saddam hussein and uday we re use these.l of the research that i did ifound out were huge fans, not all of the research that i did i found out that saddam hussein was a huge fan of an art collector, and an artist named boris designed a poster of darth vader holding two sabres above his head. it is a clunky story that someone head. it is a clunky story that someone has got the talent because it is true. i have interviewed a lot of artists on hardtalk that i have never interviewed one who intrigues me in the way that you do because most artist is clearly have a commercial impetus towards most of their work, they end up with a thing that can be put in a gallery, bought and sold, moved around the world and it can be invested with value, but so it can be invested with value, but so much of what you create cannot really sit in any of those categories. for example, we are talking about the restaurant in new york or the enemy kitchen in chicago. these are experiences but they only exist in their own time and place, you cannot sell t

but at the time the us policy was that saddam hussein was largely an ally and still sold grain credits to the saddam hussein so there really was a much more like to stand on this is responding in the moment to a chemical weapons attack it is not an isolated incident it's not a one off we've seen chemical agent used in script in the u.k. we have seen kim jong un use it to kill his half brother it is becoming unfortunately to use an important term of the moment normalized if you want to reverse that trend but shar all assad must pay a very heavy price ideally i would like him to stand trial for his crimes against the syrian people in a revolutionary tribe you know after you know a glory but that doesn't necessarily happen someone needs to step in because if it is going to see someone in the united states well who else is a going to be the united states is the still remains the leader of the world if glenn greenwald but not like that anymore that's fine but if the united states does not do this no one well let's all school and greenwald. so. first of all i think it's an important point th

. ♪ david: early in the bush administration saddam hussein invaded kuwait. was it clear to you that we should go in and try to kick him out? mr. powell: it was clear to me that this was a horrible invasion and could not be allowed to stand. and the first challenge was to make sure he didn't go south into saudi arabia. and so general schwarzkopf was the commander in this region and he and i were pretty close and we talked about all of this. david: you invented something that became known as the pal doctrine. mr. powell: not quite. it was invented by a "the washington post" reporter who came to see me one day and he said i'm writing an article about the powell doctrine. i said, great. what is it? he said, what you always say and what you did when we invaded panama and took out manuel noriega. one, make sure you go to war after all diplomatic and political possibilities have been dealt with. and there has to be a clear, political objective not just a military objective. and then the second part of the powell doctrine is i used overwhelming force once but what i

saddam hussein became the hate figure for all of america and the country that you'd known through yourur mum as a place of heritage, of language, of food, of all of these positive warm feelings, suddenly was defined to most americans as somewhere hateful and frightening. yeah, my mother saw that happening right in front of us, and i remember seeing the first live real—time images of iraq that i'd ever seen in my life, which were green tinted, coming from the night vision of cnn. they were pictures of buildings that were being blown to bits, that i was never going to be able to visit. as we were watching this, my mother turned to my brothers and i and said, "you know, there's no iraqi restaurants in new york?" it was like the riddle of the sphinx. years later, i understood that she was pointing out that iraq was not visible in the us beyond oil and war. and we'll get to iraqi restaurants in new york later. because although you're an artist, one of your installations was indeed inside a restaurant and was all about food and connections between food and culture and art. but we don't want

by plants in iraq that were according to american designs in one thousand nine hundred eight saddam hussein at the end of the war bombed the kurdish villages and at that time the united states denied that saddam had done it at first they said it didn't happen and then when when roberts noted investigative journalist from this country went there and brought back soil samples that were tested important down proving that this were these were chemical weapons chemical weapons in saddam's stockpile that they had to admit to the british and the americans had to admit that chemical weapons were used later that they then came up with a story that the iranians had done it was later when they decided they wanted to get rid of saddam hussein that they admitted that he had done it and that was one of the reasons we're going to war against a great inconsistency if not hypocrisy and in syria both sides have used chemical weapons the government and the rebels and there should be a policy for stopping the use of chemical weapons but i think more importantly for stopping the war itself the by by the best es

yes. about saddam hussein's iraq, that's disrespect.e ever made because... hard for me to get down with. you know, like, it's his hands blown up a0 times. that the iraqis... it's the personification of his tyranny, really. it's... and when the soldier... they really used these darth vader helmets? they used them. saddam... that has darth vader holding two light sabres over his head. because it's true, you know. toward most of their work. really fit in any of those categories. or the enemy kitchen in chicago. but they only exist in their own time and place. no. you know, you couldn't put them up to auction at sotheby‘s. frankly, you can't really make money or make a living out of them. no. so, are you a commercial artist or not? it's not the place that i come from. living inside those buildings. but at the way that markets emerge as a sight specific place. were the ticket out of the country. have an antiquity that they may or may not want to talk to about. about iraq, family and memory. heritage and what it's given you, you've never been

