this is provocative by china's standards. we'll see russia and china being pushed together by what they see as you less aggression. imran: clearly, moscow will welcome any kind of support for russia in this particular time. but isn't the cost of this slightly too high? dmitry: there are no such fears in russia because compared to what we have from the european union from the united states, being a junior partner to china is not such a terrible perspective. i agree with the previous speaker from beijing that basically russia and china both feel threatened by the modern west, by its ideology which views any country that don't fit their ultraliberal narrative as enemies. if you compare shanghai cooperation organisation to nato and the european union, nato and the european union busters have summed it more belligerent. sco usually begins with the statement that says the organization is not aimed toward any country. nato is the opposite. this is the kind of rhetoric that makes them very angry in russia and china. in that case, president xi and pre

secondly, russia wants to sell more oil and gas to china. it's crucially important for russia regarding the fact that it is under the heavy sanctions imposed by the western western countries. and it wants to a to find out more resources for revenues to protect his economy from a collapse this by china being the number one client for the russian energy. it also wants to have more alternatives. so did the chinese leader, she gp was in kazakhstan, right? ahead of the a did the chunk i cooperation or organization summit in as becky stant to seek for increasing add increasing the that the gas import from kaiser kristen and export say that the reason for that. one of the reasons for that is that china doesn't want it relations with russia to come at the expense of at the cost of its relations with the west rest. who said that for inside story now is russell mentioned. china has avoided openly supporting russia's invasion of ukraine, but in the past week, beijing's 3rd highest ranking leader made his strongest statements yet, the lower house of russ

for russia and this is quite pragmatic, because china does not benefit from the weakening of russia ifespecially, god forbid from the chinese point of view. yes , somehow it will fall under the influence of the west, china will remain one on one with it, and they, as pragmatic people, believe that russia should be supported, but uh. i think it's possible here, uh like , uh, open measures. so some, well, like measures that maybe won't come to the surface. here, i'll give you, uh, the example of north korea. yes, china and russia have joined the sanctions and china has always supplied a lot of all sorts of goods there. uh, including fuel oil, for example, different there energy carriers, yes, then it was banned, but for some reason it was still in the north korea, you know, maybe something like that will come from russia from russia, of course, i can’t give 100%, but i have such the feeling that the chinese comrades will find some way. uh, so to speak, how to always carry out your plans. i fully agree with alexander vladimirovich that it is unlikely that russia and china will formalize a

i think the china, once russia to make renewed push to an hostilities, would you say that china is, is, is worried, or is becoming more worried about the long term fall out from russia's invasion of ukraine. i mean, is that what does that play here? absolutely. as i said, is committed to go, you know, my sense is that china probably expected that ukraine would capitulate very quickly . ukraine with a western support has proven to be a formidable competitor, and of course brushes military as well heads as under performed. so i think the china is very concerned. first of all, it's concerned by the same extra analogies of the war that many other countries are concerned about. it's concerned about disruptions to global energy market. it's concerned about disruptions to global food markets. so it's concerned about those extra analogies which will only worsen as a war continues, but it is also concerned about, as i mentioned, it's transatlantic ties. and although you're china and russia, they will strengthen their embrace to often growing pressure from advanced industrial democracies, partic

and evan maderos has famously referred to this as china and russia policy tri, lemme. china's primal tediously wants to demonstrate that remains committed to upholding sovereignty and territorial integrity. it wants to maintain its relationship with russia, and it also wants to maintain its relationships in the west. that's a very difficult balancing act. and the longer the war goes, the harder the bouncing ac is going to come from aging. and beijing and she's in ping is watching everything that's happening in ukraine. he sees the economic sanctions. he also sees unity within nato. and, and i'm wondering, is that influencing his calculus when it comes to the future of taiwan? it's a very important question, i think. and there are many, there are many lessons that one can draw. you know, my sense is that china recognizes now given the difficulty to the rush, one given the military difficulties in russia has had invading a territory the contiguous neighbor imagine how much harder it would be for trying to take him to the landing staging and him to be landing is orders of magnitude more

