captain satorius? >> i would just say, that this is the first i've seen of these pictures. i have been made aware of issues that the gao has found within their report. being an organization that always strives to continually improve, we have a new security rule which i mentioned. we will look at that rule and see if there are things we need to beef up. we as a regulatory body put regulations in place that are risk informed and performance based and we do not typically have a one rule fits all that we leave it to the licensees to. it's their responsibility to take our requirements and put their program into a place and ensure that they're complying with our regulations. now we do provide with rules guidance that will instruct licensees on how they can construct and operate their program in a manner that will comply with our regulatory requirements but we leave it to the licensee to put their program in place to document a written security plan to -- i've had to understand the security zone on some of these pictures to understand completely all the details, but i wanted to pr

satorius, a u.s. naval academy graduate served as the officer in the u.s. navy's nuclear power program and is a nuclear trained submarine officer. thank you for that service, to. final witness this morning is mr. david trimble who served as a director of the natural resources environmental group, u.s. government accountability office. is the primary author o of the o report underlined the threats presented by the security of domestic industrial radiological sources. in his current role at gao mr. trimble provide leadership and oversight on nuclear security and cleanup issues. previously focused on environmental -- if i'm of the causes including control of toxic substances, clean water, clean air issues and management. before joining gao in 2009 he served at the department of state political military affairs bureau responsible for export compliance and enforcement issues. those are the introductions. i'm sure it doesn't do justice but i'm delighted you're here and you're willing to help better informed this committee, and hopefully the senate with the potent

our next witness on this panel satorius, the executive director for operations at the nuclear regulatory commission, and he serves as a chief operating officer overseeing the daily operations of the agency. he was a licensed examiner 25 years ago and then as a reactor inspector and senior project engineer. atorius, a u.s. naval academy graduate, served in the nuclear power program and is a nuclear trained submarine officer. thank you for that service to. our final witness this morning who servesd trimble, as a director of the natural resources and environmental group at the government accountability office. been underlining the threat that has been posed by the industrial radiological sources, and he provides leadership and oversight on nuclear security and cleanup issues. read easily, he has focused on causes, including controlling toxic substances, clean water and air issues, and epa management. prior to joining gao in 2009, he was at the political affairs bureau where he was responsible for export compliance and export issues. those are the introductions. i am sure i do not do justice

satorius' point which is coordination and an area where we can play a special role along with nrc and dhs. reaching out to enforcement can often be very complicated. there are many different layers. you might need in a tribal area. it might be a university campus with its own security police. it could be in an environment where you have local county and state police cell part of what we do collaboratively to go above and beyond the actual rule is to organized daily exercises that involve all components of the community. these exercises really help bring together the different elements of the community that would be involved in response to any kind of incident and so far the cooperation with our colleagues at the department of energy could you conjure terrorism and counter bluff ration we have run well over 100 of these exercises all over the united states and communities. >> how often? see several a year usually but we have found that the feedback from this kind of exercise is extremely positive but if you were to try to regulate that sort of exercise are not sure exactly how you coul

mark satorius please proceed. when he left the navy how many years had usurped? >> five years of active-duty service in 18 years of reserve service. >> okay in 18 years of reserve service so that's 23 years. that is how many years i served. i was a navy mission commander and our job was to track soviet nuclear subs. we did a lot of low-level stuff during the vietnam war including the south china seas. >> yes sir and you often spend time looking for submarines without success. >> we knew we couldn't find them because they were so quiet in the way we found them as you know was through sound. bet very proud of your service there and a retired captain. >> yes sir. >> so i might. my son calls me captain and i always say as you were sailors. captain welcome. >> thank you and good morning chairman carper. i appreciate the opportunity to appear before you today on behalf of the u.s. nuclear regulatory commission or the nrc. radiological source security has been and continues to be a top priority at the nrc. the nrc continues to work with the 37 agreement states and domes