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joining me now is ambassador ryan crocker, veteran career diplomat who has served in lebanon, iraq, syria and pakistan as well as former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan during the obama administration. ambassador crocker, you have been critical of the way the president has handled this evacuation, and are you also critical, i believe, of the withdrawal itself. tell me what you think the impact has been? it's really two separate question, andrea, strategically and from a long, short and medium-term interest is the decision to completely withdraw from afghanistan it was a very bad one. that said, the decision having been made, the execution of it has been pretty bad, too, as we've seen. chaos at the airport, desperate afghans clinging to the fuselage of the c17 and dropping to their death as it takes off. this has been a real mess, and a huge self-inflicted wound to -- on the administration. the administration is pointing to a large flow or increased flow of people being evacuated and saying that they've smoothed out those early glitches. obviously human tragedy is involved, but do you think

ambassador to afghanistan, ryan crocker. plus the crisis here at home as tropical storm henri threatens the northeast coastline, and the potential forb flooding is cause for great concern. and with more schools open this week and with cases and hospitalizations and the number of deaths continuing to surge, the delta variant will undoubtedly get worse. we will talk to republican larry hogan and dr. dr. scott gottlieb. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> garrett: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we begin with the storm threatening the east coast. henri has been downgraded to tropical storm status, but that doesn't necessarily mean the threat is any less severe. jeff berardelli is on long island, and, jeff, what are you seeing? >> yeah, major, this is the worst it has been. we've been seeing gusts 55, 60 mile-an-hour. things are getting worse. but the core of the storm has missed us to the northeast. take a look behind me. pounding surf. we've seen swells 10 to 15 feet, and now we have this sideways r

i'm joined by the former ambassador under president obama, ryan crocker.en very critical of this withdrawal process. what was your take of -- on what the president had to say just a few minutes ago? does it sound like they are trying to or starting to get on top of the situation there, do you think? >> in terms of the specific challenge at hand, jim, the evacuation of our citizens and others for whom we have responsibility, i think they are starting to get a handle on it. i would emphasize that that handle and the people getting it are not in washington. they are at kabul airport. the foreign service officers and the marines and soldiers out there are the ones doing this. and what we see is that they are -- they're dealing with the situation that they got pushed into after the fact and they are making adjustments as they go. these are competent professionals, foreign service is pretty familiar with evacuations. as are the marines. so i think they are adapting to circumstances and turning an utter disaster into a, touch wood, a workable proposition. but the

ryan crocker, great to see you and thank you for coming on today.nd actually the whole world needs your expertise there. and this is a tricky one. in any case, then they began, you made a few public statements about this year, very concerned about president and biden in the state department and their ability to lead and i understand that everybody is coming down against this thing, very poorly constructed operation. but one thing, it bothered me a lot, this vivian article in the wall street journal on the scoop that against 20 or so diplomats from american diplomats in kabal and blinken essentially said predicted that if we left right away is fine, the taliban with over the country and it will you make of that. why was that morning he did do you think. ryan: that came through a special channel, just for such issues, major policy disagreements call the distant generally of use it myself. and so that was what this was, the dissent against the prevailing policy. and it requires it to be read by the secretary of state himself. and he acknowledged that h

we're going to speak with ryan crocker in just a moment. he has deeper experience in this region than anybody. former new york congressman, peter king. first, let's get you the latest on what is happening now, the latest breaking news from the state department. rich edson joins us from there as we wait for that briefing. good afternoon, rich. >> good afternoon, martha. the state department is beginning to notify thousands of americans to begin going to the airport. there's a problem. getting to the airport. one contact sent us videos yesterday showing taliban fighters arresting and kicking a man in the face. he says taliban are beating others on the way to the airport. americans in afghan say if they can navigate the traffic and taliban check points, they're meeting massive crowds there. the white house says they're addressing this with the taliban and taliban leaders have said they're prepared to provide safe passage to the airport. >> there's been instances where we have received reports of people being turned away or pushed back or even

