or if you go back to 2018, the salisbury poisonings, pressure says -- russia says its agents in salisburytourists and that britain stage the whole thing. the list goes on and on. i think that we don't really know what happened. we don't know what brought down the plane. what was on it or who was on it. think it is clear that whatever really happened, moscow is decided to seize the opportunity to score some political points. christian: as you say, we do know in the ukrainians say that moscow is trying to create rifts within ukrainian society. a lot of families are desperate for their loved ones to,. -- for their loved ones to come home. it may well up in full of prisoners, this plane, but the question is who shot it down. that is what we don't know, whether it was the ukrainians or the russians who shot it down. will: yes, we don't know. perhaps more will become clear in the coming days. today there was a briefing of the u.s. state department and the representative was asked if the u.s. has more information about this, and the americans also said they are still trying to establish the trut

among these conventions, the salisbury—addison conventions, the salisbury—addison convention is especiallyral. the convention has a number of parts that, in simplifying matters for reasons of time, one is that a government bill with manifesto characteristics will be given a second reading in the house, and we can see that the convention as a number of people concerned about it, and i am preparing a series of papers on this convention at the moment. for my part, ifeel that this convention is engaged here, and accordingly i will not be supporting the amendment to the second reading of the motion in the name of the noble lord, lord german. the convention also has elements concerning the speed with which the house will consider things. the house will consider things. the houseis house will consider things. the house is already assisting the speed of consideration of this bill. we have changed our business around and freed up today for the second reading. three days have been set aside for committee, which given the likely number of amendments that will be tabled, could only work if the house s

poisonings, russia said its agents there in salisbury were torahs and that britain staged the wholeoes on and on and i think we don't really know what happened or what brought on the plane, what was on it or who was on it, but i think it is clear that whatever really happened, moscow has decided to seize the opportunity to score some political points. figs to seize the opportunity to score some political points.— to seize the opportunity to score some political points. as you say, we do know— some political points. as you say, we do know and _ some political points. as you say, we do know and that _ some political points. as you say, we do know and that ukrainian . some political points. as you say, i we do know and that ukrainian say, moscow is trying to create rifts within ukrainian society, lots of families were desperate for their love ones to come home. it may well be full of visitors, this plane, the question is who shut it down, whether it's the ukrainians are the russians who shut it down. yes. whether it's the ukrainians are the russians who shut it down. yes, we don't know.

because of me, my platoon spent a very wet and cold night out in the open on salisbury plain guardinghe parade ground was chaotic, my shirt wouldn’t button up, my boots came off and i was repeatedly... subjected to horrific abuse by sergeant major regiment, the man behind verbal cruelty, which probably hid a heart of gold. he punished us for our many mistakes by ordering us to clean the restrooms, and then, before calling us in for inspection, he would secretly smear large chunks of peanut butter on things. but boris appears to be in the minority, with only 17% of britons happy to go to war if it happened. 14% say they would go to war if. they were forced, the majority - 30%, would have used all possible moves to avoid fighting at all, and what happened to to our great british fighting spirit , it is simply impossible to maintain in the modern world, while we have entered a more dangerous phase of modern history, we must be prepared for the unexpected, look, no one wants a war to break out, but that does not mean that we shouldn't be ready for it. but you can be sure that if it really

.303 caliber rifle, because of me my platoon spent a very damp and cold night in the open air of salisburyin, guarding what turned out to be the wrong flaxstock. my performance on the parade ground was chaotic, my shirt wouldn't button up, my boots came off and i was repeatedly subjected to horrific abuse by the regimental sergeant major, a man whose verbal cruelty probably hid a heart of gold, he punished us for... 17% of the british with would gladly go to fight but apparently boris is in the minority, only to go to war, if it happened, 14% say that they would go to war if they were forced, the majority - 30%, would use every possible move to avoid fighting at all, and what happened to our great british fighting spirit, it is simply impossible. support in the modern world, while we have entered a more dangerous phase of modern history, we must be prepared for the unexpected, look, no one wants a war to break out, but this does not mean that we should not be prepared for it , but you can rest assured that if it really came to... don't think that war is not possible, or that the present pe

