last night ryan lizza of the new yorker tweeted this news. scoop, trump is dining tonight with sean hannity, bill schein, and anthony scaramucci per two knowledgeable sources. anthony scaramucci then called ryan lizza to find out who his source was. he actually thought that a reporter would simply reveal to him his confidential source. scaramucci said, you're an american citizen. this is a major catastrophe for the american country, so i'm asking you as an american patriot to give me a sense of who leaked it. anthony scaramucci thinks that the news that he was having dinner with the president and sean hannity is, quote, a major catastrophe for the american country. and he thinks a reporter, upon hearing that, will tell him who told him about the dinner. when ryan lizza would not tell him the source, scaramucci said, okay. i'm going to fire every one of them, and then you haven't protected anybody. so the entire place will be fired over the next two weeks. they'll all be fired by me. anthony scaramucci firmly believed that he already knew the

ryan lizza, appreciate you coming back. i want to bring in josh green, abby phillip, jeffrey lord an r aan and errol lewis. ryan lizza didn't do anything wrong? >> no, he didn't. anthony scaramucci learned a lesson here. he's not officially on the job. he's a smart guy. he'll be fine here. one thing that i would want to say, all of the attention, this is typical of all of the stories that get focused, our cnn colleague went to youngstown the other night and we had gary tuchman there. she interviewed a lot of people. at the close of her piece when she was talking about the enthusiasm, a woman said, look, what i love about him is he's not the traditional politician. he doesn't do things this way. i don't like the people that are there. he does it in a whole different way. they don't like it. that's why i sent him there. so i think as we go through this kind of a story, we need to remember that the audience out there, there's a lot of these people who think, yeah -- >> i don't think the story is that he used salty language. it

here's what ryan lizza had to say. i want to read part of what scaramucci said to you. "reince is a blanking paranoid skets frschizophrenic. bill shine is coming in. let me leak the blanking thing the way i blank blocked scaramucci for six months"

according to ryan lizza's story, mr. scaramucci gave him a call and said why do you even know this? how do you know about this private dinner that's happening at the white house? he says they will all be fired by me. i fired one guy the other day, i have three to four people i will follow tomorrow. reince priebus, if you want to lick something, he will be asked to resign very shortly. he is a blinking paranoid schizophrenic. this is revelatory of what's going on in the white house. i think american citizens look at that and say "gee, is the business a priority or is that the animus that exists between these two coindividuals? ">> business is absolutely the priority. i think anthony is put something of this. at the white house we are focused on who has a job, that's what we're trying to put forward on the agenda. this is a big day today legislatively. we have the health care vote later tonight. border wall that came out of the house appropriations. we've got russia sanctions bill that just passed. we are focused on the agenda, moving forward, and sometimes people in the staff get pre

let's talk about what ryan lizza said on tv. >> children cover your ears. >> let's move on.alk about reince priebus and the impact this has on the inner workings of the west wing. the people who need to advance the president's agenda, where does it leave them right now? >> it leaves them, in many ways, whe where they have been. a faction of his own in the weakened reince priebus, missing sean spicer and other folks as well that he brought into the white house. i don't think we know, right, what's going to go on here. this has just been a staple of this white house, all this feuding, almost like sibling rivalry, mean girls, nerds versus jock except they are going to, you know, the jocks are going to the high school newspaper to rat out the nerds. that is what's going on at this point. we have seen this. obviously, it happened with sessions as well. sessions is essentially staying on at this point. and brpriebus, this has been th story he's had the six months in the white house. every day seemed to be his last day or last week. if he survives the full-on blast from scaramucci,

ron brownstein, ryan lizza, phil mattingly.il, in a way that sets us up for where we should have been all along, which is republicans, you're in control, but you have to work with the democrats. we know there are issues in the individual markets. we also know now there's a higher level of popularity for the aca than we've seen since its inception, so fix what's there. is that a reality? >> it's a difficult dynamic. look, there are republicans who are game for this. there's a recognition that short-term stabilization, some funding mechanism for the marketplace right now, obviously the cost sharing reduction money for the insurers, that needs to be settled as well. laura alexander who chairs the senate health committee is ready to move forward on a bipartisan basis. the baseline for republicans that they campaigned on is repeal. if repeal is not what they're pursuing, conservatives made very clear they're not going to help fix something. they were never for a fix, they didn't campaign on fixes. basically you would have to get ind

