it get any and will this end dependent international inquiry and make any difference anyway can saudi arabia be held to account this is inside story. on welcome to the program i'm richelle carey showed he was a critic of the saudi crown prince mohammed bin solomon the journalist was killed at the saudi consulate in istanbul almost four months ago now but his body or remains have never been recovered and the murder case remains unsolved turkey's not satisfied with the saudis own investigations and wants a full international investigation but it's got us and the pendent investigation led by the un special rapporteur on extra judicial executions agnes calm are entertainer in turkey for a week long mission she also wants to visit saudi arabia karl marx said on thursday that the three member legal and forensic panel would seek to establish state and individuals responsibilities for the killing i conceive of this and for it to be a necessary step among a number of others toward crucial truth telling about and formal accountability for the gruesome killing of mr. hell marc who had requested informa

this is not just a story of saudi arabia's goals and objectives but the objectives of saudi's allies. the united states government looked quite favorably on the religious export activity that organizations like the muslim world engaged in because in the broad strategic viewpoint of american policymakers during the cold war the more religion you have in the world, the more effective you'll be in combatting the rise of communism. >> exactly. there's less space for communism if there's more religious beliefs, so it would seem in that way as a useful tool against an ideological force. okay, you've given us a good historical picture of what's happened in saudi arabia, the use ever islam by the state or not and the ability to turn the faucet on and off for how much people can use that. as you say there are a number of different groups. just in 2017 the saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman talked about being committed to returning saudi arabia to moderate islam. what did he mean by that? >> i think this very intriguing pronouncement by the crown prince in late 2017 was, in my view, broadly

when it's you know it's blowing kisses in saudi arabia it's protected saudi arabia from the shop she affair to a certain degree by the president saying that it's not clear that the king is involved in ness of course pompei of his message was the people who carried out the murder have to be punished which which. plex a certain amount of pain on the crown prince because it's going to see inside the kingdom it's going to be seen as disloyalty and but on the other hand it is trying to get beyond this relationship there is talk about trying to clean up yemen situation all of these are monsters undertakings unlikely to be resolved anytime soon so the united states has a lot of heavy lifting to do to try to bring unity back to arab ranks because the arab unity is completely fallen apart over the last you know the last seven eight years. majeed tell us about iran's relationship with qatar and how that plays into the into the strategic game play if you like i mean a sense. since maybe the ninety seventy nine there was a clear position by the g.c.c. countries to combat iranian intervention and

store and that you can find on our website carefully assesses the much discussed phenomenon of saudi arabia looking at the impacts of saudi religion then we ordinarily think. the paper also examines how iran taps into traditional shia martyrdom in the practice of establishing itself as a geopolitical hub of resistance culture. meanwhile, since 9/11 and the rise of extremist groups like the islam estate, governments of several prominent muslim majority countries, among the jordan, morocco and egypt have tried to position themselves as purveyor of modern law of these extremist groups. peter also reviewed that citing how it was somehow less fair and have somehow integrated this into their strategies across asia and africa. what they find by examining these wide-ranging cases is that the ways that states use islam in their conduct abroad is often shaped by domestic consideration and by the same token, the impact that these strategies have in target countries is frequently something other than what it might have been intended to be, due to the mediating effect of local actors and interest. this

door, and that you can find on our web site, carefully assesses the much-discussed phenomenon of saudi arabia's export of wahabism, arguing that the nature and effects of saudi influence around the world are more complicated than we ordinarily think. the paper also examines how iran taps into traditional shia discourses of dispossession and martyrdom, in the process of establishing itself as a geopolitical hub of resistance culture. meanwhile, since 9/11, and the rise of extremist groups like the islamic state, governments of several prominent muslim majority country, among them jordan, morocco, egypt, have tried to position themselves as purveyors of moderate islam, capable were blunting the narrative of the extremist groups. peter and shadi dissect that phenomenon carefully dissecting how turkey and indonesia have been exampling of emerging powers that were somewhat less fanfare have integrated religios outreach into their broader soft power strategies across asia and africa. what they find by examining the cases is that the ways that states use islam and their conduct abroad is often shaped