ambassador ryan crocker joins us. thanks. good to have you back here. i want to get your reaction to a few different things today. this is an exchange that happened moments ago between our reporter at the white house, peter doocy and the press secretary, jen psaki. let's watch. >> most of the criticism is not leaving afghanistan. it's the way he ordered to happen, by pulling the troops before getting the americans that have been stranded. >> first of all, we're not stranded. >> martha: are americans stranded, ambassador? >> i'd be interested in hearing how we're going to get those americans to safety, particularly those outside of kabul. they can't make the trip by road. it's way too dangerous. the taliban are in control of it. so what are we going to do? send in helicopters into unsecured landing zones with no eyes on the ground but a lot of taliban with guns? we've had a lot of broad assurances here. the deadly little questions of how actually to do it are the ones that count. those are the questions that they're not answering. >> martha: i just spoke

ryan crocker, obama's former ambassador is saying it is, quote, it is insane, it is quote idiotic to the taliban is listening to threats from the president or nancy pelosi about you know, don't do bad things or we'll come after you. the taliban is doing what it wants right now. what do you say? >> look, the bay of pigs was a failure. the cuban missile crisis was a intelligence failure. 9/11 was a intelligence failure. this is not. this is a president that made a bad decision. this is real red flag. this is not a jimmy carter presidency, a bunch of rookie mistakes the first year. all of biden's team are veterans of eight years of obama. these are well-seasoned guys who have been through benghazi, iraq, isis, libya, the red line. they have had crisis after crisis. they failed on all of them, they're back and they failed again. that should scare people. elizabeth: we hear you. you know congressman, nancy pelosi is saying, talking about the wisdom of what the president decided to do. we've got the taliban leader claiming he spent eight years in guantanamo. al ban is releasing prisoners f

ambassador to afghanistan, ryan crocker, and david milliban, former british cabinet minister, now ceoue committee. thank you both for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> happy to be here. >> ambassador crocker, let me bgin with you. as ambassador to afghanistan during the bush and obama administrations, you've been wary of a complete withdrawal for years. now that it's happened, what's your biggest concern from a national security standpoint, that the u.s. embassy is closed and the taliban is back in control? >> i have several deep concerns. the most significant, i think, is we have helped recreate the alliance from hell between the taliban and al qaeda that produced 9/11. they're back now. taliban is back, al qaeda will be back with them. and our ability to detect or affect what they do is now limited. >> we went to afghanistan to defeat al qaeda. are you concerned that this regrouping will repower and resurface the force there? >> clearly it's a huge victory for the taliban and al qaeda behind them. narrative now from the taliban is, the righteous clad in the armor of the true fa

or this recorded interview with ryan crocker, former ambassador to afghanistan, talking about the afghanice. >> they'reless as a security force. and they're useless as a security force because they are corrupt down to the control level. >> this endemic corruption is also one of the key reasons of the success of the taliban. when we poured money like manna from heaven in afghanistan, what would you expect? they grabbed it. we contributed to the corruption by just pouring too much money. >> reporter: $145 billion went into rebuilding afghanistan, producing, according to president biden, an afghan army and police that should have been capable of holding its own against the taliban. >> we trained and equipped an afghan military force of some 300,000 strong. incredibly well equipped. >> was that a real 300,000? >> that's what the afghans reported. but we knew that there were serious problems with what we called ghosts. that means people on the rolls but who don't exist, but whose salary and everything else is just stolen by the afghan off jers aofficers and generals. >> reporter: it was more

here is ryan crocker with the ambassador when biden was vice president. >> it is disingenuous to sayto embrace the process he owns a lock stock and barrel, guaranteeing that. steve: in another interview unless there are grave questions in my mind about biden's ability to lead our nation as commander in chief to have read this so wrong or even worse to have understood what it was likely to happen and not care. his attempts to avoid accountability are shameful but even worse, the disgusting spectacle of the authors of two decades of death and destruction to extract a sick vindication seeing that we are right all along with more troops over there and then to assist the neocon lunatics the media tries to blame trump one president and one administration that deserves to be held accountable. it is george w. bush who scorned that the world's goodwill for the legitimate intervention in pursuit of al qaeda and instead lying to iraq but that media was anything to push because they hate trump and the brazen neocon keeps going like bloodthirsty zombies the dark queen of them all is cheney who sa