but that's going to be unpopular hearing in salisbury and perhaps in the us, but certainly many people want to see some negotiations take place again involving appealing yang. frank fremont. thank so much for your analysis. let's frank smith, freelance, journalist and sole south korea for many of the wells business leaders all gathered in the small winter sports result of devil since with switzerland this week for the 54th weld economic for him to united states is today include b and you commission president of left on the line. i'm the ukranian president. the lot of me so lensky earlier earlier, the chinese premier lee can may be case that his country, his speech in doubles comes as many western economies are moving to de risk from china, moving investment out of the country and into other markets. so it has to be less dependent on aging. to lee is the most senior chinese official and devil since 2017. when the president sees in ping attended before, and dw correspondent ben say, who didn't was the following chinese. the chinese premier is speech in douglas for us. he is going to be t

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few years, we have seen terrorist attacks on the streets of london, attempted assassinations in salisburyrference in our political processes. a cost of living crisis brought to you by putin that is hurting families here at home. and now, ourtrade, 90% of hurting families here at home. and now, our trade, 90% of which comes by c, is the target of terrorists. —— that comes by sea. proving not only do our adversaries have at the end and tend to target as but have a widening array of weapons with which to wreak havoc. in our online world, our adversaries don�*t need to fire a missile or board a submarine or strap into a fighterjet to hurt us. cyber warfare simply means hacking into our networks and watching the economic carnage unfold. last year, almost a third of british businesses suffered a cyber attack or breach and the total cost to the uk economy, well, that runs into billions. we know significant number of those attacks come from russia and china, where they are also developing satellite killing technology, capable of degrading us from space. even mass migration can be cynically used a

that means, you know, basically pointing to is margaret salisbury bought from the army that they wanted to be a challenge for those entities. and that's why he was brought up a biased between 8 or 9 in 1997. when he started his political parties. after the 2013, you know, he was not a political, heavy baby. and all of a sudden it will all of these uh, the election uh the, the, the easy to find additional. what's called the selective was elective as was handed over to him. and that was the reason for his mess. you know, when, but his popularity mostly is on, you know, social media and mostly the focus on is we're living outside focused on up. and that's why we cannot say that he is the most popular data that he has made mistakes . and that is why dislike many functions that he's facing about. thank you for speaking to us today. i really appreciate your thoughts on the situation and me a galleria to at the news international. thank you. i think it, it keeps posting, vamos, and phones have bloke to the road to attend news about an i can pull to in the country south. i've also obstructed ma

let's talk to wayne in salisbury, connecticut. good morning. caller: hi. how are you doing today?t: hi. caller: ok. things are not looking good for me and they have alwa been kind of rough. i'm 67 yea old. i had cancer at 24earsld. i was going to school, college, and unions -- i went to ups actually, just to loes a night. i figured i would do that wh going to school. it'd bereat i'm also a vet. an i go in there, they say, you then they go and tell me just have to go and get the physso io there and she goes take off your shirt and we are going to check your heart so i have a scar going up my abdomen. she literally walked to her desk, closedhe folder, and said, oh, we will be in touch with you. one year, a business was hiring, and they were hiring anybody and everybody kind of deal. i guesshey had gotten the contract when they first -- the choppers they are using now. i forget the name them. but i never got a job there. and my mother actually worked there so, you know, it's because of my physical state that no union wants to hire me because i have a history of cancer or whatever. an