why would that be, ryan lizza? isn't it the truth of the situation that there is actually bad blood here and anthony scaramucci isn't necessarily the aggressor here. it has been reince priebus when scaramucci is involved. there's a lot of reporting that he has been going after him, he didn't want him to have a job, he's not happy about this job. can you confirm that? >> absolutely. scaramucci has not been shy in telling people privately over the last month since he was offered the job of public liaison and then moved to sell his -- divest of all his assets, creating the conflict of interest and he wasn't brought into the white house for that job. he was left in limbo. >> ryan, so sorry to interrupt. we actually have anthony scaramucci on the phone. >> let's get him. white house communications director anthony scaramucci joins us this morning. anthony scaramucci, can you join us? >> yes. when i was speaking to you last night ryan, i said it was unpatriotic that you would president tell me who the leakers were. i was

. >> in one case that was very profane in the new yorker's interview with ryan lizza. if we had an unrevealing movement. where scaramucci said there are some in this administration that feel it's their job to protect americans from this president. >> that new day interview was by far the most insightful thing. yes, the story in the new yorker was shocking but the infighting is exceptional. this is the kind of thing that happens at bars after hours inside washington. to have him spill his guts on tv like that was incredible and it unworkable to anyone senior in the white house, to think anyone's going to trust each other. >> it makes sense, i suppose, as he trusted lizza. >> he's going after leakers, but he didn't tell the guy directly, he just told everyone else that the guy quit of his own accord. >> one of these explanations dt scaramucci and the lizza interview, oh, i thought we were off the record. if he thought he was off the record, that would make him a leaker, right? >> ryan lizza is a very experienced reporter, and it's clear from the postgame show went on, th

and he made a point of saying that to ryan lizza in the new yorker thing.t's means reince priebus does not control his own west wing. and it leaves him in a very, very disempowered figure. >> mika, what must it be like to be robert mueller? he doesn't live in a month he is sterry he sees the coverage know i'm sure keeps it at a minimum what must it be like to be him. >> i'm sure it's frustrating seeing this swirl around him. but he hags taken a lot of pressure before and stayed focused. i think he is trying to do his best to protect the lawyers underneath him from political threats that may be happening. you have to remember one of the conditions that the president seems to lay down on the attorney general for keeping his job is this investigation of leaks. and so you may see career attorneys at the justice department at the fbi coming under tremendous pressure in some kind of witch hunt to find leaks likely coming out of the white house. >> i always say about mueller a wounded combat veteran of vietnam war. u.s. marine he has been scared by the professiona

that reporter was ryan lizza who works for the new yorker. during the phone call - which lizza says was on the record -- scaramucci threatened to fire the entire communications staff... in order to stop leaks. scaramucci then took aim at priebus -- calling him a "bleeping" paranoid schizophrenic -- scaramucci also seems to blame him for leaks as well. what he said about trump's chief strategist steve bannon -- is so sexually explicit-- we cannot repeat it on air. neither priebus nor bannon have commented on the article. this morning all rides at the ohio state fair remain shut down after this fatal accident-- caught on camera. bystanders watched in horror as the "fire ball" ride broke apart in midair-- throwing several people to the ground. seven people were injured. 18-year-old tyler jarrell was killed. he had just enlisted in the marines and was preparing to report for basic training. john kasich visited the fair thursday-- and promised a complete investigation to make sure all the rides are safe. this morning-- a decision about the future

blaming ryan lizza for publishing his quote.ere is the reporter's. >> is not a matter of trust, it's a matter of we, reporters and journalists try to explain who these people are to the american people. when you do and on the record interview with someone, it is standard operating procedure that that interview then gets reported. >> dana: it's one of those things where you get on the phone with somebody and you just forget to say this is off the record or something or maybe you didn't think you had to, kimberly. i don't think it will happen again. >> kimberly: when you are director of communications, assume that everything is going to be recorded, et cetera. even if you stay off the record. when i used to be first lady or somebody at the d.a. office, i would say ten times off the record, just keep saying it. i didn't have any trust and because i had been burned by reporters. they want to get their name out there. you've got to be extra, extra careful. when you think you are dealing with someone you've dealt with before and they

