right after that meeting, that's when sally yates floats the logan act as the flynn violation which isxactly why the agents went to the white house on january 27th. this was a frame. -uframe-up from dayone. >> a minute to explain, this whole thing started with a leak to the "washington post" by a columnist, really a typist for the democrat party. he does that and then in that leak the person who committed two crimes by telling him about the facts of the conversation with kiz lee yak an kislyak andl flynn who was part of it, unmasking and leaking his name, the person also gave him the tidbit about the logan act. putting out the logan act in that column then allowed sally yates and the justice department to say oh my goodee goodness, is what we have to investigate. it was very well-planned. lou: it's an absurdity and an insult to say they're prosecuting under the logan act because it's unprosecutable. and secondly their conduct with general flynn. this poor man has been -- the judge basically tried to gut this man today instead of defend him as a defendant in front of the awesome power o

the sally yates thing is history. why are we going for it now?melissa: what about the fisa warrant and the dossier? >> judge napolitano: listen, i have signed search warrants where i later learned that the officials who came to me and sought the search warrant didn't tell me everything. they either didn't know it at the time, or they learned it afterward. >> harris: did you punish them? >> judge napolitano: i negated the fruits of the search warrant. that doesn't stop the investigation. that doesn't make the defendant be set free. it just prevents them from using that item that they seized. >> lisa: i would like to respond to you, judge. first of all, you have, regarding the dossier, james comey was the one that briefed president trump on the dossier. cnn was looking for a news hook. we know that. after the meeting, it leaked and the dossier was published. i wonder why, and i who is behind a question mark i have questions about that. also, regarding james comey, if anybody wants have concerned if there is bias or animus against this president wit

. >> sally yates. >> and actually did only a file on the logan act. so there were many people that he apparently hoodwinked. he had his own kind of sort of closet operation involving turkey and an effort perhaps to acquire nuclear weapons that would meant that the russian sanctions also had to be lifted. so he was freelancing in certain ways that people were nevertheless aware of and that will independently of the whole trump issue posed dangers to the national interests. >> i want all of you to stick around. we have much more to talk about. the president's attorney rudy giuliani has some pretty interesting things to say about all of this. i'll tell you what he says. that's next. my name is jeff sheldon, and i'm the founder of ugmonk. before shipstation it was crazy. it's great when you see a hundred orders come in, a hundred orders come in, but then you realize i've got a hundred orders i have to ship out. shipstation streamlined that wh the order data, the weights of , everything is seamlessly put into shipstation, so when we print the shipping ll e

comey, sally yates and ben rhodes and susan rice? and they were discussing what to do about general flynn. and then susan rice on january 20, it's an email to the record saying, the president said if we're going to investigate him, it has got to be done by the book. well guess what? right after that meeting, that is when sally yates floats the logan act as the flynn violation which is exactly why the agents went to the white house on january 27. this was a frame up from day one. that is what the judge should have asked questions about. >> and lou, can i follow-up about that? this whole thing started with a leak to the "washington post" by columnist, david ignatius. who is really for the democratic party. he does that and then, in that week, the prisoner committed two crimes by telling him about the fact of the conversation with kislyak and then that was michael flynn, which was unmasking and leaking. the person also gave him the tidbit about the logan act. you do not think that ignatius knew that on his own. putting up the logan act

why did you wait till the day of to sell sally yates about the interview?knew that if anything came of the interview, if it advanced our investigation, the attack from the trump administration would be that an obama holdover had engineered it. i had to make the decision separate from her. the only opportunity would be to burn down the entire fbi. to my shock and horror, they've tried to do just that in the face of silence from people in this building. >> what was your reaction to the indictment of his two former associates of michael flynn, turkish lobbying and how much was on your radar? >> i can't say. >> can you say your reaction? >> no, no reaction and i can't tell you when i knew. >> director comey, the fbi's reputation has taken a big hit from last year. do you share any responsibility for that? >> no. the fbi's reputation has taken a big hit because the president of the united states has lied about it constantly. and a whole lot of good people who watch your network believe that nonsense. that's a tragedy. that will be undone eventually but that dama

interests of the american people at heart, the interests of the president at heart, and not people like sally yates who is a traitor who was fired for insubordination. >> sally is not the subject of -- just a second now. sally yates is not the subject of what has come down from this investigation and the southern district. so what i'm saying, you began the program by saying you want the truth. these lists of things, if you want the truth, shouldn't they have to come forward and explain why they lied? that is a fact that the -- not al sharpton, not anyone else, the government is saying they lied. >> and they should be held accountable. i agree with senator rubio about the question of pardoning paul manafort. i don't think it would be wise to use this in this case. i think people should be held accountable for insubordination, for limes, crimes, whether that's sally yates in her insubordination and turn her back to the american government to the dually elected president. i think that the former obama administration officials who unmasked michael flynn should be he would accountable for their possible