andthen i went to israel that i went to saudi arabia and that i came back to israel. and i want to talk about broader progressions that i had from those conversations. and i would be and dubai, i did see a number of saudi's both official and unofficial saudi's, and what i was in saudi arabia, i was there primarily see an official saudi's. i would start with one general observation. a point that barbara made about ,uestioning where the u.s. is it's something that comes through both in my trips to abu dhabi and dubai and saudi arabia and israel. i would even casted a little bit differently. the questions i got actually really, maybe trump is not an exception, trump seems a lot like obama to us. in terms of not wanting to be in the region, not equating the two, but saying that basically, we wonder what the u.s. really wants to be in the middle east whether what we're seeing now is the new normal. as theust put that out kind of reality that you get when you are in the region. withudi arabia itself, and the saudi's i spoke to both prior to being there and then when i got th

religious groups protested in saudi arabia against that so i believe specially after what's happened also in the eighty's surely i think the saudi arabian government do want to make a change in the sea society they do want to open up a little bit and give women freedom but there are also a great off that reaction of the religious sects prayed that they might create another words he mad like movement you know the my create some sort of religious revolutionary movement even a lot of religious people would be very upset if women became in even very dependent and especially in this society like saudi arabia very tribal very conservative especially in the central part in places like eastern province and the western provinces you know eastern saudi women and what didn't live in the western part of say we've been really you know that's a more open society and they have a lot more privileges and we live in or live in a scene for example. i think i'm i haven't but maybe in this case of might have shaken up the saudi government a little bit but i don't see that. right away they're probably goin

door and that you can find on our website carefully assesses the much discussed phenomenon of saudi arabia's nature and effect of saudi religious influence around the world are more complicated than we ordinary northwest airlines think. the paper also exams how iran traps into shia discourses of dispossession and martyrdom in the process of establishing itself as a geopolitical hub of resistance culture. meanwhile, since 9/11 and the rise of extremist groups like the islamic state, governments of several prominent muslim majority country. among them jordan, moracco and egypt tried to portray-- and looking at extremist groups. and carefully dissecting how turkey and internecia have been examples of emerging powers with somewhat less fanfare have elements of religious outreach into their broader soft power strategies across africa and asia. what they find by the wide ranging case, the way that states use islam abroad is by domestic situations and by the same token the impacts that these strategies have in target countries is frequently something other than what it might have been intended to b

saudi arabia's saudi arabia's position. thank you chris been but i will point out that of course we do not share the view about sales and that's actually one of the strengths i think of why it's important to have the cross party support of this panel and the liberal democrats think that the government has not been strong enough however that's why it's so important for the saudi arabians to engage with us because we have the whole range of the views here and the fact is if they did allow me to go and interview the detainees and seek this evidence it would be well received by britain and other liberal democracies this would not be a seen as any kind of stitch up this is very much a cross party effort and the focus remains on international human rights will regardless of we know what other geopolitical considerations saudi arabia may well be involved in at them and. between from got in as i understand you wrote to the saudi embassy here and you've is it correct you hear nothing in. what we know. we're not for it we're not form

store and that you can find on our website carefully assesses the much discussed phenomenon of saudi arabia's export to wahhabism arguing that the nature and effect of saudi religion effects are more complicated than we ordinarily think. the paper also examines how we have gone to shia discourses in the process of establishing itself as a resistance culture. meanwhile since 9/11 and the rise of extremist groups like the islamic state, governments of several prominent muslim majority countries, among them jordan, morocco and egypt have tried to position themselves as purveyor of moderate islam. peter and shadi also examine that group looking at emerging powers and how some of them have integrated religious out reasons to some of their religious outreach across asia and africa. what they found by examining these wide-ranging cases is the way that states use islam and their conduct abroad is often shaped by domestic considerations. and by the same impact the impact they haven't target countries is frequently something other than what it might have been intended to be. due to local actors. this r

