so can scampton be thinking. so can scampton be safe. me your views barrage at i believe it absolutely must be now at 7:30 in a few minutes time up the road at poly primary school, there was going to be a pansh school, there was going to be a parish council meeting, a couple of hundred of local village residents are expected attend. there is deep concern about these within . the these proposals within. the community. who joins community. one man who joins me before that meeting is councillor roger patterson, conservative councillor for scamps and you of course west lindsey district council which is the relevant authority you're the deputy. and roger from , what the deputy. and roger from, what you told me earlier , this has you told me earlier, this has been an ambition of yours years to do something when they are appued to do something when they are applied first i got involved was 2008 will be said the base was closing we fought to keep the base open and then obviously we couldn't. so it was all about getting until we sort the middle t

so can scampton be thinking. so can scampton be safe. me your views barrage at i believe it absolutely must be now at 7:30 in a few minutes time up the road at poly primary school, there was going to be a pansh school, there was going to be a parish council meeting, a couple of hundred of local village residents are expected attend. there is deep concern about these within . the these proposals within. the community. who joins community. one man who joins me before that meeting is councillor roger patterson, conservative councillor for scamps and you of course west lindsey district council which is the relevant authority you're the deputy. and roger from , what the deputy. and roger from, what you told me earlier , this has you told me earlier, this has been an ambition of yours years to do something when they are appued to do something when they are applied first i got involved was 2008 will be said the base was closing we fought to keep the base open and then obviously we couldn't. so it was all about getting until we sort the middle t

scampton yeah, look, does come. scampton yeah, look, indeed look well. thank you very, very much.lishment from scampton, that military base, that the government is looking to try to introduce this as part of a wider range of measures. and i think at this point it's worth just recapping on some of the things that want to do. they're giving the a of giving the french a load of money to allegedly anyway patrol beaches and try to keep a few asylum seekers france. asylum seekers in france. they're the they're also increasing the border funding on the border force funding on the locations border force as locations of the border force as some french beaches , as some boots on french beaches, as it and also in an airport it were, and also in an airport . it's rwanda scheme looks . it's the rwanda scheme looks to be fingers crossed anyway, taking off there that taking off so there is that tougher laws so no re—entry for people tried enter the people who tried enter the country illegally increased deportation back to rwanda or to their own countries and. this one now which is about accommod

and yes , raaf scampton about.campton where we broadcast live last week where many of you signed the petition at it all to say this simply must not happen now . raaf scampton home of 617 squadron and the home of the famous dambusters raid , a place famous dambusters raid, a place not just of huge british and international historic importance, but somewhere that had a really viable business plan for the future . well, that plan for the future. well, that is going to be turned into a migrant centre along with a former raaf base essex, with another the training base down in east sussex near bexhill and catterick . the prime minister's catterick. the prime minister's constituency has been thrown into the equation , i think to into the equation, i think to say to other mps got nothing to moan about, although we don't yet know what catcher it will be used for. if indeed it ever is. is that perhaps just more spin? so will any of this work? well, let's a look at east sussex. that houses 1200 people on the 22nd of august la

and yes , raaf scampton about.campton where we broadcast live last week where many of you signed the petition at it all to say this simply must not happen now . raaf scampton home of 617 squadron and the home of the famous dambusters raid , a place famous dambusters raid, a place not just of huge british and international historic importance, but somewhere that had a really viable business plan for the future . well, that plan for the future. well, that is going to be turned into a migrant centre along with a former raaf base essex, with another the training base down in east sussex near bexhill and catterick . the prime minister's catterick. the prime minister's constituency has been thrown into the equation , i think to into the equation, i think to say to other mps got nothing to moan about, although we don't yet know what catcher it will be used for. if indeed it ever is. is that perhaps just more spin? so will any of this work? well, let's a look at east sussex. that houses 1200 people on the 22nd of august la

so what do people in the nearby village of scampton think?rnment needs to take some responsibility to say more than just a quick fix about anything they want to keep the runway open. what we're worried about, if they start building, then the runway can't be used and it'll go to pot. so i'm not sure that. that's the right place. is it suitable accommodation? i don't know. what's your reaction? i think that's absolutely wonderful and i can't understand why they haven't done it sooner. the issue of people arriving in the country in small boats across the channel has been discussed in parliament this week and the local mp says he's been lobbying the government about the rumours. raf scampton will be used to house them. obviously i object very strongly. we've worked flat—out for two years to get £300 million worth of investment. but the home secretary has said to me that if the migrants come there, it will be, in her words, "strictly temporary," and she will work with the council and the company to ensure it does not stop the deal. in other words,