this "new yorker" story i worked on and ryan lizza broke it yesterday. it was extraordinary what scaramucci the new communications director said about reince priebus 24 hours later, priebus is fired, scaramucci is still there. so it's got to be humiliating. this is the way the president runs his white house. it's a tough operation. the question is can he sustain this, this turnover of staff, can he treat people this way? if you treat people this way will it lead to better performance or poorer performance and it's again not a very good track record. >> there has been a lot of turnover thus far. and i want to play re with wolf's interview with reince. take a listen. >> are you the leaker in the white house? >> that's ridiculous. come on. >> why not respond? >> because i'm not going to. it doesn't honor the president. i'm going to honor the president every day. i'm going to honor his agenda and i'm going to honor our country and i'm not going to get into all of this personal stuff. >> so april, i want to bring you in on this because people are commenting o

that reporter was ryan lizza who works for the new yorker. during the phone call - which lizza says was on the record -- scaramucci threatened to fire the entire communications staff... in order to stop leaks. scaramucci also took aim at trump's chief of staff, reince priebus -- calling him a paranoid schizophren him for leaks as well. what he said about trump's chief strategist steve bannon -- is so sexually explicit-- we cannot repeat it on air. the backstory here -- despite publically saying he and priebus are like brothers -- priebus allegedly prevented him from joining the administration... up until now at least. developing now: expect more police at a popular trail in fairfax county this morning. this - after a woman was stabbed in the neck - by a stranger!! it happened around 7-30 yesterday morning.. not far from the vienna fairfax metro station. police - out with the disturbing details that this woman was just walking to work - and it looks like the attack was unprovoked. the woman is going to be okay. (live pic)) a live look at that

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you know, next hour we're going to have ryan lizza on with us to share his side of the story. he was part of this twitter back and forth all night with anthony scaramucci and really a player in this drama. so stay tuned for that. happening now on capitol hill, there is this senate hearing digging into russian meddling in the election. there is a key witness right now testifying, william browder, personally knows the russian lawyer who met with donald trump jr. in the controversial sit-down last summer. >> he's on capitol hill with more. this is part deux, part two of the hearing, what is significant about browder? >> he is an individual at one point one of the largest investors in russia and he has firsthand knowledge of alleged corruption with the russian government, about vladimir putin and instrumental in pushing the magnitsky act that became law here in the u.s. in 2012. and something that russia now wants to repeal. but in addition to all of that he has firsthand knowledge of some of the players who are in that trump tower meeting on june 2016 with donald trump jr., with

this is from ryan lizza. he says in case there are any ambiguity in this tweet, i can confirm that scaramucci wants the fbi to investigate reince for leaking. >> this would be an unprecedented senior staffer on senior staffer violence you don't typically see in a white house setting like this. i don't want to comment. i would say this anybody who goes to work for the white house has to fill out a tremendous amount of very personal information. youance arlot of personal questions and you should have some comfort and security in believing it's not going to be publicized or leaked. i will tell you this those sf 86 -- you answer a lot of personal questions. >> besides the fact the white house we both looked for and china has them, by the way. this would never have been okay in george w. bush's white house. this idea that the chief of staff could be leaking private financial information about a communications director. that elevates the palace intrigue to a level so unhealthy and it means these guys aren't looking

chief strategist steve bannon, in the white house, you saw the interview that scaramucci granted ryan lizzaer." >> two things struck me about that interview. number one, you don't air your fights out in public. you do what fdr did and let them take place behind the scenes. number two, the vug garrity lga. you don't speak in those kind of vulgar terms. you're supposed to be the great communicator, and you know, who wants to have a communicator where you don't even want your children watching what he has to say. >> listen to republican senator kennedy of louisiana react to this. he had some strong news. republican senator. >> you have all these aides that work for the president, and they want daddy to love them best so they fight over turf, and they try to hurt each other. it looks to me like in this white house it's out of control. >> out of control. that's a republican senator. >> it is out of control. and a lot of trump's businesses were out of control. you know, more often than not, his big businesses like the big condo towers in tampa and ft. lauderdale, soho in new york would also fail