and we have to zoom out of it and look at the big picture. russia, china preferred russia in the tent, but outside the tent because we saw what happened in 2014, with the war in crimea. that that was kind of china strategy for the belgian road initiative. and so they realize that if they didn't include russia, that they would hamper their efforts for their big quest for central asian strategy . so i think clearly she jumping, understand, he has to work to put him. let me just ask you to speculate. we got 30 seconds here . when the doors are shut, do you think there she's paying says to vladimir putin? look, you've got to bring this more to an end and you green. well, i would love to be a fan of that painting and know what they ask because putin has a very big ego in. this is probably the worst optics for him. the timing of this a c o meeting. so he really comes to a very week after the ukranian advanced 10 days ago. so i think that she didn't ping, it might try to encourage him. she could, you know, play the big peacemaker if you want. but i, it's also dangerous relationship. i know t

closer together economically. chinese products have replaced western ones and russia, while china is russia's biggest oil customer. she, jim ping sees the global role of the 2 countries going much further than trade corporation. in the future to be a china, together with russia, is ready to accept the part of great power long and all over. he ran to play a leading role in being of force for stability and positive energy in a world shaken by social unrest. joe drew the she did cruel when being she turned, as their leaders talking, as pakistan, china and russia are carrying out join military exercises near the pacific coast. the shanghai corporation organization includes many of the former soviet republics and central asia, as well as india and pakistan. iran has expressed interest in joining turkey whose president is attending the summer. con summit is a full dialogue partner put in and reject it on our set to meet on friday. theresa fallon, founder and director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies in brussels, explained a cryptic message from putin that he's aware of bei

russia. well, china is russia's biggest oil, customer shooting, ping, cease the global roll of the 2 countries as much more than just trade cooperation. in day she's year to be a china, together with russia is ready to accept the part of great power even going on. the van to play a leading role in being of force for stability and positive energy in a world shaken by social unrest. no ga the should yet true rule when being seen a tongue as their leaders talk in was becky, stan, china and russia are carrying out joint military exercises near the pacific coast. and my 1st gift tonight is ali. while i'm a senior analyst with eurasia groups, macro geo politics practice, his focus is on us china relations and competition between world powers. he's also the author of. busy america's great power opportunity, revitalized u. s. foreign policy to meet the challenges of strategic competition in the alley, joins me to night from washington d. c. ali. it's good to have you on the show. let me ask you about what we heard, or maybe what we didn't hear, did a volunteer boot and said that he understands that sh

the big picture. russia, china prefers have russia in the tent, but outside the tent because we saw what happened in 2014, with the war in crimea. that, that was kind of a strategy for the belgian road initiative. and so they realize that if they didn't include russia, that they would hamper their efforts for their big west for central asian strategy . so i think clearly she jumping, understand, he has to work to put in, well, i would love to be a fun while at that beginning and know what they ask because he has a very big ego. it's in this is probably the worst optics for him. the timing of this as you know, meeting. so he really comes to a very week after the ukranian advanced 10 days ago. so i think that she didn't ping, it might try to encourage him. she could, you know, play the big piece maker if you want. but i, it's also dangerous relationship. you know, they are shared huge border. russia has nuclear weapons. she jumping and put in are both kind of unpredictable leaders of mine. so i think he has very, very cautious and almost massage buttons, ego perhaps, and reassure him.