comedian hasan minhaj's show "patriot act" from saudi arabia after officials from the kingdom complainedo the streaming company that it violated saudi cybercrime laws. the censored episode has been viewed more than 1.69 times on youtube where he remains available to viewers in saudi arabia. ththiss a a cl from m e censor episode fromhe show uncle patrioact." >> the conflict in yemen is comple her's e clclifnotes. --en n s falli civilil war sai i arab intervened. but there is somhihing you should kw.w. thinink ese rebe are g gting lp. saudi arabiand the rain hit eachthther. sasaudarabiaiatarted armin-- bombing. now many are sang they're using yen n as aroxyxy w agait a rereed control the w -- to control the war. th i is thconfnfli in yeyen. [applause] that is a global aocity. itit is e woworsof evevething happing in one place a people keeonderingwill thi evernd? y: on wednday, has minhaj twted -- sarah leleah whitson, can you tk about what is happening in yemen as we move into this new year? in today on this day of the new congress, you have had attempts in the senate and the house to sto

saudi arabia for talks with saudi crown prince mohamad and solomon says he will bring up the murder of journalist. earlier he called on gulf nations to unite and in the blockade against qatar. iran's foreign minister has met his counterpart in baghdad and discussed u.s. sanctions against iran and the normalization of relations with syria zimbabwe has more than doubled the price of fuel over night but the move has failed to ease the nationwide petrol and diesel shortage. petrol stations in some cases for several days. at a funeral for a single senior rebel commander an indian administered kashmir as government forces try to block mourners from attending or ship ari has the latest. paying their respects thousands defied barriers and roadblocks to gather in the hometown of rebel commanders in actual islam he was one of the two men killed in a gun battle with government troops late on saturday. was a. zenith a list. almost a pious muslim and one of the greatest fighters what compulsion made zenit to pick up arms these young men are taking up arms because of the ongoing oppression from indi

and saudi arabia will remain. nd part is the financial impact of the scandals, these foreign policy missteps, has capitalt probably the to fund diversification in saudi and growth will again, for a while, have to come from the government. that will take saudi where it has been for the past decade. that means transition to form best to foreign direct investment, a lot of capital funding -- that means transition to foreign direct investment, a lot of capital funding. up, advocating for transformation for women in the gulf. this is bloomberg. ♪ manus: welcome back. pushing for societal transformation and qatar and across the gulf. foundation, her is the public face of an effort to provide women with better education and career opportunities. the royal highness spoke exclusively to bloomberg in london. >> there are plenty of projects coming up one that is very close to my heart,. it is what we call a progressive school. august.open in the idea is to really push the boundaries when we talk about education for young chil

when it's you know it's blowing kisses in saudi arabia it's protected saudi arabia from the pushup shia fair to a certain degree by the president saying that it's not clear that the king is involved in ness of course pompei of his message was the people who carried out the murder have to be punished which would. plex a certain amount of pain on the crown prince because it's going to see inside the kingdom it's going to be seen as disloyalty and but on the other hand it is trying to get beyond this relationship there is talk about trying to clean up yemen situation all of these are monsters undertakings unlikely to be resolved anytime soon so the united states has a lot of heavy lifting to do to try to bring unity back to arab ranks because the arab unity is completely fallen apart over the last you know the last seven eight years. tell us about iran's relationship with qatar and how that plays into the into the strategic game play if you like i mean sense. since maybe the ninety seventy nine there was a clear position by the g.t.c. countries to combat iranian intervention and was what w

