schaffner. i don't know many very places in new york, including now, central park, where they are putting up a pop-up surge capacity capacity with tents. this is how people -- in these intensely populated areas, live. new york, new jersey, philadelphia and pennsylvania, you've got these urban centers . dallas, texas, is one that they are looking at now. new orleans, i've mentioned. anywhere where you have a crush of people. i know here we live very vertically on the east coast, but that social distancing, it doesn't seem everybody is getting the message about that. i hear urgency in your voice, dr. schaffner. >> dr. schaffner: well, there is clearly urgency. and i'm a little bit surprised that people are not getting the word about social distancing. i know it's very real here in nashville. we are under a mayor's order. but i was talking to someone in a rural community in tennessee, just this weekend, and they were telling me that in that small town the restaurants are closed, the streets are emp

linda peered schaffner. i will have dr. schaffner. . schaffner jump in here. guest: when laypeople talk about droplets, they talk about people sneezing and it is gross. but when scientists talk about droplet transmission, they are talking about it just the way you mentioned, just being within three to six feet of someone. if i had the virus and i am just talking to you, i exhale. microscopically, there are what we call droplets. you can't see them, they are in the air surrounding the virus. if you are within three to six feet of me, i exhale with the virus and you inhale. you inhale part of what i breezed out in the virus will go into your lungs and begin to infect you. spacing within three to six feet, usually in a more prolonged fashion, not just passing you by on the sidewalk, but in a room, this virus can be transmitted very readily. and all of the surfaces, it is well and good to disinfect those , i don't think you have to worry about your pet very much. the virus on the surface is not going to jump off of that surface and bite you. the way it gets to you

go ahead. >> caller: hello, doctors schaffner. my question is in regards to the theodore roosevelt ship, 25 cases. and i notice some ongoing tests at the moment to find out if -- to fine some antibodies i. i wander if i would be good to release the nave where men into the hospitals and chat is your take on that, just to help out and see maybe expedite the process of finding the antibodies. they're soldiers and i'm sure they would love to accommodate and help the country out. that's my question. >> guest: so, ron, think what you have reverence to is a -- reference to is a line of research that might provide treatment with coronavirus infection, particularly severe treatment. here's the wait it works. when we get infected, our body responds and creates proteins that that circulate in the blood that actually work against the virus. and the virus is eliminated from our bodies and we recover. but those proteins continue, and they will protect us in the future if we get reexposed to the virus. so that's interesting. we could take some o

schaffner, what's your advice for her? >> very similar, and it's time for facetime rather than face-to-face. we don't want to spread the virus and we don't want to acquire the virus, and the way to do that is not to be in groups, not to b in face-to-face communication with our friends. >> and all we can do is hopen. they lis i want to go to another question now. you to respond to this first. from bill christianson, who isbo asking a different segment of the population and what we know about coronavirus and covid 19. this is bill christianson from williamsberg, virginia. >> i understand children who are uposed to covid 19 areh less likely to have a serious illness. i'd like the know if lar populations of children perhaps in italy or china have been tested to determine iftheyave been exposed and, if they have, in fact, become carriers of the disease. >> dr. schaffner, what do we know when it comes to children and cov wid 19? l, we're learning much more about children. children cabecome infected, they don't get the serious di

schaffner, ing to ask you to respond to this first. from bill christianson, who is asking about a different segment of the population and what we know about coronavirus and covid 19. williamsberg, virginia.on from >> i understand children who are exposed to covid 19 are much less likely to have serious illness. i'd like the know if large poaplations of children pe in italy or china have been tested to determine ifthey have been exposed and, if they have, in fact, become carriers of the disease. >> dr. schaffner, what do we 1ow when it comes to children and cov >> well, we're learning much more about children. children ca in becofected, they don't get the seriouse dise they may get a milder illness or have no illness at all -- but it's becoming apparent they are good transmitters of the virus as with ieyfluenza, so an distribute it amongst themselves persons who may, indeed, have these chronic underlying conditions or, beca age, be more vulnerable. >> doctor, does that mean children will not get severely ill from the virus? >> actually,

