with me now is marcus samuelson. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me.th my son and we're ready to go tomorrow. >> that's great. my husband actually did ours last night and was turning it with my son today. you were born in ethiopia and adopted by swedish parents. then you moved to the united states and you talk publicly so often about how important it is to share and celebrate different cultures and how important that's been in your personal and professional life. how does that define what thanksgiving means to you, and what bigger message does it send in these divided times? >> first of all, i love thanksgiving. i think it's an amazing holiday, you know, because it's truly for everyone and we all need a moment to actually give thanks and cook and eat and sit around the dinner table and hopefully enjoy it and laugh a little bit, right? because it's stressful and we just came out of the pandemic and coming out of the pandemic and so on. so it's really tough times out there for a lot of people, for a lot of us. i just feel for mental health and thanksgivi

with me now, award-winning restaurant tour and chef marcus samuelson. us tonight. >> thank you for having me. i just brined the turkey with my son, we are ready to go tomorrow. >> that is great, my husband did ours last night. was turning it with my son today. which is again, something we are all sharing. it is the experience that brings us together. you were born in ethiopia, adopted by swedish parents and then moved to the united states. you talked publicly so often about how important it is to share and celebrate different cultures. how important that has been in your personal and professional life. how does that define what thanksgiving means to you? and what bigger message does it send in these divided times? >> first of all, i love thanksgiving, i think it is an amazing holiday. because it is truly for everyone. we all need at this time a moment to give thanks. cook, and sit around the dinner table. hopefully enjoy and laugh about it. it's stressful, we just came out of the pandemic. we will, it's really tough times for a lot of people. for a lot

uh, the statements of the well-known biathlete samuelson, who was so very active during the time whenons and courts were held in russian. changes yes, for the so-called conspiracy of some kind, uh, with doping in 2014, after sochi, what was there, he wet us from all sides, as soon as he could, she flew to them now. uh, the retropoietin story. eh, some colleague there his biathlon. i understand that somewhere i got caught on this dope, because he said she did not know. in general well, that's enough, therefore, i think that you all know this kind of struggle with window mills. e, we know very well who is in charge of wada, uh, we know very well their attitude towards us and therefore ours, even if there are some statements or some risks. it's just a waste of time and money. this, in general, well , she did repent. she didn't want that. someone somewhere once there someone. i, well you know perfectly well that with lipstick this too. in general somehow hardly could or there with a cream. uh, burns could get blood, and we all remember very well that literally a week before the sober hulk

he must have read -- when i went to nyu 50 years ago, i read samuelson's economic book.ew type of economy in 2022. if oil is down to $75, if canadian oil is down to $49, then you know what happens? the inflation goes away when inflation goes away and oil prices, food prices will come down in three to five months. but the fed has to be smart enough, they have to be smart enough to visualize what happens in the next three to five months if oil stays at $75. you know, that's the bottom line. ashley: bottom line. you know, none of it makes sense, john, does it? all we can do is shake is our head in frustration and hope things to change -- >> we're hurting the industry because they keep raising the interest rates. we're not fixing the problem, we're creating a new problem by destroying the real estate industry. ashley: john, we're going to have to leave it there. believe me, friend, we could go through this all day and drive ourselves nuts. as always, great to see you this morning, john. thank you very much. >> thank you, ashley. ashley: thank you. coming up, former vice pres