they wanted fundamental change in sacramento. 64% would be a massive majority in our largest state forhich only a year ago got -- less than a year ago got 39%. but notice the challenge to many republicans. the referendum failed in every county. that is a majority of the voters of san francisco voted no. now, one of the challenges the republican party is are we prepared to be inclusive and not exclusive? let me be clear. [applause] >> and i say this having been active in thinking about this party and thinking about governing this country for 51 years. i am happy that dick cheney is republican. i am also happy that colin powell is a republican. [applause] >> a majority republican party will have lots of debates within the party. that is the nature of majorities. remember, reagan carried 49 states in 1984, and a lot of them were not hard-core conservatives. reagan won in 1980 by appealing to independent and unhappy democrats. there's not a single reagan speech where he doesn't say, "my fellow republicans and those independents and democrats who are looking for a better future." there were

he was a member of the sacramento city council before being elected as senator.e're joined from hayward , calif. by charlie. caller: i am confused and i have seen a lot of information saying that it is not the best policy for california. it takes a couple of thousand gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol which seems to affect food and gasoline prices. why can we put a fee on the use of corn ethanol in california's gasoline so that the gas companies will have to get rid of that mandate? guest: it is certainly an idea to consider. the whole issue of ethanol is really a national energy issue. in calif. we're on the verge of passing the first in the country -- 33% renewable energy standard. to say that we can no longer rely on fossil fuels that hurt our climate, that we can no longer rely on foreign oil. you talk about what is important in foreign policy, certainly it is to promote renewable energy. i know that california even in the difficult times is on the verge of doing something very important for renewable energy, lessening the demand for imported oil. h

that would give the printing press to sacramento. that would be very dangerous.hat if local governments are compelled to freeze employment and start to be a better. we are in very tough times. host: we have someone on the democrat line. caller: what about the outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries? i am a victim of an outsource. i work for a company that had a facility in south carolina. it made components for electronics for the automotive industry. all kinds of industries. they shut the plant down and put 1000 people out of work. they shipped the equipment to china and to mexico looking for slave wages. i am unemployed and not on the tax roll. i do not have any purchasing power. this company gets tax breaks by moving those jobs abroad. can you comment on that? guest: done a cast -- dynacast has to survive. that is the company you were speaking of. the context is much the fund by the government in washington. it as neglected the fact that some of our trading partners trade for american labor very unfairly. china has an undervalued currency. it intervened in cu

. >> from sacramento, what if any sanctions should president to bomb a place on north korea in light of recent events waxed that is another difficult question. time was born outside of sacramento number three at and, -- kim jong-il what he would do with nuclear weapons but also transfer those two places like i ran the chinese are the absolute key to the north korea problem. they know it to everybody knows it they are afraid to put too much pressure because they don't when hundreds of thousands of refugees coming across the border but the bottom line is they have two cut off oil and get tough with the north korea is. this is one of those things that the chinese don't want the japanese to have a nuclear program but that may be one of those things that you have two say i am not sure we can hold the japanese back if you're not willing to do something about the curious because the japanese to not want three hands and this can work of the chinese participate in the right way. that is the tough diplomacy that needs to be had. >> final question for two nights this question comes from sioux c

. >> you went to sacramento. that's sort of the high point at four.ow comfortable were you with the kings in. >> very comfortable. we had a great workout there, six great point guards, tyreke evan, jonny flynn, guys like that. a great chance for me to show my skills and why they should pick me over those other guys and things like that. it was fun. i think i liked the situations they have there. you know, a chance to turn that team around. like i said, any team that i go to, i'll try the make nose of that opportunity. >> why do you think you're ready to contribute next season? >> just my basketball i.q. and the way i can shoot the ball. i think that will definitely help spread the offense out for an nba team. my point guard skills are developing as we speak. so with that and just being able to pick things up quickly and my nature, i think i can definitely be productive on the next level next year. >> chad ford's latest mock draft version 6.1, not a whole lot has changed from 1 to 3, but he's now got jonny flynn in the top ten going to milwaukee, knock