oh salisbury. >> my problem is. oh salisbury. yeah. know cathedral . yeah.o go into salzburg. >> i paid to go into salzburg. >> a classic story. >> look, it's a classic story. it's go. whoa! broke. have to it's go. whoa! go broke. have to charge church charge £29 because the church of england woke. no one's england is now so woke. no one's going anymore . and cathedrals, going anymore. and cathedrals, because christianity is sort of dying going to dying out. no one's going to cathedrals, have to charge. >> that's the charge that makes sense have surge pricing sense to have like surge pricing on . you what mean? on this. you know what i mean? i mean, sunday. yeah being mean, on a sunday. yeah being able go in for free between able to go in for free between 11 and 1 or something. and attend and the attend a service and then the rest week would you rest of the week would be, you know, when someone know, you can tell when someone is purposes, is there for tourist purposes, a little pin outside. is there for tourist purposes, a littiyeah. pin outside. is there fo

joe salisbury, neal skupski and lloyd glasspool all progressed in the doubles earlier, whilst the britishles tomorrow. defending champion novak djokovic was among those on court today. a confrontation with a spectator was the spark he said he needed to fightback and beat the home favourite alexei popyrin. at one stage it looked like a shock exit might be on the cards for the defending champion as rob heath reports. 0nly only once in ia grand slam matches had novak djokovic beaten by an australian. after losing the first set, alexei popyrin�*s hopes of joining in that exclusive group look slim. the second, things change. novak djokovic slightly under the weather, health—wise. he looked unusually sluggish. alexei popyrin looked inspired. maybe thoughts of an ozzie victory were not such a leave of fate. alexei popyrin the better player in the third as well, four times he had a set point but novak djokovic inevitably proved unbreakable. the scenes bothered by his wrist in fourth and then distracted by a heckler in the crowd. novak djokovic invited the individual to have a chat. match temporar

the so—called salisbury» in 2019. the so—called salisbury convention won't apply.m sure the lords will send this bill back with a number of amendments. that's almost would expect . almost what you would expect. but parliament in the but i think parliament in the commons should stand firm in rejecting those amendments, in making sure that this bill, as i say , unamended, gets onto the say, unamended, gets onto the statute books because that is the strongest possible version within an inch of putting the rwandans off within an inch of risking greater legal challenge . risking greater legal challenge. if we go any further, we run that risk . if we weaken it, we that risk. if we weaken it, we run the risk of it not working. so i the as i say, the so i think the as i say, the house of lords, is house of lords, of course, is entitled view. it's a entitled to its view. it's a revising chamber, but think revising chamber, but i think the should stand firm in the commons should stand firm in the commons should stand firm in the position it's taken this evening. >> you think

no, it wasn't so the salisbury convention won't apply. on for apply.s can go on for a yeah apply. this can go on for a year. no one thinks it will, though, because the scale, the convention nigel scale of convention is nigel scale of that . the second that majority. the second or third should mean third reading should mean it shouldn't obstructed . shouldn't be obstructed. >> could be. >> but it still could be. >> but it still could be. >> could be. and the names >> still could be. and the names out there, 70 peers speaking today, about 9:30. david today, voting about 9:30. david blunkett it frankly blunkett calling it frankly ridiculous. blunkett , ridiculous. david blunkett, former secretary, former labour home secretary, lord german lib dem saying it puts uk at risk of breaching puts the uk at risk of breaching our commitments under international lord international law. lord ponsonby, labour's shadow home affairs spokesman, making the same point. your point about international law is understood and where it's going. and that's where it's going. mayb

so whether the salisbury convention can apply is not clear. so they may not be able do that.ey able to do that. i think they may not, but they probably will. >> it will give another >> and it will give another opportunity to opportunity for the right to table amendments that just won't get through. but, uh , there is get through. but, uh, there is a chance the ends up chance that the bill ends up being down, you say. being watered down, as you say. i arguably, by the way, this is more serious. i think to many people it's serious than people it's more serious than brexit. brexit was about sovereignty . on paper this brexit. brexit was about sovereignty. on paper this is about in practice about sovereignty in practice and practice . and in practice. >> you must worry paul richards that tories doing their that the tories are doing their best deal with problem, that the tories are doing their best has al with problem, that the tories are doing their best has not'ith problem, that the tories are doing their best has not been problem, that the tories are doing their best has not be

