that. vaughn hillyard is there. can we hear anything? vaughn, can you hear me? >> reporter: and the reality is -- >> can we get a statement. >> if they can do this to me, they can do this to you. remember, three years ago, the fbi raided my apartment. and they investigated me for two and a half years. 20 years of my life they investigated and wrote a letter to the grand jury, they couldn't find a single crime. so that should have pretty much cleared me, don't you think, except for this ridiculous case in which i'm being prosecuted for defending an american citizen. who i do as a lawyer, and five other lawyers are indicted. that should tell you right away that this is an assault on our constitution. fani willis, will go down in american history as having conducted one of the worst attacks on the american constitution ever when this case is dismissed. she has violated people's first amendmen

god bless you, rudy!u don't want to fight rudy on this. he is not gonna be happy." this is mob talk. this is "godfather" talk. - giuliani has taken fierce criticism for his controversial plans, but even opponents concede his political stature in america is something most mayors only dream about. - i got the message that he would invest his churchillian popularity to attack me. - rudy! rudy! get over here, rudy! - i would head up a campaign to-- to reelect him for a third term. he's the man. - basically, my agenda is the only agenda discussed in the campaign, one way or the other. when you think about it, i mean, that's the core of what the discussion is all about, the agenda that we've set to the city. - after i had said okay, borough president freddy ferrer made the very smart decision to say no. - we've done this for centuries in this city, for centuries in this nation, in times of crisis and war. this should be no exception. - this city is bigger than any one individual. we have to move forward with th

there is no story like rudy giuliani., i guess, the most extraordinary political rise and fall stories of our time. >> what happened to him? when people ask -- that is the question of rudy giuliani feels like, when -- the white house, when he was having a press comforts when his hair dye was running down his hair. he's at four seasons total landscaping. that is the question, what happened to rudy giuliani? >> i think in a word it was desperation. i think his rise to power was so extraordinary -- like, hero prosecutor, hero mayor. and presidential candidate who was leading in the polls for a full year in 2008 in the republican primary. he lasts just eight weeks in the republican primary. he drops out in total humiliation with just one delegate, falls from grace, loses his 9/11 halo, and suddenly he is out in the wilderness, and who comes to his rescue but donald trump? he literally houses him in mar-a-lago soon after the election, he had fallen into hey depression, he was drinking. giuliani had kind of hit rock bottom. and

>> um, rudy giuliani [ light laughter ] >> seth: "and how did you know that rudy was at the white housenight?" "uh, there was police tape on one of the bathroom doors. [ laughter ] also this mask isn't because of covid. [ laughter ] now as much as i'd love to spend the rest of the show on this story, and believe me, we thought about going live tonight to cover it, but the network did not respond to our many emails [ light laughter ] there are, i guess, some other less important stories in news for example, the investigation into all those top secret documents trump stole from the white house and stashed in the basement of his palm beach resort slash luxury morgue and you can rest assured -- you can rest assured, there is no possible connection between trump's handling of official government records and the toilet story we just told you about. >> staff members at the white house residence discovered wads of printed paper in a clogged toilet and believed that former president trump was trying to flush documents. >> in her new book maggie haberman of "the new york times" confirms a habit o

>> look, the problem with rudy is rudy is not the same rudy as he purports to be from years past, youoesn't see him as the former mayor who did so many good things, but rather, as the dopey rudy giuliani with the hair dye running down the side of his face in the four seasons parking lot. that's what he's seeing right now. and the comments that rudy is making is not beneficial to donald either. you see, the problem with donald is all you need to do is to say one thing wrong, and he forgets about anything else except for that one line. so the smartest thing rudy can do is not invoke donald's name, and, in fact, stop with the press conferences, because each time that he does, he makes a bigger fool out of himself. >> i really wanted to ask you about this development that we've seen here, michael. special counsel jack smith's team revealed yesterday that a mar-a-lago i.t. employee recanted false testimony that was given while represented by a trump-paid lawyer in the classified documents probe. he got a public defender and now he's saying something different about being asked to erase sec