some people wish that saddam hussein was still there. >> we are starting to run short on time and our fearless leader here president snyder you have to answer to him if you don't keep the proper time so i'm going to take two questions. the people behind if you would come up after the event i'm sure the panelists can answer your questions so i'm going to take your questions, a quick one and then if you could just come up after please. >> i have my question on my phone real quick. why do the u.s. leaders believe it's our obligation to impose western politics on countries that don't want to adopt a democratidemocratic self-governd why do we continue to use the military as a police force to protect countries that do not want our assistance? >> do you want a shot at that? >> that is a great question, a really good question. partly it is because the u.s. is all-powerful but also partly you think of all the problems internal to america the problems we don't deal with so you can look at infrastructure, all this and somebody is code for somebody who happens to be muslim then all hell breaks lo

with a story that the iranians had done it was later when they decided they wanted to get rid of saddam hussein that they admitted that he had done it and that was one of the reasons we're going to war against a great inconsistency if not hypocrisy and in syria both sides have used chemical weapons the government and the rebels and there should be a policy for stopping the use of chemical weapons but i think more importantly for stopping the war itself the by by the best estimate. no more than a thousand people have been killed by chemical weapons five hundred thousand people have been killed so that five hundred four hundred ninety nine thousand people have been killed by conventional weapons supplied by russia iran the united states saudi arabia qatar and turkey syria doesn't manufacture weapons the impetus should be to end the war in the use of all weapons conventional and chemical should say that but the syrian government and certainly britain the british backed rebels deny any use of chemical weapons so does the syrian government has everyone everyone does deny it and there is evidence we

regime supported by the british government the people who gave saddam hussein those weapons in the british government in european government and in the massing of a thing are still in government and they are also in major corporations so these are animals people carry out attacks and all these people should be arrested the reality is though it's it has nothing to do with chemical weapons the british the french the americans the canadians they're all giving tens of billions of dollars to the saudi regime to destroy yemen to create suffering to create mass hunger and the americans and their allies the turks unfortunately the saudi regime they've been and the israeli regime did been supporting extremist groups in syria for seven years now so i personally believe it's quite obvious that this attack was carried out in revenge for the successes of the syrian government in recapturing these from go to. moscow in syria in the aftermath of these strikes a calling for an emergency u.n. security council meeting citing american aggression what could come of that i mean given how syria and russia are b

by plants in iraq that were according to american designs in one thousand nine hundred eight saddam hussein at the end of the war bombed the kurdish village of halabja but at that time the united states denied that saddam had done it first they said it didn't happen and then when going roberts noted investigative journalist from this country went there and brought back soil samples that were tested important down proving that this were these were chemical weapons chemical weapons in saddam stockpile that they had to admit to the british and the americans had to admit the chemical weapons were used later that they then came up with a story that the iranians had done it was later when they decided they wanted to get rid of saddam hussein that they admitted that he had done it and that was one of the reasons we're going to war against a great inconsistency if not hypocrisy and in syria both sides have used chemical weapons the government and the rebels and there should be a policy for stopping the use of chemical weapons but i think more importantly for stopping the war itself the by by the be

the way to preserve your regime, to stay safe, do not have what happened to saddam hussein or colonelissue to the brink. it was one of the great challenges for the 21st century political environment. how do we get past that? maybe, weirdly, through president trump, this is it. well, the two meeting the next few weeks, roughly, so we will return that, of course. that is something we will definitely be discussing around this table in the coming weeks. meanwhile, two european leaders visited washington, dc this week. france's president emmanuel macron spent three days with donald trump. germany's chancellor angela merkel, barely three hours. they were both wanting to head off us tariffs on eu exports of steel and aluminium, and to persuade the us president to stick with the orion nuclear deal. 0nly stick with the orion nuclear deal. only one of them, perhaps, managed that visible rapport. you'll remember the endless smiles and backslapping and the us resident calling his french counterpart perfect. except for the dandruff. except for the dandruff! damning with faint praise, perhaps. pres