treatment in sewage facilities in sacramento and stockton. which caused it to leak into the san joaquin river system. it would cost $2 billion for the city of sacramento to fix the ammonia problem. we have over 1,600 pumps in the delta that divert water that are unscreened. we have pollution from the surrounding urban areas because they've quadrupdrupeled in area. this ad-- they've quadrupled in area. 23 this drought extends a fourth or fifth year, this will be a greater -- there will be a greater impact. that impacts not only california but the entire nation. we must work together to address the drought crisis in california in the short term and in the mid term. these fixes include factors that could lead to improving and moving water around. to get water supplies to those who need them to deal with pump schedules and conflicts that arise. to increase the water bank. to ensure that in the next six months or next year and beyond that we do everything possible on the state with the federal government's collaboration to ensure that we deal with

in sacramento, we live at the confluence of two great rivers -- the sacramento and the american. as global warming intensifies, scientists predict greater storm intensity that could forever change these river's flow patterns. this means my district will have to cope with more direct runoff and flooding. i want to thank chairman waxman and chairman markey for working with me to ensure that this bill addresses california's water needs and the context of climate change. allowances are distributed to states for urgen projects to help fight extreme weather and flooding. these resources will be vital as we work to adapt to changing climates and more intense weather patterns. in order to deal with these issues and others that confront us all, the energy and commerce committee has held countless hearings on energy and climate change policy over the past 2 1/2 years. this year alone, we have convened over a dozen hearings and heard from numerous experts as well as national and international leaders. in total, the committee has held over 40 days of hearings on energy and climate change pol

brandon league, the right- hander from sacramento, lives in honolulu. perfect fast billion, right in on the hands of alberto gonzalez, who's one for three. took a little bit off. same location, same look, different pitch. strike 2. he had him reaching. foul tip caught, two outs. he's got a lot of good stuff, turning it over right here, and it dives right out of the zone of gonzalez. 97 or 95, have an 82-mile an hour change-up, will make you look like that. harris first pitch swinging, skies it to left, and adam lind is there. they lead by 4, 6-2. po >>> i just want to wish all fathers out there and my dad happy father's day. >> we move to the ninth inning. mike macdougall told me that his dad and he are very close. >> he's been great. my dad is my best friend, so he's my buddy. i call him every day, and he's just a great guy and i love being around him. >> he was also a senator's batboy and should be here at national park here next month, bob. >> senator's batboy, nice. josh willingham, get used to seeing him play right field, out there wor

. >> rob: nick grew up in sacramento, probably didn't hear a lot of cow bells. i like how you find the cow though. >> bob: they have a contest with the fans to find the cow. >> rob: the chick-fil-a cow. >> bob: it's marketing and baseball. ryan zimmermann the dh 0-3 today today. he'll get around late and bounce it over by the bag foul. >> bob: red sox are putting it on the phillies again today 4- 1. >> rob: what's the yankees store? >> bob: let me get an update. 13-0 still, top of the 7th. 10-3 marlins at toronto on top. pirates beating beating the tigers 6-1. phillies tie the red sox. national leagues doing a great job today except for atlanta. they're trail acinging -- trailingng. dodgers and texas just under way. you're up to date on this sunday of baseball. nick johnson, high chopper right side. ben sow -- ben zobrist two outs. ray knight and johnny holliday coming up for nats extra. a lot of groundouts today. the nats offense very strong. alberto two of the hits. martis and sea bath i can't --- . >> bob: this is the second run issued by the rays today. it's

justice kennedy is a practicing lawyer in sacramento. justice ginsburg is an academic. justice alito is the most experienced on the bench before coming to the court. we have the same label but we are a pretty diverse bunch. we did not bring that experience. i do think it is important that you figure out exactly what it is you think is lacking on the court and not just look at the labels. in the past, we have had a lot of politicians appointed to the court. if they are willing to become judges and leave behind the politics, i think that could be a great source we were talking last night about those that were -- remaining politicians. >> chief justice, what are some of your favorite books and what do you like to read in your spare time? >> i do not like to read briefs in my spare time >> i like detective models -- a detective mall -- a detective novels. i hear there is a new biography of lincoln out that i think would make good reading. a couple of summers ago, i thought i needed to learn a little bit about my predecessors and to first learn who they are. of all the effor