it is now 2023, and rudy giuliani is still at the center.ow it's a story of which he is trying to defend the choices of a form er president and ones he made alongside him. the context is so different for him now. very soon the former mayor is going to surrender in fulton county, georgia, for conspireing with donald trump to steal an election. before making the plane ride to georgia, he shouted his innocence. >> i'm the same rudy giuliani that took down the mafia. i'm fighting for justice. i have been for the first moment i represented donald trump. don't know how many times he has to be proven innocent. they have to be proven to be liars, actually enemies of our republic. >> my panel is back with me. jonah, you think of rudy giuliani from the way back machine, post 9/11. as he was mentioning before that, the reason he became mayor is because of the work that he did as u.s. attorney, as a prosecutor in new york and the name he made for himself. talk about that and where we are today. it's almost hard to wrap your mind around, isn't it? >> yea

there is no story like rudy giuliani.one of, i guess, the most extraordinary political rise and fall stories of our time. >> so what happened to him? that is the question for people who saw him at the white house, when he was having the press conference where his hair dye is running down his face. what happened to rudy giuliani? >> i think in a word, it was desperation. i think that his rise to power was so extraordinary. a hero prosecutor, a hero mayor, a presidential candidate leading in the polls for a full year in 2008 in the republican primary. he lasted just eight weeks in the republican primary. drops out in total humiliation with only one delegate, and falls from grace. he loses his 9/11 halo and suddenly, he's out in the wilderness. who come to his rescue but donald trump? and you know, he literally houses him in mar-a-lago soon after the election. deappreciation he was drinking, giuliani had hit rock bottom. it was donald trump who was his ticket back to power. in 2016, it was donald trump who needed rudy giulia

we are talking about rudy giuliani.rico very well and if anyone should know to stop talking it should be rudy giuliani, and yet here we are. >> he's not the only attorney talking and there are a heck of a lot of attorneys who are charged in this case, and no shade to attorney, but i hear that they could be the worst kind of defendants. i want to ask you about john eastman. you know better than i do, but that's what i hear. >> doctors are horrible patients, right? it's not just that. doctors are horrible patients, so there you go. >> to be fair, but john eastman has also said -- come out and spoken -- actually, i'm going to hold on one second because we have a little bit of news for you. giuliani's plane, the plane that we believe giuliani is in as he has flown from new york into atlanta, landed there, going along the strip there. he will have to, of course, do the whole thing and get off the plane and get in the car and go down to the jail, but that is believed to be giuliani landing there in atlanta as he prepares to n

i will submit if we take a close all look there is a case to be made, rudy has been this version of rudyime, or least had it in him. in fact, rudy himself made a revealing statement to that effect last night when he emerged from his shame bunker to address the indictment. >> this is a ridiculous application of the racketeering statute, and there's probably no one knows it better than i do. probably some that know it as well. i was the first one to use it in white collar cases. but in major cases like the boesky case, the milken case, this is not meant for election disputes. this is ridiculous, what she's doing. >> rudy is correct. he really did pioneer the use of racketeering laws, often shorthanded as rico, to go after white collar criminals. it was an innovation of his, like michael milken, as he mentioned. he brought rico charges against the mob, the five families in new york, helping to bring down organized crime in new york. according to new reporting for the messenger, wiseguys are rejoicing in the wake of giuliani's own rico indictment. a veteran mob lawyer says his clients are, q

rudy giuliani just caught her rico charge. the week rudy giuliani of the u.s. attorney of the southern district of new york, rudy giuliani the guy who put away mobsters, rudy giuliani who was america's mayor in the tough on crime air. rudy giuliani's got to get a lawyer so he can show up in court in fulton county to face a rico charge. >> rico laws to prosecute. the irony is just unbelievably thick. >> rudy giuliani is 79 years old. if he is found guilty in this case, he will be at least 80 years old. if he perceives an appeal that is unsuccessful, he will be headed off to prison around age 82. rudy giuliani is facing tonight the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison and dying in a georgia prison. rudy giuliani is i think a very strong candidate to drop out of the contest with this jury and end up in the cooperating side. >> and chris mentioned the question how is it affected with people. we will be watching, i think if you are in a disadvantaged state as lawrence says, or also smaller fish, you have all the reason in the world to sit down and

