you the truth, russ. the former vice president has suggested it was a good thing when general powell had left the administration. and general powell did not take that lightly. i mean he didn't like anything about this book, including the way the former vice president's been promoting it by saying that it would cause heads to explode all over washington. just listen what he said about that. >> and in fact, the kind of headline i would expect to come out of a gossip columnist or the kind of headline you might see one of the supermarket tabloids write, not the kind of headline i would have expected to come from former vice president of the united states of america. >> now russ, we knew there were a lot of disagreements between the state department and the pentagon and the vice president's office. but we really got more information on that today than i think we have before. because when i noted that... that the former vice president was no kinder to condoleezza rice than he had been to colin powell, well, jus

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captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with russ mitchell. >> mitchell: good evening. tonight the 42-year-old regime of libyan dictator qaddafi appears close to collapse after rebel forces enter the tripoli. after a six month civil war. rebel forces seize tripoli. alex crawford of sky news was with the rebels as they entered tripoli. >> reporter: you get a sense of the feeling that people have in the city tonight. they feel liberated. that's water being thrown. they do that in celebration as well. and there are fireworks, guns going off everywhere. it is absolutely amazing sight. >> mitchell: and earlier today alex filed this report on the rebel's march toward the city. >> reporter: this was the push on to tripoli they'd promised. from dawn it began and they moved at a tracking pace. they came from all over, joining the attack on the capital. within hours they had taken the next town on from zawiri and a step closer to the capital. the mood was bullish. along the way there was no substantial resistance from the qaddafi troops, with all the evidence suggesting many of

paychecks so there are very very few people that are not affected by this virus bernie sanders and russ feingold are the two best examples i'm sure i could find you a couple more but not much more than than even the good guys realize the quote unquote reality of the system and wind up having to raise a lot of money from those same interests and then eventually over time get corrupted i'll see if americans actually realize that next time that the elections come around now that essentially they have been sold out to corporate. is that there is no real revenues in this bill at all it's only cuts cuts cuts and of course most economists would agree that this is only going to make the employment situation worse and the economy worse overall but jane thanks so much for joining us tonight. thank you. are we're taking a quick break but coming up there's a glimmer of hope when it comes to advancements in women's health and the details on that in just a moment and we're going to take a look at the effects of this debt compromise on a personal scale when i speak to an advocate for the ninety nine e

russ is off. i'm anthony mason. we begin tonight with the worst single blow to u.s. forces since the war in afghanistan began nearly 10 years ago. a helicopter crash has killed 30 americans, and early indications are that the taliban is to blame. elizabeth palmer in london has the latest. >> reporter: the chinook helicopter came down in wardak province just southwest of kabul. of the 30 americans aboard, 22 were members of the special operations navy seal team six, the same unit that killed osama bin laden. the other eight were army and air force personnel. a civilian translator, seven afghan commandos, and a specially trained dog also died. the crash site has now been cordoned off, about the taliban claim they shot down the chinook early this morning just as it was taking off after a raid on their fighters. u.s. military sources say it was called in as backup by another unit, which had run into trouble. local witnesses report the chinook was hit with a rocket- propelled grenade, a popular weapon among the taliban because it's light and cheap, although it's usually i

russ has the night off. i'm anthony mason. all eyes turn to wall street monday morning as investors brace for the fallout from the downgrade of u.s. credit. stocks lost nearly a trillion dollars in value last week. that was before standard & poor's cut america's credit rating for the first time in history. and the head of the agency's ratings committee said today if the u.s. doesn't clean up its fiscal act, it could be downgraded again within six months. >> the outlook indicates at least a one-in-three chance of a downgrade over that period. >> mason: s&p has blamed partisan bickering in part in washington for its decision. but as witt johnson reports, the bickering continued today. >> gentlemen... >> reporter: following america's credit downgrade, more bickering, democrats and republicans taking their targets. >> it is a tea party problem. i think they have been smoking some of that tea, not just drinking it. >> if this president had failed to lead in any other private sector enterprise, he would be fired. >> reporter: partis