i thought it was notable that the former afghanistan ambassador under president obama ryan crocker toldn coop wh er what he believes broke the will to fight is that the trump administration negotiated with the taliban, cut the afghan government out, and that was a key moment in what has become a complete deterioration. listen to what he said. >> i was a key taliban demand. we acceded to it and it was a huge demoralizing factor for the afghan government and its security forces. >> do you agree having helped build them up to what they were believed to have been? >> yeah, absolutely, ryan crock ser correct there. this is -- i started in 2002 with the first couple of battalions, the nasf was on the way and still a young army at 19 years old. give me a break. a 19-year-old kid. one thing that we wouldn't do and crocker wouldn't do is stop the pakistan isi from running a terrorist pipeline out of their country and in afghanistan. when we made a deal with the taliban to get ourselves out, the afghans, all afghans, government and military and civilians knew they had been completely betrayed ove

. >> now, the former ambassador to afghanistan, veteran diplomat who you know well, ryan crocker, saidin on president biden's presidency. acknowledging that president biden inherited this withdraw decision from president trump, but did they underestimate the speed of the taliban advance and did they accelerate the withdraw this summer? >> well, i think there's no question that president biden has taken the right position for the united states as a world leader and said that the united states is back as a world leader, and when it comes to afghanistan, the president also stated that as we were withdrawing our forces that we would not allow afghanistan to again become a safe haven for terrorists. i think the president has got to show that we are not going to allow the taliban to totally take over afghanistan without putting up a fight. and that will be a test for this administration. >> can we still put up a fight, given how many troops we've withdrawn and our air assets? >> well, you've raised the question of the moment, which is whether or not it's too late. >> exactly. >> but i don't

. >>> joining us now, ryan crocker. former u.s. ambassador. cracker, thank you so much for joining us. chaos ensuing was unavoidable. it doesn't square with past statements that he made about a safe and orderly withdrawal but i'm wondering what you made of what the president said? >> the president's comments, anderson, not just this evening but going back several days are deeply disappointing to say the least. he seems to be blaming everything that's happened on everybody but him starting with afghan national security forces, belittling the fight they have for months and years, the 70,000 dead for their country. they deserve a little bit better than they're getting. the irony here of course is listening to clarissa's reporting, that this may be the good moment. who are the afghans trying to get to the airport? they are special immigrant visas. they need to flee because they fear taliban retaliation. and, again, it's a horrific irony that they -- the only way to get to the airport is to pass through a taliban checkpoint or checkpoints. what are

i talked with ambassador ryan crocker.ared because i think american people need to hear it. an embassy in kabul at headquarters, there used to be a weekly memorial service for the people who had passed away in service in this war and a representative from every allied nation would get up and read the names of the people for whom their country had died. the representative and government of afghanistan went last. they got up and didn't read names. they read a number. 162. 204. because it was just too many to be able to read. they would have been there for a very long time. our afghan brothers and sisters fought their you know whats off in defense of their country. they did their best and now there's nothing left for them other than us. we are their only hope. which is why this digital dunkirk movement, which has now gone global. i've talked to those who have served in the canadian military, the french military. if you have been to afghanistan in the past 20 years, you're probably a part of this movement. we're desperately tr

and and i want to lead with a quote from my favorite ambassador, that is ryan crocker, who we had on, in an interview on fox news just about an hour ago, ambassador crocker simply said right now there are no good options. now,

ryan crocker has served as ambassador to iraq, afghanistan, and syria. first of all, your reaction to the u.s. sending in these 3,000 troops to help the evacuations in the embassy potentially being relocated. you had reopened the embassy in kabul. this has got to be difficult to imagine. >> given the circumstances, i think the administration is doing the right thing. not to, not to delay this. to move in a force sufficient to hold the airport at the embassy and possibly some roots. that's, that is what we are reduced to now. and it is very sad to hear that the, that our envoys to the taliban are now pleading with them not to shoot at us as we retreat. when you think how this started, a peace agreement we somehow brokered welcomed a reality. the reality is this. the evacuation, and it is an evacuation, of a number of u.s. personnel, but also a number of afghans. i honestly don't know how they're going to do that with embassy afghan staff and especially with interpreters and others who risk our lives to help us. how are we going to get them out? >> you're