so rudy giuliani could be the michael cohen of this. sells that 6.5 million dollar apartment in manhattan, real quick. >> catherine, let me ask you about something donald trump said. he may have heeded the judges advice in the two cases, the two most recent cases, where they formed him to sort of not do things that sounded intimidating to people who were involved in this case. the georgia case, even more specific, referring to social media. so, after he got arrested, he made this remark because i thought i won the election in thy every right to challenge it. i want to read to you what roger par laugh, the senior editor at lawfare or is about the sincere relief idea. he says while trump's refusal to face facts may be unusual for next president, it is not unusual for white-collar criminal defendant. many such defendants are vexing lee willful people who seem incapable of seeing themselves in the wrong. elizabeth holmes, the founder of theranos, is a dramatic recent example, while jeffrey scaling, ceo of enron, was another example from an

so yeah, you might say, what happened to rudy? or you could say, this has always been rudy. all the way to the end. nick ackerman re-briefly worked alongside giuliani was serving as an assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. ackerman was the first federal prosecutor to use rico statute to prosecute a mafia boss. this is a adam serwer, is author of the book the cruelty is the point. let me talk to you, adam, about the continuity question. it's something you've written about and thought about and how you see the trajectory of giuliani's career which is culminating in a very serious felony indictment. >> if you look at the back of those -- in races in new york city, those races are a kind of blueprint make new york city great again. very much rooted in the -- and a reaction to demographic changes in new york that were represented by the election of the first black mayor in the city. when you go back and look at the rhetoric in that election, he is comparing david denkins to david duke, calling him racist. you can see the influence of giuliani on the trump

rudy giuliani and sidney powell also turned themselves in earlier today.we also had a development when it comes to mark meadows, who has filed to have his case moved to federal court. yesterday said, hey, i want my arrest to be on hold, don't issue a warrant because we have a hearing on monday. fani willis responding this afternoon saying that the request was, quote, improper, and that he should face the hardship of being booked like any other defendant. i don't think that's a surprise to anyone based on what we saw in the initial filing. michael, i'm curious, how do you think the judge is going to respond here? >> he's called for an evidentiary hearing. that's unusual in states to get these people in this early. that's monday. he might give him a grace period until monday because he is holding daughter make a decision about it -- holding court to make a decision about it. the path of least resistance is to let him be processed like everyone else and have the hearing monday well whether or not to to transfer it to federal quarter. sometimes that's going to

what the hell has happened to rudy giuliani? >> that i cannot answer.an has had such a remarkable downward spiral. it's really horrifying to see. he was once a respected prosecutor. now here he is lying about these women, destroying their lives, and now being held accountable. i think it's interesting what the judge did here. the judge's ruling was, i'm done with you. this is what we call a default judgment. the judge said you have violated the rules, the evidence, the procedures so badly, i'm calling it. it's over. if in a football game a referee said you committed so many penalties, cheated so bad, i am calling, it's over, you forfeit, you lose. that's rare. it goes to rudy giuliani's loss of all ethics, of all moral compass, of anything he may have learned as a lawyer, he was once a very good lawyer, and now he is long gone. >> you know, katelyn polantz put it great last hour. words have consequences. and i think why that matters and why it is so important, one, for this to be moving the way it is, and also for people to remember these two women, to

when he was briefed on the names and rudy came up, it hit different. >> rudy struck him more than anybodyave many. he doesn't have friends, associates that he's close to. but rudy giuliani is different. he's someone he's had a relationship for nearly 30 years. he's a new yorker, through and through, like donald trump. to look at that relationship, to think the two are on an indictment together. the prospect of it, it really stuck him. >> juju: and yet, fani willis said this evening, she may try all 19 coconspirators together. do you think donald trump is concerned that any of them might flip? >> i think donald trump is freaking out about it. donald trump knows that nobody wants to go to jail. he knows he cannot give anybody an apartment. he is not president. but if he did become president, this is a state case. this is incredibly different. i'm told, among other things, they're trying to figure out context with some people. these are people that donald trump hasn't necessarily spoken to in the last two years. that's going to be a real critical thing right now. where does everybody stand?