chemical weapons since one nine hundred eighty during the iran iraq war the united states favors saddam hussein using chemical weapons against the iranians and thousands of iranian soldiers were killed by poison gas and that's indisputable fact in some in some of that gas was manufactured by plants in iraq that were according to american designs in one nine hundred eighty eight saddam hussein at the end of the war bombed the kurdish village of halabja and at that time the united states denied that saddam had done it it first they said it didn't happen and then when when roberts noted investigative journalist from this country went there and brought back soil samples that were tested important down proving that this were these were chemical weapons chemical weapons in saddam stockpile that they had to admit to the british and the americans had to admit the chemical weapons were used by that they then came up with a story that the iranians had done it was later when they decided they wanted to get rid of saddam hussein that they admitted that he had done it and that was one of the reasons we're g

and there was a sense that a war was fought without saddam hussein having actually attacked us. so, there was-- there wasn't a viceral sense for the war. there were complexities about sunni and s shia and islam that were simply not understood by people who made the decision. we were kicking over the situation of immense complexity with great ignorance and we did no proper planning. i'm more amazed there wasn't more prosecution of the people that did this rather than the other way around. i'm not at all surprised about i'm not at all surprised about i am not at all surprised of the anger of the allied casualties with hundreds of thousands and it was in better shape than it was before the attack on baghda baghdad. i remember watching that night shock and all exclusions and thinking we will pay a price for this you cannot just go in and do this without proof they are behind the attack. that is my view but probably not one generally shared. >> just one more question but it seems lately you have had enough for the sympathy of terrorism politically now how do you feel? >> yes. i think

the same message, poison gas was used and we invaded saddam hussein, fought a military solution, andt unleashed chaos. i think this president is smarter and if he uses force, will also have a plan to work out an agreement, a corporative agreement to bring all these sites together. -- all the sides together. shery: the russian foreign minister reiterated the chemical attack was staged by foreign agents, seeming to be a under mental gap in understanding what is going on on the ground and how do you compromise on something as simple as that? >> any type of use of gas is wrong. let's face the facts, not only gas kills people but civilians ivy tens of thousands being get -- by the tens of thousands killed because of the conflict in syria. we need to work with the russians and other people, including the anti-bush are a solid sod -- anti-bashar al-assad and bashar al-assad, the dictatorial nation of him, is using an excuse for just military action does not work. them knowing we are capable of military action and doing this, we can make sure that they know we can reach a compromise that wil

and there was a sense that a war was fought without saddam hussein having actually attacked us. so, there was-- there wasn't a viceral sense for the war. there were complexities about sunni and s shia and islam that were simply not understood by people who made the decision. we were kicking over the situation of immense complexity with great ignorance and we did no proper planning. i'm more amazed there wasn't more prosecution of the people that did this rather than the other way around. i'm not at all surprised about the anger, the allied casualties were light and the casu casualties among the iraqis, hundreds of thousands, and if it was in better shape in baghdad. ap i remember seeing the shock and awe and explosions and the rest of it and thinking we will pay a price for this. you can't just go in and do this somewhere without proof they're actually behind the attack on your country and you can expect trouble down the pike. that's my view and probably not a view generally shared, but it would be mine. >> host: just one more question about politics. you're a long-time laborite

there was sectarianism under saddam hussein? no.e was a secular leader. definitely, he had shortcomings and was brutal, no question, but iraq was, you know, a stone of stability in the middle east, whether we like it or not. secondly, what we witnessed, we witnessed islamic state and isis emerging, there. now the crisis in syria. now we are having the russians coming to the region. iran reaps the benefit of that war, iraq in particular, iran has the upper hand. we had a very serious summit taking place in ankara just a few days ago. russia, turkey and iran are working together and i believe there is a nucleus of a new alliance taking place in that part. the middle east is completely dangerous. there is no stability at all. that is the problem. the people who were behind, and supported, this war in iraq, are they saying, "ok, let us look at this situation, are we going to repeat this experience in the middle east? what will happen in syria?" the west is losing the battle in syria and iraq for the benefit of russia and iran. the presi

