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and that is if there's a critic of scientology, you can't be critical of scientology. if you are, you must be some kind of suppressive person, and therefore it is fair game to go after that person with everything you've got --. >> right. >> no holds barred. you can lie, you can cheat, you can steal, no matter what. so it's not the belief system that should be upsetting to people, it's the abuses --. >> it's the execution of the, you know, we are going to deal with people in this particular way. there are physical abuses alleged. >> yeah, it's the abuses inside the church, human rights abuses towards children. >> physical abuses, human rights abuses, towards children. and then, of course, there's the question of whether people are paying money that is ultimately going to enrich individuals in the church as opposed to money being given to the church that then is being used to do good works, right? that's at the center of the irs question. >> right. and, of course, that and -- i mean, there are a lot of churches that do that. look at jimmy swaggart. >> right, right. >> bu
and that is if there's a critic of scientology, you can't be critical of scientology. if you are, you must be some kind of suppressive person, and therefore it is fair game to go after that person with everything you've got --. >> right. >> no holds barred. you can lie, you can cheat, you can steal, no matter what. so it's not the belief system that should be upsetting to people, it's the abuses --. >> it's the execution of the, you know, we are going to deal with people in...
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you can see a lot of what was then his book which preceded scientology and also his many scientology books parenthetically he holds the guinness book of world records for the number of titles published, more than a thousand books. so you can see the precursors of the philosophy and science fiction. the book which was a huge "new york times" bestseller list was anyway a model for others post-world war ii self-help works that came along afterwards. and the red dianetics clubs all over the country. it was like a hula loop which is kind of contemporary with that. there is a big deal and he wrote it in like six weeks. he quoted studies that never occurred. in the scientific community, look at it with kind of amused all. was like psychological folk art. for a lot of people it was a revelation. you could have therapy. all you need is a friend who would help you get through these traumas and get rid of the emotional assets attached to them. and then you are clear. it took the country by storm. it was an international phenomenon. >> host: how many scientologists are there? >> guest: well, dep
you can see a lot of what was then his book which preceded scientology and also his many scientology books parenthetically he holds the guinness book of world records for the number of titles published, more than a thousand books. so you can see the precursors of the philosophy and science fiction. the book which was a huge "new york times" bestseller list was anyway a model for others post-world war ii self-help works that came along afterwards. and the red dianetics clubs all over...
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and scientology took off. and the numbers are not out there totally. but scientology has large members. and their lives are pretty much constrained constrained. you can take courses, and you can leave and you may be followed by phone calls and you can leave that. and then there is celebrity scientologist and that is a different category. typically your image has been exploited as a scientologist, you are expected to go to workshops and endorse the religion religion. for a person in the public eye like let's say john travolta it would be difficult for him if he changed his mind to walk away from the church. in the therapy sessions which are in some respects is like a real therapy sessions there are confessions made and sometimes they are video taped without the knowledge of the person being audited. i talked to one former scientology and there was thought travolta was going to leave and his job was to assem assemble all of the damaging things he said that would be used against him if he decided to leave the church. that is a strong reason not to go. it
and scientology took off. and the numbers are not out there totally. but scientology has large members. and their lives are pretty much constrained constrained. you can take courses, and you can leave and you may be followed by phone calls and you can leave that. and then there is celebrity scientologist and that is a different category. typically your image has been exploited as a scientologist, you are expected to go to workshops and endorse the religion religion. for a person in the public...
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she had a lawsuit against church of scientology. this is what happened. she brought a legitimate harassments busted against the church of scientology. the church of scientology used texas is anti-slapp statute to cripple her case. in cases where they can meet this higher burden of proving that she has a legitimate case, the judge agreed with her. her case has been on appeal for over a year and a half now. just the basic elements of building her factual case. not only would you have that burden but the case could have been removed. it would have given the church of scientology the right to remove that case to federal court. because of the overturning of our federal court. yes it is shifting the burden. that is the point to get at to say you shouldn't strengthen a constitutional right for some by violating the constitutional rights of others. there's statute is unconstitutional. a great code. -- great". -- a great quote. to prevent litigants from using the judicial process filing frivolous lawsuits. the constitutional conundrum that the slap statute creates
she had a lawsuit against church of scientology. this is what happened. she brought a legitimate harassments busted against the church of scientology. the church of scientology used texas is anti-slapp statute to cripple her case. in cases where they can meet this higher burden of proving that she has a legitimate case, the judge agreed with her. her case has been on appeal for over a year and a half now. just the basic elements of building her factual case. not only would you have that burden...
