ryan: this has been quite a year.ughter] ryan: when i spoke on this stage less margin was just a few months into the shop. it was spring break, i brought my kids with me. i've not even decked out my office and packers gear until they asked me, where you want to go on your first overseas trip as speaker of the house? the answer was obvious. i would return to the jewish democratic state of israel. ] heers and applause my first trip as speaker. it was an incredible visit. from the unparalleled security cooperation to the miracle of the dome, i saw firsthand difference our support to israel makes. any american who has ever traveled there has heard the same thing from political leaders to everyday citizens you mean on the street. thank you america, thank you. [applause] rep. ryan: you see, israel does not take our support for granted and neither should we. the u.s.-israel relationship is not a one-way street. strategic partnership rooted in shared values and interests. i want to speak candidly for a second. these past eigh

speaker ryan has failed. he has screwed it up to a fare-thee-well the one piece of legislation that was supposed to be his absolute signature, that is ryan care, the repeal and replacement and it does neither, and we're watching a severe backlash within the republican party. >> well, i think the large part of that is the way they're trying to govern the caucusment the one thing we learned is the republican caucus is full of entrepreneurs. they have a bunch of ideas and think on their own. the idea you have a monolithic approach, a take-it-or-leave-it from the top down is antithetical to how the average house member works. i remember when speaker gingrich was elected in '94, we had 55 new members. we had fire brands, but at the end of the day, it was let's hear all the ideas, make it transparent, open, everybody puts ideas in and i think that's what president trump wants. if you remember, he began with it's open to negotiation because he wants the best proposal for america, not just the one that everybody sett

one is speaker ryan, who today did not seem to be glum. he looked like he was the going to be late to class. but nonetheless, it was an inconcent yens, and you -- connecticut ve-- inconvenience, you look at president trump he looked like a man who lost a contest, i find it interesting that president took this moreperson alley than man who authored this. that speaks to why paul ryan lost. >> i think that president wanted this win, he knew it was important for country, he talked to people all over the country who clearly wanted this to happen, before he is finished he will get this fixed. lou: he was the right, he said, very simply that practical, political matter, republicans should not touch obamacare, and let the democrats sink with it. once again, his view has been supported by the reality, and he has another opportunity to see that occur. and i think she is right, that is when bipartisan act will take place. ed rollins thank you. >> thank you. >> great to see you. lou: vote in our poll, do you believe that democrats will be begging pres

it has worked for paul ryan. and only for paul ryan. you could have gone through the entire day of today's coverage of the story and not heard a single reference to that fact. "i had to brief the speaker first." that line. that quote. the fact that devin nunes went to paul ryan first has gone virtually completely unnoticed, except on this program last night, because devin nunes has kept talking and kept contradicting himself, suggesting he knows that donald trump himself was one of the people mentioned in the intelligence reports that he saw, then suggesting he doesn't know the names of the people who were mentioned in the intelligence reports that he saw, but it was easy to guess who they were. devin nunes keeps talking in confusing circles. and tonight devin nunes is clinging to the wreckage of his chairmanship. he might be able to put it back together. he might be able to hold on to that chairmanship. but he had better never get caught singing this again. "i had to brief the speaker first." joining us now, democratic congressman eric

paul ryan, yes, i have a soul. panel remains with me. >> robert costa, it is your new reporting that started all of this off. what's going on between the white house and which elements of the white house and the speaker. >> on the service, the relationship is cordial and professional between the white house and the speaker. the president had a 4:00 call today with speaker ryan. there are a lot of forces. we talk about the freedom causes and congress. my colleague really zoned in tonight of the populist. >> all the different people that we detail in our article tonight are telling the white house and trump himself to back away. >> ali velshi, is the head lain of this plan we know it is dead and that's the effort to name it ryan care on its way to the grave. >> it is interesting how this did not play well. the white house thought it would go over better with conservatives. the problem is healthcare is something that you have to think about ideologically. either you believe everybody should have healthcare and every d