afghanistan catastrophe is here and i want to lead with a quote from my favorite ambassador, that is ryan crockerabout afghanistan and that entire region than anybody alive or dead. now in an interview on fox news just about an hour ago ambassador crocker simply said right now there are no good options. no

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ryan crocker says he's hearing from around the world, from other posts, where we rely on thousands and thousands of these local hires to run our embassies. this is being noted that they were not told and they don't live in the embassy compound so they were out in kabul fighting to get to the barriers, those gates, and not getting through in many cases. >> andrea mitchell, as always, on top of this and we know you'll be at the state department briefing. done a lot of tap dancing this week. we move own to ian bremer. i want to put up something boar boris johnson said. there is some carrots here to negotiate with the taliban. if those huge funds are going to be unfrozen eventually for use by the government and people of afghanistan, then what we're saying is afghanistan can't lurch back. girls will be educated after the age of 18 and so on. is that a fig leaf to the taliban? is that a premise that it's inevitable that we're going to have to figure out how to live with the taliban and negotiate with them? is this something that we have to do right now in order to guarantee the safety of ge

so that certainly -- you know, the other criticism which we've had on the show from ryan crocker has essentially the process was undercut by the previous administration dealing directly with the taliban which undercut the afghan government and the biden administration continued that policy, essentially. >> i think that's a fair criticism, but i also think it's worth remembering we were never going to get out everyone who deserved to get out before the government fell. i mean there's sort of a catch-22 here, right? the united states and the afghan government obviously wanted the afghan government to survive. there is no way for it to survive if we are simultaneously airlifting out the thousands of people who are running that government. and so so long as the u.s. and afghanistan wanted to take a shot at an afghanistan that wasn't run by the taliban, there was no way to accomplish a most of the airlift in advance. >> i'm so struck just how we, the united states and, you know, countries like to believe that they know what the effects of their involvement in another place is going to be.

president obama's former ambassador to afghanistan, ryan crocker, called the way this was done, quotehandover to the taliban and, quote, we have hung them out to dry about the afghan people. crocker continued, quote, i'm left with some grave questions in my mind about biden's ability to lead our nation as commander-in-chief. to have read this so wrong or even worse to have understood what was likely to happen and not care, unquote. does president biden not bear the blame for this disasterous exit from afghanistan? >> jake, we've seen two things. first, we've known all along and said all along, including the president, that the taliban was at its greatest position of strength at any time since 2001 when it was last in charge of the country. that is the taliban that we inherited. and so we saw they were very much capable of going on the offensive and beginning to take back the country. but at the same time we had invested over four administrations billions of dollars along with the international community in the afghan security and defense forces. building a modern military. with the mo

ryan crocker, former u.s. ambassador to syria, iraq. appreciate you being on with us tonight. first of all, the reporting that we got today that the top american commander is in negotiations with the taliban to try to secure evacuations, i'm wondering, does that make sense to you? it seems like a practical thing. do you think it -- would afghans be included in those negotiations? obviously the priorities are american citizens. would it also be about afghans? >> i think the admiral is doing exactly what he should be doing to talk to the -- those on the ground who have guns. on a narrow agenda obviously. i would very much hope that the issue of our special immigrant visa folks who are desperate to get out could be covered in any understandings that are reached. we have to give priority to our own citizens. these are thousands of afghans with their families, 60,000, that we promised we would get them to safety but we're not delivering on it because we weren't ready for the taliban takeover that we're forced to deal with. he's doing the right thing. i'm sure he's got his diplomati