rudy giuliani was trying to push her out because she was pushing theories that she had no backup for. think that that is a split that you're going to see develop a little bit more fully as this progresses. and also it is something that is relevant to the jack smith d.c. indictment. kind of the difference between what the sidney powell team is doing and what the giuliani team was doing. >> and i want to pause, you brought it up, that -- are you now still representing bernie kerik. you had been in the january 6th case, the federal case. >> yes. mr. kerik and i sat with special counsel last week. >> anything you care to reveal about the status of that? >> we sat with him for five hours. yeah, we sat with him for about five hours, we went through all of the efforts that the giuliani team undertook during that period of time to try and find fraud. what was preventing them from being able to, you know, go further, what they did to try and corroborate these claims, and certain claims of when they found out there wasn't corroboration for that they dropped out. and so, you know, we went throug

rudy giuliani just had this happen. this is his mug shot. that's rudy giuliani.merica's my your. some remember him as a prominent u.s. attorney at sdny. he's now been booked for his role in a criminal enterprise in the state of georgia. >>e toy remain a nation of laws. no individual is above those laws. that is being tested in the indictments of donald trump and tested in georgia and in the jack smith case. i think the hope that many are looking for is we can protect the rule of law in the country through this process. >> ian, i want to come back to you on this question of four indictments. there's some people who think they are going to be a distraction. they seem central to our ability to make a sound choice, if we want to continue to live in a democracy after 2024. >> the fall of 2020 before the election happened, our organization conducted some research to look at what is history in international experience teach about the best way to avoid the recurrence of high level aud democratic abuses in a government. is the path to look forward, not backwards? to look

attorney of the southern district of new york, rudy giuliani the guy that put away mobsters, rudy giuliani who is the america's mayor and the tough on crime mayor. rudy giuliani's got a lawyer so he can show up to court in fulton county for his rico charge. >> he used federal rico laws to prosecute those mafia -- the irony is just unbelievably thick. >> rudy giuliani is 79 years old. if he is found guilty in this case he will be at least 80 years old. if he pursues an appeal but unsuccessful he'll be headed off to prison around age 82. rudy giuliani is facing tonight the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison and dying in a georgia prison. rudy giuliani is, i think, a very strong candidate to drop out of the contest with this jury and end up on the cooperating side. >> yeah, and chris mentioned the question how does this affect different people we'll be watching. i think if you are in a disadvantaged state as lauren says or also a smaller fish, you have all the reason in the world to sit down and reassess and the mentioning of the individuals who are facing bar consequences

rudy giuliani is now out of jail on $150,000 bond. after his formal arrest in the georgia election subversion case. that included posing for a mugshot. the former trump lawyer turning himself in a day before his exboss will do so. kaitlyn, what can you tell us about giuliani's surrender? >> reporter: giuliani surrendered today just after his bond was negotiated, putting this proceeding as him being a criminal defendant in this case against donald trump and 18 others on essentially hyper speed in one day, doing both of these things in a way that other defendants had not. he also spoke outside the courthouse, i'm sorry, outside the jail as he was leaving, saying that if they can do this to me, they can do this to you, about the criminal justice system and that is, of course, true. the criminal justice system does arrest people when they are accused of crimes. so now, because rudy giuliani, the former prosecutor, is accused of racketeering charge as well as several other crimes, trying to coax public officials of lying, violating their o

this is a new process to rudy giuliani.te system where they have to go to the sheriff's office and go through the system there. this is not the arraignment. this is not like in new york where you go straight from there to see the judge and d.a. so bernie kerik is helping out his friend with the logistics of how to navigate the sheriff's office. >> rudy giuliani is a former u.s. attorney. he knows how these work. does kerik have particular experience in georgia on this stuff? >> he has a lot of friends, you know, other former law enforcement officials who have been able to give him advice. so he is just helping the mayor through. >> okay. do you know -- >> just because he a former federal u.s. attorney doesn't mean he knows the georgia system. >> i was asking if kerik knew the georgia system. sounds like you are saying he has friends that know it. has giuliani found a georgia-based lawyer, i guess, to represent him today? he is going to have to have one? go ahead. >> i am not sure. i know that as part of the bond, they usual