rachel: everyone likes paul ryan in the house conference.an family that has all their fights out in the open. i think the process is healthier and more transparent. in the end we'll get a better bill. lou: i'm sure he's a lovely fellow. but he's incompetent. he never achieved anything in congress. he hasn't passed significant legislation. he has been there for 18 years. two years as speaker. what do you say? rain rrp budget reform -- rachel: budget reform wasn't even a thought in the process until paul ryan. the democrats look united, but it's all under the surface and they rig their election. lou: who would want to fight with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer? rachel: they are going come back with a better bill. lou: who will be the speaker when they do? rachel: paul ryan will be the speaker. lou: the result has been crickets. what do you think, lou? gayle: i think rachel is right, paul ryan is your typical d.c. thought leader and not a do-leader. we were talking about the replacement for speaker boehner that paul ryan had to be persuaded to b

house of representatives will ryan -- paul ryan. ♪ speaker ryan: hello aipac. this is awesome. wow.ook at you all. howardto thank lillian, and by buddy howard friedman. thank you for having me here again this year. [applause] it is so great to be back at aipac. i was just kind of thinking what happened to that turntable thing from last year? i liked it. sometimes it just feels like politicians are talking in circles. last year we actually did. debt first,how many how many people do we have from wisconsin? awesome, good to see you guys. i have been coming to this conference nearly every year since i arrived in congress. how couldi as myself they possibly get more people than the last year and here you are, you have done it again. this is really, really incredible. [applause] as i look around here, you know what inspires me the most? peopleso many young here. so many people from all walks of life, but especially i am encouraged to see so many young people. i'm especially encouraged to see i want young people that everybody else to give you a round of applause. thank you so much for ta

ryan is what he has got.e hasn't had a full-scale revolt againt ryan, but remember he told everyone to watch judge janine -- charlie: i know. who asked for ryan's resignation. robert: at the top of her show on fox news. and then the white house officials and ryan spokespeople said there was nothing to see here. he was trying to promote a friend's show. that is the line, but around town and behind the scenes, people are saying the president knew what he was doing when he told people to watch her show. charlie: he knew she was going to say that and wanted people to consider that question. robert: if not explicitly knowing it, i've been told by top sources that he at least knew the direction that she was likely going to head, that she was frustrated on trump's behalf, whether she might take a knife to ryan politically or not, maybe he didn't know that. it was not in the script. but the president is not tweeting about every television show out there, but he did tweet about the one show that went after the speaker

breitbart hates ryan. considers him -- i mean, i always knew paul ryan to be very conservative.ley: he's more moderate compared to -- >> he's more moderate compared to not just meadows but the main line conservatives. he's -- and trump conservatives. he's for some sort of immigration reform. you know, he was for the bank bailouts, which bannon hates and is hates immigration reform. so that's where this pressure is coming from. it's dual. coming from the house conservatives members. ashley: so does paul ryan become the scapegoat if this thing goes down? >> knowing what i know about donald trump, i don't care what he said today, he will point the finger at somebody, and it's going to be paul ryan. ashley: isn't that the joke when the owner of the team says we have the full support of the manager. you know that man is going to get fired? >> yeah. the most powerful man inside that white house besides the president is not mike pence but steve bannon and steve bannon does not want paul ryan to continue as speaker. and the name he's telling people about, he's raising is this guy meadow

ryan that's two questions -- mr. ryan: that's two questions. first, i would refer you to the senate judiciary committee. i checked the transcript. so i can't speak to what the judiciary committee transcript. is frankly i haven't read. that should he recuse himself? i think he answered that question this morning. if he himself is the subject of an investigation, of course he would. if he's not, i don't see any purpose or reason to doing this. let's take a step back for a second here. number one. we know that russia tried to meddle in the election. why do we know this? because we in congress and the intelligence community did an investigation after the election which discovered russia was trying to meddle in the election. this is something we all well know. here's another thing. we have seen no evidence from any of these ongoing investigations that anybody in the trump campaign or the trump team was involved in any of this. we have been presented with no evidence that an american wases colluding with the russians to meddle in the elections. this

