is complicit in saudi war crimes in yemen today i believe that we are aiding saudi arabia in saudi arabia is committing war crimes i mean i believe that was the case under president obama as well i imagine that he was still committing war crimes but i don't think it was at the scale that it is today and i think the president i think of president obama were in office today and he saw a million people who had suffered from cholera and the saudis closing the ports closing the airport not allowing chlorine tablets to get into civilians that he would be outraged then he would put pressure on the saudis the saudis would say over the decades they have been a loyal friend to the u.s. they've helped provide stability in the region make sure the oil keeps flowing providing intel on terrorist groups invest in the u.s. economy and so the u.s. critics people like yourself are ungrateful unappreciative of that relationship well first of all fifteen of the terrorists who attacked us come from saudi arabia is one of the largest export hers of violence and non pluralism to the world there are ties between

saudi arabia, next on great decisions. (enthusiastic music) - [announcer] great decisions is produced by the foreign policy association in association with thomson reuters. funding for great decisions is provided by pricewaterhousecoopers, llp. (soft arabian music) - [narrator] saudi arabia and the us are at odds culturally and ideologically yet for decades, they have been said to enjoy a special relationship based on shared interests. - on 1945, when the late king abdulaziz, the founder of modern saudi arabia met with the late president franklin roosevelt on an american destroyer called the quincy, there was a very strong strategic relationship that developed between the two countries. - there's lots of areas that we have to work together. we had times, have different views and different priorities and we have different values, we understand that but we share a common commitment to a more peaceful region and i think we can work with saudi arabia in order to accomplish that. - the special relationship about the united stat

arabia i'm not see in saudi with i would cite the people of saudi arabia they support. some monday support the monarchy does somewhat the system this is a reality there are difficulties which are economic meanly some difficulties are foreign but the country is stable ruled the country for ok maybe five six years with what with much more challenges but he house to fix the unemployment problem let me just let a serious risk let me let me go to mohammed he had that he could get that if we're rapidly running out of time mohamed let me go to you i would i would i would put forward the following is that all of the problems that saudi arabia is experiencing internally and its foreign policy are all self-inflicted wounds every single one go ahead. well look we're out of the saudi regime basically is. is is is not is putting the lives of people like joe mama threat just man who's defending saudi arabia right now cannot go back to his own country this is the state of affairs in saudi arabia and the so did the united states when they occupied iraq they were infinitely more powerfu

not just in saudi arabia. his career -- in and our friendship goes back more than 25 years -- he served as core -- foreign correspondent in different countries in the region, including algeria, sudan,, kuwait and the and reported on all these developments during that period in the region and became a expert, particularly in islam is an in the region. islamism. , particularly when the prince was the ambassador during that period. he has always been also a allentator on the media in of these languages and many networks aside from the saudi workedt he directed and at, that includes channels like bbc, nbc, dubai tv and many others. our next speaker, also a good isend, kristian ulrichsen the middle east fellow at the baker institute for public policy at rice university and we are also delighted that he chose to make the trip from houston last night to be with us today. kristian is working at the baker institute across disciplines of political science, international relations, international political economy. -- if

so it is good for saudi arabia to do that. >> do think the kingdom of saudi arabia has exaggerated or given too much credit to the hoses. the part of the around saudi competition or is that threat genuine? >> the disease have swept out of their strongholds taken -- by september 2014. by the time he came to power the president was imprisoned temporarily in the government fell the same night that he came to power. clearly the newsies had the line of convenience with the former president who had >> it's gigantic. returned to get involved against the ran into syria he needs to get the consensus and understanding from congress to do such a thing. so, he should know whatever kushner trump promise, they cannot deliver. we need to spend some time about this. how is that the stabilizing, we should speak in one voice so that we will send the wrong message to a leader like, listening to trump and tillerson and assuming there is a difference between them. basically they can look at the measure in saudi arabia because they're the only ones who have a leverage in saudi arabia today. >> i think the

tween saudi arabia. and a warm welcome also goes to show the rosanna's from t w two why she's both a producer and an analyst shani can bring us the israeli perspective on things and she says in its ongoing struggle against iran it's not saudi arabia that israel is looking to. russia. for ok i'd like to begin with you if i might and of course the tensions between iran and saudi arabia go back a very very long way but why is this cold war now heating up why now and there is. a kind of explanation for that i should also say it's not any kind of accord valar what we are seeing at the moment because cold war i think is of wards it's more than that is it really valar is approximately between both of them because you can also see in different parts of the rich in that country on think themselves against each other via you know i think there is two or three. issues help out understanding this for example we have done our trump in america. plays a major role in this confrontation in this live it because last year