cnn politics commentators, ryan lizza, ana thnavarro and mike shields. good evening to all of you. so, ryan, less than 24 hours ago we were discussing this. we were on -- >> a long time ago. >> anthony scaramucci's tweet about reince priebus. we were all astonished. that's not compared to what we learned from your article out today. this is out of control. >> yeah, i've never had the senior-most person for the white house call me up and conduct an interview like that. it was, you know -- and i apologize last night for not getting into the tdetails of th conversation on your show. i love you but i had to save it for my magazine today. >> so you're holding back on me. that's okay. >> a little bit. i had to do some additional reporting, i had to reach out so only to some of the people who were involved and do the due diligence, but, yeah, it was -- you know, at the end of the day, this is about president trump. a week ago what he did, he inserted h eed -- he basically a grenade into the west wing, an area that was already a war zone and added this new element, friction, that everyone k

when the journalist who is actually know who the leakers are, like ryan lizza, they know the leakers, they know, i respect them for not telling me because i understand and respect journalistic integrity, however, when i put out a tweet and i put reince's name if the tweet, they're all making the assumption that it's him because journalists know who the leakers are. so if reince wants to explain that he's not a leaker, let him do that. but let me tell you something about myself, i am a straight shooter. i'll go right to the heart of the matter. so i'm done talking. you can ask me questions. but be nice on the segment, chris, because this is a very serious matter of interest to all of america. >> anthony, look, i know when you say be nice, you're in part joking, so you know the job is to be fair. so let's be fair in this situation -- >> i'm saying, again, the ryan lizza unpatriotic it's that nuance. >> absolutely. ryan heard it. he accepts it -- >> the truth i'm used to all different types of questions. i'm used to meanness. it doesn't matter to me. i'm here to play it straight for the

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ryan lizza is the reporter. he published an interview and in it, the communications director profanely went after the chief strategists steve bannon and reince reince pre bias. he was upset over word getting out about a dinner he was having with president trump and some figures from fox news. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders defended her boss on fox news' "the story" tonight. >> i think sometimes we have a lot of passion. sometimes when you have the best people from around the country coming in with a variety of backgrounds, very different on evening. >> did not exactly apologize but before attacking the reporter he spoke with on the record, by the way, he said he would refrain from using colorful language in the new white house post. back to you. >> off to a rip roaring start there. leon, thank you. >> there is a whole lot more news coming out of the white house and capitol hill tonight. >> it's been one big headline after the other since this afternoon. let's start with health care. some mode

the least, after scaramucci dropped jaws with his vulgarity-laced interview with the new yorker's ryan lizzall it nc-17 rated insults against steve bannon. let's get more perspective on scaramucci and priebus from two people who know them, cnn special correspondent jamie gangel is with us and lynnette lopez who has covered scaramucci for the last five years. linnette, if i may, you call him the mooch straight to his face. >> everyone calls him the mooch straight to his face. anybody who's ever been in vegas with him at the s.a.l.t. conference when ch has been a fun party in the past, it was a little darker this year because of the uncertainty of mooch's position and my piece on "business insider" was everyone kept making the same sound. it was constantly nervous laughter every time the mooch would mention trump, the bankers and the investors in the room just kind of were like, ha ha, because the market is kind of weird right now. there's total uncertainty about policy and at that time, there was uncertainty about the part role that mooch was going to play. he still hasn't sold the firm. he w

just released, this vulgarity-laced interview scaramucci gave to correspondent ryan lizza.ce priebus a paranoid schizophrenic. the mooch, as he refers to himself, later tweeted this. i sometimes use colorful language. i will refrain in this arena but not give up the passionate fight for donald trump's agenda. sara murray is at the white house for us today. sara, any word on the flight and how these two manage that. >> oh, brooke, wouldn't you have loved to be on the plane with the two of them? this is not the large air force one. this is the smaller air force one, so you know, not that many places to escape from one another. we have not heard exactly how that flight went. they did not seem to want to comment, apparently, as they deplaned when they were arriving in new york. but look, i think it's so striking that you have had this public feud, you've had anthony scaramucci say these horrific things about the chief of staff and the chief strategist. what we have not heard is president trump come to the defense of his chief of staff. now, of course, a lot of tongues have been

