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>> margaret satcher, ronald reagan, pope john paul. >> host: any arguments? >> they were the trifecta. >> host: who do you want to add? >> i will add pres. nixon. a genius in foreign policy that probably ever lived, certainly in my lifetime. you will hear this from people who rank higher than me, who are chiefs of state, who would say someone like pres. sadat. he knew the middle east quite well and he knew pres. nixon's interest and knowledge of the middle east but in talking about nixon he said look, i don't know much about asia or latin america, i am not that familiar with europe. i can talk to pres. nixon about anyone who is chief of state of any nation in the world and he knows everything there is to know about it. .. >> have that as a habit. don't do it sitting down, because you're going to get sleepy, and you're going to go to sleep. pace and think for two hours. and if it's foreign policy, that's your interest, continue to memorize every chief of state and what their foreign policy is and should be. and, man, he meant it. and he could do it. and he cou

you served as long as lord palmerston with satcher and major. to make the conservative party more cohesive? i am fascinated by what you think the party and leadership should do. it is pretty chaotic, i quite agree. the conservative party has often been divided. been as always particularly divisive issue. the inner desire to keep the party intact, we are largely agreed on everything but our relations with the european union. they have got to come to some compromise, which may not be possible on a basis that keeps all the present cabinet on board. i personally hope they will be steered by parliamentary arithmetic, moved to a compromise that is pro-business, less damaging to future trade, and slightly more realistic in my biased opinion. tom: where does that parliamentary arithmetic click in, in the calendar of brexit? can they get the calculus right of parliament before the tough decisions on brexit? do they coalesce together, or is it afterwards? kenneth: that is a very good question, as i think there are people in the government trying to put of