international relations of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy and director of the school of political analyticsniversity, before introducing my new guest, i obviously have to say what we have with voting we asked you the following question on youtube when ukraine becomes a member of the european union there are three answers as usual soon it will take a little time and 27% believe that your option will soon be 58%, well it will take a little time your option is 15%, 200 people voted thank you and join the vote and now we are being watched on a separate youtube channel for the program sweet during the war with 10 six people also join us there is still enough time for more than 20 minutes to discuss a very an important topic and i am ready to introduce my next guest , this is ivan preobrazhensky, candidate of political sciences - an expert in central and eastern europe is putin the russians for a holy war and beyond? here i am not even talking about a holy war against ukrainian nazism, as putin often says, but against ukraine itself, which according to him should not have been because i am here t

relations department of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy and director of the school of political analyticsuniversity, mr. maksym. thank you very much for agreeing to join my program today. glory to ukraine, we are playing. glory to mr. yury. i missed you very much. i haven't visited you for a long time. now i'm directly on the air from the department. unfortunately , there is no light in the building, but the mobile internet saves us . i hope that it will go well. i am also very i hope, mr. maksym, the first question is how would you answer this question that i asked the viewers on youtube, anyway, uh , when ukraine becomes a member of the european union soon, it will take a little time or your option, i think it can be sooner than me i even thought, i'll explain why. and during the last week, i gave an interview to an austrian journalist to the largest radio broadcaster in austria on the state radio. and from her i heard certain things about messi, one and the other - we had a closed event, but with german experts this saturday, where i heard from yet of a journalist who works for noah, a