the un agreed in turn to canada saudi arabia already faces international scrutiny over the killing of journalist jamal khashoggi in the saudi consulate in istanbul in october that prompted canada to review its arms sales to saudi arabia and. the case has drawn global attention district guardianship laws that require saudi women to get a male guardians permission to travel or escape is said to have inspired other saudi women ralph how mad. mock my god is going to start a revolution in saudi arabia go on social media now and watch the accounts off so many young saudis see you have so nice that we can do this refused to see her father and brother who traveled to bangkok to seek or return in the end it might have been noon savvy use of social media that led her to a new life in canada. two saudi official reportedly told the tire thirty's who sees through passport i wish they'd taken her phone instead john hendren. and here is mike hanna now he's the toronto airport i might plenty of cameras and journalists behind you talk us through what's been happening indeed years has been a massive fo

he's the crown prince of saudi arabia. yeah ok why would he filed and he didn't find that funny this. he's didn't like it the country's communications watchdog brant they've basically forced network netflix to remove this episode in saudi arabia as you can't see it there were news of that got out people around the world were not happy they saw this as censorship and then here's what some people were saying at least on twitter this is the executive director of human rights watch in the middle east she says netflix is claim to support artistic freedom means nothing if it bows to demands of government officials who believe in no freedom for their citizens not artistic not political not comedic even jamal assured she's former editor at the washington post speaking out here she says when he wrote about the need for free expression in the arab world that freedom is not just about journalists it's about freedom for artists comedians activists anyone who wants to express their views on society a few others are taking a more nuance

from deputation this marks a pause in a tense standoff that began on saturday noon arrived from saudi arabia but the top passport seized by a saudi diplomat initially thailand said it would deport because she didn't meet visa requirements. the eighteen year old then barricaded herself in an apple to hotel room she drew attention to her plight on social media quickly gathering tens of thousands of followers she said she feared for her life after her family threatened her for announcing islam and cutting her hair. i'm not leaving my own until i see it you're an h c i i want. the title for it to seem to perform a dramatic about face ben promising not to do. we have how our time come we will talk to her and do whatever she requests then. trouble to seek help and we are the land of smiles but we will not send anyone to that. we want to do that by we will not hear of some human rights. principles under the rules of law that i dare not meet him. thailand is not a signatory to the un refugee convention and provides no legal protection to asylum seekers books the united nations says it will do everyt

something that many saudis have been increasingly doing and that's just not welcome in the new saudi arabia so it's a tension for for many saudis to choose which one to sort of accept and i think that you know there is probably more recognition i think particularly post but also one hopes case that many countries do see saudi arabia as indeed you know clamping down on its own dissidents and so they may be more welcoming to to refugees and that may in fact sort of increase the asylum cases as well ok that's what i want to ask about the number because we're saying eight hundred here that's the number that the u.n.h.c.r. has given us but you know taking that step of seeking asylum is actually a big step and it's not something you can go back from i wonder if you think they could even be higher numbers there those who don't want to to to to step up and step forward. yeah i mean i think the numbers will continue to go up you know certainly there is no relaxation of political thought in the country it seems to be getting more and more i think consolidated in terms of what people are expected to d

talk to me a little bit about the situation for women in saudi arabia. ow people are probably wondering, is rahaf alqunun, is her case, is her plight similar to that of many other saudi women? mona: yes. the only difference about rahaf's plight is we have scene it play out so publicly, which i believe it is the main reason it has saved her, is the entire world was watching and advocating for her. too many cases go anonymously and we have no idea about. and just to give you an idea of the magnitude of what at stake, there are at least 15 feminists in saudi prisons since may, since the de facto ruler, crown prince mohammed bin salman, instigated an unprecedented crackdown on women's rights activists and feminists. and they have not been charged with anything, they have not been put on trial. one of them has been waterboard. we usually associate the word waterboarding with terrorism, and that is just to give you an idea that the saudi regime thinks feminism is terrorism. otr activists have been tortured using electric shocks and flogging and several of them