"the sacramento bee" -- the country needs to reclaim its status as a global magnet for visitors even in the post/9/11 climate and congress can help by passing the travel promotion act by the end of this year. the "dallas morning news," september 6: "the travel promotion act is a sensible first step toward putting the welcome mat back on america's doorstep. the orlando sentinel "charging travelers $10 on promotion to bring in all that money makes sense." "detroit free press," september 5, 2008, "doesn't it make sense to encourage at no cost to taxpayers foreign visiters to come here and leave some money? there's no good reason not to pass this bill." and finally, i leave the best to last, the "duluth news tribune," duluth, minnesota, may 18, 2009: "ideas to bolster economic recovery without plunging the nation any deeper into debt would be welcome by taxpayers from coast to coast." that is what we're talking about here, and i know firsthand how important it is, tourism, for the city of duluth t. had some very difficult economic times in the 1970's and 1980's. at one point it was so ba

this is jo inglett, 30-year-old infielder from sacramento, played at the university of nevada reno. he is 4-for-22 in a part-time role, 1-for-6 as a pinch hitter but he is already in the game as a right fielder. right at the letters. mcdougal, 98. wow! he is getting loose these days. >> rob: he always had an amazing arm. that's pretty uncomfortable. 97 inside. >> rob: you and i look at that differently. i done find that as uncomfortable. i look that as setting up the next pitch. >> bob: that means you are the pitcher and i am the hitter. i'm out of here. i these guys are professional. >> bob: overpowerred him. three ground balls. let's see if the nats can get one with dunn.  . >> johnny:  hi, everybody, johnny holiday along with phil woods. phil, adam dunn did it last night in a 3-3 ballgame. can he do it again tonight? >> phil: it will be great if he does it. i hope he does it much quicker. we won't be here all evening. a tough one for ross detwiler not to get his first big league win. he obviously around another start. another amazing evening from willie harri

league is a resident of honolulu from nick johnson's neighborhood in sacramento. 26 years of age, 6'2", 205. off and on career for the blue jays over the last five years. up and down, up and down. only averaging about 20 games a year. he's been back and forth between toronto and triple-a so much. brand new pitcher, first-pitch swinging. >> rob: you remember he took three strikes -- three strikes his last time, so he wanted to make sure he got a good hack in. figured league would try to get ahead with a fastball. he did and just missed it. >> bob: willie harris has had a fantastic night. 1-3, a double, a walk and a spectacular running catch on vernon wells to end the top of the ninth. nats would go on to get a leadoff man aboard and would never get the man off first base. >> rob: 97 on the last pitch. >> bob: saw this kid on tv during our long rain delay yesterday throwing in philadelphia. he can really bring it. he pulls the string on an 85- mile-per-hour changeup. >> rob: willie harris saying what was that? asking the umpire. >> bob: then a nasty, dipping breaking ball. he saw all th

as we convene here today in california, in sacramento, arnold schwarzenegger is getting ready to pass a budget that will cut its essential government services in a way an american state hasn't seen in this century. cutting health, people will see what is life for the great progressive welfare state was light. he is literally fulfilling grover norquist ambition. what do the conservatives think about this? arnold schwarzenegger has the wrong ideas about what parts of our bodies are supposed to rub up against each other. he has the wrong ideas about what you are supposed to say about global warming. he doesn't follow the ritual of rush limbaugh. he is concerned -- considered a traitor to the conservative movement. it used to be that these people could meshed together. they used to be able to read this intricate tapestry and make it seem seamless and whole. now, the holes are out -- abound. what do they have to do? one of the things i have learned in the past year from watching barack obama is the importance of leadership. i don't think i really understood this. the republican party will