the remarks he made to ryan lizza at the "new yorker," you know, he's head of the white house communications operation and he doesn't know that if you talk to a reporter and he wants it to be off the record, you say this is off the record, right? and then you can say the things he said, if you don't care if that reporter respects you or not after going further. but that's crazy. this is the head of white house communications operations didn't know that you -- and then he said that stuff. >> but there was so many who tried to either defend him or at least put that into context. i remember sarah huckabee sanders saying in a news conference after that profanity-laced tirade, she said, well, you know, this is a guy who's got strong opinions and he's outspoken and that sort of thing. so what do you think of people who try to put him into context that way? >> you can express strong opinions in different ways. those, i think, are inappropriate for the head of communications from the white house, and i think everybody knows it. >> okay. let's talk about jeff sessions here. what happens if the presid

ryan lizza with the new yorker writes, "unlike other trump advisers, i have never heard him, scaramucci, say a bad word about the president." so he's saying everyone else is criticizing the president who hired them. >> i don't want the get into... i don't know these conversations. all i can tell you is one of the issues as the west wing was pulled together and the staff was pulled together is it was an interesting concoction of people that weren't really with the president's campaign, so he did pull together people. maybe in the hopes of kind of bringing unity to the party, but it has always been fearful that you had people who were either never trump or didn't have much respect for president trump who got senior administration positions. and i worked for a republican president who i admired and who i loved and i would have just done almost anything for professionally, and when you don't have that spirit with some staffers, it can cause a lot of problems. >> woodruff: karine, i know i'm asking you as an outsider and someone from the other party to weigh in on, this but do you see a solu

joining us by phone is ryan l lizza in new york and dana bash. ryan, this is a public knife thing, if you will, of the chief of staff by the new coms director with the blessing of the president because he got off the phone with the president, the president gave him permission to call in and talk to "new day." you were in the middle with a senior white house official telling you scaramucci was going to the fbi and the doj about this. >> yeah. this was a strange sequence of events last night. um, you know, earlier in the day yesterday, i reported that scaramucci would be having a dinner with sean hannidy of fox news and the president. i get a call that scaramucci disclosed this, so i'll explain it. in the "new day" interview, he noted he and i talked last night. he was upset. he was very upset about the fact that his dinner with the president and sean hannidy and others leaked out. he called me, frankly to try to see who leaked the information to me. he is obsessed with leaks. there is, what he thinks, a leak war going on between his camp at the whi

white house communications director anthony scaramucci who told the new yorker magazine, our own ryan lizza, that reince is a paranoid schizophrenic and he used some other profane words? >> that interview really left me speechless. there is very little that leaves me speechless, but i think that for one member of a team to talk about another in that way -- put aside the profanity -- demonstrates a dysfunction that general kelly is going to have to address head on. he's going to have to establish that he is the leader of this team. he is the chief of staff, and that the kind of discipline that he's going to bring is important because here's the key point. the american people want to know the government is working for them. they are tired, i think, of the tabloid-like feuds and the lack of policy discipline and leadership to get things done. the american people want to get things done. again, coming back to health care or infrastructure, i hope that we're at a turning point now with these profiles and courage. john mccain who spoke so eloquently about the need to work together across the aisl

opinion and if you were on tv, it would be like, and if you were on tv, it would be like, joining us ryan lizza from the new yorker, so and so from the washington post, and ultra-conservative matt lewis. - right, exactly. - so we were labeled and it used to be that you could go from like the new republic to the new york times but you could never go from national review to the washington post, and robert costa i think is maybe the most famous example now. so there's good things happening. i also think some of what's happening at fox is frankly good. - explain. - well it seems chaotic, but getting, i think bill o'reilly was not a force for good for conservatism. was not a force for good for conservatism. and i think some of these people actually hurt the conservative, there's the old eric hoffer line, it starts off as a movement, turns into a business and ends up as a racket, a lot of that was in conservative journalism so getting rid of some of these people at fox, getting some new blood in, some different perspectives, i think is healthy. i think is healthy. there's also potentially a negative