radicalism in saudi arabia that was put into the saudi curriculum, the saudi education system, the saudie government. it the government pulled the plug, those clergies dependent on the government, they will go back home and seek their own safety. the reason why so many people, not least in the white house behind you, care about what is happening in saudi arabia is because of the strategically important role the kingdom plays in the region. mohammed bin salman has, if you like, been the director of saudi arabia's military assault on the houthi rebels in yemen and seems to be choreographing a very co—ordinated move, for example encouraging former prime minister hariri to resign in lebanon, getting tough with iran, sending signals to qatar, that qatar's radicalism will not be tolerated any more. is all these different ways in which saudi arabia is flexing its muscle, will be intensified in the coming months and years? it has to succeed. before it could intensify, what about its chance of success? that worries us. as a citizen, i want to stop iranian expansionism, sectarian expansionism but

with reference to employing saudi citizens, will saudi families, saudi society in general, saudi culture except their sons and daughters working and blue-collar jobs? >> yes. economy will change of it. we saudi used to do everything come to work with everything. i wrote a book about that. i told the stories about my generation and my fathers generation. my father was himself, god bless his soul, he was a farmer. he used to make -- in containers. it was kind of a hand job that get you dirty. so saudi is to do everything. it was a first form of the 1973 war, with the price of oil, price of oil doubling. we had huge boom and we made the mistake of importing foreign labels you can find quotation of saudi officials who say at the time this is only temporary. the foreign labor we need them to build everyone eventually go. we became addicted to it and that killed, that did not only take the chops away, they killed the work ethics in it. it killed the work ethics industry now we assume we get to work because we're addicted to. this this is a big task that mohammed bin salman need to work on. it'

is there in saudi arabia and the chief of the emknee group is in saudi arabia. i don't know about others. so that is best way to end the war is for saudi arabia to reach out to all emens. not one side against the other. that is exactly what happened in 1965. >> the next question is from les junka. explain dynamic of the royal family. willits cohesion be threatened when king salman passes away? >> i think there is only one person who probably in-laws the answer to that question. that's the king himself. we have the speculation clearly and every time there is said to be an imminent abdication it hasn't come to pass. one can read whatever one wants into that. a more dramatic push back than anticipated. i guess we don't know in terms of family dynamic. my consent perhaps is that salman has for a long time in the past performed the role of almost like the chief whip of the family. he sort of kept -- he was the instrument in maintaining family discipline. he was not only feared but also respected for that. it looks as if at least to some extent mohammed bin salman is

a sign of things to come as the saudi royal family changes so does saudi arabia and the region is it time to buckle up and brace for impact. saudi arabia and the region i'm joined by my guest. and washington he's a saudi commentator in beirut we have charmaine now one the she is a journalist as well as a middle east geo political analyst and into round we cross the mohammad marandi he is an associate professor at the university of all right. rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much appreciate jamal let me go to you first in washington as we saw this situation play out in lebanon and i don't think it's come down yet will see what the next move is here but looking at what's going on in saudi arabia critics can make the claim that the the lebanon episode was to deflect from what was going on in saudi arabia and vice versa i mean how are they connected or they're just very different things happening at the same time go ahead in washington. to believe the two different things happening in the. saudi arabia house of the just admit that he's going to make

that we have now between saudi arabia and iran the problem for the saudis is hezbollah has just become too big too powerful across the region and now the saudis on the gross thing from a point of weakness not from a point of strength you know they've they've sort of kidnaps the lebanese prime minister we don't know exactly where he is exactly or what he's doing in saudi arabia there is this debacle and now which is a merger between now the international community in france is trying to usher him back to france there's a huge question mark over whether he will come back as a prime minister and do what everyone wants him to do which is to talk to has blood because frankly he's the only one the lebanese the saudis have got who can actually be put into that circle and who will be listened to and who can communicate with has been come out with a deal the million dollar question is to the saudis really wants to negotiate a deal because they had an opportunity and they seem to have lost it i got to run it clear. hariri areas become so popular in the last two weeks more popularly could be ever