listen to what former ambassador to afghanistan ryan crocker said about how this is all unfolding. >>biden did was basically double down on a really bad policy decision by president trump in saying that, yes, indeed, we're going, and here's the date certain. again, this didn't happen with a snap of the fingers. the process that unfolded with our talks with the taliban, including, for example, pressing the afghan government to release 5,000 taliban prisoners, which the government didn't want to do, we forced their hand, and they were immediately on the battlefield. that's context now. >> i think the thing that a lot of people need to understand is what the alternative could have been here. >> right. as ambassador crocker said, this started with president trump's deal with the taliban in february 2020. president biden obviously wanted to carry that through and insisted on it. the things that could have gone differently is, number one, they could have chosen to insist on withdrawal in april. they ahead that announcement in april before the fighting season in afghanistan. it's a horrible

mbelizabeth: former ambassador ryan crocker he was obama's ambassador.nd insane to think that the taliban listens to rhetoric like this, what do you say. >> it is asinine and i tell you dealt with the taliban on the ground they could care less whether t they're invited into tony begins european cocktail club there about power and leverage and they respond to bonds on orders. and until that we have a position of strength the taliban is going to continue to useot negotiations as a smokescreen to get what they want they smell weakness and we see the results of it and by the way blinking, austin and the whole crew were in charge when we yanked ourselves out of obama out of iraq too soon in the rise of isis and the size of indiana and attacks around the world were about to see the horror movie play itself out once again at this time it's going to be far worse because we have no basis and no local ally in the arm to the teeth with warehouses full of armor, artillery and heavy weapons that we left behind. this is o a disaster. elizabeth: congressman michael wal

. >> richard, ryan crocker, the longtime ambassador to afghanistan under the obama administration, he said the taliban are perhaps even meaner and more deadlier as a -- whatever you want to call them, as a governing entity than they were 20 years ago. is that your observation as well? >> reporter: much so. a thousand percent. a thousand percent. they're much better fighters. they've been fighting against the best military in the world, the u.s. military, for 20 years. that's how guerilla groups, insurgencies get better. they are victorious. they can use this as a recruiting tool. they are now the champions of the jihadi movement because they pushed out the united states. they're going to be able to live on that for a long time and attract a lot of recruits. will this country once again be a center of terrorism, a center of al qaeda? already today thousands of al qaeda and taliban prisoners were freed from jail, today. >> richard engel in kabul watching the withdrawal and the evacuation, stay safe, my friend. thanks very much. >>> joining me now is secretary of state antony blinken. se

you have ryan crocker, he is no shy about criticizing president trump actually questioning whether presidentd should still be president in then senator rick scott brought it up again today. that is how out of line i believe this decision is being digested. >> do you think the white house understands that or do they loo at twitter in think were probably good here if we hold o for a few more days. >> at think they know it's more than a checkmark that will die out in a few days. if it weren't that serious in part of it is that because of coming from inside the house. you had a clear difference of opinion you are watching john kirby's face when he is talking about this and he's part of the longtime community that agreed with the advice that we can't just pull out like this. in the interviews, president biden and i should mention the prime minister of the uk said the same thing that the taliban will not take control ever again . that's not a problem, we can pull out and that won't be an issue. so you can see that there are some discrepancy going on in terms of especially those who have been over

the new york post has this take on the president, and then the headline, a piece from ryan crocker, the former ambassador there, why biden's lack of strategic patience led to disaster. the atlantic headline, this is not saigon. this is worse than saigon. congressman, final thoughts? >> this is just -- this is definitely worse than saigon. i will be honest with you, jon, this is all leading back to something i have been talking about for a long time, it is biden's cognitive ability. i honestly don't think that he's being read into what's going on. i think there's a shadow presidency right now. i think other people are pulling the strings, making the decisions. i think he legitimately looks like sometimes he actually doesn't know what's been going on or hasn't been told what's going on. i wouldn't be surprised if they are withholding information from him because they don't trust him either at this point. i'm sure they see him on a daily basis, what kind of cognitive issues he's having and probably don't trust him to have the information and make the decisions. somebody else is smaking the