. >> sally yates. >> and actually did only a file on the logan act.ere were many people that he apparently hoodwinked. he had his own kind of sort of closet operation involving turkey and an effort perhaps to acquire nuclear weapons that would meant that the russian sanctions also had to be lifted. so he was freelancing in certain ways that people were nevertheless aware of and that will independently of the whole trump issue posed dangers to the national interests. >> i want all of you to stick around. we have much more to talk about. the president's attorney rudy giuliani has some pretty interesting things to say about all of this. i'll tell you what he says. that's next. ♪ -we have the power -to make a difference, right now. we have the power to make sure everyone has clean water. to provide access to education for all. -to rid the world of aids, -once and for all. we have the power. to choose to include. to create clean energy. to raise capital. and be fearless entrepreneurs. to understand different perspectives. we stand behind all our partners w

the interview with michael flynn until the day of -- why did you wait until the day of to tell sally yates about that? >> because i knew if anything came of the interview, the attacks from the trump administration would be that an obama holdover engineered it. i had it to do it separate from her. burning down the entire fbi -- to my shock and horror, they tried to do just that. turkish lobbying, how much of that was on your radar? >> i can't say. >> either one? >> no reaction, and i can't tell you what i knew. the fbi'sr comey, revocation has taken a big hit over the last year. do you share any responsibility? >> no, the fbi's reputation has taken a big hit because the president and his acolytes have lied about it constantly. although bunch of people who watch your network believe that nonsense. that is a tragedy. it will be undone eventually. >> when did you first learn about the steele dossier? >> sometime in september, i think. i think it was september 2016. >> the way the public is seeing the fbi, what the president is saying? >> people who know better, including republican members of

just going back to the sally yates example, sally yates went to the white house and said that the lie to the people were blackmailable. the russians look for any point of entry. this is what intelligence experts i've been speaking to for days have been saying, they look for any point where they can leverage, especially a very powerful person, who is a nominee to become the president and then exploit that. that is exactly what the president gave them. the fact that michael cohen continued to lie about it, lied about it to congress in order to support the president's story and continue this conspiracy just shows how important it was to them to conceal it and the question is why. >> when you say exploit, i mean, i've read a bunch of stuff on this. not my personal area of expertise. a bunch of people talked about -- not as an explicit, we will expose you unless you do "x," but rather you know at all times they have something over you when you're enmeshed in this relationship. >> right. and could that explain the president's desire to not step on vladimir putin's toes constantly? just reme

flynn, because there was a window between the time that sally yates made a point of talking of don mcgahn and michael flynn being fired. >> 18 days trns pierd from the time she ran to the white house to say there is reason to believe that the national security adviser is compromised. and compromised by russia. a geopolitical rival for decades. the notion that that took 18 days to then expand upon and figure out and in the interim a conversation with james comey to see his way to let it go, it's all -- it's more than titillating. it can lead people to believe -- i'm sure mueller is leading to trau the conclusions to get, what was the role of somebody prominent on the campaign to be the ring leader behind the chant of locker up to be told he was compromised and then to be in a collusion investigation. all the. >> collusion and obstruction of justice in one witness. >> dana, maggie, laura. thank you. a lot to watch for. we are watching any filings by mueller. we know it's happening tonight. it's a question of when, whether in this hour or the next coming up next with the cia director told la

flynn, because there was a big window between the time that sally yates made a point of rushing over to the white house to talk to don mcgahn and michael flynn actually being fired. >> in fact, 18 days transpired from the time that she ran to the white house essentially to say there is reason to believe that the national security adviser is compromised and compromised by russia. a geopolitical rival for decades. the notion that that took 18 days to actually then expand upon and figure out and in the interim a conversation with james comey to see his way to let this thing go. it's all -- it's more than titillating. it actually can lead people to believe -- i'm sure mueller is leading to draw these conclusions together. what was the role of somebody prominent on the campaign to be the main ring leader behind the chant "lock her up" to go from that position to then being national security adviser to being told he was compromised and then there to be a collusion investigation. >> collusion and obstruction of justice in one witness. >> yeah. dana, maggie, laura, thanks very much. apprecia