russia. well, china is russia's biggest oil, customer shooting, ping cease the global role of the 2 countries as much more than just trade cooperation. when they should be a china, together with russia, is ready to accept the part of great power even going on even to play a leading role in being a force for stability and positive energy in a world shaken by social unrest. georgia, this is it true when being seen as the lead, as talking was pakistan, china and russia carrying out joint military exercises near the pacific coast. but theresa fallon, she is the founder and director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies in brussels. and earlier she explained this cryptic message from vladimir putin today that he is aware of beijing's concerns over the war in ukraine . i think it's important that he acknowledges that chinese economy is under stress because a food shortage is an increase in inflation. so i think that this is kind of put in acknowledging that nevertheless they've made really good deal because the oil is discounted by about 35 percent. so time is able to buy oil at a very che

let's start with the ties between china and russia. first, are we looking at both countries reaffirming their nor limits partnership agreed to back in february? i think a big part of this is about reaffirming the time between basic and moscow that certainly the message that she and guten are hoping to send to the world and especially to the west. but it mustn't there, there the discussion about it, no limits. partnership. i think we've all learned in the last 7 months of war back there is actually limits. so as much as china, how, you know, stood by russia throughout the war and providing some diplomatic support and also, you know, bought out things like cheap brush in energy that didn't put onto the market and supporting the ration to call you back the way china has also been very cautious not to explicitly endorsed the invasion of ukraine, and also had just generally tried to walk away from some of the spider appointment to avoid secondary sanctions on its own economy. so i think we're going to see you strategy in a line bill. but th

, and we had to zoom out of it and look at the big picture. russia, china prefers have russia in the tent that outside the tent because we saw what happened in 2014, with the war in crimea. that's, that was kind of china strategy for the belt road initiative. and so they realize that if they didn't include russia, that they would hamper their efforts for their big west for central asian strategy . so i think clearly she jumping, understand, he has to work to put him and yet the straddle, both work because he has to kind of keep everybody sweet and to keep the european suite. but he's also close to russia. so they described as the closest relationship between russia and china in 300 years. so he has to kind of calibrate his message so carefully even to the central asians that he'll be speaking to because they're neurologic when they hear, when they watch what it has done and you can and he's making messages or signs. you might do that again in the former soviet space. so the message that she jumping in kazakhstan, saying we support your sovereignty was a key message

russia and china. i've taken the lead in pushing for a world order based on their toms, and it is the meeting of the shanghai corporation organization. could be an important 1st step. we'd have expert analysis and fishermen on the north coast of she lanka, fighting for their livelihoods at a time. they can barely afford to power their boats. ah, i'm british minded. you welcome to deduct your news asia. glad you could join us. a series of meetings involving russia and china begin to day at a regional summit that both countries hope will challenge a u. s. lead international order being held in that was big city of summer gunned, the leaders meeting of the so called shanghai cooperation organization takes place today and tomorrow. the group comprises 8 members, including china, russia, india, and the central asian republics of kazakhstan. gig is done tajikistan and others. iran just applied to be a member. the su was formed some 20 years back and is a political, economic and strategic grouping of nations.

yes, that is, of course, china did not criticize russia of course. n a russian-friendly stance on the ukrainian conflict and has accused nato that it was nato policy, united states policy, that made the conflict. inevitable, but still, here it is said in american means media that china nonetheless positioned itself as a neutral country. but now, when he meets with putin during the russian special operation in ukraine, he will no longer be able to be considered neutral. and therefore , the positivity of the united states towards china will be even tougher, probably will be even more aggravated, the taiwanese conflict, probably, really new sanctions and so on, how will china react to this and, but, probably, will be strengthened russian chinese relations. here is what you expect in terms of strengthening the russian-chinese partnership. i remember how vladimir vladimirovich putin spoke about the end of the events in the crimea in the fourteenth year, that the sanctions and the process were somehow negative for the russian economy. would have been introd

it promising to develop cooperation with china and mongolia in the energy sector on the agenda of the construction of the soyuz vostok gas pipeline from russia to china through mongolia . mirziyoyev, these negotiations promise to be maximally saturated relations between russia and uzbekistan are now experiencing an unprecedented rise , developing in all possible directions, and today it is planned to sign a declaration on a comprehensive strategic partnership. we will follow natalya well, yes, i understand, thanks to robert frantsev with the details of the first day of the sco summit in samarkand, but we are now waiting for the negotiations between vladimir putin and shavkat mirziyoyev. during this meeting, the russian president will present the leader of uzbekistan order of alexander nevsky, a declaration on a comprehensive strategic partnership between russia and uzbekistan will also be signed. well, in continuation of the conversation about the economic agenda of the summit, the show with russian deputy prime ministers alexander novak commented on the decision of the european union to withdraw excess profits from energy companies. well, h