week on his job, we got an incredible taste of unfiltered mooch today, when "new yorker" reporter ryan lizza details of a conversation he had with scaramucci last night. i'm going to read you some of the quotes, but be warned, if you are put off by foul language, the mooch thinks you should mooch yourself in the head. i want to give a quick warning to the cbs censors: you guys are going to have to break out the emergency extra bleeps for this one. but it's not my fault. i'm just communicating to you the actual words of the communications director of the white house. the one in washington! here's how it started: lizza reported yesterday about trump's dinner with scaramucci, sean hannity and some other guys. the mooch called up lizza to try to get the name of who leaked about the dinner, but lizza protected his source. so the mooch said, "okay, i'm going to fire every one of them, and then you haven't protected anybody, so the entire place will be fired over the next two weeks." mooch, you do realize that if -- he's still not going to give you the names. and if you do fire everybody, you have

chain of command or this interview scaramucci gave to ryan lizza, which one of these things. >> it is the chain of command. one of the things to understand, when the announcement was made to have general kelly as chief of staff, you have to understand what that title means. it means that's the person that everyone on the staff goes through in order to get to the commander. it was evident donald trump, in giving this position to general kelly, general kelly has said these are the terms. president trump brought into it. anyone will tell you when you take over, there's going to be one person that tries to bite it and says i'm going to go around it. one thing i believe his anthony scaramucci believed he had a better relationship with president trump and i will continue to go go to u.n. genel kelly kelly says everyone goes through me. that's how things are going to be. >> eric: i get that but i have to wonder why wouldn't scaramucci say got you, mr. president. i didn't love reince priebus in this spot but i respect general kelly, so i will go through general kelly. with that have salvaged

according to ryan lizza from "new yorker" anthony scaramucci called reince priebus a paranoid schizophrenic. he said he is to blame for leaks to the press. last night on cnn he said scaramucci had harder words for steve bannon. >> you have to be careful with some of these. they're pretty salty. i'm not steve bannon. i'm not trying to blank my own expletive. i'm not trying to build my own brand off the blank strength of the president. i'm here to serve the country. so, he was really ripping into him saying he's someone that is more out for himself. >> scaramucci said on twitter he made a mistake trusting a reporter. he had the right to publish the quotes because the interview was on the record. >>> wells fargo customers, listen up. you may have money coming your way. the bank giant says it plans to reimburse about $80 million to car loan customers. according to reuters, this involves more than 500,000 people who were wrongly charged for car insurance they didn't need. wells fargo is still working to repair its brand after a fake account scandal where banking staff opened up two million unaut

ryan lizza clearly doesn't think he was. he said some things that are tough. let me back up.beyond this article which i think the white house can get over quickly. what it represents is there is a lot of turmoil inside. they've done a pretty good job keeping it under wraps. you've heard bits about if i'm not a ton. this basically shows you there's a ton of resentment. when there is resentment, especially among two high level staffers vying for the attention of the president, everybody else feels unstable. there is only one person who can fix that and that is president trump. this is something he will have to get his hands dirty, doesn't want to get involved in the confrontation but it's reached a boiling point and only he can put it out. >> bret: chris, what do you think? >> scaramucci told the president versus television that the president had to choose between him and reince priebus. i bet he wishes now he hadn't made that call because what a face plant in your first 24 hours. priebus to his credit has been silent. he is like a submarine at the bottom of the ocean, letting

ryan lizza is that reporter.said anthony made 100% clear that i understand the interview was not off the record. totally within your rights to publish it. the new yorker reports it has an audio recording of the profanity laced conversation but no plans to make it public. kevin corke at the white house. >> perhaps the new yorker is trying to protect itself in case the white house spin machine tries to portray that conversation in a light other than it took place. it's fair to say that anthony scaramucci won't likely fall out of favor with the president. he's said to enjoy a bit of tension but that's also part of the issue. you have senior staffers that haven't done this before. they don't understand the rules of engagement here in washington. here's someone that does, sarah huckabee sanders. >> sometimes he's a passionate guy and lets the passion get the better of him. he used colorful language that i don't anticipate he will do again. >> none of this is new for those of us that have been covering this administrat