to save raaf scampton was over.a petition out there on change.org. it's got 50,000 signatures. i've helped to it. i've done what i can. i went to scampton week. i care about this . i thought maybe it was all over but i'm pleased to say that sarah corsa is , continuing the sarah corsa is, continuing the campaign she's running save our scampton she joins me down the line right now from scampton in lincolnshire . sarah, welcome to lincolnshire. sarah, welcome to the program but tell me, please realistically what can be done . realistically what can be done. oh anything and everything that we can do will be done. we have met lindsey district council trying to put an injunction in and we are reaching out to anyone and everyone that will listen. and if they don't rate making them listen, that, you know , this regeneration . £300 know, this regeneration. £300 million project has got to go ahead. million project has got to go ahead . you know , there's no ahead. you know, there's no other situation that will rest up . basic

to save raaf scampton was over.a petition out there on change.org. it's got 50,000 signatures. i've helped to it. i've done what i can. i went to scampton week. i care about this . i thought maybe it was all over but i'm pleased to say that sarah corsa is , continuing the sarah corsa is, continuing the campaign she's running save our scampton she joins me down the line right now from scampton in lincolnshire . sarah, welcome to lincolnshire. sarah, welcome to the program but tell me, please realistically what can be done . realistically what can be done. oh anything and everything that we can do will be done. we have met lindsey district council trying to put an injunction in and we are reaching out to anyone and everyone that will listen. and if they don't rate making them listen, that, you know , this regeneration . £300 know, this regeneration. £300 million project has got to go ahead. million project has got to go ahead . you know , there's no ahead. you know, there's no other situation that will rest up . basic

terms of scampton, mr.planes the dambusters and the planes the lancasters and so on, and indeed our temporary use of the site to that those heritage assets are in fact enhanced and preserved. we do see this as a short term arrangement . we would short term arrangement. we would like to enter into an agreement , as he knows, with west lindsey district council so they can take possession of the site at a later date then regeneration later date and then regeneration plans be realised in due plans can be realised in due course. so that is literally coming in from the commons now. well, let's live to scampton, our reporter will is our reporter will wallace is there for us so will the government clearly taking a little time and now to actually try to reassure people that they . yeah of course. well this has been big news for the last couple of weeks, including on gb news nigel farage was down here at the dambusters and earlier this week and somebody else who's here quite often , pete, who's here quite often, pete

kevin scampton is asylum claims. kevin scampton is the former raaf base. any , any local opposition any, any local opposition building up to the idea that thousands or hundreds potentially are going to be moved there? yeah, just a bit. the usual the usual people have come out , the usual the usual people have come out, complied. the local has out to complain every excuse under the sun they've tried to use, but realistically, scampton was only just decommissioned . so was only just decommissioned. so a lot of infrastructure is still there. so to bring it out, to stand , it will be relatively stand, it will be relatively cheap and relatively quick as well. so i'm afraid is a very goodidea. well. so i'm afraid is a very good idea . why didn't they done good idea. why didn't they done it before, kevin ? i well, the it before, kevin? i well, the scampton is the red arrows of i. we've just left scampton and such scampton is one that they could use. they have tried it before. they tried it at lynton or nose , but again the, the or nose, but again the, the locals

its history doesn'tjust include the dams raid, which of course 617 squadron was formed at scampton.dams raid was launched and returned from there. but it goes all the way back to the first world war and the royal flying corps. and the plans for scampton have angered the local conservative mp, sir edward lee, who said it was a thoroughly bad idea. in essex, home of raf wethersfield, they're not happy either. we are really disappointed that concerns that we've been raising, and through the local community have been raised, haven't been taken on board, and the home office has decided to proceed with securing accommodation for asylum seekers at wethersfield airbase at real pace and without talking to and engaging with the community. but the immigration minister, robertjenrick, told the commons the sheer number of small boats have overwhelmed the asylum system. he said the government would not elevate the well—being of illegal migrants above the british people and added accommodation for migrants should meet essential living needs and nothing more. with the government having pledged to s