has come under fire for withdrawing an upside -- episode of the popular, a show "patriot act" in saudi arabiathe saudi crown prince was not amused as a joke about killing of journalists jamal khashoggi. what was it about this joke that has so offended the conference? carl: this is a show hosted by the u.s. comedian hasan minhaj. he loves these political jokes, it is what the show is all about. one of his first episodes focus on saudi arabia, the conference, and his alleged involvement in the killing of khashoggi. we have a clip of that episode. take a look. >> just a few months ago crown prince mohammed bin salman, aka mbs, was hailed as the reformer the arab world needed. but revelations about khashoggi 's killing has shattered that image. it blows my mind into the killing of a washington post journalist for everyone to go, oh, i guess he is really not a reformer. meanwhile is read -- every muslim person was like, yeah, no [beep.] he is the crown press of saudi arabia. carl: apparently they did not find that funny, surprise. they basically forced netflix to take that episode down in saudi ar

there are people in saudi arabia fighting for true reform but m.p.' is not one of them and to those who continue to work with them just know that with every deal you close you were simply hoping entrenched and absolute monarch under the guise of progress because ultimately m.p.'s is not modernizing saudi arabia the only thing is modernizing is saudi dictatorship or the saudi government certainly wasn't laughing because netflix received a complaint alleging the episode violated the kingdom's cyber crime law in the episode has some and has criticized as crown prince mohammed bin son man over the killing of journalists. and the saudi concert that happens in istanbul in the kingdom's cozy relationship with the us was criticized as well as the imprisonment of political activists including female drivers and saudis involvement in the war in yemen now the streaming service depend defended its decisions saying we strongly support artistic freedom worldwide and only remove this episode in saudi arabia after he receives a valid legal request and to comply with

tragedy it was obviously a total and utter disaster for saudi arabia and it would seem that the responsible people who are responsible for the operation were also responsible for the detention of these men women's rights activists in britain is saudi second most important partner for arms sales and security but the murder shows he has put a spotlight on human rights in the kingdom at least ten women are in prison for demanding more rights seven men who will say being detained for supporting them there are credible allegations that these people have been have been tortured the people as crispin blunt said the indicate the evidence suggests that people involved in the murder of a soldier or involved in the in the torture and ill treatment of the of the women in men's men men as well in the in the in in their situation. saudi arabia denies allegations that the detained women are being mistreated the m.p.'s and lawyers have asked for a response by next wednesday to their request to visit the women in jail. gate and be i'll just there. now saudi arabia has calls controversy in the entertainment

very good to have you with us on al-jazeera how damaging is it for saudi arabia that the e.u. commission is even considering putting them on this. you know it's of course important to keep in mind that this is merely a draft it's subject to change but of course the fact that we're even talking about this in the first place bodes poorly for riyadh let's keep in mind that in september the f.a.a. t.f. decided not to give saudi arabia full membership for many of the reasons which are obviously in play here is saudi arabia is going to need to make some changes in order to convince its allies in the west that its leadership is very sincere with all of this talk about countering extremism returning to so-called moderate is a lot there is definitely a war of narratives in which saudi arabia is facing some major problems and you know not just talk of countering extremism but leveling allegations of supporting extremism at all the countries have been leading a blockade against other of a cup they're accusing it of financing terrorism which though has always denied how much more does tha

to try to narrow differences among qatar on one hand saudi arabia bahrain the u.a.e. and egyptian on the other hand by the americans remain quite concerned they are trying to build a new regional allies against what they consider to be a growing iranian influence in the region and they know their chances to tackle that issue in particular along with other issues like instability in syria iraq the war against isis war in yemen they cannot do that unless they have all the countries on board or might want to share is a senior political analyst he joins me now to talk more about this so a lot of what we've heard from the from from my pompei on this middle east force a lot of talk of iran and the need to to present a strong front against them how is that going to play out in qatar which generally has better relations with iran. well clearly the for the united states understood that with the blockade being what it is of qatar by surrounding neighbors that the only pathway out of qatar is through the area in airspace so i think it does clear for the for the throne been in a