it is clear that saudi arabia and the saudi officials have declared war against lebanon and hezbollah however let me tell you this is a war against. the entire lebanon not hezbollah and i want to know and here i would like to address the lebanese the lebanese with absolute veracity and openness and passion. propose also stress. points. i made. the happenings around us. and the state of the car we have been enjoying shears until the said saturday last. month a state and institutions presidency prime ministership stability security financial economic instability. all these benefits of pressures today many of the regions peoples are biting they fold that grave and dire situations they are living we must realize the value and the preciousness of what we enjoy in lebanon and hold on fast to this end contrast so the arabia is calling on them to read when. this troll to demolish all that. site has war against hezbollah saudi arabia is calling on you to read when your own homes will you do that. it is saudi arabia for all the statements and measures made by them are they willing or i the they

in a rush to take power from his father others argue mohamad been so money is on a path to reform saudi arabia but what risks is the crown prince running and kenny meet the many challenges he faces both at home and in the region this is inside story. with. with. their welcome to the program i'm jane dothan the erased in saudi arabia have spurred days of speculation and analysis there was the element of surprise the detentions took place on saturday night and without warning the elements of power most of those arrested men of influence and an element of uncertainty is this about purging corruption or consolidating power the man behind it all drawn prince mohammed bin salma on has been a figure of controversy for months now he's regarded as a progressive leader touting social and economic reforms but critics say m.b.a.'s as he's known is also a power hungry over the course of two years he went from being third in line to the throne to first so what are those arrests all about the detained individual spy on a range of sectors in saudi society eleven princes and several ministers were taken

there's rarely a connection with saudi arabia of course i think it's really more hurtful to saudi arabia than it thinks because in public in the public opinion in the region people recognize israel as an apartheid state that has kept palestinians basically in concentration camps in gaza and the which is treating them as has subhuman and any the close of the relationship gets the more unpopular the saudi regime becomes but i'd like to also point out a couple of other things about what's going on in saudi arabia and why i think that . this is very dangerous for the stability of the regime itself to be erratic behavior is not only with regards to it's sudden arrests of all these influential people and it's not just the war where they're slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people due to disease and starvation although the western media for two years has been saying ten thousand people have been killed they don't want to tell the real numbers but then we see what he did in the tatar and outrageous behavior that the saudis showed towards that heavy people and based they tried to strangle the

what role will the crown prince play in saudi arabia's future. mohammed been known to his friends i'm told as his close allies n.b.s. what can you tell us about him as a as a person is about. well the first thing that striking is is he's very young is thirty two years old. he always worked with his father the current king he was in his administration the current king was the governor before. the. crown prince now and yes and to refer to now what was all this is a person secretary his. boss of the administration so he traveled very much in the shadow of his father his father became king he now into and became. became crown prince well we don't really know a lot of aside from that it's clear he has the financial means in about last year bought a five hundred million dollars yacht so he's doing quite well and. but i mean it's you can't underestimate what kind of a revolution he he started in saudi arabia to. fight back the radical islam to take on the islamic establishment. nick clerics over. women allowed to drive our women allowed into sports stad

saudi state t.v. reported that eleven princes three current and dozens of former ministers have been detained as part of an entire corruption probe only hours after the formation of an investigative committee was announced it's difficult to relate this to corruption since they didn't have enough time to make a prosecution or to make investigations about that if there was something or some information collected previously why did the and with. the case by case in different be this before about the not doing this overnight all these people together which is rather spacious the saudi cabinet overhaul is viewed as a power play by king solomon analysts say it's designed to ensure his son and heir to the throne crown prince mohammed bin solomon consolidates power and does so among their branch of the royal family he's making this public relations stance to get more public support and also a little bit of the way his popularity one of the most high profile figures pushed out is the minister of the national g

and ruling family a new saudi anti corruption committee has overseen the arrest of eleven saudi princes for sitting cabinet ministers and dozens of former ministers the bank accounts of those arrested will be frozen any assets related to the corruption cases will be registered as state property now among those the tane that is prince been best known as a billionaire investor controlling major stakes in twitter twenty first century fox and citi group and previously listed as one of time magazine's one hundred most influential people the most significant internal move involves prince emitted been a doula who was removed from his post as the head of the national. hard now he's the son of the late king of the law and was considered a contender for the throne also out is the minister of economy and planning and they'll be mohammed for he now that this missiles are widely seen as consolidating the power of the crown prince mohammed bin son man also known as and b.s. he was elevated to the position just four months ago this placing an older cousin that i should go name has more call it a surpr