vote for who is actually a progressive i don't know if it's you know sanders i don't know if it's russ feingold but at this point i can't it's hard to imagine a democrat being worse than president obama on all the issues that you mention so by all means we should do it in them point number two is look we've actually only be helping him because racial wisdom is their primary sort of president but you've got to understand something he disguise heading off a cliff and ease the unemployment is this asterisk and when we do the spending cuts it's only going to get worse if you primary him and push him to the left you'd only be helping him in trying to win the actual general election because if you don't primary him and they do the second round of these cuts and they cut in title and and he goes into the summer with over nine percent unemployment he's going to hit poll numbers he's never seen before he's going to hit into the thirty's and he's going to panic but by that time it's going to be too late i see him rest finegold you mentioned bernie sanders there but do you think that there are re

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. >> we are joined also by russ rl roughville. russell -- >> i screwed up the first name. robert. president and ceo of independent ijts agent of the brokers>> loretta before we talk about the solvency of the insurance industry can you add vise the people who have suffered damage on what they should do right now? >> i want to say a few things about the total losses from katrina it was 45 billion. >> the air worldwide is putting it anywhere from 1.5 million to $6 billion. in terms of the insurance industry, it has taken a very serious approach to the storm much like katrina. wref mounted a serious offense for losses and have already gone in and we have -- we already started making phone calls about the storms to let people know what the potential losses would be what they needed to do. >> preparation is great. i am glad you did all that. now it happened what should people do? >> right now in terms of filing -- >> if they have flood insurance through the flood insurance program they will be covered. if they don't have flood insurance then they won't have coverage. that is something t

pastor larry russ says these are busy times but people are in need of prayer. >> a lot of people have been praying for finances, their children, marriages, foreclosures, their physical need. >> pastor russ says he wants people to know they have support in these tough times. even if they aren't making able to make it all the way into the church. >> it's the thought. >>> time now 6:18. we are thinking about 880 and how the commute is going now. >> we are thinking about a lot of the commutes dave and pam. we do have we've had one of the twitter followers tell us about a problem in sunnyvale and we are looking at it here on matilda avenue off ramp this truck didn't make it on to the freeway and some fuel spilled. you can see the tank there was damaged. now the truck obviously couldn't move after that and they've had a rough time getting it out of the way. so this is going to be a problem for you if you are on matilda avenue. they also have hazardous materials crews ready to clean up all that fuel as soon as that truck is removed. again this is on the matilda avenue off ramp from southboun

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someone like howard dean, russ fine gold. they've all said no. the incumbent president won't have a serious primary challenger. that's the situation heading into november 2012. >> good to talk with you. appreciate that. with me on the phone is the mayor of piasta, iowa, population 1300. it sits behind cedar rapids and madison. mayor, good to talk to you today. >> yes. >> do you think the president can do anything for your town without the cooperation of congress? >> i don't think if he can do anything for our town. we've got -- we're pretty much established right now. our economy is good and our housing is good. right now we've got 14 houses being built right now. and our population keeps growing. so i don't know if we can really help him help us. maybe we can help him. >> i think a, you might be one of the very few politicians in this nation who says hey, everything is pleasantville in my town. in what way do you think you could help the president? >> well, maybe we can give him some pointers about what to do to pass into congress to get them to

pilot russ mowry, however, is stuck inside, and the engine is still running with 80 gallons of fuel onning to ignite. police officers arrive within minutes. they were already on the scene responding to the earlier shooting that the helicopter originally was sent to cover. >> he was telling us, pull the red levers, pull the red levers. >> to stop the engine. >> to stop the engine, yes. >> rescuers pulled out the pilot out of the wreckage and shut off the engine. the three men are taken to the hospital. all survive the incredible crash. the fuselage around their seats protecting them like a cocoon. their unbelievable survival becomes a national story, and pilot russ mowry is interviewed on the "today" show. >> my last thought was i wanted to get away from the street, wanted to hit a rooftop, get on the rooftop level. i saw that -- what i thought was a white chimney. i said, if i can hit that chimney and stop, that will arrest my forward motion. i'll stop when i hit the chimney and land on the roof. i thought, well, this is it. and it's over. and it was -- no flashbacks. i'm dead, and tha