but he also called ryan lizza of the new yorker furious that his dinner with trump had been leaked.said he had called the fbi and justice department which is an apparent violation of white house policy, and then engaged in a profanity laced diatribe. they'll all be fired by me. i fired one guy today. i have three or four i'll fire tomorrow. if you want to get something, reince priebus will be asked to resign shortly. also targeting the president's chief strategist, i'm not steve bannon. i'm not trying to suck my own [ bleep ], he said. i'm not trying to build my own brand of the bleeping president. there's still more. that's next. ...is not just something you can see or touch. home...is a feeling. it's the place where you feel safe to have those little moments that mean everything. at adt, we believe that feeling should always be there. whether it's at your house, or your business, we help keep you safe. so you can have those moments that make you feel at home. ♪you are loved wherever you are. i was playing golf love golf.... i used to love golf. wait, what, what happened? i was hav

i thought scaramucci's interviews with you guys yesterday morning and with ryan lizza last night were a real reflection of what is on trump's mind. and health care i'm pretty sure was a subject that didn't come up in those interviews. >> david, in terms of the white house chief of staff. i know you're not in the prog nostycation business, but does reince priebus survive the next week? >> that's a very good question. i think part of the lack of leadership coming from the white house has been ta there has been no chain of command in addressing all of these priorities. reince priebus is going to get a lot of blame for the failure of health care. as chris pointed out, he was brought in h because he wa z the washington guy that knew the players. it all starts at the top. and when the president brings in a so called communications director, and that communications director does not report up the chain of command to the chief of staff but reports directly to the president and starts going around the chief of staff threatening to fire everybody, outing the chief of staff as he sees it as bein

he repeatedly used the f word in a phone call with the new yorker's ryan lizza. other vulgar terminology we can't say on tv to refer to ban non. scaramucci later tweeted he uses colorful language. will remain passionate about pushing the president's agenda. the asked about this, sarah huckabee sanders said he's using colorful language. i don't anticipate he'll do it en go. but she has also talked about how the president, president trump encourages competition. she said healthy competition, which he believes can get results. but so far, this infighting is proving to be much more of a distraction. and when it comes to the disruption of washington, that the president and his team promised, this idea coming in with a better way of doing things, the only disruption we're seeing so far is here at the white house. it looks like it's standing in the way of getting his agenda through. >> getting anything through. thank you. >>> so as athena just said. at the director promising to fire everyone until the white house leaks are plugged. joining us now ned ryan. and alex and

how in the face of what scaramucci doldz ryan lizza could steve bannon continue to maintain face? >> my question is how the mooch going to survive, when he says i have the ability to kill everybody virtually in the west wing. when the general who has been raised on order, who's been raised on discipline and a change of command in the white house, he's going to call scaramucci in and going to say, you don't fire anybody without my permission in this white house. you're going to get control your communications shelf. you're not going to be first surrogate. you're not going to have wide open access to the oval office without me knowing what is going on there. i think he's the one that's going to get his wings clipped. as for bannon, the only thing i've seen from steve bannon over, he's kept his head down. advised sometimes the way the president went sometimes the way he didn't. if you're looking at casualties here i would take a good look at the mooch. >> mooch, as far as we're know, wasn't reprimanded for telling a reporter that bannon provides -- on himself? >> that's because the o

he has released that tweet we've brought you, he is responding to an article to reporter ryan lizza in he didn't know whether he was on the record, there were a lot of quotes about rides previous. the who leaked the details of a dinner of the white house and then it gets very vulgar in this article that we won't go into too much detail about about a number of different officials saying at one point he's going to fire them all. white house senior official responded to fox news producers just said this. with federalist bring on our panel, mercedes schlapp with "the washington times" ." in syndicated in syndicated colt charles krauthammer. we've all covered washington, we've often said this there's not been anything like this. >> we've had rivals for power but we've never seen anything that this so public a muscle vulgar, threatening violence against leakers, threatening to fire them. it's extraordinary. do you think this hurts anthony scaramucci with president trump or does it help him? he's pushing back so strongly but clearly this is just one more example of something happening in the

pushing back after anthony scaramucci went after him in that incredible expletive laden tirade to ryan lizza in the new yorker. in terms of the president himself, it was really crazy to hear kellyanne conway say that she'd be open to a pecking order, knowing there are competing factions within the white house. we know that the president respects secretary kelly, but is he going to listen to him when it comes to matters other than military topics? >> that's the thing, he doesn't really have a political background, and that's where it remains to be seen how the people in the west wing are going to stick to his orders and whether he's going to know enough to actually, you know, implement what needs to be done. chief of staff is a lot different role than he's used to. but as jeremy said, i think the one thing he does command is a lot of respect, so especially with all the leaking happening, i'll be curious to see how he implements that and how he deals with that specifically. >> yeah, and, of course, one of the reasons reince priebus is out is that the health care bill went down in an epic fail.