it's more there to delve into the fine print and under the salisbury addison convention, the house ofs is not meant to block legislation, at least at second reading. that is, in elected party's manifestos and reducing immigration was in the 29 manage nato. so the real question is, is the house of lords on thin ice.7 there is the house of lords on thin ice? there was a big attempt to reform it under the coalition there's a feeling that appointed peers don't have legitimacy and it's got much more deeply involved in the weeds of politics, particularly conservative politics, in recent years. is this something that a democracy we can cope with or are the benefits of the house of lords still sufficient to outweigh this obstacle? this disadvantage ? as always, i want disadvantage? as always, i want to hear from you, mal margaret gb news. com joining me now is the united kingdom's first and primary constitutional expert . primary constitutional expert. sir vernon bogdanor and michael crick , our panellist is also crick, our panellist is also with me to discuss this. vernon. first of all, than

know, it's good stories and we've it's all good stories and we've tested in tested it somewhere in salisburysure not quite sure what not sure i'm not quite sure what we're supposed to do because we're supposed to do now because like say, the iran is like we're supposed to do now because like puppeteerhe iran is like we're supposed to do now because like puppeteer and an is like we're supposed to do now because like puppeteer and it'ss like we're supposed to do now because like puppeteer and it'ss likpunch the puppeteer and it's got punch and judy all domestic and judy doing all the domestic abuse sausages . abuse and arguing over sausages. i where this analogy i don't know where this analogy is but, but is going and but, but but ultimately is puppeteer ultimately it is the puppeteer is that sits behind all this. >> oh , sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> we've got to go. unless you've got it. didn't feel like it be a brief point. it was gonna be a brief point. so just felt so it just felt long. >> no, it's it's not true. >> no, it's not it's not true. it's blaming. like. it's like blaming

so they can't use what's known as the salisbury to convention force it through.g pong . the hope is, i think, that pong. the hope is, i think, that the lords see sense and allow this to go forward , because the this to go forward, because the government want the first government does want the first flights by may or flights taking off by may or june this year. and lord christopher, perhaps not awfully helpful to rishi sunak is the fact that, uh , conservatives, fact that, uh, conservatives, some conservatives are coming out saying, well, not ruling out leaving the echr saying it would be a good thing. >> sarah dines, former home office minister, saying that it would be a good thing to leave the you kemi badenoch the echr you had kemi badenoch on channel yesterday saying on this channel yesterday saying that she wouldn't rule it out , that she wouldn't rule it out, but not very helpful to rishi sunak. >> no , i thought kemi badenoch >> no, i thought kemi badenoch was quite interesting with camilla tominey on our channel yesterday . she was saying they yesterday. s

, assassinations in salisbury, theft of intellectual property , theft of intellectual property, attemptede in our political processes, a cost of living crisis brought to you by putin. that's hurting hurting families here at home. and now our . trade, 90% of families here at home. and now our. trade, 90% of which comes by sea, is the target of terrorists , proving that not terrorists, proving that not only do our adversaries have the intent to target us, but they have a widening array of weapons with which to wreak havoc in our onune with which to wreak havoc in our online world. our adversaries don't need to fire a missile or board a submarine or strap into a fighter jet to hurt us. cyber warfare simply means hacking into our networks and watching the economic carnage unfold. last year, almost a third of british businesses suffered a cyber attack or breach, and the total cost to the uk economy will. that runs into billions. we know significant number of those attacks come from russia and china , where they're also and china, where they're also developing satellite killing technology capab