and then we soon learned from sally yates in unbelievably dramatic congressional testimony that just a few days after trump was inaugurated, it was counter intelligence worries about mike flynn that precipitated an incredibly dramatic white house showdown within the first week of the trump administration. then acting attorney general sally yates and another justice official who we believe was probably the head of the national security division at the justice department, that i came to the white house, not even a week into trump being in office, they came to the white house to warn the brand-new trump administration that the highest ranking official in the trump administration was compromised by the russian government. what sally yates brought to the white house in those first few days when trump was in office was just remarkable news. that the new national security adviser had secretly been in contact with the russian government about u.s. sanctions against russia, and he was lying about those contacts publicly, and he appeared to have been lying about those contacts to other senior

. >> once sally yates, the acting attorney general, was actually briefed, she wasn't happy. now, my colleague and i were doing some reporting and spoke to people familiar with that conversation between comey and yates and learned what you said. it was actually jim comey who sent agents over to the white house to interview michael flynn and didn't tell officials in the justice department. his rationale was just what you said, that he wanted to exert some independence. he noted to get past a possible perception that maybe this was a last ditch effort by the obama administration because -- he was going to send agents over and tell sally yates afterwards. she was not very happy about that because she was obviously interested in the investigation and the chief law enforcement officer. one thing that's interesting, too, in full disclosure, i worked for comey and the fbi, and this is something that's a close hold. didn't know at the time. a lot of people there in the fbi didn't know at the time. it was kept a very close hold. as we've been talking to people with this discussion, it

and that is why it's so important and that is why sally yates was so concerned about any kind of improper communications with the russians that could leave him and the administration vulnerable. so, you know, i mean there are lots of layers to this onion and it includes a lot of people. so this has gone on for a very long time. we have to presume that mueller knows a lot. >> greg, president trump keeps tweeting, sending encouraging messages saying he would definitely not testify against the president. and last week the president said he would not rule out a pardon for paul manafort. is this witness tampering? >> it may be. it's certainly that in my experience as a federal prosecutor, it the sort of thing that would cause investigators and prosecutors to at least explore the idea that this is evidence of obstruction or witness tampering. the very public nature it have is not on bizarre and unprecedented, but it also means perhaps it not quite rising to the level of obstruction. typically obstruction consists of activity done secretly, covertly without the -- an attempt to make sure that th

is an odd series of events where michael flynn is known no the white house for a briefing that sally yatesas firing him because he lied to the vice president, mr. pence, and not because he lied to the fbi, and the question is what exactly happened there? for example, did the president know for some period of time that michael flynn had lie nod the fbi. >> well, they waited 18 days to fire him. >> and a not directed that the president knew about it and corrected the record with the fbi, and those are answers that need to be answered. >> as well as is it of course jared kushner and who else because kushner was involved in setting up the meetings in the late transition period with other ambassadors and other heads of state. in fact, mimi rocah, let's talk about the other issues that might come up, because so much was redacted but also michael flynn's lobbying and undeclared lobbying for turkey, and a lot of questions why on election day he published and he did not disclose to the prosecutors initially that turkey and the turkey, government was involved in helping him to publish that column ma

he was fired more than two weeks after then-acting attorney general sally yates told the white house that flynn lied about his communications with the russian ambassador and could be blackmailed by the russians. he will will be sentenced on december 18th in d.c. federal court. back to you. >>> trump lawyer rudolph giuliani is apparently not concerned about michael flynn sharing anything that could implicate the president telling nbc news, quote, they don't have bupkus. he said if flynn had information that could hurt the president, you would know it by now. >> #bupkus. >>> roger stone refusing a request from the top democrat on the senate judiciary committee for documents and an interview in the russia investigation. president trump tweeted monday that stone had, quote, guts for saying he wouldn't testify against the president in the special counsel's russia probe. don't forget what the president said in the past about people who do take the fifth. >> have you seen what's going on in front of congress? fifth amendment, fifth amendment, fifth amendment. horrible. horriblement. >> if y

that's the number of days since sally yates' warning, you've got to get this guy out of your midst. for all of you writing books about this period, what an 18-day period that will go down as, because yates is sitting at her office in justice wondering what damage is being done. >> phil was so right to point out the transition, because it's not just those 18 days, it's the transition period that leads into the first month of the administration. remember, they kicked out governor christie's playbook. >> he was there until he wasn't. >> and steve bannon takes over, mike pence takes over certain positions. flynn on his own really is an island working with president-elect trump. that's where the problems started. that's with a lot of the chaos started in 2017. it started in the winter of 2016 because there was no one really in charge, and someone like flynn based on our report, he was freelancing. >> the lead story was, is the president engaging in obstruction or witness tampering in realtime? >> or both. >> in plain sight or both. so that is part of the expanse of his head as he walks in