schaffner has close ties to the cdc, so i said is that black and white? like don't go to these things? >> he said, look, if your granddaughter's getting married and you want to go to her wedding, go to the church but maybe stay a little bit off to the side. don't hug and kiss people, but if you don't need to go to the movies, don't go to the movies. if you don't need to go to a religious service over the weekend, don't go. he said stay home and be reverent at home. brooke. >> all right, elizabeth cohen, thank you. i want to start with that last point here, with me now dr dr. sanjay gupta our cnn medical correspondent dr. robing gersho. brilliance to my right. i'm going to pick your brains, talking to dr. schaffner last hour when he said that to me, i'm curious your thoughts on if you're older than 60, like don't go to the movies. don't go to a concert. would you -- >> it's certainly very prudent and this is the first i'm hearing it. i'm not entirely surprised but it does seem a little extreme because we have a bad 60% of the u.s. population with at least

the pandemic in the united states let's look at the medical science about what's going on william schaffner is professor of preventative medicine at vanderbilt university in the u.s. city of nashville welcome professor as part of his announcement that the president said that $500000.00 additional coronavirus testing kids will be available early next week $500000.00 is that credible. i don't know if it's credible but it sure would be welcome because we need to do much more testing now it's one thing to have the testing kits it's another thing to have places on the ground where the patients can be evaluated and the specials attained to send to the laboratory and that's that other part that's still in many parts of the country including in my own community is not working very well yet so if you say this is going to be welcome or obviously what if you made of the way the u.s. or thors is have dealt with this pandemic so far. well we get good starts good reports and things that we obviously could have done better early on we contain the virus very very well the travel ban with china was very hel

schaffner, thank you so much for being with me at such an important. i am sure we'll be speaking again, probably often. thank you for the advice and, please, stay healthy. >> hang in there, chris. >> all right. so that's the medical side of it. that's the big headline. how is this playing in california? we have the mayor of los angeles, mayor garcetti. he is going to join us right after the break. remember, he did this for los angeles. he put an end date on it, though. april 13th or 17th. i forget. i don't have time to read it. but i am going to have time to talk to him about it and he is going to give us the answer and what he makes of this much bigger move. the first of its kind in the country. all of california ordered, stay at home. 40 million people. next. big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated... ...with an increased

schaffner? >> actually, ari, it's paradoxical. we're finding more cases because we're looking harder. the harder you look, the more you find. this means that testing is actually getting out there and we're beginning to define how widely distributed this virus is across the country. are there hot spots, or is it rather uniformly distributed across the country? i hope we keep finding more cases, because that will get us closer to what the reality is. >> dr. schaffner, my thanks to you. dr. mark, please stay with me. we have other experts joining us. i want to dig a little deeper into what's happening with the congress, planning to vote on this aid package, multi billion dollar price tag, a series of packages over a month. politico reporting it could cost more than those huge and controversial bank bailouts of 2008. are there positives? the dow already gaining 2,000 points, the largest one-day gain since october 2008. what goes down sometimes comes back up. all of this after a week of wild fluctuations. we wanted to show you here the

schaffner: i think it as o ththe problelems in ththe field. now,w, it is possisible to get a freeee test through the state publicic health laboratories,s,t you have to have a p provider there toto see the patient, gett the specimemen, and send it offo the laboratory that is where the problem occurs. there arare many people in this country who do not have a regular doctor. phil: are there lessons that the united states can learn from china or, indeed,d, europope ins fifight? dr. schaffner:r: welell, for su. we have reinforced the nototion that travel b ban's may work, en though my public heah collegee mate looook askancece--public hh colllleagues may look askancncet that. widespread testing -- don'n't be so narrow. spread it out. be enthusiastic about testing. that is lesson we can learn. phil: good talking to you. thank you so much f for joining us, professor wililliam schaffnr from vanderbilt university. the number of people killed by coronavirus is past 5000. governments around the world are working to halt schools, that he large gatherings,