so as much as china has stood by russia throughout the war and provide them diplomatic support and also, you know, bought out things like cheap brush in energy. that's been put onto the market and supporting the russian to call you that way. china has also been very cautious not to explicitly endorsed the invasion of ukraine, and also has just generally tried to walk away from some of the spider appointment to avoid secondary sanctions on its own economy. so i think we're going to see you straddling a line bill. but the other methods that they want offended that basic and mock out their ties have not been broken, even if on culture scrutiny that i'd be strained. and i want to see a demonstration of this, the se, meeting itself. i'm the reason i ask is because we heard 2nd general john being saying that the, if the represents a new type of international relations, the kremlin, has talked of an alternative to western centric organizations. i'll be there foreseeing the beginnings of a new counter to the western global order. well, that's certainly the, the main for it and kind of the glue

i'm not joining the west to century russia. china stay with russia, actually. sword china as crew oil imports from russia. so at 55 percent from a year earlier to rec, about 4 in may display things, saudi arabia at the top supplier to china. during the foreign patient and li, john, she, they stressed the importance of a multi polar world. there's a big emphasis on this topic. do you think china and russia are going to be the main players in moving towards this mostly polar world? as surely they are in china. russia are the main players of the briggs countries alongside with india, pursue and south africa, different nations have a combined population of about 3000000000 and they combined g d p. it's more than 23 true year while the well, she defeats only $85.00 trillion. so we'll display the 5 countries combined to make up about 42 percent of the world's population and above 27 percent of the was g. d p. the bricks paula ship was established not only to provide a counter wasted g 7, but also to strengthen the individual nations diplomatic insecurity efforts around the world are combini

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alluding to russia and china. he was in japan and in a speech said this is not an era of development, this is an area not an era of expansionism, it should be an era of development. and he criticized countries with 18th-century mindsets that were encroaching onother countries lands . so he's echoing something he said before about the fact that he's gone public is significant. i think india's support for russia has been exaggerated in the past and i think now we're in danger of maybe over reading the rebuke because do not expect india to give up that russia relationship but it is nonetheless significant that india has for modi has spoken out publicly and expressed those concerns, concerns expressed privately in the past because they recognize the longer this continues the more the damage those interests that i outlined in the beginning as well as the fact that they recognize is not costly strategy to be seen amongst other partners as seeming to only support for kind of not speak out against russia so i stop and can

last year, trade between russia and china reached a record $140 billion. accordingly, this year, taking into account western sanctions against russia and intensification of trade relations. naturally, a new record will be set, in addition, more. uh, in addition, the transition to settlements in national currencies is being discussed back in vladivostok at the eastern economic forum between gazprom and the chinese giant with npc, an agreement was reached to pay in rubles and yuan 50 to 50. and i want to draw your attention. we have the opportunity here at the negotiations to work only with a limited number of journalists, respectively, the composition of the film crew is limited, therefore let's go live from your phone now. and i will now switch the camera phone and show you. actually. you see the journalists. right there in the hall. right now, preparations are underway for the apparently next event, immediately after the bilateral negotiations between russia and china are completed here. here in the same building begins with trilateral talks between russia

and china, as well as projects for the construction of a gas pipeline from russia to china through the territory of mongolia, mongolia, russia, china, which are traditionally held as part of a meeting of the council of heads of state of the member states of the saharan cooperation organization ladies, gentlemen, i am sure that the decision documents will be adopted at this regular meeting of the council. sco heads of state, even more strengthen, the reputation of this organization really contributes to the development and prosperity of the participating countries. to the chairman of the show, mr. prime minister moti , i would like to conclude that mongolia will continue to actively cooperate with the sco with observer members in the interests of ensuring peace and security in the region and the development of our countries, the prosperity and well-being of our peoples, which were prone to severe flooding and words of support render to say on behalf of my people thank you for your attention. thank you dear mr. president for his speech and proposals. we have ample op