wisconsin is the loam of fighting bob who took on big business and fought for liberal wage or nelson or russent traditions living side by side for decades. my high school friends and i to this day can have friendly debates between the thompson republicans and progressives. that's how it used to be. but not anymore. governor scott walker by aligning hems with out state wealthy conservative zealots like the coke brothers in citizens for strong america turned this quiet state into a political war zone. the other side is not blameless, taking lots of union money from washington to fuel their side the debate, but this election today broke all funding records with a vast majority of the over 30 million compare dollars coming from outside groups. just match fn that money had been spent on schools like my old high school here. could the coke walker crowd, destruction and division are the goal, not something to be avoided. recently it was discovered that the walker administration sought to cut the number of drivers' licenses offices in democratic neighborhoods, and then increase them in republican ne

i'm russ mitchell in new york. scott pelley will be here tomorrow. good night.tioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org late news from washington that a compromise has been reached to avert a government default in two days. we're live in wash cbs5.com cbs5.com. >>> a deal is done late news from washington that a compromises that within reached. we're live in washington. >>> we're down to the wire on the debt ceiling debate it seems like everybody in america is aware of the problem but not everyone's happy with the solution. >>> and a final verdict, a decision expected this week that could mean freedom for two graduates jailed for two years in iran. cbs 5 eyewitness news is next ,,

new administration might act policy wise but the classic horror movie jaws has become a reality in russ's far east which has been terrorized by marine predator a cash reward has been offered by local authorities for the capture of the saarc that savants two people are just very basic over tells the story of the victims who are lucky to be alive. nothing like this has ever happened here before russia has never seen a shark attack let alone two in two days this sixteen year old boy was diving one hundred meters off shore when it appeared the young man's wet suit served as protection and saved him from death but both his legs were severely wounded. crying help help the shark have a big boat but it was tied up so some guys went out on to do receive him and gave first day only a day earlier a twenty five year old man lost his forearms trying to defend his wife when the couple were saved witnesses were shocked at what they saw but i with us it was really scary a countryman describe it the man's hands were chewed off and the boat was full of blood. the attacks happened in the far eastern primord

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new jersey developer russ lepino could have broken ground on this $12 million housing project more than a year ago. >> if the market sales were better, the rate of the sales we would have been started here already. >> reporter: lepino just turned financing on another project to cross town for the same reason. his banker, frank sorentino, said the lack of consumer confidence is what's contaminating the recovery. >> when you look at the hysteria in the marketplace people are second-guessing decisions they would ordinarily make. >> reporter: look no further than the changing credit card habits as proof. credit card delinquencies are at their lowest level in 17 years as consumers use cash not for new purchases but to pay down old debt. outside of philadelphia, xavier walter paid off all of his $20,000 in credit card debt. he's got a strict cash only policy now. >> it's more a weekly budget now and daily budget and minute by minute budget. i'm constantly making a decision in my head, is this something that i absolutely need right now? every person who doesn't put on that debt they're not buy

out this week coming to you from the all mood region situated in the very full of this reaches of russ's for weeks with thousands of kilometers away from you in moscow but to me of like minutes by popes from china and all surprisingly the influence of china and its culture is everywhere here. high heels and a hard hat it's not a look many women can pull off but then lily white on a rest or if she prefers to be called in russia is no ordinary woman having first arrived in a more as an interpreter in the early ninety's she and her family worked their way up from running a small cafe shining this large construction company. and spread across the region's capital blagoveshchensk no fewer than four large chinese restaurants full most nights and serving up the taste of the orient to russian dinah's it's an impressive pool failure and one that the mother of two says she couldn't have built in china if you. use the word of yet i saw an opportunity to create something here russia needs skilled laborers and with china being so close and easy our existing chinese goods and equipment and are already

it was written by a guy named russ smith. he's a person actually -- i've admired a lot of his work. he was a founder of a couple -- i guess, three alternative newspapers and so i make a distinction in the between the underground book in the '60s and the free alternative weeklies in vending boxes and he said i celebrate these decentralized structures and i don't criticize these and they were not interested on "rolling stone" magazine and they were coming down hard on underground newspapers and it wasn't sufficiently explored. and he said i gave short shrift to the village voice and he went on to say "the village voice" was very pioneering and very influential to the alternative press and he mentioned a guy named dan wolf who's one of the early editors who had a light editorial hand and gave his readers a lot of things and it was important. he didn't say anything in the review that i didn't say myself. so i just -- i thought it was lazy. i thought it was lazy. [inaudible] >> did who read what? >> did the "wall street journal" read your book. >> yeah, the guy who wrote the review must