. >> jim: called back to the big club on may the 30th, playing triple-a in sacramento. triple-a. he did get some time with the athletics last year, played in 14 games. and he's out after venezuela. 1-2 the count. fouling it off to stay alive. >> buck: kind of pacing that breaking ball way outside. and brian bass has been throwing the ball very well. he's been in multiple roles. he's worked early in the game and been able to pitch, three, three plus innings. he can give you some late- inning closure. >> jim: castillo just -- just off the plate, but it was outside. and 0-2 on petit. bases loaded. two men down. three runs in. hard hit to short. he flips to wigginton and bass comes on and gets the orioles out of it. after all of that, three runs charged to rich hill. we'll head to the 2nd. the orioles down by 3. boss: so you've been doing a nice job out there helping people save money on car insurance. gecko: aw thank you, sir. boss: but i think there are a few other things you can say about what a reliable company geico is. gecko: right. uh, well maybe how geico's the thir

justice kennedy is a practicing lawyer in sacramento, justice ginsberg, both as an academic and a practicing lawyer before the court in the area of equal protection. justice alito, the most experienced on the bench before coming to the corn and experienced with federal prosecutors. so we are also a diverse bunch. having said that, obviously some great justices did not bring that experience. they were great judges and justices. you have to figure out exactly what it is without looking at labels. in the past, with had a lot of politicians for the court, and if they are willing to become judges and leave behind the politics, i think sad is a great resource. but i guess they were talking last night about sam chase, drawn from the political dance, and he remained a politician and the court suffered because of that. >> an additional question? yes, sir? >> chief justice, what are your favorite books, and what do you like to read in your spare time? >> i do not like to read brief in my spare time. [laughter] i like detective novels, mystery novels, the sort of things you read on the beach. i like hi

. >> the sacramento kings hired paul westphal as their new coach for two years plus an option for three years. sources told espn.com that the kings offered the job to kurt rambus, but he declined. >> coming up, after winning game three, the magic may have sent a message. don't count us out yet. full coverage from orlando is on the way. also ahead, phil mickelson. two beers! you got it! are you insured? do you know when your beer is perfectly cold? or do you risk drinking a warm one? if you have the new coors light cold-activated can, you're covered. because now every can turns blue when your beer... is as cold as the rockies. it's cold insurance, only from coors light. cold beer: that's our policy. frost-brewed coors light. the world's most refreshing beer. >> all right. and updating you in the national league, some games have gone final. the pirates beating the braves 3-2, cards battering the marlins, 13-4, the astros, a dramatic win 2-1 on a geoff blum rbi, but the phillies and mets continue to battle it out, top of the 11th inning, tied at four. bobby parnell on the mound. they just

this is a team that made 23 for 34 from the three-point line against sacramento in one game.istering hot. we understand and know that and we have to be ready for them. >> howard is always that threat inside, which is -- that's a 60% conversion. he gets the ball inside. he's going to shoot 60%. he's close enough he can finish. he leads the league in dunks. those things are devastating to defense. >> we could have done what we did a lot harder and a lot better. and so i think we've got to be careful and we're certainly not going to make wholesale changes. i think there are things we can adjust or be prepared to adjust. the main thing is we have to compete at a much higher level. >> in every series it seemed like the team that we played against had more experience than we did, you know, boston, they won the title so in that series they had more experience, cleveland has been to the finals, so they had more experience. it all boils down to who wants it more, you know, who is going to go out there and play with effort and energy and, you know, that's what we have to do. we have to