i mean, there's only one paul ryan, and if not paul ryan, who else is going to take over as the house leader? i mean, it's a very difficult position to be in. now, there are many, many, many people in washington, d.c., who could be reince priebus and who could be chief of staff. and if you are donald trump and you feel that you need to blame somebody, it's much easier blaming the guy who you can replace than blaming the guy who is essentially not replaceable at this time. so you know, i think that that talk has -- there's a little bit that backs that up. >> and azi, there seems to be the issue beyond the collapse of health care, the ripple effect to tax reform, the issue we saw as we opened this show, with lindsey graham talking about being able to lower the corporate tax rate and the boos that the audience gave him in response to that. is that going to be an even tougher sell? >> you know, you just sort of electr electrified voters by threatening to take away some essential health care insurance that they've gotten used to or began to understand during this debate. now you're going t

speaker ryan: sure it's unorthodox. you see him yesterday in detroit and tennessee, the president has a connection with individuals in this country. he goes -- no offense -- but he goes around the media and connects with people, specifically and individually. this is a power that we haven't enince ronald reagan. and so what this president is showing is that he knows how to connect directly with people. that helps us bridge gaps in congress and get republicans unified so we can deliver on our promises and that is extremely constructive. reporter: just a quick follow-up. for the past few weeks, months, we do hear about a lot of intrigue going on between you and the president. how often do you and donald trump address a lot of these reports that there's constant tension going on between both of you? speaker ryan: there really isn't. we talk about this fairly often, the president and i do. i would say there is no intrigue, divisions between the principles. i can't speak for low-level staffers. i can't speak for outside grou

trump doesn't have that but he embraced the ideology of ryan because ryan and mcconel and the senate, majority leader seem to understand how government works. and trump is such a rookie at this in many ways. he is on the scene. he's gone along with them. the question i have as a reporter, i'm sure many people do out in the country is what now. >> rose: also this evening robert draper has a fascinating article in the "new york times" magazine called trump versus congress, now what. >> the president will turn the page, go on to tax reform. he is eager most of all, charlie to put up as he calls it, a win. the problem all along has been what institutes-- constitutes a win. he didn't have much of a vision for obamacare and we'll see, his vision is already shifting some what on tax reform. >> rose: we conclude with a conversation about the glass menagerie now on broadway with madison ferris, joe mantello, fin wittrock and sally field. >> we slowly move to the play without them knowing we're quite in it, without us even knowing we're quite in it until slowly the lights are lowering and all o

we'll see what happens to paul ryan who we are about to hear from. paul ryan. steve forbes, veronica daguerre, of "the wall street journal," gary kaltbaum capital management and fox news contributor. steve, why didn't they do taxes first? imagine what they would have avoided? >> david, that is a huge question. also shows the republican leadership in congress, in the house in particular is too obedient to the congressional budget office and this crazy way they have of scoring. they thought if they did health care first they would have more points so to speak to do tax cuts instead of doing tax cuts, saying the heck with the cbo, the congressional budget, do what is right for the economy. david: you have read all the rules, they claim, the establishment republicans claim they could not go to tax cuts first. do they have a leg to stand on there? >> they can find a lot of fall der raul to say yes they do but bottom line, david, they appoint the parliamentarians, they write the rules, interpret rules, if they want to go seriously with tax cuts they should have done

speaker ryan: no, but 95% does. i say we are close. here's the point i'm making here, the democrats aren't for repealing obamacare, we are. we work with democrats all the time. patty murray and i did a big budget agreement. we have long histories working with democrats, i don't think it's a stretch of the mind to suggest that the democrats disagree with us on repealing obamacare. they aren't going to help us repeal obamacare. that's my point. if we do what we said we were going to do is repeal and replace obamacare, something tells me the democratsre going to help us. they created it in the first place. eporter: fiscal 2017, will you send an 11-bill omnibus to the house, will it fund the wall? speaker ryan: the bill hasn't been completed it yet. and it is premature to get into the contents of the bill. there are 11 other bills that we would pass. the question is it one bill, two bills.he senate to decide how they are going package the bill. it's about their calendar and how they work. our goal is to work on the rest of the bills and th