i think that there was us vice president mike pence speaking there let's cross now to dr william schaffner he is a professor of preventative medicine at vanderbilt university medical center in the state of tennessee in nashville dr it's good to see you again so we've got u.s. vice president white tents he's leading the white house coronavirus task force a lot of people around the world i have been perplexed by that how do you feel you as a medical professional how do you feel about a politician with no medical training heading this task force. well brant i think the good news is that he has surrounded himself with absolutely solid professional persons from the c.d.c. and from the national institutes of health so i think he's getting very very solid advice tends to have told the american public that the risks to the average american from the virus remains low do you agree with them. yes i do i do agree with that but you have to be careful to not just walk on the sunny side of the street we still don't know the exact extent of the corona virus across the united states because we haven't been

william schaffner, good information, sir. thank you so much for the insight. >> my pleasure. >> trace: while the markets plunging again today as concern around the world grows over the coronavirus pandemic. you can see there the dow down 1800-plus points. it's been down below a couple of thousand a couple of times. a live report from the new york stock exchange straight ahead. ♪ ♪ am at newday usa is helping more veterans refinance than ever. the newday va streamline refi is the reason why. it lets you shortcut the loan process and refinance with no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. one call can save you $2000 every year. call my team at newday usa right now. dhtd=ñ6z jy4hoúm# i was told to begin my aspirin regimen, blem. and i just didn't listen. until i almost lost my life. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. listen to the doctor. take it seriously. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole

schaffner schaffner, would you agree? >> yes, i certainly agree.don't know how much there is out there but these quarantine issues and the travel bans, i think, really bought us some time. we'll see if we can benefit from that. >> all right. thank you, all, very much. and you can learn more about the coronavirus, sanjay's podcast coronavirus fact versus fiction. and next, the national guard moving into a community outside of new york city. health officials tracing dozens of cases back to one lawyer. >> took off like fire through dry grass. >> and a stunning cnn investigation tonight. u.s. workers, without proper gear, assisted people who were evacuated from the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in china. wait until you see where they went after working in the quarantine zone. got the office birthday blues? break the cycle with a gift from edible. give our fruit flowers bouquet, with fresh strawberries and pineapple daisies, for just $29.99. ...make office birthdays fruitful. make every day edible. extra life. extra power. extra life. extra powe

william schaffner, i so appreciate you. that you think very much. >> my pleasure. >>> let's get an update now speaking of, lets get an update on the cruise ship that is still waiting to get those test results that were dropped in. dan sigh nmon is live in san francisco where that ship was supposed to dock. they're waiting for these results from 45 people aboard the grand princess, what's the story now? >> reporter: these results we were told were going to come out sometime this morning. now it looks like it's going to be sometime this evening. plus they're going to do more testing on board. originally they said 100 passengers would be tested. they did 45 yesterday. i guess they're going to do the rest today. for these passengers, this is a really frustrating experience. identify be i've been getting a lot of texts from them. they're anxious and worried. they don't know how long they're going to remain on this ship. there's really no path forward at this point. it appears that they're just waiting to see what the results are

start filing in so we can get your comments for doctor schaffner. i want to show you interviewers, doctor fauci talking about vaccination, development and trials and have you respond to it. >> one of the most important things is one that i mentioned several times from this podium, to clarify the timeline of the vaccines and will that have any impact on the rebound of what we call cycling of the season. certainly, a vaccine will not help us now, next month, the month after but we went into phase 1 trial. i keep referring to one vaccine. there is more than one. there are a couple of handfuls it vaccines at different stages of development but they are all following the same course and the course is you first go into a phase i trial and you have very few people, 45 people in a certain age group, all healthy, none at any great risk of getting infected. you want to make sure it is safe. next thing you do, that takes 3 months, even more, that will bring us to the beginning and middle of the summer. then you go to a phase 2 trial, put a lot of people in the