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they were being accused by rudy giuliani and other trump allies in terms of rudy giuliani in a legislative hearing in the georgia capitol of doing something nefarious. when, as you mentioned, there was no sort of usb drive. it was a ginger mint that ruby freeman and shaye moss were passing to one another. >> let's talk about this case, ken, and the liability now rudy giuliani faces and why he is facing it. he wouldn't produce documents for discovery. says, "well, the fbi took my phone. i don't have access to a lot of that stuff." why didn't he provide that information? what happens from here? what are some of the consequences? >> they're huge, willie. first of all, i should just say, this is such a profound example of the human impact of these election lies. >> yes. >> really the most egregious we've seen. we could see the racist overtones in the allegations made against these women. judge howell here in washington, d.c., just decided rudy giuliani was playing games with the process. he was refusing to engage in what's known as civil discovery, where someone sues you, the judge rules the s

and rudy is sitting at my desk, and the plaque in front of my desk says boss lady.y husband, i said, we better get over there. >> we demand a fair election! >> i demand you shut the hell up! >> we demand a fair election! we demand a fair election! >> there was a crowd of people, the biden and trump supporters were there, they were going back and forth with each other. and then the cops showed up and the entire front row was shut down. that's when it kind of got like, very nerve wracking for me. >> it was just overwhelming, so i just looked around, i looked at everybody, i tried to figure out who everybody was. the press conference was about to start. i stood on top of the trailer so i could see. and i just watched. >> in the final weeks, officials told me keeping rudy busy became a full-time job. they had to devise places to send him. specific aides to keep with him. that would make it so he was not running wild, creating whack-a-mole problems for them. >> rudy giuliani is undermining confidence in the american election system. and therefore undermining our national

we just heard from rudy ju giuliani. new details about the judge who will preside over this case. the judge has been randomly assigned. he's overseen january 6th's defendants. >>> the form e president trump's 2024 rivals are weighing in on the charges. their reactions ranging from condemning trump to condemning the justice department. >>> georgia, fulton county sheriff said trump won't receive special treatment. quote, it doesn't matter your status, we'll have mug shots ready for you, all of that this hour of cnn this morning starts right now. >>> third indictment. fourth potentially on the way. yet it feels like this one is bigger, more consequential and means a lot more for the country, however it lands and that's exactly right. it's about our democracy. that's what we heard from special counsel jack smith last night. >> multiple reactions from people across the spectrum. we have team coverage this morning. sarah murray is live in washington, d.c. here at the table, the expert, pbs newshour white house correspondent. jeff duncan. and john avalon. first, 40-plus pages, what do th

and it's the same with rudy giuliani.nd again, people seem to think that donald trump will be loyal to them after they have shown loyalty to him. and that's simply never been the case. that wasn't the case when he was a real estate mogul, that wasn't the case when he was a celebrity. the guy just isn't loyal. and it's no surprise to me that giuliani now that he's on the downslope, finds himself bereft of any help from the guy who he really went to bat for. >> the thing is people will remember they did that skit where they both dressed in drag and did sort of a mocking thing of that, like, they have had a relationship for a really long time, have been friends. but to your point, donald trump doesn't care about that. he doesn't care about his kids. i'm not sure he would help them. he's definitely not going to help rudy. jamelle bouie, thank you very much. >>> up next, tennessee lawmakers begin to special session that was supposed to address gun violence but the republican speaker had something else in mind. we'll bring you

>> look, i mean, rudy giuliani was considered kind of a paragon of integrity in the 1980s. i tell the story about an old childhood friend who came to visit giuliani with a framed picture of the two of them together when they were children. giuliani took the picture out of the frame, took the picture, and gave the frame back, and he said i can't take that frame. he was just scrupulous about his ethics. that is not the giuliani we're seeing today, the person who's tried to overturn the election, someone who pushed the fake elector scheme, someone who told falsehoods about the election workers passing usb drives, as though they were viles of cocaine. there's something about giuliani that has kind of changed in a moral way. his morals have, as i wrote today in the "times" have kind of disappeared into a void. he has always kind of framed his comments, his positions in moral ways, just as he did in that sound clip you just played, but he talks about morality but tries to justify some deeply, deeply immoral acts. >> so people ask me all the time, i'm guessing they ask you too. wh