take it from ryan. lou: it looks like leadership of house of ep representatives, have been providing over a -- presiding over a process, and paul ryan, one of the most offencive images is paul ryan with power point presentation with his sleeves rolled up, i guarantee, that is first time rolled his damn sleev up, th bill does not portray a lot of effort this is potentially a dagger to the heart of the republican majority. >> it could be. and by being first it jeopardizes all other reforms taxes and even immigration. lou: then have you geniuses in senate saying, we're not getting to tax reform until the summer, if there is a light breeze bloazing. blowing, you don't know what the hell these people are thinking bull we'll find out. >> thank you. >> you should not get me this excitessed. we're coming right back with much more stay with us. >> president trump vows to save all americans from the imploding obamacare. >> my entire administration and a lot of people in the senate and a lot people in the house, a

ryan is what he is god. -- ryan is what he has got. who asked for ryan's resignation.obert: on fox news. saidhen the officials there was nothing to see here. he was trying to promote a show. -- friend's but around washington, people are saying he knew what he was doing. charlie: he wanted people to consider that question. robert: if not explicitly knowing it, i've been told by top sources that he at least knew the direction that she was likely going to head, that she was frustrated on trumps behalf, that she might take a knife to ryan. about the one show that went after the speaker. charlie: breitbart is supposed to paul ryan, correct? robert: they are, and they used to be run by steve bannon. charlie: but where was bannon? was he overruled or was he saying some thing else? robert: i call them the bannonistas, the people at breitbart who are his friends. they are certainly against the speaker. inside the white house, bannon is more intriguing because he has to be careful. he has been careful and he has not built to any kind of campaign inside the white house against ry

are blaming paul ryan. mentioned the immediate aftermath of the election where everyone was calling trumpflation or reflation. now it is looking pretty good. back to the inflation component, the trade that is sensitive to the idea of a reflationary environment, or getting a different picture? cameron: we are kind of in a cause mode, fixed income -- pause mode, fixed income. you have the fed announcement, we are back in the old range. maybe that is a tactical issue of people who are underweight or short, taking some profit, but if you look at the oil story is another one, it has been a supply factor that has brought the oil price down, but oil going sideways to lower is not consistent with the reflation story, with copper and iron ore. it is a broad pause, but you often see that in march, trending the first couple months of the year often give something back in march before reasserting themselves in the spring. scarlet: a quick note to that we are awaiting speaker ryan to address the public. he was scheduled

and paul ryan did the same. so, look, the fact that he's publicly willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with ryan on this and sort of admit defeat, admit that this didn't work, and he went out of his way to attempt a deflection game. i don't know if it's going to work in the long run, but saying, hey, health care is on democrats now, it's on democrats. but there is something else to read between the lines there, brian, that i know this about this white house and him right now, and his way of throwing out an invitation to democrats. he basically admitted, this is very difficult to do without the help of democrats. well, it wasn't exactly repealing obamacare, that isn't exactly a way to reach out to democrats. but he is basically saying, any democrat that wants to come to me with an idea of messing around with obamacare, he may listen. and it may not happen next week or next month, but if he's -- if the lesson he's taken away from this is, he needs to have a better relationship with democrats in congress if he's g

ryan: i don't think so. i do not think it is prologue brother future things because there are parts of our agenda where people have more agreement. we have more agreement on the need and nature of tax reform, on fund thinking government, on -- funding the government, rebuilding the military, securing the border. -- this issue had a big difference of opinion, not whether we should repeal and replace obamacare but just how we should replace it. and that is the growing pains of governing. we were a 110-year opposition party. where being against things was easy to do. you just had to be against it. now in three months' time we try to go to a governing party where we actually have to get 216 people to agree with each other on how we do things. we just weren't quite there today. we will get there, but we were not there today. reporter: are you going to move ahead with stage two and three legislation? also, you can just talk about how the conference is feeling right now? mr. ryan: the conference is let down feeling