entrench an absolute monarch under the guise of progress because ultimately mbs is not modernizing saudi arabiae only thing he's modernizing is saudi dictatorship. >> well, now netflix has blocked that episode from streaming in saudi arabia. it's a decision that has prompted widespread outrage and his colleague at the "washington post" calls the move outrage out. i want to bring in our cnn business reporter from london. what reason did saudi arabia give as to why netflix had to take this down? >> reporter: this episode originally aired in october. it was only in the last few weeks that netflix said it received a legal request from saudi arabia to remove this episode. and netflix wanted to emphasize it was a legal request, it wasn't just a general request for them to remove it. n netflix said they cited article 6 of their anti-crime cyber law. there's a lot in that episode that saudi officials would not be happy about hearing, including where he goes off against mbs. but anotherish s isis isis isis is him talking about how saudi arabia is home and he's pretty much doubting whether saudi arabia b

a glad to have you on the show talked to me a little bit about the the situation for women in saudi arabia i know people are probably wondering is rojas alco nds is is her case is her plight similar to that of many other saudi women. yes right the only difference about rob's plight is that we've seen it play out so publicly which i believe is the main reason that it has saved up in the entire world was watching and advocating for too many cases go anonymously and we have no idea about it just to give you an idea of the magnitude of what's at stake there are at least fifteen feminists in saudi prison since may since the de facto ruler crown prince mohammed bin salmen instigated an unprecedented crackdown on women's rights activists and feminists and they have not been charged with anything they have not been put on trial one of them has been water boarded we usually associate the word waterboarding with terrorism and that's just to give you an idea that the saudi regime thinks that feminism is terrorism and other activists have been tortured using electric shocks and flogging and several of

he's the crown prince of saudi arabia. ok well apparently the saudis didn't think that was very funny and surprise surprise and the country's communications watchdog they basically forced netflix to take that episode down in saudi arabia when news of that got out people were not very happy about it in fact here's some of what people were saying this is the executive director of human rights watch in the middle east and she says that netflix is claim just a court artistic freedom means nothing if it bows to demands of government officials who believe in no freedom for their citizens not artistic not political and not comedic even jamal khashoggi former editor of the washington post speaking out here and she says when jamal khashoggi wrote about the need for free expression in the arab world that freedom is not just about journalists it's about freedom for artists comedians cartoonists musicians anyone who wants to express their views on . others though taking kind of a more nuanced view here one person writes look if they w

italia saudi arabia. essential a change their strategy they used to fight the bombs out now the ships. we knew that this was the best place from which to take photos of the secret operations with no ban on cameras. from here we recorded what actually happened. containers a month were loaded up with one thousand to one thousand five hundred bombs. to get us into. well the parole. fundament i meant that they were mainly transported by saudi arabian ships three or four belonging to the battery shipping company or navi it was a dock and load up the saudis evidently decided to run the transport themselves that this is. the military coalition in yemen needs a lot of bombs by the end of twenty seventeen saudi arabia and its allies had flown more than fifteen thousand air raids according to international experts almost a third of those raids it civilian targets. it's a profitable war even for small investors with shares in germany's biggest arms manufacturer a company that breaks free of german law that manufactu

human rights office says a trial held in saudi arabia into the murder of jamal khashoggi is not enough on thursday saudi media reported eleven suspects have appeared in court for the first time state prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for five of the defendants but no names have been released the u.n. wants an independent investigation with international involvement in mike hanna joins us live now from the u.n. mike so what more has the un's human rights body been saying oh very clearly the un human rights body completely concerned about the situation not being able to ascertain the impartiality all fairness of that trial that began in riyadh this week at continuing to call for some kind of international independent investigation into the murder of jamal khashoggi this is what the spokesperson for the u.n. commission of human rights to say. we are not present in saudi arabia to be able to assess these trials and we can't give an assessment of the trials ourselves we as you know have been pressing for justice in the shoji case for months now. and we've been calling for an investi