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that amount that save america pac gave rudy giuliani was $340,000. had and gave him an extra 20 grand but that's not even a bite out of legal bills he has. he's facing sanctions, a court order saying he needs to pay off his phone bill from 2020, $57,000. and there are all kinds of fees related to fighting lawsuits that are connected to what he said for donald trump as his attorney after the 2020 election. legal fees, fees that could possibly come in the future and he is judged in court to have lost those lawsuits. things that could be so great it could put a person on the path towards bankruptcy and donald trump is not interested at this time in paying more towards rudy giuliani. >> just to be clear so giuliani and his lawyer go to mar-a-lago to ask for money. trump not that interested in paying his bills that giuliani charged him for but did agree to pay something not out of his own pocket. >> bills after he was trump's attorney. but trump has been paying money for a lot of different people around him, even related to the 2020 election. but this sit

trump along with janet ellis. >> rudy giuliani is in a lot of hot water.were not aware of the law. this is someone who really has known rico prosecutions is a top prosecutor in new york. >> sara murray: rudy giuliani was not the only surprise appearance. >> the news media were not the usual characters. people like the epic times, news max, all of these various news outlets that had a very particular view. and it was incredibly troubling what triggered serious alarm bells is one the tweet went out from defend pres. >> sara murray: pres. trump fired off the street to his millions of followers ahead of the hearing. warning them to watch what would unfold of the georgia capital. >> what is it tells you of who the audience is for this audience? >> they were trump supporters who needed to invent this conspiracy and patient there was evidence. >> as the lt. gov. at the time, jeff duncan, served as the president of the georgia senate. >> these were not official meetings i did not sanction that. >> they wanted a special session because that added one layer of authe

>> rudy giuliani needs money.ight, donald trump said he was going to have a fund-raiser for him. but why did donald trump do that? keep your friends close, keep your codefendants even closer. donald trump has to be concerned that someone is going to flip, and rudy was right at the center of this. >> yeah. so far he hasn't flipped. >> right, right. >> thank you very, very much. >>> coming up, we're going to continue to follow all the breaking news. the wagner founder, yevgeny prigozhin, is apparently dead after a plane crash outside of moscow earlier today. we'll hear from a former u.s. national security official. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." mom, c'mon! mia! [ engine revevving ] ♪ ♪ my favorite color is... because, it's like a family thing! [ engine revving ] ♪ ♪ made it! mom! leave running behind, behind. the new turbocharged volkswagen atlas. does life beautifully. you're watching football wrong! what do you call a guy in face paint that can't get the game? ...a clown! sorry, what app was it aga

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this is what rudy said about -- what rudy said about ruby freeman and shea moss. >> taped earlier inn moss and one other gentlemen quite obviously surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if they're vials of heroin or cocaine. >> what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. >> and let me do one more here. let me also play what donald trump said about ruby freeman to georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> we had at least 18,000 that's on tape. we had them counted very painstakingly, 18,000 voters having to do with ruby freeman. she's a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler. ruby freeman, that was the tape that's been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me, and everybody else. >> so i want to deal with the legality of it. let me just say that talking about vials of cocaine and calling someone a scammer and a hustler is also racist. trump and rudy both make flagrantly racist comments about these women who were the best among us, election workers, helping their neighbors figure out how to vote. ronnell, w

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rudy giuliani called them ballot-stuffing conspirators.nd tonight, ruby freeman's attorney is speaking to cnn. listen. >> this is a finding of liability on every count of our claims that we brought in this lawsuit. so, it is a significant validation of what they have been saying since day one, that they were unfairly and targeted for just doing their job. >> let's get to errol lewis. and cnn political commentator, scott jennings. and renato mariati. giuliani lost the case, in part, because he failed to produce subpoenaed evidence. he struggled to maintain his own access to his electronic records. you have to wonder. given a couple weeks ago, he conceded he made false statements. why would he go about this default in this way? he risks losing millions, if damages are assessed. why would he be concerned about testifying in this matter, perhaps? >> well, he testifies in this matter, all of that can be used against him. he's between a rock and a hard place here. the underlying factual issues overlap with the atlanta, fulton county criminal cas

so no chance for rudy giuliani, you think?> i think no chance there. >> what do you make of mark meadows? he is indicted here. he is not indicted by jack smith in that investigation into efforts to overturn the election. do you think jack smith is unhappy about this? does this mess up his plans? >> it certainly escalates the mystery around mark meadows. if mark meadows was cooperating with jack smith, that could be, we don't know, he's not named in the indictment, he's not one of the co-conspirators -- >> people suspect he is. let's operate with that. >> if we assume he is, this indictment by fani willis blows that up. it is a major problem for jack smith because when you have a cooperation deal the deal is you're going to own up to everything you've done and i'm going to make sure that you're clear for everything else. now if out of left field we get this new indictment and now mark meadows is looking at state rico charges, that could be a real problem. >> the other thing we're learning about jack smith's investigation which