in salisbury, north carolina. ñis this joyce? caller: yes it is, hello.to mute the tv. i'm sorry. the lady who called and she was catholic. how could anyone vote for trump? i thought catholics were against abortion. they talk about hate and divisiveness, did they not see president biden hate the maga republicans. that's 70-80 million people that he hates. i don't understand how people can constantly blame trump and the maga republicans. we are out of time, after the break we will speak to dina titus of nevada talking about the government spending battle and house republican efforts to impeach alejandra mayorkas. we will be right back. ♪ watch c-span's campaign 2020 four live coverage of the iowa caucuses as a candidate's make their final pitches before the caucus-goers. featuring campaign analysis with top experts that we can call and get your social media reactions. c-span now, our free mobile app or online at c-span.org/campaign 2024. c-span, your unfiltered view of politics. if you ever miss c-span's coverage you can find it any time online at c-span.o

let's talk to wayne in salisbury, connecticut. good morning. caller: hi. how are you doing today?ost: hi. caller: ok. things are not looking good for me and they have always been kind of rough. i'm 67 years old. i had cancer at 24 years old. i was goin school, college, and unions -- i went to ups, actually, just to load boxes at i figured i would do that while going to schoo it'd be great. i'm also a vet. and i go in there, they say, you got the job. then they go and tell me you just have to gget the physical, so i gore and she goes take off your shirt and we are going to check your heart so i have a scar going up my abdomen. she literally walked to her desk, closed the folder, and said, oh, we will be in touch with you. one year, a business was hiring, and they were hiring anybody and everybody kind of deal. i guess they had gotten the contract when they first -- the choppers they are using now. i forget the name of them. but i never got a job there. and my mother actually worked there so, you know, it's because of my physical state that no union wants to hire me because i have a

do exist, but override the lords do exist, but one is something the one is something called the salisburyuse if you're you can only use if you're talking about something was talking about something that was in rwanda plan in a manifesto rwanda plan wasn't. in the 2019 manifesto, and got the and then you've got the parliament but the way parliament acts. but the way they work you have to send they work is you have to send something to the lords. multiple times over the space of more than a year. so it's simply not possible for that to happen to force things through in the lords. so if this is going to become law, he's going to have to find a way to get enough peers on side to vote it through. think it's going through. so i think it's going to very passage in to be very difficult passage in the particularly, you the lords particularly, you know, not a lot of know, there's not a lot of parliamentary time left between now potentially now and when there's potentially going election. now and when there's potentially 90111] election. now and when there's potentially goiii mean, election. now and

the so—called salisbury convention won't apply , so the lords could challenge it and be quite difficultteresting. the clip that we had the news polly had there on the news with polly , some very , um, the pm used some very distinct language. he said this is elected house is what the elected house of lords let's see what the lords wants. let's see what the appoint the elected house of commons wants. let's see what the appointed house of lords wants. the point we're wants. the point is, we're elected. they're have elected. they're not. they have no oppose what we want. no right to oppose what we want. and of legitimacy , and it's an idea of legitimacy, i hear played a i think you'll hear played out a lot unelected lords lot. why can the unelected lords frustrate the will of the people? that's the whole tone going forward. yeah. >> and i think at this point, can i please turn to you, lord hayward, because this is again, echoes of brexit, where there's a huge feeling that the, the electorate wanted the politicians to enforce brexit, the politicians, in the end reluctantly agree. but the lor

the second and third reading of 40 or so mps, and also the salisbury convention, which means that ife lords. that doesn't apply . but i don't think the apply. but i don't think the lords will want to shut it down. it will come to a crucial vote at third reading after it's been through various iterations of being changed and strengthened as different. as it goes between different. the commons lords. and the commons and lords. and that's when the peers that's the point when the peers could i don't think could sink it. i don't think there's the will for that to happen. as lord lisvane happen. um, but as lord lisvane said night, he thinks it said last night, he thinks it shouldn't seen as commons shouldn't be seen as a commons versus lords issue. but a parliament versus government issue. that's we're issue. and that's where we're going it. going with it. >> a clever sort of >> and that's a clever sort of framing we're asserting framing to say we're asserting the sovereignty of parliament. it's parliament that's sovereign, government, sovereign, not the government, that's . therefore, tha