ambitious plan joining us now is conservative commentator steve malzberg you are not joining us from saudi arabia my friend but tell us exactly what's going on what was announced today by the saudis well first of all fascinated by your lead in your story about the list that the u.a.e. you put saudi arabia on that will not help this goal and this plan they call it the national industrial development and logistics program and it's all about as you said diversification of the economy the struggling oil economy it's all yo it's energy it's its infrastructure they're going to build airports five new airports is the plan they're going to build new train routes they get. modify existing airports they're going to have advances in their defense industry with new initiatives so they want to just diversify diversify but it's going to take investments so they're looking for foreign mostly foreign investments and internal local investors as well now they have to do this part because the world economic forum for instance just put out their list of one hundred forty countries ranking the economies and saudi ara

the long and arduous journey from saudi arabia over the eighteen year old states through the arrival doors accompanied by the canadian foreign minister the size of the media contingent a reflection of the massive public interest generated a few everyone. now. and hearing green media accounts really want needing to leave this season right at home but she's very moment and they are interviewing and so she would prefer not to question today so you can see the syrian crazy thing. and see if you know when to go. home then run. back through the doors to begin the first phase of the new life the wish to go to college and study architecture the canadian decision to grant sanctuary is likely to worsen already fractured relations with saudi arabia back in august saudi arabia severed diplomatic ties following canadian criticism of the kingdom's human rights policy then in october the murder of jamal khashoggi saw an upsurge in demands for canada to counsel a multibillion arms deal with saudi arabia this deal is now being reviewed. the foreign minister though insists that the protection of human

to push the kingdom to push saudi arabia it is it can't really just be about money. that's part of it we know there were discussions between people around trump with the saudis and with the u.a.e. just before trump took office and just afterwards in terms of i took office around various projects we know that specifically donald trump son in law jerry question or who has sort of been designated the unofficial middle east envoy for the ministration is very close to the saudis including the mahomedan solomon we know that that's one reason why trump has tried to resist his intelligence agencies over the sochi affair and why donald trump has gone so far as to support saudi arabia against its gulf neighbor qatar when the saudis put the blockade on in may of two thousand and seventeen and trump said oh it must be because the qatari support terrorist so all of that is in the mix but i think the main thing here is that donald trump actually knows very little about what is going on within yemen and the fact is is that no one has clean hands here the americans don't have clean h

i want you to know that saudi arabia has not always been as it is now. we saudis deserve better. we can best jamal's life and his work by insisting on our right to speak the truth and by protecting those who speak it. in america and abroad. if we do this in his memory, jamal khashoggi's will injure. -- inder. thank you. [ applause ] >> margo yuen from borders without -- reporters without borders. >>> thank you to all the members of congress that have taken the time to be here to speak and to host this wonderful event. to all of those who makes it so impactful. i'm so impressed that their people standing here because there are not enough seats. everybody has come here to honor jamal today. i am the north american director for reporters without borders. this is a nonprofit organization that defends the freedom of press worldwide. i want to thank you all for taking the time today to protect journalists. with these buttons that we handed out, many of you are wearing, they are not just for this event, not just for this afternoon. since journalists, bloggers and media workers are under

the people tend to personify saudi arabia with mohammad bin salman. we don't want to offend the saudis. the saudis are weakened by this crown prince. he is culpable not just for the murder of jamal khashoggi, but the abduction of a lebanese prime minister and the shake down of business men and one person tortured and killed. these are actions that are far outside the boundary even before jamal was murdered. we were accommodating this irrational actor. if we are a true friend of saudi arabia, we have to hold the country accountable and they have to hold the person that made these decisions accounta e accountable. >> the saudis deny all of those issues and have taken the responsibility and those are the people who are on trial. of course many people believe this could never happen without mbs's direct order. you have been in the room with the terrorist suspects. you were in the room with the saudis who committed 9/11. some of them. some of saudis involved in al qaeda. what should the policy be? the u.s. has a key relationship with saudi arabia, yet this