schaffner in that you prepare for the worst, hope for the best.what happened in washington state, california. i think it would be -- you'd have to believe that this has got to be spreading more widely and as we've talked about, i think the context is always important. that's going to be the alarming thing. and as we hear the number comes back from this increased testing, we're suddenly going to have a significant jump in the number of people who are confirmed as positive in this country. that's going to be alarming to people. but keep in mind the majority of those people may not -- they may not be that sick or have even really thought to have gotten tested in the first place. i hope people keep that in mind. just because this testing has been of such interest to people from vice president pence, he's saying any american can be tested for the coronavirus. no restrictions whatsoever. so even people who have no symptoms. if there's some cause for concern. i wouldn't suggest everyone just go out and start getting tested but if there's some cause for c

william schaffner. he's an infectious disease specialist and cdc adviser.esk is filled with all the latest information about what we just learned about california. this is the first governor to do something like this, statewide stay at home. not marshall law. he said people don't need law enforcement to tell them to do this. he did say it was open ended. he did say 16 or 17 different areas of essential services had been identified to keep the state going. he did say that you can go out in the executive order, you can get your food, your medicine, your necessities but to keep social distancing when you do the same. you celebrate this because you say it is -- you agree with the idea that it's wrong headed to see these types of measures as proof of defeat that the virus is getting us. this is the best weapon against us. now you get to why we want to mitigate the number of cases other than common sense, less is better. our hospitals are going to be over capacity pretty much everywhere this hits. the question is why, doctor? why doesn't the richest country in th

william schaffner, an adviser also for the cdc.ion, doctor, to shut down a school is an extraordinary one. talk to me about the pros and cons. >> well, katy, you're exactly right. it is a difficult decision. on the one hand are the infectious disease issues. could the children be the big victors of the coronavirus and spread it to the community and bring it home? oh, sometimes the teachers and administrators and other supportive staff of the school are so sick that you have to close it. but on the other hand, you have particularly in inner city schools, underprivileged children who get two, sometimes three square meals a day in those schools. it's a safe environment for those kids. if they are let home, they may be home alone. that's not a good thing for young children. >> and children that get their meals there. that's a did portion of our population, kids whose parents can't afford meals and they go to school to get, at the very least, the free lunch. what is the bar for a decision to be made at that level? >> it's all made at a

schaffner, it's spring break time across this country. right now who are wondering whether or not they should take that trip? >> i would say think about it very carefully. how essential is that trip? who is taking the trip? are you an older person? if you have an underlying illness, such as diabetes, heart disease, lung disease, maybe it's time to think about that twice. younger people who have more of a risk tolerance and who, if they get infected, won't get as seriously ill, for the most part, well, maybe they can take the trip. so it's, who is traveling, and how important this venture is that you're about to undertake. >> dr. william schaffner of vanderbilt university, professor of medicine there, we appreciate your insights this morning. sure we'll be talking again. thanks so much. >> thanks, willie. >>> ahead this morning, we'll preview today's six democratic primaries. bernie sanders is hoping to win in michigan today, but polls show joe biden now in the lead. >>> plus, the former vice president has new backing from the leading demo

schaffner, and dr. manny alvarez. thank you. and thanks to all of you for watching. i'm harris. you "the daily briefing." >> dana: new york governor andrew cuomo wrapping a news conference just a few moments ago. cuomo is saying more than 1200 people in new york have died but the infection rate is slowing. he's also warning folks outside of the area, no american is immune. watch. >> anyone who says this situation is a new york city situation only is in a state of denial. >> dana: that after president trump adjusts his message, extending his restriction on social distancing through the end of april and as the country's top infectious disease expert warns, millions of americans could get the virus and 100-200000 could die. hello everyone, i'm dana perino and this is the daily briefing. the president telling fox news this morning that the worst thing the u.s. could do is relax restrictions too early. and all of a sudden, the virus comes back. the president says he hopes to get some businesses back up and running by easter, just two weeks from now but meantime, cdc is telling folks