, and he sees saddam hussein out.e sees moammar gadhafi, gave up his weapons of destruction program, out. he clearly can see that it's not the best bet in this environment to give up nuclear weapons. he's right. right? i mean, he needs also some assurances? >> yes. this is a very rational box that he is sitting in, and he's actually in the driver's seat at the moment, because everybody wants him to do a variety of things, and he has nothing else to worry about in the world, except these summits and these negotiations, while the presidents and prime ministers of the other countries are have many things on their plate to deal with. he will be extremely well prepared. extremely on top of his game and, yes, he wants to make sure his regime is secure. so part of that original definition that we were talking about, denuclearization, what's what mean? what are we and he trying to achieve? he wants regime security. and he'll have some very particular things that he will want reassurances about. >> and, of course, the chatters

british forces their mission is to attack iraq's nuclear chemical and biological weapons programs saddam hussein must not be allowed to threaten this neighbors are the world with nuclear arms poison gas or biological weapons now any aircraft fire everywhere i remember. he can forget the actual operation desert storm north by president george h.w. bush when the economy in recession the gulf war based as his approval ratings i have therefore directed to reject the iraqi army from kuwait. which. is president i can report to the nation aggression is defeated the war is over. you don't have to know that to fall back in history to see world leaders employing distraction tactics so i ask us how this question what would dominate an international media narrative the possibility of a global war or the domestic troubles of a western country you want me to produce your war not a war it's a pageant we need to think. some visuals we need to know it's a pageant well to ask how the media affects trump's decisions as to how water affects of fish truck lives and breathes by media ratings approval there is a long

about theic stories invasion force of saddam hussein in kuwait, marching into a ,ospital and killingabies newborn babies in their incubators. a complete hoax, but it horrified the amerco people and made it easier to justify going to war in the full -- first gulf war as well. it is not just the weapons of mass destruction testimony of secretary powell at the united nations for the second gulf war. it is not unusual that we have these -- the media, of course, fix up on them and continues to spread the information without real fact checking as to whether this is accurate or not. >> that is right. at the time we stick all of the cnn factor. now we would probably call it the twitter factor. it is the same phenomenon. in many cases, you are real, horrific event. i am certainly not saying this event did not occur. but i think there have been so many horrific attacks on syrian civilians by all sides in this war, by the syrian regime, by the russians and iranians, by the united states, by u.s. qatar.-- saudi arabia, there are no good guys. there been atrocities carried in against syrian civil

i'm sympathetic to this administration, you saw what happened saddam hussein and reremember saddam husseinmical weapons back against his own people in 1991 and previous attempts as well. and they've all finally getting him to stop that. and the cost of doing it, but what i worry about this, it's ineffectual and i do worry about mission accomplished. i was in georgia and met with some-- they're not any better off today than-- >> sir, we're having some problems with your audio. apologize for that or maybe it's your phone. >> no problem. neil: congressman, is it your view that any follow-up move, i've heard from a number of congressmen, republicans and democrats, that this should get the okay of congress. what do you think? >> i think from ooh equal standpoint it should. there's no legal justification in our history for just -- and look, president trump is not the only president in the united states who has ever done this. the campaign in libya went down to six days and hospitality. it's a long-running problem and i think you'd be much better off if the president came to congress and asked fo

tesco first of all, and let me say in 1991 after the invasion of kuwait by saddam hussein, president bush said they shall not stand and televise the fact he was moving towards the iraqi invasion. that's a different situation. that involves major movement of troops in the planet which are easily seen by everybody. for a strike in response to these chemical weapons for instance as we saw in the last week, you know, it would probably have been indications the united states is putting assets in the face even if the president hadn't said anything. i'm not sure what really impacted had in the end. there are reports that the series but their forces into the defensive mode which made it much harder to hit other aspects that chemical weapons such as delivery means. >> host: did the timing of that, after that first read about this? tesco that is my understanding. but again, it is quite possible almost every time we as forces, all these leaks in the paper that the pentagon is preparing a response, it's possible they would've done things anyhow. in light of the strike last year that the nerve ag

whether to march into baghdad and take out saddam hussein, same enemy bedeviled his father. but he has his father and he's right there and it's he one and and only time he asks his father what to do. she said, son you know how tough war is but if the man notice complying, eluding to u.n. sanctions, the provisions put on the agreement that saddam hussein made you have no choice. so, that is just remarkable and -- so ethic in so many respects. why didn't it eh go back to old man for more advice and why didn't the talk further but is? all things are questions i delved interest more deeply be talking to the two men. it is a fascinating symmetry and we may well never again have a father-son president or a mother-daughter 0, a mother-son or any kind of combination like that in our history. >> there's one detail of the dream, weird detail that it attach to that part of the dream was george h.w. bushes playing golf on a good golf course and can he dream is his father is next door at a muni, a letters golf course. >> who knows what that means. that it doesn't fit there is the bushes