there is a petition to save raaf scampton . it's history, it's scampton.'s legacy , it's future prospects legacy, it's future prospects and above i want future generations to know the amazing sacrifice our made for us all. be free. you got to change .org you can sign the petition yourself in a minute i'm going to be joined on talking points by an absolutely groundbreaking king black footballer, louis blissett of watford fame of england, fame . and i tell you england, fame. and i tell you what, he's a hell of a guy. back with you in a couple of minutes it's time for talking points. yes, that time of the day. and i'm very pleased as i'm joined by luther blissett luther, welcome. my pleasure. to the pro gram. now ms. june, by the way , gram. now ms. june, by the way, i don't believe that he's still fighting in every lose the first generation immigrant to britain. yep what was it like you first came here this ? well, i mean, came here this? well, i mean, when i arrived, that would have been, what, 62? 63? when i arrived, yeah. coming from the caribbean, where

there is a petition to save raaf scampton . it's history, it's scampton.egacy , it's future prospects legacy, it's future prospects and above i want future generations to know the amazing sacrifice our made for us all. be free. you got to change .org you can sign the petition yourself in a minute i'm going to be joined on talking points by an absolutely groundbreaking king black footballer, louis blissett of watford fame of england, fame . and i tell you england, fame. and i tell you what, he's a hell of a guy. back with you in a couple of minutes it's time for talking points. yes, that time of the day. and i'm very pleased as i'm joined by luther blissett luther, welcome. my pleasure. to the pro gram. now ms. june, by the way , gram. now ms. june, by the way, i don't believe that he's still fighting in every lose the first generation immigrant to britain. yep what was it like you first came here this ? well, i mean, came here this? well, i mean, when i arrived, that would have been, what, 62? 63? when i arrived, yeah. coming from the caribbean, where it's

they at scampton airfield, they had given the scampton camp and just one day before the government camehis. we had signed a deal. for £300 million to develop that site , to have to develop that site, to have hotels, businesses , museums and hotels, businesses, museums and everything , lots of jobs into everything, lots of jobs into the area and a lot of money into the area and a lot of money into the area and a lot of money into the area . and that is another the area. and that is another reason why lot of people are so very, very angry. they just not listen to reason the government , there are other places within the county. we've got other airfields that are no longer use that they could be habitable. it doesn't have to be where it is killing us a good trade , good killing us a good trade, good business and in impact. killing us a good trade, good business and in impact . you business and in impact. you know, the lives . so we've know, the lives. so we've covered that quite security and safety we've covered the investment side of it to the finance office of the area. we've also just t

joining me now is scampton councillor , roger patterson. councillor, roger patterson.l massive public anger? what are happening by patrick? yeah disbelief and anger and devastation really at the proposed laws cause one minute we had to deal that this was one of the biggest we've ever had in lincolnshire. with about a thousand jobs, the tories are heritage protected museums. the red arrows continue to fly over scampton and next minute it's been stolen away from us. are these proposals potentially stolen from us bodies, homes or so ? there's anger and disbelief so? there's anger and disbelief at what government is doing. well it seems to be twofold. firstly it's a very, very historic site . one of massive historic site. one of massive cultural importance to great britain. and the idea that it would be used for anything other i think is offensive people actually offensive to people . actually offensive to people. the other side of it, of course, is whether not the area should taking in these asylum seekers. let's with the first one first the historical side of this why in

i'm live from scampton in lincolnshire . i'm scampton in lincolnshire.er raaf base that had been a business plan to do something really exciting . with that piece really exciting. with that piece of land. but now it would appear for the home office wanted to become a migrant detention centre. i'm going to be debating and asking the question and asking tonight. the question can often be saved? can scamps often be saved? because i think the home of the dambusters raid should be saved for future generation . and i for future generation. and i feel very strongly indeed with all of that. let's get the news with polly middlehurst . nigel, with polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening to you.the thank you and good evening to you. the top story tonight on gb news. the dup in northern ireland says it's going to vote against the in this week's first parliamentary vote on the new brexit deal. the prime minister agrees the new windsor framework with the eu last month aiming to resolve some of the concerns unionists have had about the northern ireland pro

i'm live from scampton in lincolnshire . i'm scampton in lincolnshire.hat had been a business plan to do something really exciting . with that piece really exciting. with that piece of land. but now it would appear for the home office wanted to become a migrant detention centre. i'm going to be debating and tonight. the question and asking tonight. the question can scamps often be saved? because think the home of the because i think the home of the dambusters raid should be saved for future generation . and i for future generation. and i feel very strongly indeed with all of that. let's get the news with polly middlehurst