let's talk about this now with ryan crocker who served as u.s.sador to afghanistan and skran janis shinwari, former afghan interpreter for the u.s. and co-founder of no one left behind. ambassador, we've seen the taliban taking control of two more key cities. is the taliban takeover now inevitable? >> a prolonged civil war is a more likely outcome than a swift taliban takeover of the entire country. they're being very smart about this. they're not launching major strikes into kabul. they're doing what they're doing in part to create a climate of fear and panic. they are succeeding wonderfully. >> creating a climate of fear and panic. janis shinwari, what does that mean for those left behind, particularly those interpreters, translators, others who helped america during this war? >> as we said, it's too late if we don't evacuate all the interpreters who were left behind. the taliban will kill everybody. they're torture them in front of their family and kill them. i just heard news that the taliban were going and knocking door by door and asking fo

. >>> joining us now, ryan crocker, the former-u.s. ambassador to afghanistan, not to mention pakistan, syria, and iraq. am ambassador crockerings thanks so much for joining us. you heard what the president said tonight to abc, that chaos ensuing was unavoidable. doesn't square with past statements that he made about a safe and orderly withdrawal. but i am wondering what you made of what the president said? >> the president's comments, anderson, not just this -- this evening but going back several days now are -- are deeply disappointing, to say the least. he seems to be blaming everything that's happened on everybody but him starting with the afghan national security forces. belittling the fight they have put up for -- for months and years now. the 70,000 dead for their country. deserve a little bit better than they are getting from the president. the irony here, of course, is listening to clarissa's reporting, that this may be the good moment. there may be worse to come because who are the afghans trying to get to the airport? well,

let's discuss this with ambassador ryan crocker, former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan.more wounded and dozens more innocent afghans killed and wounded. was this inevitable? one of the things that we've been hearing from the white house is they have been fearing of a terrorist attack like this. it's been a terrible day, jake, one of the very worst. it gets right at i think the point that a lot of us have made that when the taliban come back. some really bad guys are going to come back with them. certainly al qaeda. they kept that relationship through two decades in the wilderness and the islamic state as well so the issue is not that the taliban control the country right now. the issue is nobody really controls the country. they had a breeding ground for these kinds of actions and people to come back and take road. that's what brought us 9/11 and we've got the same dynamic. >> right now none of those groups at least according to u.s. intel think that those groups have the capability of attacking the united states at least as of right now. what do you say to the average a

let's talk to ryan crocker, former us ambassador to afghanistan.bassador, thank you so much for joining us. does the united states have a moral responsibility for the humanitarian crisis affecting afghanistan millions?- humanitarian crisis affecting afghanistan millions? well, there is -len afghanistan millions? well, there is [en of afghanistan millions? well, there is plenty of moral— afghanistan millions? well, there is plenty of moral responsibility - afghanistan millions? well, there is plenty of moral responsibility to - afghanistan millions? well, there is plenty of moral responsibility to go l plenty of moral responsibility to go around. the united states owns a large share of it. we are now trying to evacuate those who assisted and it's directly, mainly interpreters, but there are many thousands of millions of others who will not be evacuated that we supported. the women and girls of afghanistan, we urged them to go to school and go to university and join government, to found companies, tojoin the military. they stepped forward and we have

or this recorded interview with ryan crocker, former ambassador to afghanistan, talking about the afghanare useless as a security force, and they're useless as a security force because they are corrupt down to the 12th level. >> systemic corruption is also what is one of the key reasons of success of the taliban. when we poured money like manna from heaven in afghanistan, what would you expect? they grabbed it. we contributed to the corruption by pouring too much money. >> reporter: $145 billion went into rebuilding afghanistan, producing, according to president biden, an afghan army and police that should have been capable of holding its own against the taliban. >> biden: we trained and equipped an afghan military force of some 300,000 strong. incredibly well-equipped. >> reporter: was that a real 300,000? >> that's what the afghans reported, but we knew that there were serious problems with what we called ghosts. that means people on the roles who don't exist, but whose salary and everything else is just stolen by the afghan office in general. >> reporter: it was more than salaries; it