the united nations have condemned saudi arabia's blockade of yemen ass catastrophic and it along with international aid groups is calling on ria to lift its feel prices in yemen have increased more than sixty percent while cooking gas prices have doubled after saudi arabia cut all aid access to the country the u.n. humanitarian affairs spokesman says it's essential that access for aid be restored immediately donald trump has struck a more conciliatory note towards north korea during a visit to seoul u.s. president is on the second stop of his tour of asia and has met with south korea's president in trump said he's still open to negotiations with pyongyang i says it carried out an attack on a t.v. station in kabul which killed two people and injured at least twenty others gunmen stormed the station after an explosion in the capital kabul. outfit catalan president carlos reached him on pro independence parties to unite ahead of a midnight deadline to register for next month's election which the moment speaking to catalonia radio from brussels weighs in f.l. facts post exile there's a to

an economic development in saudi arabia. they won't get their tea without fighting corruption but in the same time to house to beat that are transparent see in an in an article a lot in the washington post i question with that he is becoming president fourteen where he would just go that all the poet around him. wouldn't like that for saudi arabia i would like to see how well you know not what i'm hearing we have elections call me up when saudi arabia starts having elections and i'll be interested and by the way i do not have much near the political parties to what i'm hoping for right ok that may assure me that when i'm watching it with us. today it's we have donald trump treating them as has subhuman and any the close of the relationship yes the more unpopular the saudi regime becomes but i'd like to also point out a couple of other things about what's going on in saudi arabia and why i think that . this is very dangerous for the war where they're slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people due to disease and starvation a

the saudi's back the government.ran has increased its influence in syria as a ally of the assad regime. iran has also increased its presence in lebanon through its shiite ally, hezbollah. this has the israelis very worried. will war b break out again in lebanon? rozanes, theni israelis are worried about a possible war in lebanon. is it likely? is it inevitable? it is the feeling is that not a question of if, a question of when. there also seems to be consensus that now is not the time. israel has always been loud and clear that it will not tolerate any missiles shot from lebanon, from hezbollah to israel. it can endanger the northern part of israel, but also reach the population of tel aviv. we were talking about the middle east as a new game with old cards being reshuffled. there's an understanding that every mistake might lead to war and might lead to -- the repercussions might be very dire. as much as there is very strong talk, there's very much caution when it comes to any operations being made. we need to keep t

reliance on oil and prints matal been a dollar was detained he was the head of saudi's national guard with tabs arrest gives prince mohammed more direct control over the country's gods he ready controls the defense and interior ministries prince mohammed as surprised many by pushing back against saudi arabia's religious elite in two thousand and sixteen took steps to rein in the country's religious police have been back on the streets since june but reportedly less vigorous about their chastising m.p.'s also allowed agenda make celebration of saudi national day in september despite a backlash from religious clerics and two weeks ago said saudi arabia must return to a quote moderate balanced islam that is open to the world and to all religions let's bring in our guests joining us in beirut joseph kitchen a middle east analyst and senior fellow at the king faisal center for research and islamic studies in london and there's craig assistant professor at the defense studies department at king's college london and also in beirut nicholas no editor in chief of mideast wire dot com good to s

saudi television. the un and fifteen aid organizations have called on the coalition to end the blockade and allow the delivery of desperately needed emergency supplies are the ambassador you've been in yemen you've spent time there you know what the situation is like there on the ground. do you foresee the saudis opening up the borders long enough for food aid to get in or do you think yemen is going to be the site of the biggest famine that the world has seen and half a century. well we have the statement by the saudi foreign minister out of eligible error in which he said that the coalition would not impede the movement of humanitarian supplies into yemen there's no doubt that this is an extremely grave extremely serious situation that needs to be result very quickly if we're to avoid the kind of large scale disaster that your correspondent was referring to there needs to be some clarification of communication between the international humanitarian organizations and the saudis to ensure that everyone