and sally yates the acting attorney general.emember after the election, hillary clinton needed a reason why she lost. enter russian collusion. part of that was to find somebody in the administration to frame talking to the russians. they found general flynn. in fact, all of general flynn's conversations with the russian ambassador and everybody else were legal. so why did the f.b.i. approach him? they knew what he said. they knew it was legal. the answer is they wanted to frame him. they succeeded. he did not tell them false information. some of it may have been cause or nuance, he did not lie. indeed the agent who actual 302s are available said he didn't lie. and it's interesting that mueller did not turn over the original 302s to judge sullivan today. he turned over an interview of agent strozk which was done months later by mueller's people. the answer is michael flynn was framed to get donald trump. sally yates, james comey, peter strozk, andrew mccabe all planned it. what you are watching play out in an american courtroom i

. >> that was sally yates' concern, was it not, when she alerted the white house about michael flynn, that he had lied about contacts post-election during the transition, between him and the russian ambassador, michael flynn talking about sanctions. so that lying is a potential form of pressure. >> it is, and that was, if you think about what the fbi was doing at that time, the fbi was trying to protect american national security from foreign threats, from these counterintelligence threats, and they noticed there were different avenues here that the russians potentially had vectors into this campaign. as we mentioned the trump tower meetings, you had michael flynn, sally yates, her hair was on fire, going to the white house saying this is a big deal. problem is, it's the lies. it's the shifting, evolving narrative where suddenly sarah sanders says, well, the president wasn't involved in dictating the statement. his lawyers now say he is. i was thinking over the weekend, looking back on all the shifting narrative, you remember michael caputo, one of the campine people who suddenly reme

. >> sally yates came to the white house with deep concerns about michael flynn. >> as yates later testifiestween how flynn described his calls to the russian ambassador to vice president pence versus the fbi recording of them. >> so what you're saying is that general flynn lied to the vice president? >> that's certainly how it appeared, yes. >> she thought that mike flynn was subject to blackmail because he hadn't told the truth about his meetings with the russians. the russians knew that. >> you don't want your national security adviser compromised with the russians. >> though there's no apparent response from the white house concerning flynn, president trump fires sally yates on january 31st to refusing to defend his immigration. >> "washington post" just posted this, national security adviser michael flynn discussed sanctions with russian envoy before trump took office, despite denials, officials say. >> i don't know about it. i haven't seen it. what report is that? >> on the morning of february 13th the administration publicly supports flynn. >> yes, general flynn does enjoy the full co

and for whatever reason, just notes she was not happy. >> and a reminder to our viewers, sally yatesent to the white house and said michael flynn is lying to the vice president and now that could be a potential liability. the russians could have some leverage over this white house, as a result. evan, as we get this information, these documents from robert mueller's team, we do understand there's a mystery grand jury also convening in washington. >> right. there is a mystery that is before the grand jury. this is a mysterious case. we don't know what it's about. for the last couple of months they have been having these meetings with the judge. it's gone up to appeal. somebody is being asked to provide information we believe to the special counsel. and they are fighting back, and so this is being fought out mind the scenes. they have not disclosed anything about whatever this fight is about. we don't know the substance. we don't know who it is that received what would have been a subpoena, essentially. and so that's been one of the big mysteries. today the reporters went over there, be

that have come out in the recent court proceedings that james comey did not inform his superior, sally yates at the time, that the fbi went in and interviewed michael flynn. he said, well, the reason why i didn't do that was because had i done that, sally yates is an obama holdover, would have been strongly criticized by the president for green lighting an fbi interview of the president's national security adviser, michael flynn. he said, look, i'm probably right about that. and one other point, wolf. i asked him also if he has confidence in the acting attorney general, matt whitaker, and he said no comment, and he walked away. wolf? >> interesting. manu, thank you very much. let's bring in our chief white house correspondent, jim acosta. first of all, any reaction to comey's rather stinging appraisal of the president? >> not yet, wolf. but we should point out, the president has not been bashful about going after jim comey in the past. so i would expect that's going to be happening within the next 24 hours after what we heard from the former fbi director up on capitol hill. but as you know,