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aviation sensation russ's fifth generation five to has made its international debut last days they say isn't flying out it's not just cutting edge aircraft take to the skies they're the capital. most stories in around fifty minutes time right now they're going to sports update with. and there wasn't a this was here's and here are the headlines using stars leon come from a goal down to beat former russian champions rubin three one in france in the first leg of their champions league playoffs. while marches on a tour of the believes the russian charge into round three with an imperious victory at the cincinnati open. great expectations k.h. are runners up on topping this season tapes of the trial of the arrival of the smitten supercoach. its first football and russians are derby and have it all to do play want to reach the group stages of the season's champions league because onside conceded early leads to these three want to french giants in the first leg of their qualifying play off while rubin enjoyed a dream standards as studying ideas young put them ahead after just three minutes bu

. >> reporter: new jersey developer russ luppino could have broken ground on this $12 million housing project more than a year ago. >> if the market sales were better, the rate of the sales we would have been started here already. >> reporter: luppino just turned down financing on another project across town for the same reason. his banker, frank sorrentino, says this lack of consumer confidence is what's contaminating the recovery. >> when you look at the hysteria in the marketplace, people are second guessing decisions they would ordinarily make in a different fashion. >> reporter: look no further than america's changing credit card habits as proof. credit card delinquencies are at their lowest level in 17 years as consumers use cash, not for new purchases but to pay down old debt. >> i haven't borrowed a penny at home. >> reporter: xavier walter paid off his $20,000 in credit card debt. he has a strict cash-only policy now. >> it's more a weekly budget now, a daily budget, a minute- by-minute budget so i'm constantly making a decision in my head, you know, is this something that i

not you and your son if you were to cut too much it would be own nor russ for the economy at this iffy stage is there even going to be an appetite for cutting more spending in this environment? >> no. there isn't. there is always a special interest that comes up. budget that is crdz a cut. freezing the budget is a cut. anybody who has their budget frozen yells and screams. you can imagine what the military industrial complex would say if you suggested freezing the system entirely. the definition of entitlements versus rights. our foreign policy country we want in the future and what economic policies we are going to follow. >> neil: it's interesting. i guess it's hard to gauge right now, congressman. but downgrade could lead to a lot of messier things. we have to watch extremely closely. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> neil: outlining the deal that was the source of some of this concern and maybe s&p jumping here. this 2.1 trillion-dollar debt deal you hear so much about is $2.1 trillion over 10 years. 70% of those kits come after the year 2017. $28 billion over the

also online if you russ's politicians to be the revered event you would take time out by going on a fishing trip to the mighty boulder river more video and many more my website. time now for business update with. hello and welcome to our business update this hour august seventeenth is a dark day in russian financial history it's when the country declared its only to fall back in one thousand nine hundred eight caught between a fall in crude prices and the asian crisis russia was caught short but we're all a national capital says we're not in line for a perfect storm to. the ninety nine price just makes what we're seeing of the boy would look like a walk in the park in ninety nine. the equity market lost ninety three percent of its value last week the though the russian market lost about fifteen percent of its value paid her but it was nothing compared to the nine hundred ninety eight russia has moved on a lot further room for bed you know russia russia now it performs along saw it a lot of the other emerging markets and looks to his lead in ninety nine zero eight it was really a case of it'

the public glimpse of russ's fifth generation clients debt with the high life in stocks assayed in moscow now the second day of a mack truck the best in all things to deal side on the ground and eyes plays in this guy's voice are safe and watching the action for. what an amazing day it's been here for the max two thousand and eleven international annual show one is rory so you say we saw history in the making today with the debut of the super secret stealth sukhoi the t. fifty it's been hidden from everybody it came out today much to the approval of the prime minister vladimir putin and he was here to watch the debut of the stealth t.c.p. strike that he gave the crew and how could he not with the maneuvers it was pulling it just the sky the pieces of the sensational piece piece of machinery that is designed to go against america's f. twenty two and f. eighteen the idea was actually comes up between russia and india it was a mutual deal to produce the super secret stealth p.t. fifty the idea is to create over a thousand in the coming decades and hopefully have them in service by two thousa