all the decisions he makes under any circumstances meanwhile saudi arabia's attorney general says two hundred eight people have been questioned as part of what officials are calling an anti corruption crackdown he says the investigation has uncovered around one hundred billion dollars worth of fraud were all family members officials and prominent business men are among those being held in the luxury hotel in the capital riyadh the syrian army says it's now in control of the eastern city of al bookham all i still find says withdrew the border city was one of the last remaining pockets of territory in syria held by the armed group the u.n. says a saudi led blockade has put yemen on the brink of the world's worst famine in decades with millions at risk of starvation a group say seven million yemenis are facing famine like conditions with a further ten million in desperate need of food humanitarian workers are calling for the opening of all and seaports that were closed after saturday's attempted missile attack. the speaker of council only a sacked parliament and five of the former catala

failure only because while i accept saudi has demolished yemen saudi only got involved with yemen when he was on the gates of add and only one city left to conquer when he went into what i now would not have anything that i have not said anything like what is or is any administration in there without any side story we're going to go he said coming at us with regards to what we shot. thirty seconds no problem what we can expect from a bin said man after reading the very logical steps that he's taken putting morality aside again the logical steps of removing mohammed bin nayef moving mr bin are dollar moving there is only one man that stands in his way now and that is his father king cement now all you have to do left is to ask his father father please can you step aside now and can you give me the throne from king so man's perspective from this arab bride i'm sure nothing would please king solomon more than to have his progeny ruled saudi arabia for many many generations to come so i think that's the next move when will it come it depends on how successful some of these foreign policy m

citizen spent most of his life in saudi arabia and is considered to be a sort of a saudi pawn to put it bluntly so they they pulled mystery over back to saudi arabia in a sort of panic last week a couple of times and basically forced him to resign as lebanese premier that's part of a bigger longer term plan to try and destabilize lebanon to shake tiny lebanon so as to make a point to hezbollah and to the region that there's a new there's a new guy in town a new leader in saudi arabia who's got a new agenda to play out it was a double whammy i mean there was also some talk about mr hariri his connections with some of these leading businessmen who have been arrested so it was a two in one for the saudis feel like you get about the prime minister of lebanon may quitting. blamed around and as but large said they were sowing conflict that is there any connection to iran and has below or is this a smokescreen. now it's smoke and mirrors it's a sort of a theater being played out i mean you know it's very much to the saudis. objective on israel's objective because the meetings between the cr

what it called exposing saudi's role in yemen it also went tired of its way as well to say that saudi arabia was a much valued ally in attempts to stop what it called the iranian destabilization of the region so this is very clearly the pentagon putting its cards on the table making very clear that it fully back saudi arabia in recent events particularly the ongoing war in yemen and of course the massive purge that happened in riyadh over the weekend with dozens of people arrested including several current and former ministers one of the richest men in the world so the pentagon coming out very tightly behind the saudi administration in particular behind the crown prince who has been heading that anti corruption committee set up by his father the king and which led to the massive purge of dozens of people who are for them and we'll leave it there mike thank you very much meanwhile hooty rebels in yemen are warning that sound ian demographically airports are within firing range and could be targeted next. you know what. we call all passengers an airline and not to be at any saudi port a

involvement in the saudi-led war. i could understand that happening in saudi arabia itself where there is no constitution and where the oil monarchy governs according to shahrya law and promotes extremism all around the world but this is america and we have been enabling a brutal war which has driven millions of people to the point of starvation without any declaration of war or explicit legal authorization. the u.n. humanitarian coordinator now says this is the greatest humanitarian crisis since 1945, and hundreds of thousands or millions of people may die if the blockade is not lifted. while we celebrate thanksgiving, mass starvation may have overtaken yemen. yet, the blockade is still very much enforced. we must do everything in our power to speed humanitarian assistance to the civilian population, to work towards a diplomatic solution in yemen, to stop the atrocities on all sides and to bring real peace to the region. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland yields back. the gentleman fro

iran accuse a saudi arabia the u.s. and israel of stoking tension in the region after the sudden resignation of lebanese prime minister saad hariri. and we'll take you to drone on the home of sac catalan leader carlist which from our politics took a backseat to tradition. and the school says. casablanca when their first champions league title in twenty five is better and more later in the program. with. there has been a major shake up in the top ranks of saudi arabia's government and ruling family between saturday night and sunday morning eleven saudi princes four sitting cabinet members and dozens of former ministers were detained the government describes all this is the work of a new anti-corruption committee which itself was only formed on saturday night so among those being held. to law he is best known as a billionaire and bester controlling major stakes and twitter twenty first century fox and citi group the most significant internal move involves prince mittal been adela who was removed from his post as the head