william schaffner, an infectious disease expert at vanderbilt said tonight about testing. here it is. >> we have some hot spots. we have some warm spots, and we have some other spots such as national that's warming up. i'm sure that this virus is just about everywhere, but how dense it is, how widespread it is, we don't know yet. we haven't tested sufficiently. if we could test a lot more, we would have a much better idea of how distributed this virus is. >> is that right? are there hot spots that could be popping up that we don't know about? >> yeah, that sounds spot-on to me. the truth is if we were on top of testing, and we'd been on top of testing from the very beginning, we would be able to figure out where the virus is traveling. i mean, best practice would mean that we are even testing people who are asymptomatic, who have a high chance of transmitting to other people, particularly people like health care workers, or people who are working in places like nursing homes where it can be transmitted very quickly to other people, places like, you know, correctional facil

>> there is bright political scientists named adam schaffner who did a study on this called the cooperativeongressional election study. a survey put together by uw and harvard that involves 50,000. their suspicion is that 7%, i've seen other numbers of 8% of bernie sanders primary voters supporters in 2016 turn around and voted for donald trump and the general election. let's look at the three states. in wisconsin bernie sanders had 56568,000 votes in the primary. donald trump won the state by 22. michigan 185,000 in the primary, 72% of that, donald trump won by 11,000. in pennsylvania, 720,000 votes for bernie sanders, 50,000 at 7% of that. donald trump won the state by 44,000. you can make the argument that donald trump is winning in a margin of the states that came from people voting for bernie sanders. it might have been trade, and might of been that he was the outsider. it might've been that they just did not like hillary clinton and could have been a deliberate decision of i am on the far left of the democratic party and i would rather have donald trump there, because after him it wil

william schaffner, professor at vanderbilt, and we should note an adviser to the cdc. what in your view is the most important thing americans need to understand tonight? >> we need to understand that we still don't have our arms around defining this outbreak as it exists across the country. we obviously have some hot spots, some warm spot, and other spots that are warming up. but we haven't defined that very well across the country, and the virus doesn't know the calendar. it's going to tell us what we need to do. and it certainly sounds as though a two-week stay-at-home policy is not going to be long enough to suppress the curve sufficiently. >> you refer to the calendar, doctor. we are dealing with a day where we have these terrible numbers, over 1100 death toll in the united states, and we also have the other toll from the reaction and the precaution of the virus, the highest unemployment figures ever recorded by the labor department of american history. when you mention the count, i want to play for you jerome powell, the fed chair, talking about his view what the

then brian schaffner, a political scientist, showed that when trump is downplaying it, republicans stopdemocrats keep doing it. but then when trump begins talking about a national emergency, they care. so if you create a situation where republicans do not take this seriously and stop socially distancing, the virus doesn't care who you voted for. the virus doesn't care what side of the divide you're on. people will die, and many of them will be his people. it's a shocking, shocking display of irresponsibility and short-term thinking. >> and, ezra, we see the president concerned with nothing but the economics of this. but i don't see any comprehension on the part of the president or really many other people in washington about what these economics are. i mean i started referring to this as comparable to 1929 weeks ago when people were still referring to, you know, the recession of 2008 or the stock market drop of 1987. i thought this looked like the great crash of 1929 and the possible great depression of the 1930s then. i don't think washington understands that you cannot create stimulus

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william schaffner from vanderbilt university out to, to answer your questions. >> what is the risk fore us to contract this >> how can i avoid it? >> avoid people who are coughing and sneezing at the present time lots of good handwashing the people at greatest risk of coronavirus infection are people who are older. >> flu-like symptoms >> well, it's certainly flu-like symptoms and the whole spectrum of illness from very severe to much less severe, we're now only appreciating older persons, people with underlying illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and lung disease, they're more likely to get pneumonia and the more serious coronavirus infections >> is it airborne? >> it can be transmitted through close contact. if i have the virus and i breathe it out and we are standing this close and you breathe it in, you can get sick. >> do i get the masks? >> the masks really don't help you very much at all >> what percentage of people now are dying from the coronavirus >> the data from china would indicate it's about 2% of people but most of us think that's too high coronavirus probably can