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there is a lot of debate over nation building and i think ryan crocker said it well in terms of the main for terrorists who wanted to kill us trying to keep the fight there rather than here at home. but along the way, these other things helped to build the support for that and helped people to live their lives in a way that i think we're seeing crumbling quickly. this is a humanitarian disaster. when i hear ned price and other spokes people say keep in mind the president is very passionate about human rights. passion is great. but i don't think -- i think it's cold comfort for the women in afghanistan right now to hear these individuals are passionate about human rights when they have turned their backs on them and allowed this to happen. >> dana: our u.n. ambassador said they've sent a strongly worded letter. >> isn't that nice. yeah. that and a few bucks. >> dana: we look forward to seeing you on the story. >> at 3:00 we have the live press conference from milley and austin. >> dana: i might come sit with you. thank you. >> bill: as the u.s. scrambles to evacuate afghanistan the risk a

here is ryan crocker who said this. he was the ambassador under president obama.am left with great questions in my mind, speaking about the president, to have read this all wrong. or even worse, what was likely to happen and not care." a very strong statement, marie. >> well, i think four american presidents have made mistakes. that is not a cop-out by any means. president biden needs to come out today and take responsibility, show a little bit of humility for what america is doing. and say here is what we are willing to do now, despite what we have seen happen. we should have been out of afghanistan ten years ago. we should not have kept changing the mission. we should not have kept sending american men and women into the battle when we knew the numbers that we were getting about the afghan forces were wildly, in many cases, inflated, so i think the american people were ready for this war to end. i think he made the right decision, but we have seen that administration after administration have struggled with this, have made mistakes, and hopefully now, we can tak

earlier in the week, former ambassador ryan crocker was on with anderson cooper and he made this pointrd before, and that is this. that during the trump administration, during the negotiations with the taliban, the administration acceded to the taliban command that the afghan government not be at the table. his contention is because of that, it demoralized not only the afghan government, but the afghan -- the afghan security forces. what do you make of that? >> i think that's correct, jonathan, and it echoes something i think others have commented on looking at the macro situation saying the afghan government and the afghan people, it's hard for them to have political will when they turn around and they see that the united states and the international community, but largely led by the united states, suddenly lacks political will. and that certainly was the case under the trump administration. we know that donald trump campaigned, you know, to remove the united states military from afghanistan. he actually would have done it kind of overnight, you know, precipitously without much planni

sunni, shiite and kurd and ambassador crocker, ryan crocker, he spent the last 20 years of his life inaid this. it's insane and idiotic to think we can tell the taliban if they don't play nice the international community with withhold recognition and support. i'm left with some grave questions in my mind about his ability to lead our nation as commander-in-chief, to have read this so wrong or even worse to have understood what was likely to happen and not care, end quote. >> yeah. robert gates said it best. joe biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy decision in the last 50 years. it is just a fact. the other thing that angers me is how they are out there blaming the victim. blaming the afghan army for a kol answering them. we gave them and gave them the best equipment and they decided not to fight. we transferred the combat mission to the afghan army in 2015. and since then there have been between 54,000 and 58,000 afghan soldiers killed in combat fighting the taliban. just this year 2600 afghan fighters killed in combat. they've been fighting and dying and sacrificing thei

the ambassador, former ambassador ryan crocker said to me on camera for "60 minutes" that the haqqaniis forever. khalil haqqani one of the most wanted terrorist on the u.s. terror list. these people have killed thousands of americans. they are the brothers of al-qaeda. they swore allegiance to usama bin laden. and by the way, when usama bin laden was killed, and ayman zawahiri became commander of the taliban who did he swear allegiance to of al-qaeda? he became leader of al-qaeda. and he swore allegiance to the taliban. these people share the same ideology. they are responsible for 9/11. so to all the families of those who died on 9/11, to those who are injured, to those who have grown up without a parent, you need to know that your government on the anniversary of 9/11, the 20th anniversary is putting in power in afghanistan the people responsible? why do i say putting in power? because the united states has been in negotiations with the haqqani network. and haqqani leading the talks that the u.s. government has been pushing on the afghan government. and haqqani has been in doha with