saudi arabia is accused of forcibly detaining lebanese leaders. unify different political groups but is becoming an open battleground for regional proxy . this is inside story. with. hello and welcome to the program i'm laura. it's been a week since lebanon's prime minister saad hariri suddenly resigned during a visit to saudi arabia his actions have set off a chain of events that continue to play out across the region the iranian backed hezbollah movement part of hero is governing coalition says saudi arabia is holding him against his will hezbollah believes by forcing her very to resign saudi arabia has declared war on lebanon the u.s. has joined the u.n. in calling for stability and lebanon warning regional powers against using the country for proxy conflicts we have a lot to get to with our guests but first this report from in beirut. citizens of saudi arabia and its gulf allies visiting or living in lebanon are leaving it's not the first time gulf countries tell their citizens it is not safe to stay lebanon has long been entangled in the saud

the al-jazeera news our live my headquarters here in there are coming up in the next sixty minutes saudi arabia says the lebanese government will be dealt with as one declaring war against riyadh plus. we're trying to see whether we can get our normal access restored and we're hopeful that we will be able to continue our normal operations the u.n. raises other law aid efforts and we haven't suffered due to the blockade by the sound of that coalition. donald trump's hawkish stance towards north korea's nuclear threat in the spotlight as he heads for seoul also. i'm just feeling i'm saving nine lives right now so. yes i think anybody that. think about it it's a dog eat escort service passengers take stray dogs from mexico to new homes four thousand kilometers away. welcome to the news our side eurabia says lebanon will be dealt with as a government that has declared war against it is a major development amid escalating tension in the region between saudi arabia and iran in comments to the state media the saudi minister for gulf affairs referred to the role of iran within lebanon to be. tha

citizen spent most of his life in saudi arabia and is considered to be a sort of a saudi porn to put it bluntly so they've pulled mystery over back to saudi arabia in a sort of panic last week a couple of times basically forced him to resign as lebanese premier as part of a bigger longer term plan to try and destabilize lebanon to shake tire lebanon so as to make a point to hezbollah and to the region that there's a new there's a new guy in town a new leader in saudi arabia who's got a new agenda to play out well as martin mentioned saudi arabia reason happy with the strengthening of hezbollah in lebanon a group sponsored by iran tensions between riyadh and tehran have been rising for a while with mounting concern for the direct confrontation could see breakout. as the explains recently barely a day seems to go by without saudi arabia making headlines and it almost always boils down to it's arch enemy iran it is a game of chess that spans an entire region on every front in every country the saudis see iran's evil influence. the who's the rebels in yemen who saudi arabia has been bomb

else involved. >> he has saudi and lebanese citizenship. >> business interests in saudi arabia, a big company which went sour this year. he needs to be build out, maybe he's expecting for the saudi stability not. he needs to give something in exchange. >> a sequence of events unfolding in saudi and the region. help us understand why he made a series of shock moves precisely at this time. was he trying to fend off something or somebody? >> i think he's preparing to take the throne, or the crown, i think he wants to become the next king very soon. he needs to go against rivals, but he's probably the first truly populist ruler of saudi arabia. somebody who tries to rally the support of the street of citizens against the couple of thousand princes and his family. calling it the shock move, i think that is true. if you want to change something, i think it's the right thing to do. i don't want to justify it, but i think it helps us understand the ways, means, and instruments. >> thank you, daniel. i want to tell you about some of the other stories making news around the world. russian lawma

basically saudi arabia has lost so much in the last five years that for this new saudi prince to come into power he needs to feel as though he's making a statement he needs to send a message to iran but he also is sort of holding out a hand to has a pool of hariri to say country just give us a little bit back to show a little bit humility we lost so much in syria we lost so much in the end and we've made fools of ourselves in that. but let me go to joe does that help politics works in the in the middle east i mean give me something no i don't think it works that way i mean saudi foreign policy is the been nothing less than a catastrophe over the last few years i mean and then going back in and meddling in in lebanon trying to rebalance and whatever that means it's up to the lebanese people to do that what is in your mind what is going on in saudi arabia go ahead joe in washington. i mean obviously it's not them to grab power of the system became very complicated a lot of princes a lot of branches in southern would have family that wants to control and obviously you want to call so the