ryan has not been a great speaker. ryan can't control his own caucus. that's never the sign of a strong speaker. but it is possible for paul ryan to rescue this. i don't think it's going to happen, but there's no need to continue this kind of polarized politics. obamacare does have some things that could be fixed. taking 24 million people's health insurance away is not the solution to this. but i bit at least some talks should be have between people who know what they're doing on the hill and this issue to see if there's some common ground. >> charlie, you know paul ryan well. you're from wisconsin. i know you're buddies with him. could you see a scenario in the next hour where he does manage to get the votes and if not, same question i asked before, what happens to paul ryan then? >> well, that's a very good question. it's always possible. i mean, this is one of those pieces of legislation that i thought was going to pass because it had to pass so they're putting pressure on. i think the analysis is they might be able to get it to squeak through. what

ryan: sure. you always have to think about that. i think what the president did the most and gave the best voice to his what i would call the real forgotten man and woman in this country. onehave to remember, i come from wisconsin. -- come from wisconsin. ourometown got crushed when gm plant left in 2009. half the people i went to high school with, their parents worked there, and the idea was you could get a job there. i had buddies from school that works th plant and make six figures. and now have jobs that make them about one third as much. that,k he gave voice to and i think that's real and palpable. i think we have to make sure that our conservative principles actually translate into real tangible results that prove the lives of these men and women who have been forgotten and feel they have been forgotten. refocuses ourhat minds to make sure our policies reflect those things. i think what you have your -- have here is a beautiful fusion. of conservative principles and this healthy populism. is dealing with the economic and frida

ryan: i do. >> house speaker pall ryan

so you have ryan priebus is very good friends with paul ryan.the world would that one be patched up? why would steve bannon be behind this? >> well, that's awfully interesting. i think from the beginning, you now it was going to be a very complicated bromance between donald trump and paul ryan. obviously, you have a complicated bromance between steve bannon and reince priebus. look, can you not overstate how close paul ryan and reince we have bus are. so for this to be going on, it has to be a reflection of things going on inside the white house. we have been getting a lot of happy talk about ryan and trump are absolutely on the same page. priebus and bannon are absolutely on the same page. if that were true, i think it's highly unlikely you would be having this attack from breitbart. also, there is a larger context here, which is to look at how all of trump world is reacting to this it's not just breitbart. it is the dredge report. it is a lot of the spokes people who are most closely associated with trump who have been very quote/unquote anti-

ryan: no and no. reporter: can you talk about exactly what you mean by -- [inaudible] -- on the affordable care act now. obviously -- [inaudible] mr. ryan: probably before then. i won't tell you the timeline. because we want to get it right. we have an aggressive agenda and we've been moving quickly on this aggressive agenda. but we want to make sure we get it right. we had a very constructive meeting with our members. some of those who were in the no camp expressed a willingness to work on getting to yes and to making this work. we want to get it right. we're going to keep talking to each other until we get it right. i'm not going to put a timeline on it because this is too important to not get right. and to put an artificial timeline on it. you're right. the insurers have -- that's why i'm so worried about this issue. this law is collapsing. you're going to see -- if obamacare just stays as is, that's not acceptable for the american people. that's not what we said we would do. so we're going to go f

loss on ryan. after trump set a tweet about janine's fox show another right wing outlet got involved. >> now, i certainly have not spoken with the president about any of this, but i can only imagine that he and his aides took on health care because they believed you had his back and you didn't. paul ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house. >> as these internal republican factions solidify and we learn just how much control trump has over them, perhaps the lesson learned is when your party plays the game of thrones, you win, or your bill and your clout die. joining me now, scott ross, executive director of one wisconsin now, former breitbart media consultant kurt bodela, e.j. dion ne, author with joy reid of "we are the change we seek" and charlie sykes. gentlemen, thank you all very much for being here. kurt, i've got to start with you. you used to work at breitbart, you know steve bannon. i want to throw up this steve bannon quote. it's element one and then we'll go to element two. this is

ryan: i do. thank you. >> house minority leader nancy pelosi and ranking democrats also spoke to reporters. this is about 25 minutes. ms. pelosi: thank you. good afternoon.