china. and he said that the u. s. and nato threatened russia, it's home door, forced into a corner and said that china understood russia and would assist russia. so this is a very clear backing. so at this moment it looks like china is backing russia. however, that could change, given the current situation, the current military situation, nobody really likes to back a loser. and you know, things could be different, but in many ways it's a win win, because if russia wins than russian, china has a strong ally in europe. and if russia loses in ukraine, then russia effectively becomes a vassal state to, to beijing because it's, it's got these sort of strong economic ties that very briefly, does all this suggest that china is essentially willing to sacrifice its relation relations with the west. in addition to fight with russia, when i think i'm trying to needs your western tech and it needs, it still needs western trade. on the other hand, china has been acting a lot more ideological than strategic in recent times. so it's very possible that it cou

russia's knew no limits. partnership with china is not new of mikhail. it was cemented in fact as the olympics opened in china already before the russian invasion of ukraine. but what was india doing at the party the olympics opened in china already before the russian invasion do you, what significance would you attach to? the fact the olympics opened in china already before the russian invasion that indian forces also took part in this drill? i think that was important for vladimir putin to show that india, the other very populous nation on the southern asian think that was important for vladimir putin to show that continent is part of that new alliance which basically he sees in terms of the rest, which is the majority of the world against the west. this is what he wants to put on display. um i found it very interesting that you saw nations like india and china and russia, they're in a maneuver and it was clearly visible that they were not an alliance that you had rather armies being cobbled together for this for these exercises. whereas other nations

china. we have to look at the big picture. cha prefers russia in the tent. saw what happened in 2014 with the war in crimea. that was china possible strategy for the belton road initiative. they realized if they did not include russia, they would hamper efforts for their central asia sategy. xi understands he has to work with student and straddle both worlds. has to keep the european sweets but is also close to russia. they described it as the closest relationship between china and russia in 300 years. he has to calibrathis message carefuy, even to the central asian's, because they are neurologic when they watch what putin has done in ukraine and he is making signs he might do that again. the message that xi jinping sendis that we support your sovereignty, a key message to say to putin in code, you are not going to do what you did in ukraine and kazakhstan. >> i would assume xi jinping has to be aware that whatever he does with russia is going to be watched closely by the european union and by the u.s.. he is walking a tightrope here, isn't he? he does not w

since at the start off of the board, china has stood firmly by russia's side. china hasn't condemned trash, a so called special needs operation, and china also hasn't joined to western sanctions against russian. i'm with russia facing international sanctions because of the war in ukraine. it's relationship with china must be increasingly important. absolutely. china hasn't only been important for russia since february 24th. but already since 2014, when russia annexed, gray mia all ready? back then, there was suddenly a big rift in relations between moscow and to the west, and that was at the moment when the russia recognized the importance of china for itself. now, china is supposed to compensate economically for every things that the russians are suddenly missing because of the impact of western sanctions. militarily, there was an obvious closing off ranks of the other day during the giant, militaristic sizes in russia's far east. we saw it in the report as the chinese participated in them this year and have been a regular guest at russian built exercises for some time already. or w

it is also a response to the us sanctions imposed on china and russia that this change tells us about their relationship with china and they are in the dollar as the main official world reserve currency and about future relations between the two countries. this says a lot, it shows that china and russia are much closer to each other than previously thought that they want to trade in their currencies means that another currency block in the world separate from dollars is being created. this is what we call de-dalarization, but the question is how much benefit it will bring to russia and china, the dominance of the dollar, although not directly, but it means us dominance, it gives the us huge opportunities. influence countries through sanctions, raising interest rates, tightening monetary policy de-dalorization can help prevent all of this from reducing america's influence on the global economy. russia is following this path, since 2014 their assets in dollars are only 16% of the total. in 2013, 95% of russia's trade with the brix countries was in dollars. and today it is less than 10%,