but in state capitals like to harrisburg and sacramento across this country, education is being challenged by the current economic crisis. we have to decide as americans whether we will continue educational progress or are we going to use this recession as an excuse for bringing it to a halt? are we going to give up because times are tough? are we going to mortgage our future because education is our future. it's the future or hispanic, african-american kids, but it's e future for all american kids. if this is not the time to give up on education. this is the time to stand strong. this is the time to stand strong. if that means raising revenue, as difficult as that is in this political climate, revenue must be raised to preserve education because it's the only way we will end the our jails, is the only way we will have fairness in our of -- our economic system. it's the only way everyone will have opportunity to get the cutting edge jobs that need high-technology educations. all of us have to make sure that we way in and stand up for education, however difficult time is, don't mortgage the

. >> the sacramento kings hired paul westfall as the new coach for two years plus a team option for a third season. the kings offered the job to kurt rambus hours before game three of the nba finals, but rambus passed. westphal has compiled a record. he led the suns to the 1993 nba finals in his first season as a coach in the association, westphal coached five seasons at pepperdine. as a player he played with boston, seat, and the. >> nick:s. >> the orlando magic may just be back. coming up shelly smith a report on the lakers and rachel nichols who is with the magic. phil mickelson makes an emotional return to the pga tour. >> and let's cluster score as we like to say. national league, pirates with a two-run lead over the braves, the pirates three losses in a row, top of the ninth, four outs away from the win. reds-nats in a rain delay, the reds with a 2-0 lead in the bottom of the ninth. the mets have tied up the phillies at four after cole hamels gave up four runs, 11 hits, the cards with a commanding lead over the marlins 10-4. >> phil mickelson is returning to the pga tour for the

. >> the sacramento kings hired paul westphal as their new coach for two years plus the team optioned for a third season. lead coaching sources told espn.com that the kings offered the job to kurt rambus, but he passed. >> the magic may have sent a message don't count us out yet. full coverage from orlando is on the way. phil mickelson makes an emotional return to the pga tour weeks after he and his wife, amy, discovered she has breast cancer. cñgÑ >> back on "espnews" updating you as to what's going on in the national league, the pirates have beat the braves 3-2 after a late garrett anderson home run in the bottom of the ninth, they held atlanta off at turner field, reds with a 2-0 lead over the nats, and they're three outs away, but there's a rain delay in that one, and going into the bottom of the ninth, 4-4, the phils and the mets, cole hamels gave up those four runs, and the cardinals pummelling the marlins, 13-4, in the bottom of the ninth, just outs away, rick ankiel with a homer, and he scored three runs, and the rockies and brewers in the bottom of the sixth inning, brad hawp

listen -- look at sacramento and the york. if raising taxes work, california and new york would have balanced budgets. our record, for four years, was to control all federal spending, including entitlements, at 2.9% a year for four years. the lotulowest since calvin coolidge. means you have to look at how did he do it. we also doubled the size of the national budget impasse the first tax cut in 16 years to accelerate economic growth and increased revenue through prosperity. we reformed welfare. this was not a negative. 92% of the american people favored welfare reform. by the time we won the argument, we were in a position where two out of every three people went to work or school on welfare, got off medicaid, started paying taxes, their incomes went up, their lives got better. that was real change. we reform medicare when it was scheduled to go broke. only twice since world war two has spending gone down, 1991 and 1995. i think it would be easy for domestic discretionary spending -- i think the country would be grateful to ha