next five retail group russ's leave in supermarket chain by sales has passed that second quarter net profits are seventy three million dollars that's almost two hundred more than the same period last year but still slightly below other less forecasts. last well than seem drawn in the north and gas pipeline to the european network in germany is now concludes the direct line from the russian reserves and siberia as more than twelve hundred kilometers in length and goes via the baltic sea the company operating the connection pipeline bring group says it's ready for the gas to flow it expects conversion in the first off the north since when pipelines to start in the fourth quarter of twenty eleven. that's all the business is for now for more stories head to our web site r.t. dot com slash business in the meantime as the headlines of. go to the. bottom i'm philosophy. mausam i'm lost. much the moment efficiency. mocks mom come for. months mom maneuverability most mediation few stupid remarks moscow's most famous here show on technology jump a cheer on a large we've got the future covered.

because i think they know up from seeing a scott walker become governor last year and from seeing russ feingold lose this race i think they know now no other consequences of what happens if you don't go out and vote and if you don't get involved in taking responsibility over the political process so at this stage it's really showing the way and that's part and . all of them jim david vines a student there who is also a part time indy reporter as been on our show before he told us today that he's heard reports of voters particular students being turned away because they don't have proper id because of the recently passed motor idea law in that state you heard in the like that. actually i had not i mean i've heard of a few things happening here and there tom but one of the things is that the voter i.d. law does not take effect. until later on and actually if you do not have an id and you are registered to vote you do not need to show an id when you go to the polls today you can still register today but you have to have proved residency you know if there are those tales you know i hope we

big russ was was saying that the u.s. is actually out creaking of a greek speakers if you add all of the unfunded liabilities to the national debt figure i mean the national debt figure. isn't really what this is really about but really the unfunded liabilities are the so-called fiscal there when that's two hundred and two trillion us dollars saw in many ways that's worse than greece the budget deficit is very small as the same as grazier of ten point eight percent budget deficit in the eurozone was formed not as a eurozone as any better i mean they're just blowing up right now to. have severe seeing again pressure on greek and takes government bonds and even germany and france are increasingly looking shaky on the government as well but just as a reference when the eurozone was found there was a limit of three percent a budget deficit as a percentage of g.d.p. that is normally considered as a maximum sustainable so the u.s. is now at ten point eight percent clearly as we have been warning we are beyond the point of no re

assuming that that's the case paul krugman is right and president obama is about to lower a very tough russ or maybe not but here's the narrative that the president is pushing the narrative that the president has been promoting throughout his presidency basically is that compromise is what makes trans transformational presidents that his hero was abraham lincoln or ronald reagan that they were truly transformational presidents and that bill clinton wasn't and therefore he needed to compromise so is the notion that the great presidents of history were compromisers in fact he said this is a quote from president obama this nation was founded in compromise i don't frankly recall george washington compromising with king george the third in fact for a war that's that's about as far from compromise as you can get i don't recall james madison compromising with the brits and the canadians when they came to washington d.c. to this town to burn the white house and james madison the only president of the united states first of all the father of the constitution but also the only person the united state

anything else that drove me started me down this path at the beginning of it was it with a couple of russ's five stages perhaps and if so and of course you know. talk about naive i mean my theory of political change then you'll recall i was twenty seven or twenty eight when i was writing this my theory of political change basically boiled down to i will write a book. everyone will read it and then they'll change right you know i mean i did write the book and you know in comparison to terms everybody read it it came out in twenty four languages it was a bestseller all over the place but it turns out that as i've sort of learned slowly painfully that's not quite how political change exactly happens. you you have also written about. you've you've written about human impact your book about one you've written you wrote a book about. other cultures. how. to what extent do you think that the sickness. excuse me that we're confronting is not our technology necessarily or even our politics but our culture i think that culture and our technologies as it were very closely intertwined i think the thing