the president loves paul ryan, paul ryan loves the president. at some point as we approach 2018 and they have to go back to these districts to get votes, republicans in congress are going to have to blame someone. does that change sooner than getting close to the mid-terms? >> well, i mean, the blame game is already sort of unfolding behind the scenes, at least we're seeing reports from unnamed advisers on capitol hill and in the white house, blaming each other for this unraveling. but as paul ryan said at his press conference yesterday, what this comes down to is that republicans as a whole need to learn how to govern. and this includes the president, who said yesterday in his remarks that he learned a lot from this process. remember, this is someone, president trump, who has he never worked in washington, has never had to try to pass a major piece of legislation or even a minor piece of legislation. and there is a learning curve there. it's not easy to govern. getting elected is one skill set, governing is quite another. so republicans on capi

they never thought was running to be paul ryan. he just decides to get in bedded with ryan who has this generational life long dream of ending the social safety net. donald trump didn't run on that. he ran on i alone can fix it. he failed. >> let me go to john. first of all. how come they voted 60 times to repeal obamacare and couldn't do it today. why didn't they repeal it. they were afraid to repeal it. >> it was easy when it wasn't going to go anywhere. >> they didn't say that. they took credit voting 60 times. why continue they do it today. >> they didn't have the votes. >> it's okay for the republicans. >> it's okay. sometimes you win by losing. the fact of the matter is. >> you have learned the trump lingo. you have learned it. if the republicans would have won today, would you have said they won. >> they win either way. you got red, you got blue. >> the fact is i see the silver lining. the silver lining is this. the bill that was going to pass the house. the senate was never going to be able to pick it and you happen pa pass

ryan: i do.

speaker ryan said yesterday the increment whether the d.c. experienced earlier this week could delay the timeline. it remains to be seen if it will come up in the rules committee next week. a lot of the time i will depend on what agreement the republicans can come to that would revise portions of the bill. as of right now, you have a lot of conservatives think they cannot support the bill in the current form. you also have a lot of water thing if the changes that the conservative wing are seeking, they -- are seeking are made, they can no longer support the bill. it puts the bill between a rock and a hard place to get to place for both moderate and conservative can support it. >> assuming it is a party line vote, how many republicans can the speaker afford to lose before he is afraid of losing the bill? >> he needs to 18 to pass it, which gives them leeway. they did account last night and the house freedom caucus chairman mark meadows said anywhere between 40 and 50 members would be no on the bill right now. that would beugh to sink it on the

ryan.y hard. i will tell you that. he worked very, very hard. we had no democrat support. we had no votes from the democrats. they weren't going to give us a single vote, so it's a very difficult thing to do. >> trevor: unbelievable. i love this guy. he's legitimately mad that the democrats wouldn't vote to repeal obamacare's health care bill. "and what's worse, democrats wouldn't vote for my bill to legally change chuck schumer's maim to butt sniffer the cuck. whatever happened to bipartisan ship, folks, it's dead, it's gone ." ( laughter ) i was surprised president trump didn't blame paul ryan at all. saturday morning came around and donald trump tweeted watch judge jeanine on newspaper tonight's at 9:00 p.m. i was like, okay, i don't know judge jeanine, but if the president is telling me to watch her show, i've got to watch. i'm on a green card. i'm not trying to break the law. ( laughter ) so -- i watched. and she opened her show like this -- >> my opening statement -- paul ryan needs t