. >> from sacramento, calif., she asks, what, if any, sanctions do you think should be placed on north korea? >> that is another difficult but a great question. i moved to nv when i was about four years of age. north korea and kim jong il, one of the biggest threats is not only what he may do, but also transferring those to places like iran, which is a real danger. they know it. everybody knows it. they are afraid to put too much pressure, because they do not want hundreds of thousands of refugees coming across the border, but the bottom line is that they have to get tough and cut off oil with the north koreans, and this is one of those things that, you know, the chinese do not want the japanese to have any kind of a nuclear program, but that may be one of the things where you have to say to the chinese, "i am not sure we can hold the japanese back if you are not willing to do something about the caribbean, because the japanese do not want the koreans to have nuclear weapons, and you do not want the japanese to have nuclear weapons, and this whole thing can work if they participate in

he's out of sacramento, california, and a 16 round pick in 2005. >> rob: i like the fact we have three contact guys right at the top of the order. you have willie, cristian, johnson. >> jim h.: fouls it back. >> jim p.: willie, we saw it last night, where he took a 1-2 pitch off of jeremy guthrie who looked like early on at least the first two batters, had pretty good stuff. guzman singled, then jeremy guthrie walked in a couple of runs. >> jim h.: breaking ball outside. >> rob: i always felt when you get a guy like harris who can steal bases six out of seven, you really have to play him away and pitch him that way. it's all right to throw breaking balls when you're 0-2. >> jim h.: he'll go to the bag unassisted. that ball was plastered by aubrey huff and he was able to get it in the heal of the glove. one away. salazar takes mora's place. outfield, reimold, jones, markakis. very good outfield for the orioles. thing about the orioles defense last night, they win 6-3, but they did turn four double plays. you will not have the same guys out there that were able to do that for you last ni

but in state capitals like harrisburg, in sacramento, albany, springfield, all across this country, education is being challenged by the current economic crisis. we have to decide as americans and as pennsylvanians and every state in the union, are we going to continue educational prag or are we going to use this recession as an excuse for bringing it to a halt? are we going to give up because times are a little tough? are we going to mortgage our future because education is the future? it's our future for hispanic kids, for african american kids, but for all american kids. and this is not the time to give up on education. this is the time to stand strong. this is the time to stand strong. and if that means raising revenue, as difficult as that is in this political climate, revenue must be raised to presoys education, because it is the only way, it's the only way to empty our jails. it's the only way to have fairness in our economic system. it's the only way that everyone is going to have opportunity to get the best jobs, those cutting edge jobs that need high technology education. so number

it will eventually connect sacramento, our state capital, to san diego in the south. that is the first phase will be between los angeles and san francisco, points in between. i also want to point out the private sector has to be leveraged into this too. in california we're working with the private sector so you take the $13 billion, you add the $9 billion from my state, hopefully billions from other states, and hopefully billions from the private sector that you can get involved in it. and it starts to look like something on the scale not quite what governor rendell wants, i don't think. because i think he even has a bigger plan, but i think you start to leverage and you start to see some real things happening. and i wanted to just point out that our studies, and if i am saying something that's been disproven, let me know, show that our high-speed rail in california save 12.7 million barrels a year by 2030 and reduce co-2 emissions by 12 billion pounds per year. supposed to be 160,000 construction jobs and literally they're saying california hundreds of thousands of p

. >> the sacramento kings found their man. they first offered the job to the lakers assistant.he kings hired 58-year-old paul westphal. he had coaching time in phoenix and seattle. will only earn 1.5-million dollars. >> usc head coach tim floyd resigned wednesday a month after being accused of giving $1,000 to a man who steered o.j. mayo to usca. what does dick vitale think of the quick decision made by tim floyd in the league? >> when you suddenly resign in a situation like that claiming it's enthusiasm and energy, there is a big question mark. i think there might have been a mutual agreement between tim floyd and the administration that it's best he step aside. these things are getting ugly. think about it. what did it involve? rose, mayo. players suspect academically but really great players surrounded by a bunch of people. >> the statement made on wednesday floyd said: i no think fear i can offer the level of enthusiasm deserved by the university and the supporters of southern cal. >> tuesday manny ramirez spoke. against the rules for manny. major league baseball reminded t