i would have thought scampton fits the bill very well.ys. so i don't see these establishments being there for four or five years. west lindsay district council says it wants an urgent meeting with the government to find out what is going on and what the future does hold for this former raf station. jessica lane, bbc news in lincolnshire. that wasjessica lane reporting. mikejoins us for the mike joins us for the sport. a frustrating light —— night last night. what now for antonio conte and spurs. he night. what now for antonio conte and surs. . , night. what now for antonio conte andsurs. night. what now for antonio conte and surs. .,, . ~' ., and spurs. he was back in the dugout after his recent _ and spurs. he was back in the dugout after his recent gall— and spurs. he was back in the dugout after his recent gall bladder— after his recent gall bladder surgery and there are questions about his future now because his contract runs out at the end of the season, but how much longer will he be therefore because he says he still has a vision a

the day i have scampton in lincolnshire not too terribly far from here.ld war ii, home to 617 squadron. what does that mean ? squadron. what does that mean? it means guy gibson. it means the dambusters raid that took off from that very raaf went above the dams , came back having above the dams, came back having lost about a third of their aircraft and made it is a place of huge historical and cultural significance. it closed down last year as an raf base. it will now be holding centre for young men. the cross the english channelin young men. the cross the english channel in small boats but even told that guy gibson guy gibson v vicki's office is being cleared out make room for all of us it is absolute cultural desecration. it shows the mess we're in as a country far from it becoming a refugee centre, it should be a museum where we honour these incredible people who did what they did . okay who did what they did. okay okay. now joining me is liam halligan our economics and business editor, liam , your take business editor, liam, your take on the budget, pl

of the aviation exploits of the busters and the wartime and cold war work because that station at scamptonombers were and all the rest of it. you were over 30 is in the us navy. i was i was fortunate enough to join in the early eighties during the reagan thatcher. these reagan thatcher. one of these young found itself young kids had found itself flying an aeroplane. two years after the navy hunting after i joined the navy hunting soviet , which was a soviet submarines, which was a pure nato mission , a pure pure nato mission, a pure operational mission . and really operational mission. and really what reagan and thatcher said to the russians, we be on every submarine you have 24 seven and we will kill it if we have to. and that to me was one of the ways we won the cold war, but worked very closely with the raf, flew with the nimrods , and raf, flew with the nimrods, and it was just a fabulous mission for us. so career is 31 years in navy. you obviously loved it must be quite difficult . you must be quite difficult. you come out after all those years and yeah, you got a pension, all the res

of the aviation exploits of the busters and the wartime and cold war work because that station at scampton bombers were and all the rest of it. you were over 30 is in the us navy. i was i was fortunate enough to join in the early eighties during the reagan thatcher. one of these young kids had found itself flying an aeroplane. years flying an aeroplane. two years after joined the navy hunting flying an aeroplane. two years after submarinesiavy hunting flying an aeroplane. two years after submarines ,ivy hunting flying an aeroplane. two years after submarines , which 1ting flying an aeroplane. two years after submarines , which was a soviet submarines, which was a pure nato mission , a pure pure nato mission, a pure operational mission . and really operational mission. and really what reagan and thatcher said to the russians, we be on every submarine you have 24 seven and we will kill it if we have to. and that to me was one of the ways we won the cold war, but worked very closely with the raf, flew with the nimrods , and raf, flew with the nimrods, and it was just a fabulous mission for us

are getting on for 60,000 young men in these hotels and look where i am now i'm at scampton where thet . become a migrant centre that. we're going to do our to stop . we're going to do our to stop. so even if rwanda kicks this summer, we already have on our shores a massive existing problem . and just very finally . problem. and just very finally. nigel, because i know you've got two fantastic shows for prepared it will be great and fantastically well viewed as well because it's such an important. but when it comes to the polling data, not the latest polling data, not good for which to show good for our poll which to show that just 16 one 6% of people strong disagree with the government's illegal migration . government's illegal migration. but you wouldn't know that looking at twitter, would you? how out of touch do you reckon social media is? the life? i tell you what love gary lineker to come to scampton today, to come and knock on doors in the street of this village. i think you'd find out that lineker is podcast pals and his mates at the bbc are , a very small the bbc are, a very

anyway, it's going to be made into refugee, said the dambusters scampton in dambusters base raaf scamptonhern ireland. our reporter dougie beattie has been finding out businesses there want out what businesses there want to let's have a look . most to see. let's have a look. most of enjoy a night out with of us enjoy a night out with fine food and good company, but what are the problems facing those at the coalface? colin me as head of hospital, blarney ulster hospital, as head of hospital, blarney ulster hospital , the industry, ulster hospital, the industry, it really under pressure. you know we have seen huge energy costs, huge food costs , labour costs, huge food costs, labour costs, huge food costs, labour costs going up as as as our staff come under pressure and their own cost of living on the profit margins have disappeared. you we have seen better footfall and better spend than we expected , but we're not making expected, but we're not making any profit . northern ireland has any profit. northern ireland has any profit. northern ireland has a smaller disposable income and with ris