the story is russ's finds a new sweeping up the smoking laws which will seriously dent the profits of tobacco companies in the country the government is planning to hugely increase tobacco duty which will see the price of a packet of twenty. dollars it's also going to bring a legislation to ban smoking in public places such as restaurants and clubs hotels and. t.v. advertising will also be banned the sale of cigarettes with strict stores currently about half of russian men one in six women. at the new law are being is being introduced to try and improve health of russian relations which has one of the lowest life expectancies in the industrialized world. and russia's biggest appliance retailer eldorado has been bought out by a check private equity fund he has already owns half of the company and has bought the remaining stake from its russell product analysts estimate the deal is worth about six hundred twenty five million dollars eldorado has over three hundred stores in crane and. as well as in russia. although some companies specializing in payment service is negotiating to put str

first it was i think larry russ tick who was pointing out the irrationality and piques that came in. even the president who is famous for his calm on all matters, it strikes me that in this relevant many, when it comes to anything involving executive authority and national security, president obama has been just as prone to pique and to a sense of how dare you challenge my executive authority as any of the successors. i think we saw that in a refusal to involve congress in a libyan decision. so i'm suggesting number one a situation where a president is going to take on this mantle when he's in office. on john san's good news, the glass is all but one millionth part full, it strikes me that the un one millionth part eavetyementy -- empty is significant, because even the one millionth part was able to do quite a bit of damage. if you have a exposure to the american public, you realize if there is an absolute minimum of cynicism, there will be a large number of people who are outraged, angry, want to kill people in authority, et cetera, and so there is always going to be enough people t

joining me now, from captiol hill, nbc's luke russ certificate. chamber in the press gallery at the time. what was it like to be in the chamber when she was acknowledged. >> it was an amazing heart-felt moment. there was not a dry eye in the house. it was a truly special -- in the sense this debate about the debt had brought out the cynicism that plagues this country, especially this city. both sides are going at each other in the most heated of ways. the republicans and democrats had no unity at all throughout the process especially toward the end. reporters were especially drained. as i said to one person, we didn't know there was a deal going. almost a front row seat to our country destructing but gabrielle giffords walks through the doors and immediately all of the turmoil, all the stress and anger and animosity just went away immediately and people from both sides just understood the gravity of the moment and how amazing it was. that here is somebody who was shot in the head and came back to washington to perform the duty which she was electe

. >> pastor russ says they want people to know they have help in these tough times. >>> we also rely on sal to watch our commute to get us to where we need to go. sal. >> i had a question on twitter someone just said there is -- let me read this tweet. there is a police block off the street and tv crews sunny vail 101. do you know what is going on? frank i do know what is going on. >> he always does, frank. >> there is a big rig that spilled fuel there at 101 at matilda at the off ramp. one of our crews is there too. you will see our truck there as well. we will show you pictures in a moment. right now i will tell you it's not causing a big traffic jam on 101. highway four looks pretty good as welcoming up to -- looks pretty good as coming up to the willow pass grade. northbound 880, southbound 880 that traffic is moving along nicely. one more thing here we will look at the san mateo bridge westbound 92 looks pretty good out to the high-rise. steve. >> sal. >> at sp weather. >> that is right. twitter is my friend. if you have any weather information it helps. fog and drizzle. clear.

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. >> bret: even with rumsfeld gone, a growing color russ demanded america get out of the -- growing chorus out of the car. almost 3 americans died in a rack. >> 6 in 10 feel it was a mistake to go to war. >> we didn't get elected to be popular. our mission is to do everything we can to prevail in what is now we believe a global conflict, fundamental test of the character of the american people. whether or not we are going to prevail against one of the most evil opponents we've ever faced. >> bret: i guess the question most americans have is how much is enough? >> any casualty is regrettable. we need not to fold our tent and go home. go we do that we validate the strategy. >> bret: when the bipartisan iraq study group recommended a phased withdrawal in december 2006. cheney thought i was a horrible idea. he backed instead president bush's plan to send more troops to defeat the terrorists. and the surge worked. in bush's second term, cheney hardly won every argument. the administration began an policy of engagement, with hostile rejeeps in north korean -- north koreaia and iran. cheney oppos