the "sacrament "sacramento be rh -- "the los angeles times" -- considering they have spent mounds of money on nothing to promote tourism, might do well to express a little money on wooing travelers. >> "doesn't it make sense to encourage that no cost to taxpayers foreign visiters to come here and leave us some of their money? there's no good reason not to pass this bill." the "dallas morning news" -- "travel promotion act is a sensible first step towards putting the welcome mat back on america's doorstep." and the list goes on. now, mr. president, i don't come from hawaii or florida or california. i don't come from what would be considered a tourist mecca. i come from the northern great plains. oh, it's got a lot of tourist destinations there, the badlands in north dakota some of the most beautiful areas in our country. there are so many destinations with such wonder to attract people to our region of the country. it's where lewis and clark and this epic adventure of theirs decided to spend the winter, mind you. they spent the winter in what is now just an area about 40 miles north o

so we appreciate state senator george runner joining us from the capital in sacramento. stockton, california our next caller. caller: good morning. i have a couple of points. back to the getting a handle on the government agencies and their spending. now, i used to work for a company that had government contracts with like chp, department of forestry, and the like. this time of year was particularly prosperous for the company i worked for because those agencies would be spending money hand over fist to make sure that they drained their budget before the new fiscal year started. now, that might be one way where we could rain in spending so that we don't have agencies trying to just deplete their books so they make sure they get the same amount of money on the next budget year. guest: i think there's a lot of things we need to be looking at. there's no doubt that during times when revenues are coming in and we had some very good revenue times over the last ten years, spending increased dramatically. now we've got to go back and take a hard look at how that spending went. a

>> guest: reno nevada and sacramento california and i was in a predominantly upper-class schools andblack history to me was martin luther king and rosa parks and that was it. >> host: that was the beginning in the end. >> guest: that was it, and i had found a new frontier in african-american history and was very excited about it and to get free class i could and got a minor and african-american history -- >> host: and that leads to the civil rights law i take it? >> guest: i was interested in pursuing a degree in civil rights law, and went back to the mentor of mine, dr. williams, and told him as i was graduating getting ready to take the test preparing to go to law school and choose a school and he said why are you doing this? why do you want to be a civil rights lawyer and i told him about discrimination and intolerance and how it bothered me deeply and i wanted to make that my life's work and he said okay, all right, obviously you don't care about money because you're never going to make money, you know this right? i said that isn't my motivation. i want my life to have meaning an

>> guest: reno, nevada the sacramento, california and allyson predominantly caucasian upper-middle-class schools and black history was born luther king and rosa parks. >> host: that was the end of its. >> guest: and that was it so i found a new frontier in african-american history and i was very excited about an answer to every class i took, got a minor in african-american history. >> host: that leads to civil rights law? >> guest: yes, i was very interested in pursuing a degree in civil rights law. i went back to that the mentor, dr. williams, and told him i was graduating getting ready to take the tests and choose a school. he said it why are you doing this, why do you want to be a civil rights lawyer? i told him about discrimination and intolerance and how it bothered me deeply and i wanted to go out and make that my life's work. he said, obviously you don't care about money because you are never going to make money coming in of this. i said that is not my motivation, i want my life to have meaning in the deuce of the important for my country. he was the one who said what to think abo

>> guest: we noted that the and sacramento california. i was in primarily caucasian upper-middle-class and black history to me was martin luther king and rosa parks. >> host: that was the beginning and the end. >> guest: that was pretty much it and i had found a new frontier in african-american history and was very excited about it and took every class i could and got a minor and african-american history -- >> host: and that leads to civil rights law? >> guest: yes. i was interested in pursuing a degree in civil rights law, and went back to that mentor of mine, dr. williams and told him as of this graduating getting ready to take the test and preparing to go to law school and choose a school and he said why are you doing this? why do you want to be a civil rights lawyer and i told him about discrimination and what bothers me deeply and i wanted to go out and make that my life's work and he said okay well obviously you don't care about money because you are never going to make any money, you know this, right? i said that isn't my motivatio