sally yates made up this logan act nonsense, which he was not charged with.y has been charged in 100 years with violating the logan act. perhaps they should look at john kerry. the bottom line is this was a frame-up of general flynn to get donald trump. and you know what? it almost worked, except there's was no collusion. mueller knew it when he was appointed. rod rosenstein knew there was no collusion when he appointed him. >> tucker: the lesson is never plead, fight. >> always fight. never give in. >> tucker: don't talk voluntarily.vene >> take the fifth. that's why god made it. >> tucker: jimmy hoffa rule and by the way, i'm for that. joe, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: ken starr was the independent counsel during the clinton administration and recently wrote the u book, "contempt: a memoir of the clinton investigation." he joins us tonight. mr. starr, thank you very much for coming on. >> my pleasure, tucker, thank you. >> tucker: nothing we have seen unearthed by the mueller investigation so far, at least pertaining to american citizens, r

he was fired more than two weeks after former acting attorney general, sally yates, first informed thete house that flynn could be blackmailed by the russians. >> we believe that general flynn was compromised with respect to the russians. to state the obvious, you don't want your national security adviser compromised with the russias. >> reporter: the new court documents just the latest into what three key players in the probe have offered mueller. michael cohen revealed in court last week that he kept trump in the loop about his discussions with russians to build a trump tower in moscow as late as june 2016. at that point, trump was the presumptivive republican nominee for president. this week, mueller's team, in conjunction with the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan, is expected to file a sentencing memo in the cohen case, responding to cohen's request for no prison time. mueller is also expected to reveal friday why investigators believe trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort, lied to them, even after agreeing to cooperate. wolf, of course, there's another prong of this i

where is that investigation into james comey and sally yates and rod rosenstein and everybody else that signed on to those fisa applications? giving judges unverified uncorroborated russian lies not telling the judges that it was directly paid for by the opposition party candidate to spy on an opposition party? today comey testified behind closed doors on capitol hill. his attorneys allegedly ran cover for him and prevented him from answering any tough questions. during a subsequent press conference arrogantly he's br h brushing off any charges that his fisa conduct was wrong, illegal and disgusting. remember he's the guy that signed on to the first warrant in october of 2016. but that means he had to verify it was true. that meant he verified it. that means he kosh bright it. that means he's standing behind it. yet in jan, at trump tower he told donald trump, then president elect it was salacious and unverified. watch this. >> i have total confidence in the fisa process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way by doj and the fbi. i think the no

. >> and sally yates is saying to them, and first of all obama saying to president-elect trump two thingsgoing to be your trouble, and don't hire flynn, because he is trouble in some fashion, and sally yates then going to the the white house saying that you have a problem with michael flynn and 18 days later, they get rid of flynn. so, harry litman, what is the story here, and what is the reason why robert mueller would now say don't give him any jail time after everything that has gone down? >> well, mueller presents a panoramic view in the memoranda sentencing of someone with a serious departure and serious transgression unlike some of the thi things that champ champions are saying, but someone who led an exemplary life of public service, and then in large part for the profit motive paid for by turkey and for that reason, he wanted to engineer the change in russian sanctions. really went awry, but then immediately came back into the fold, you could say, of law and order. came to mueller first which is a huge breakthrough that a prosecutor is always looking for, and that as mueller notes

the other thing is that sally yates, the acting attorney general came in right after they took office and warned them about mike flynn and it took them 18 days to fire him, and so there is a long history here. >> absolutely. the absurdity of mike flynn the know that the white house is rolling outsanction, and he had no know that there which with meddling, and he had to know that nobody's phone call is more interesting to other people than the russian ambassador, and how he thought that he could get away with the russian ambassador given the background in intelligence is staggering. it is suggesting to me that after the election, some of the trump people felt that the rules did not apply to them, and they had a sense of impunity, and now what we are seeing with mike flynn and some of the other offici officials in hot water are people who made terrible decisions in the period of time after the election, because they seem to think that they could get away with it. >> ben rhodes, and our entire team, ken delainian, and carol lee, and chuck rosenberg, and standby, mimi rocah. we will be ba