that case was predicated on the existence of weapons of mass destruction in iraq controlled by saddam hussein's regime and it was discovered later that that turned out to be wrong now no did that inaccuracy fundamentally change the transatlantic relationship i'm not so sure did it fundamentally change relations with europe because remember europe's europeans were deeply divided over the iraq issue i'm not so sure about that as well. on the contrary i think that in many ways european integration is strengthened from the experience and relations across the atlantic and strengthened from the experience because we've all learned that paying attention your allies is a good thing to do and to keep them in board in terms of the communication strategy let's not forget george w. bush's administration in the first instance when the iraq war was prosecuted was actually much more of a go it alone administration the second george w. bush administration set as a priority building and strengthening relations with europe and so i i would argue that when these kinds of mistakes happen the natural thing among fr

like saddam hussein if you don't these minority sixty eight in the genes are used to overreaching to give a signal to the mystical ideas that we out of the off and we we use force will regardless of what the tension situation is owed with it it's very difficult to rationalize it that he but these regimes have mobility jeems of so much spite against the majority population and they have little legitimacy digital you see other than being holding the see the fall and tyson what do you think will be strikes against the government i think that will likely depend on the syrian government itself i mean the u.s. administration has made clear that they do have a red line in this case if there is more chemical attacks there will be a response from the united states and its allies but this is a great point that minority regimes and in the region governed by fear the source of legitimacy is fear and that is something that up to this point the trumpet ministration has not been willing to respond to ok is the trumpet ministration willing to keep american troops in the north of the country of follo

really except you know back in the eighty's when saddam hussein attacked iran and we had in the mid ninety's when the terrorist group in japan i'm sure riccio tried to use sarin nerve agent in the tokyo subway was and so this this these latest occurrences in syria number one since since really two thousand and twelve accusations were made originally in late two thousand and twelve the syria was using chemical weapons but then syria joined the convention of course under pressure from the you know bilateral sides from russia and the united states and now this whole scriptural assassination attempt in in england it's just very troubling their weekly meetings of the executive council in the o.p sebi trying to figure out what to do and what's true and who's to blame and course we all know that there have been a number of recent meetings just a couple days ago the last one of the u.n. security council as well now are you just mentioned that you worked a lot in russia you visited i heard you say that you visited every single russian chemical weapons stockpile until it was destroyed last year the gr

saddam hussein, and saddam hussein... hussein... else's civil war, which side do you want to win?on the other. jihadists on the other. force, and there is but it is a limited one. it is the kurds. voted for, bombing isis in iraq, it was quite clear. was quite clear. that we wanted the iraqi government to win and we wanted isis to lose. to win and we wanted isis to lose. that will do to international terrorism, topple the syrian regime. terrorism, topple the syrian regime. we have been set up against each other... you haven't, to be fair. have finished the interview with mr mercer. but it is a fact... contingent on the defence committee, chairman of the committee itself. chairman of the committee itself. does something like this, there are enough. enough. and i could see some convergence of view on this. convergence of view on this. would you support that, for example? convergence of view on this. triumphs you can expect bad consequences. consequences. very different from the mantle branches of islam. branches of islam. -- very different fundamental branches of islam. fundamental b

it is a reviled group ephod alongside saddam hussein. group that fought alongside saddam hussein. i think it is very scary what they may be willing to do in order to frustrate u.s. interest with iran and potentially try to take the united states into a war a violent regime change against iran. frankly, this terrifying. amy: today the supreme court is taking up the issue of the third travel ban a president trump known as a muslim man. among the countries that -- whose citizens are for bidden to come here is iran. your thoughts on the significance of this? >> it is interesting. if you look at in the context of the nuclear deal, two years later, iran thought they were going to be integrated into the global economy and it would have these benefits. and now we're on the verge of this deal collapsing. ordinary iranians who have no connection to the arena government or any of these issues are now banned from coming to the united states. i'm hopeful be supreme court will strike this band down and find this is a band that was a matter of taking the political rhetoric that donald trump enga

british forces their mission is to attack iraq's nuclear chemical and biological weapons programs saddam hussein must not be allowed to threaten this neighbors are the world with nuclear arms poison gas or biological weapons now any aircraft fire everywhere i remember. who can forget the actual operation desert storm launched by president george h.w. bush when the economy in recession the gulf war based it his approval ratings. have therefore directed to reject the iraqi army from kuwait. which. is president i can report to the nation aggression is defeated the war is over. you don't have to look too far back in history to see world leaders employing distraction tactics so this question what would dominate an international media narrative the possibility of a global war or the domestic troubles of a western country you want me to produce or not a war it's a pageant we need a thing or so some visuals we know it's a pageant well to us how the media of trump's decision as to how water affects of fish truck lives and breathes by media ratings approval there is a long tradition.