president of ukraine proposed a new draft security guarantee, in which now no longer includes russia chinaa guarantor of ukraine's security. in addition, this new amended document no longer has a neutral status for ukraine, which fixes its plans to join nato and is also a guarantee of security, according to ukrainians. now they should already extend to the territory of donbass and the territory of crimea, which, as we know, kiev considers its own in this regard. eh, this is a very strong difference from previous projects. well, in addition, the new draft security guarantee implies lifting of sanctions against russia. so, accordingly, we asked dmitry peskov to comment. and what will happen if someone from the countries of europe really gives such guarantees to ukraine as for the security guarantee for ukraine, which can potentially be given? that's all the same what will be our actions in the event that such will be given in a new interpretation, guarantees of security guarantees of ukraine's security maybe only the leadership of ukraine will understand, uh, understand the hopelessness of t

are that there was on the way, on iran for, for decades now, on russia, on china. and they have been escalating tensions in i, in, on lands around russia around china, the same pattern that they've been doing. so iran, so iran could be of much help to both of them. i mean, they can have your own experience and they can also help iran with economy with, you know, or standing in qual, aleutians like the shanghai. so it's pretty well important. and that's why the americans have been very vocal in opposition to our not iran's iran, russia and china getting closer to each other. while you've spoke a lot about the sanctions, and we have to mention that both russia and iran are now 2 of the most sanctioned countries in the world when it comes to the west. obviously one of the goals of these sanctions is to isolate the 2 countries. but how would you assess the success of the sanctions in doing that? they have failed. you know, sanctions are not the a, not the target, but a tool. this is what donald trump never realized, but the democrats are free to understand what on tip.

china be pushed too far? you mentioned a loose alliance. they're talking about tighter relationships and ties. and it goes beyond just russia and china. it doesn't, it? that's right. i mean, recent days you've seen the 1st a rainy and military drone show up in ukraine. the ukrainians are very unhappy about this. so iran and russia, there's been a lot more closeness between around and, and other countries in this s. c o grouping into shanghai cooperation organization, grouping. so definitely there's more and more cooperation and the point will be these countries, as i said, as i say they share authoritarian leanings. but traditionally, even russia and china, whenever they've gotten to close something as always happens, it's very difficult for them to get very, very close. so it's the question is going to be whether they can actually keep in step both politically and economically long enough for this to make change for these changes to happen at china analyst. clifford coon and thank you very much for coming in european commission president herself on the line is in ukraine for the 3rd time since the start of the war. visit comes as russ

so i have a sign of trusted anyways that both russia and china can afford to expand last on guarding their own border, which is no small thing because it's for more than 4000 kilometers long. and essentially russia can now divert it's attention to the west. china can deal with its problems in the pacific and the 2 are essentially standing back to back. i don't know how long it will historically last, and that's why i wanted to ask you, do you think this current level of trust when you can turn your back to, you know, a country with which we also had to border disputes in the past. do you think it's primarily necessitated by the difficulties with the west or it can sustain itself? historically? this is a big question and this all depends on how you manage your, by later traditions that china in the past you had problems incent, alicia rate in future. also, no country would like to see another country with the large military next door. and particularly if that country turns to be the future is send it want to or to the geography. these concerns must think that's a real prospect though,

so the corporation between china and russia is something that japan really looks at in detail. so these kind of common naval exercises are something that is also designed to signal to tokyo rushes, a new no limits partnership with china is not new. mikhail, it was cemented in fact, as the olympics opened in china already before the russian invasion of ukraine. but what was india doing at the party? do you, what is it significant? would you attach to the fact that indian forces also took part in this drill? i think that was important for vladimir putin is to show that india, the very populous nation on the southern asian continent is part of that new alliance, which basically he sees in terms of the rest of which is the majority of the world against the west. this is what he wants to put on display. i found it very interesting that you saw nations like india and china and russia there in a maneuver. and it was clearly visible that they were not in alliance, that you had rather armies being cobbled together for this, for these exercises. whereas other nations in central asian nati