this ranch to ryan lizza that was on the record. he became the story. when he took that job as chief communications director, he reports to the president. we do not know if he will go through kelly. is that problematic? >> it will be problematic. kelly understands the importance of hierarchies, authority and function chains of command. that was an issue when the travel ban game down when there were reports kelly denied white house officials who they didn't see as being in the chain of command. that's a big question going into the week. it's not so much as what does kelly do to scar mu whichamucci. for kelly, the move from running dhs to white house chief of staff is a bit of a demotion. he was well suited to run dhs given his close relationships with political officials, he had a huge budget, a huge department that he was the number one person in charge of. for him to go from that to being the number two person in the white house that has become a soap opera is not necessarily a promotion. it's an adjustment. >> something tells me he does not want to st

interview like he did, apparently with his blessing he gave the insults about reince priebus to ryan lizzaen you have someone at the top allowing his -- his staff members to act like contestants on "the apprentice" then one of them is going to get axed after week. we saw sean spicer beginning the week out the door ending with reince priebus out the door. i don't see how general kelly will be able to restore order when you can't make order. it's herding cats with a giant lion at the top who cannot be tamed. >> we'll pause the discussion on a friday night and come back with our panel right after this. at blue apron, we're building a better food system. where instead of paying for middlemen, we work directly with family farms to deliver higher quality ingredients for less than you pay at the store. get $30 off at blueapron.com/cook when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites. he's happy.t's with him? your family's finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet mea

ryan lizza spoke with don lemon about scaramucci's tweet. >> i did talk to a senior white house official today before that tweet was posted. and this is what anthony scaramucci believes, that i'm told that he wants the fbi to look into reince priebus, whether there is anything illegal that reince priebus did with respect to leaks of financial disclosure information. so i'm sort of flabbergasted at this whole thing, don. i've never seen a white house where someone even privately calls the fbi on someone. but then to actually tweet about it is sort of astonishing. and remember, last week he's -- anthony scaramucci was talking about how he and reince were going to get along just well. a lot of reporters who are known about this relationship were laughing about that because they had just been so at odds for the last six months. >> scaramucci countered wrong tweet was public notice to leakers that all senior administration officials are hoping to end illegal leaks. that's tracks what scaramucci said in an earlier interview about white house leaks. >> it will be virtually impossible to get rid

i said i want to read you one quote ryan lizza in a new new yorker" about michael hayden. mike hayden the former head of the national security agency told me that he was convinced the meeting -- this is at trump tower was a classic soft approach by russian intelligence. while kushner claimed the meeting was irrelevant from a russian intelligence perspective it would have been seen as a clear signal. at the end they have established that these guys are willing, hayden said, pausing, how do i put this -- they did not reject a relationship. so congressman, you can see how maybe through ignorance or innocence or knavety mr. pr kushner could have got caught up in something bigger than him. >> mr. hayden said in that scenario is true. and mr. kushner said he regrets the meeting took place and took place under the auspices he thought it was. but the reality is again if something had come from this meeting or materials had been passed or subsequent meetings requested and if they followed up in any way we'd be talking about something very, very different. but the reality is they di

on thursday, this whole west wing war went public with our friend ryan lizza writing about things that humans can't do. on friday health care went down in the senate and his chief of staff got fired. any one of these -- >> monopoly paces. >> or may clue, when someone is about to get whacked because reince priebus did. david drucker, any one of those days, a year's worth of problems in an administration and they happened every day last week. there's a short-term problem for john kelly as chief of staff. he's got to stop any of those things happening. >> like a yellow brick road to hell you just described for this administration. i think bother roll and john make good points about kelly. two kinds of people the president respects, people who have made a lot of money, a lot of money, and generals. kelly comes in with an opportunity of commanding the president's respect are where reince priebus don't. the problem is it isn't priebus' fault that he couldn't contain ament who wouldn't be contained. twitter, policy at any given time, look at the six sides of the obamacare issue that the presi