it is a reviled group ephod alongside saddam hussein. group that fought alongside saddam hussein. i think it is very scary what they may be willing to do in order to frustrate u.s. interest with iran and potentially try to take the united states into a war a violent regime change against iran. frankly, this terrifying. amy: today the supreme court is taking up the issue of the third travel ban a president trump known as a muslim man. among the countries that -- whose citizens are for bidden to come here is iran. your thoughts on the significance of this? >> it is interesting. if you look at in the context of the nuclear deal, two years later, iran thought they were going to be integrated into the global economy and it would have these benefits. and now we're on the verge of this deal collapsing. ordinary iranians who have no connection to the arena government or any of these issues are now banned from coming to the united states. i'm hopeful be supreme court will strike this band down and find this is a band that was a matter of taking the political rhetoric that donald trump enga

or urgent need for military action against saddam hussein's government it also highlighted blair's certainty that eruption including chemical and biological unjustified the u.k. lost one hundred knows it's making themselves few so early this is this case the americans the europeans and the british have always wanted to be patient attack the daughter of former double agent service crew powell has lost the game is also recovering but is a source for proof or see from the media and i want to reiterate a request her father has also made good progress that he was no longer in a critical condition meant confirming that us cripple has indeed been discharged and they said that this isn't the difficulty and miles stone ripple bisi here in the u.k. saying that we congratulate you on her recovery but we need according to her own free will now the medical and medical prognosis catastrophic grave next to what media reports in the first few days some of them even jumped the gun saying that the script had been murdered and when she is unlikely to change in the near future and they may never recover fully b

doable and i can really give it up i could give john i did john is not in the same position as saddam hussein. but you had to go hide it that's why he developed it in the first place to trade away for security guarantees it seems logical to me exactly. exactly let me explain that point also you know what is a nuclear weapon the focus of a nuclear weapon is to call unacceptable damage to the adversary he already can do unacceptable damage to their adversary by crushing seoul with this conventional guns and therefore a nuclear weapon over and above that is something that he can leverage and he can bargain and which is exactly what he is doing and therefore i would say that this is doable this is a great opportunity but what we have to do also is this cannot be a process which has sprung out over many years on a decade on its action for action with five hundred steps which then breaks down after twenty steps this has to be a big grand bargain account in a truncated where and then to define time period and i think it's doable let me go to look at let me go to john john you're on the negotiating t

didn't threaten saddam hussein's rule, but it did protect the kurds. do you think we could do that militarily in parts of syria? >> i think that would be possible with the cooperation of the turks and with at least a conversation with the russians. the last thing, though, we need to try and do is establish a safe zone where there's current conflict and where there are differing interests and arguments over who should control that safe zone. paul: you think have to have the cooperation of the russians? >> i think at least the acknowledgment on their part that such a zone would be in the benefit of the situation in syria. paul: okay. admiral, thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you. paul: u.n. ambassador nikki haley warning the world that america's locked and loaded and ready to respond if syria uses chemical weapons again. our panel's take on how russia will react and what it means for the future in syria, next. ♪ ♪ how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we're changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ulti

overthrew the saddam hussein regime in iraq, which was a shia minority government in a sunni majorityntry, and they are trying to return the favor by getting rid of assad. until someone can take a step back and say this has to stop, there is no chance of peace at all. brent: definitely right they are speak to how complicated and how difficult the situation is in syria. that is definitely the truth, this evening. ambassador, we appreciate you taking the time to be on the show tonight. thank you. robert: thank you. brent: yulia skripal has left the hospital in britain and has been taken to a secret, secure location. skripal and her father, an ex-ru ssian spy, were poisoned by a nerve agent in britain and month ago. it is not known what she wants to do. reporter: at one point it was feared yulia skripal would die in this hospital. after steady improvement in her health, doctors have deemed her well enough to leave. >> i want to take this opportunity to wish yulia well. this is not the end of her treatment but marks a significant milestone. reporter: five weeks ago, yulia and her father w