then there's the issue of the dambusters hq scampton with the local planning a legal in junction to stopi junction to stop its use. rishi sunak has stopping the boats by christmas is top political priority and he is right to do so. but he has to start treating the situation the clear and present emergency that it is . present emergency that it is. the invasion of the uk via the channelis the invasion of the uk via the channel is only getting worse . channel is only getting worse. and a softly, softly approach to appease tory wets and the labour border opposition will provide no deterrent effect . we're in no deterrent effect. we're in a cost of lockdown crisis . so to cost of lockdown crisis. so to shell out literally billions, literally billions for economic migrants to spend years on end living for free in luxury hotels where they don't work and are fed and clothed , usually using fed and clothed, usually using our taxpayer . that's not just our taxpayer. that's not just morally repugnant. it's politically toxic, too. so i welcome today's announcement. but only the very start and i sti

then there's the issue of the dambusters hq scampton with the local planning a legal in junction to stopunction to stop its use. rishi sunak has stopping the boats by christmas is top political priority and he is right to do so. but he has to start treating the situation the clear and present emergency that it is . present emergency that it is. the invasion of the uk via the channelis the invasion of the uk via the channel is only getting worse . channel is only getting worse. and a softly, softly approach to appease tory wets and the labour border opposition will provide no deterrent effect . we're in no deterrent effect. we're in a cost of lockdown crisis . so to cost of lockdown crisis. so to shell out literally billions, literally billions for economic migrants to spend years on end living for free in luxury hotels where they don't work and are fed and clothed , usually using fed and clothed, usually using our taxpayer . that's not just our taxpayer. that's not just morally repugnant. it's politically toxic, too. so i welcome today's announcement. but only the very start and i still

well, here's what folk who live near raaf scampton, that's in lincolnshire have to say about the planslocation . there's it's the location. there's absolutely nothing to it. don't 1500 people out in the country. a 20 minute walk along abbey road. a 20 minute walk along abbey road . a no footpaths interlink road. a no footpaths interlink skirts and there's nothing anywhere within about three or four mile for them to do. i'm just disgusted . absolutely just disgusted. absolutely disgusted. it does not make sense to anybody . everybody sense to anybody. everybody involved is going to lose out. even the asylum seekers, i do feel a tremendous sympathy for the immigrants. i think that they. the immigrants. i think that they . it's a the immigrants. i think that they. it's a rough deal to be treated like animals and crushed into very cramped accommodation . and i understand some of it will be actually trailers put along the runway . and to me, along the runway. and to me, that's totally inhuman. some opinions there. anna riley, our reporter, has gone to one of these bases, catterick garrison

an open letter saying it's an absolute aberration that most historic airfield in the uk all raf, scamptonw from. now to be set to be converted into . a migrant. converted into. a migrant. a migrant camp. basically we have a huge problem with asylum hotels so rather spend them being on hotels . let's lump them being on hotels. let's lump them onto an old airbase . similar onto an old airbase. similar thing was proposed at linton on news last year. i went up to lanzarote news and spoke to locals, a village of 150 people, 40 which were children, was 40 of which were children, was about be dumped with 1500 about to be dumped with 1500 military men who were military age men who were allowed to wander around the village no quarantine, no village with. no quarantine, no restrictions on their movements , and the locals were absolute horrified at the prospect. rightly and it just goes to show you that the political resistance to rwanda to suella braverman plans is all fair and well. but what are we going to do about this if we're moving them to historic air bases, we can't afford the hotels. nobod

yet i have scampton in lincolnshire which actually has this is part of the issue.scheme, but it has been used as a museum commemorating the achievements of the unit until recently and it was getting actually a lot of funding to build it into something like a proper, proper. so dambusters museum, what we're doing now in the studio by military history and chris newton chris, good morning to you.thank newton chris, good morning to you. thank you forjoining us. you. thank you for joining us. can you start by telling us about the historical significance of this raaf base? yes it was. well there was a first world flying corps station in 19 that was set up in 1916. it was then reopened to re—establish it in 1936 and then in the second world war, what is most known for is the base of the dambusters unit. so squadron x , squadron 617 and this was x, squadron 617 and this was a unit that conducted raids . in unit that conducted raids. in may 1943 using the bouncing bombs to destroy the mona and to breach the mona. and the idea dams in that raid. breach the mona. and the idea