on the same day sally yates had a second meeting an michael flynn, concerned the man has been compromised who is going to be the national security adviser to the u.s., trump set up a private white house dinner with then fbi director james comey in which comey says trump asked for his loyalty and on the day after trump finally fired michael flynn he ushered administration officials out of the oval office so he could speak to comey alone, according to to james comey, trump told him i hope you can see your way clear to letting flynn go. he's a good guy. i hope you can let this go. as we wait for this filing we're left with some pretty major questions. the first one, why did michael flynn lie about his communication with kislyak, his phone calls, his interactions? what he did itself, calling the russian ambassador on the day that sanctions came in, wasn't some massive infraction. he was, after all, the incoming national security adviser for the new administration, the old administration out the door was imposing sanctions. flynn could have called the russian ambassador to say that while there

that's what sally yates was most concerned about when she talked about the potential logan act matter. even more than the context with disli actio kislyak. >> that's to prevent a private foreign policy and you have obama sanctioning, and dealing by the trump campaign to lift those sanctions with the ambassador. that has to stop. >> i agree, but we don't know what exactly was in the conversation. we know from the plea there were phone calls made by trump transition members to un ambassadors trying to get in. >> that's why i highlight individuals within the campaign and the transition team. we know who does know in that phone call. mueller and his team. that's what mike flynn has been doing. one other aspect that is relevant to mueller and i want to know why it's impressive to you both. the idea of timeliness. they go out of their way to say there is a paragraph on it about how this was probably just an economy of justice type of thing. page five, home an numeral two. timeliness of the assistance. the usefulness is connected to the timeliness. the defendant began providing information n

remember, sally yates, after the fbi interview that doesn't go very well for flynn.ally yates decides it's so important, she has to come over to the white house, basically two days later, she tells don mcgahn, look, there's a problem. your guy is compromised, i'm not the person to decide for you what to do, but this is an issue. he's vulnerable. the russians know this, and by the way, he's lying. mcgahn takes this immediately to donald trump, donald trump is four days into being president, and his instant reaction is, i don't see what the big problem is, and what in the world are these people doing from the obama justice department coming over questioning my -- you know, my heads, my choices of senior advisers? so on both sides there's huge disrupt and at least on the justice side alarm. on the president's side annoyance. >> yeah. >> but they're very worried about this, and now mueller has a lot of cooperation from flynn and he now has no doubt explained to him why it was so important to lie on january 24th and eventually become the shortest serving national security

why did you wait until the day of to tell sally yates about the investigation? >> because i knew if anything came of the interview, if it advanced our investigation, the attack from the trump administration would be an obama holdover, i had to make the decision separate from her, to leave him with his only opportunity to challenge him, would be to burn down the entire fbi. to my shock and horror, they've tried to do just that. >> what was your reaction to the indictment of these two former associates of michael flynn? how much of that was on your radar when you were still director? >> i can't say. >> i can't say. >> can you say your reaction? >> no, no reaction and i can't tell you what i knew. >> the fbi's reputation has taken a big hit over the last year do you share any of the responsibility for that? >> no. they have a big hit, because the president of the united states with his accolades has lied about it constantly and in the face of those lies, a lot of good people that watch your network believe that nonsense. that's a tragedy. that damage has nothing to

i just remember when sally yates was fired.fter she testified to congress that she went -- and she sounded the alarm to the white house. she sounded the alarm to don mcgahn. she said what the vice president, mike pence, was going out there and saying was not true. that there are -- there are nefarious things afoot. one could argue sally yates tried to save them. and yet because the white house has so head strong, because they felt like they knew what they were doing, because this was a band -- many call them crooks. i'm going to keep saying they're crooks, jake. the president's lawyer was sentenced to jail today because -- >> prison. >> to prison. prison. to be clear, to prison. because he did things, according to him, at the direction of the president of the united states. the president is a crook. this is more than problematic. our democracy. this is why people are saying our democracy is at stake. >> and three others, of course, sentenced. at some point, paul manafort, in jail right now because he violated terms of his bail.

she was in the meeting with sally yates when they warned white house counsel don mcgahn that flynn hadd to investigators. a true pleasure. i really do appreciate it, and i want you to know, stipulation here at the top. there are things you should not and cannot discuss. i get it. whenever i get there, brush me aside. there's plenty more for me to discuss. first, at the onset, impressive or not what the special counsel put out today? >> so i think it's what i expected in the sense that i've heard other guests talking about they weren'tredactions. i thought there might actually be an addendum under seal. so i was actually somewhat surprised that we have a document partially public that just has redactions. >> help me understand why because the common sense thought is, well, if this is for his sentencing, that means it's all done. trial's over. he pleaded, so there was no trial. now it's sentencing. you should tell us as much as possible or tell the court at least because you're trying to justify your recommendation. so if it's just about him, why redact anything? >> so it says it's done