rudy giuliani facing 13 counts said this afternoon he'll seek to do the same. we'll talk more in a moment about this and the case to be made for it with our legal experts and whether the former president might join in. right now, though, he appears to be rushing head long into the past. two years and seven months since leaving office four criminal indictments and 71 fell ni charges later donald trump says he can finally do it. do what all his attorneys and motley cast of characters around him were unable to do in dozens of court cases around the country in the days and weeks, namely prove election fraud. posting on his social network this morning, he announced a press conference next monday at which he'll present a, quote, large complex detailed but irrefutable report on the presidential election fraud which took place in georgia. by the way, if you think you have heard this before, you kind of have. let's go back, the date, january 4th, 2021, dalton, georgia. >> since the election, we have put forth indisputable evidence documenting the rampant fraud which wil

when rudy became americas mayor.he even seemed briefly like i viable presidential candidates. but in the, and rudy squandered his political redemption by hefting -- hitching his wagon to donald j trump. rudy help trump get elected in 2016 and thought he would be repaid with a cabinet position. but instead, trump left him on the outside as an attack dog, political dirty trickster, like when he was traveling to ukraine to dig up dirt on hunter biden. now giuliani is in legal hot water for the win of trump's dirty work. in addition to the georgia and documents, he faces a defamation lawsuit from two election workers in georgia, who say they were targeted after giuliani accused them of counting fake ballots. the once celebrated fossil cuter and for what has had a dramatic full from grace. the 79 year old could now face the rest of his life in prison. all of this because he sacrificed whatever integrity he had left to do the bidding of donald trump. and as we are learning, now, trump doesn't seem to have any intention of

more legal problems for rudy giuliani. a judge is found liable for defaming two georgia election workers. they sued rudy giuliani for repeating false claims they helped commit election fraud. they say the claims put them through a living nightmare. >> i lost my name and my reputation. i have lost my sense of security. all because a group of people starting with number 45 and his ally rudy giuliani decided to scapegoat me and my daughter. to push their own lies about how the presidential election was stolen. >> the judge says she ruled in the favor giuliani failed to discovery in the case. for all of the legal threats going on with the former president, you have to pay attention to this one, the human element is real. katelyn polantz joins us now. to read through the 57-page opinion from the judge, it was unsparing. why? >> because words have consequences. that's the point that the judge is trying to make here. rudy giuliani said a lot of things about why he wasn't able to respond even to this lawsuit fully from these two g

remind me never to have rudy speak at my funeral.ebrate a life but before that i just want you to know i never, ever took a road trip with that homicidal drifter ever. except for that time we drove to wisconsin. you are right there, bernie? point is, bernie is my alibi. rudy's rambling 9/11 speech led many to speculate he was drunk out of his mind. nice to know he's cutting back. of course, rudy didn't dignify these accusations with a response. he dignified them with many, saying, yes, i had a scotch, but i was not drunk adding i'm not an alcoholic. i use the word functioning. i don't know why it used the word functioning. i'm not an alcoholic. i am 77 years old. i've never been treated for alcoholism. yes, that is clear. if you want to do now and alcohol, maybe don't choose a word that famously precedes the words alcoholic. it's like i'm saying i'm not mrs. meisel, i'm marvelous, i don't know why i use the word marvelous. i've never been treated for being mrs. meisel. rudy continued, i am not a drunk. i don't think i've ever been pu

rudy giuliani, facing 13 counts, said this afternoon he will seek to do the same.e'll talk more in a moment about this, and the case to be made for it, with our legal experts, and whether the former president might join in. right now though, he appears to be rushing headlong into the past, two years and seven months since leaving office, for criminal indictments, and 91 felony charges later, donald trump now says he can finally do it, do it all his attorneys and all of the motley cast of curators had around him were unable to do, and dozens of court cases around the country in the case and weeks after the 2020 election. namely, prove election fraud. posting on his social network this morning, he announced a press conference next monday, at which he will present a, quote, large complex, detail, but irrefutable report on the presidential election fraud which took place in georgia. and by the way, if you think you have heard this before, you kind of hat. and let's go back to the day, junior for, 2021. the place, dalton georgia. >> since the election, we have put forth