before which is try to not necessarily but have some sort of engagement with russia that would keep some options that are not china. but i will come back to that maybe. i would say more broadly i think this is all caught up. the relations as well as how russia and china relations operate. what we've seen in terms of the impact on the policy is that it is complicated ties with a country that india is complicated and now since about 92,000 several administrations have invested considerable amounts a of resources. partly on the assumption butso also in alignment with the u.s. and partners would serve as a a balancee and contrast. as several administrations this has complicated friction into the relationship. one thing that leads to the tie is with the european partners the differences of russia have been known and they've created problems even as recently purchasing the missile defense system so that isn't news but i do think india's response has raised questions in the administration and the establishment more broadly about what the response means for its view towards the international border more broadly and kinda

is against close the ties between china, russia and a wrong iran, russia and china. it's highly important that these 3 countries come together on their umbrellas like the shanghai organization, not just for the security reasons, but also for economic reasons as well. especially considering that the u. s. has been redoing it. sanctions pattern are that there was on the way, on iran for, for decades now, on russia and china. and they have been escalating tensions in i, in on lands around russia, around china, the same pattern that they've been doing to iran. so iran could be of much help to both of them. i mean, they can have years experience and they can also help iran with economy with, or are standing in qual, lucius, like the shanghai. so it's pretty well important. and that's why the americans have been very vocal in opposition to are not iran's or iran, russia and china getting closer to each other. and while western powers have been stonewalling efforts to end the ukraine conflict, many other countries have been resolving their long standing issues without the f

say that well, let's again crank out that old strategy of a brush, heat, that is, try to pit russia against chinatemporarily, having reconciled russia and so further, but maybe if the republicans really come into office in 24, which is january 25, they'll try to arrange. well, some temporary respite to say that well, now we will somehow make up a little bit temporarily let's save face, then we will refocus on china and we will try to play russia out of china somehow i think that it is worth preparing for this of course, you should never relax. if this happens, that's but such a scenario, in my opinion more than likely. and uh, too, well, in many ways, it will probably break the current strategy of war of attrition, which is planned for many years to come. well, at least 2 years and a half years. i think that it will last, but then everything will depend on how, of course, the political situation in the west destabilizes, how much the elites change. i think that this question is still open, that is, but i suggest not to wait for something to change and destabilize. well if so, but we must navigate

we look at trade right now, considering this war, is this relationship in which both sides, russia and china, are equals. do i do not think so, or chain or receive is oil, gas and cold from russia and supports or export in machinery, consumer goods and a lot of other things. and the balance of trade is in favor of russia. if we well focus on the price of energy commodities, but technically speaking, arrested depends on china much more than china depends on the rest. and to what extent can russia replace energy trade with europe through trade with china? this has been the big question now since the war began. it was done possible to increase crude oil deliveries to china because of transportation, the limitations. so the pipeline that goes to china cannot handle more. busy than, well, 1300000 barrels start day. and basically this is the limit in terms of gas supply. china do not need the, an increase of supply from russia. because right now there is just one pipeline that goes from the site. the area across the board to china in it is go into reach its name, played capacity of 38000000000 cub

china. depends on the rest. into what extent can russia replace energy trade with europe through trade with china? this has been the big question now since the war began. it has been possible to increase crude oil deliveries to china because of transportation. the limitations of the pipeline that goes to china cannot handle more than well. 1.3000000 barrels start day. and basically this is the limit in terms of gas supply. china do not need an increase of supply from russia, because right now there is just one pipeline that goes from the site barrier. across the board to china. in it is go into reach its name plate capacity of 38000000 cubic meters a year in the 2025 only. there are no other ways to increase guess deliveries from rest of the chain. how badly our sanctions hitting rushes ability to maintain and build out its energy sector. it has of course, ambitions to build up more connections with china as you just finished. mentioned with some pipelines, for example. yes. where expected a meeting between the, the leader over china, russ