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now, it seems like no one is talking to him about scientology. why? probably choosing more selectively where he goes. he probably puts down ground rules. he might not be on a morning show that features harder news. he leans more to the entertainment oriented shows. they put him on a lot of covers of magazines. they are trying to be more select youth. betty: i was told that john stewart had him on and got criticized for not asking about scientology. like john travolta to a lesser extent. it has been an issue for their image and how they protect themselves in hollywood. how well they can carry a film globally. it is more than issue in the .s. than outside of the u.s. that is where some of the big money for these domes are being made. betty: paul sweeney, our u.s. -- on tom cruise and mission impossible. we will be back. ♪ ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...) man snoring (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) woman snoring take the roar out of snore. yet an
now, it seems like no one is talking to him about scientology. why? probably choosing more selectively where he goes. he probably puts down ground rules. he might not be on a morning show that features harder news. he leans more to the entertainment oriented shows. they put him on a lot of covers of magazines. they are trying to be more select youth. betty: i was told that john stewart had him on and got criticized for not asking about scientology. like john travolta to a lesser extent. it has...
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a new dispute involving the hollywood superstar, his daughter and the church of scientology. it's mondays, july 6th. captions paid for by abc, inc. an. >> from abc news this is "world news now." with t.j. holmes and reena ninan. >> good morning, everyone. good to see you. what a game. i decided to give the kids a bath was like the first 15 minutes of the game okay, i was livid when i came and it was four goals by the 16th minute, there were four goals. >> you missed it for bathtime? let the kids stay funky for just a few minutes and catch the game. >> i wish the women had told us this was going to happen. 16 minutes in i thought, wait, did i miss the timing of the game? was this last 16 minutes left? >> it was real. >> let me tell you, carli lloyd, you know her dees are only going to skyrocket. >> her agent was popping champaign three minutes in. >> she could sell me depends this morning and i would buy them. anything she sells, i don't need i would buy. she is a rock star. >> something a little inappropriate of all products. we're going to start with team usa. they are once
a new dispute involving the hollywood superstar, his daughter and the church of scientology. it's mondays, july 6th. captions paid for by abc, inc. an. >> from abc news this is "world news now." with t.j. holmes and reena ninan. >> good morning, everyone. good to see you. what a game. i decided to give the kids a bath was like the first 15 minutes of the game okay, i was livid when i came and it was four goals by the 16th minute, there were four goals. >> you missed...
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she bought a lawsuit against the church of scientology. if you are a legal geek like me you look at what happened this is what happened. she brought she brought a very legitimate harassment lawsuit against the church of scientology. she was never a member or so she could bring a a lawsuit. the church has used texas is anti- slap statute to cripple your case. even in cases where she could meet this burden this much higher burden of proving that she has legitimate case the judge agree with her and ruled against the church of scientology. her case has been on appeal for over a year. she never had she never had a chance of discovery the basic element of building or factual case. if the speak free act was law not only would she have the burden but her case could have been removed in federal court and likely would have been because it would have given the church of scientology the right to remove that case to federal court where i'm sure her appeal process would be even longer than the state of texas just because of judicial vacancies and overbu
she bought a lawsuit against the church of scientology. if you are a legal geek like me you look at what happened this is what happened. she brought she brought a very legitimate harassment lawsuit against the church of scientology. she was never a member or so she could bring a a lawsuit. the church has used texas is anti- slap statute to cripple your case. even in cases where she could meet this burden this much higher burden of proving that she has legitimate case the judge agree with her...
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. >>> plus, why tom cruise may be saying so long to scientology. >>> and right after the break, the longp comes to an end in chicago this weekend. >>> it's a little muggy on the weather terrace but we have showers we're tracking. and right now, they're across prince william county and western fairfax, fredrick and montgomery. back with more and the weekend forecast when we return. why are we watching this again? i pay for all these channels, so i make myself watch them all. joey, i'll watch anything except this. except this. go back, go back, go back, go back, go back, go back. fios custom tv lets you pay for the types of channels you want, not the ones you don't. 100% fiber optics is here. get out of the past. get fios. now for $79.99 a month. go online or call. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800.974.6006 tty/v >>> trending now and possibly for the last time, the grateful dead. >> yeah, they'll be performing their final three shows in chicago this weekend beginning tonight. ♪ got the to reasons why i cried ♪ >> 70,000 deadheads will be rocking out at soldier
. >>> plus, why tom cruise may be saying so long to scientology. >>> and right after the break, the longp comes to an end in chicago this weekend. >>> it's a little muggy on the weather terrace but we have showers we're tracking. and right now, they're across prince william county and western fairfax, fredrick and montgomery. back with more and the weekend forecast when we return. why are we watching this again? i pay for all these channels, so i make myself watch...
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. >> the words scientology after tom cruise is considering leaving the church. >> big surprise to a lofts after phonecall with his daughter surrey. cruz often video chapped and realizes he is missing out on all of her big milestones. sources close to cruise say they want her raised in the church however he and his ex-wife, katie holmes, are not in the church of scientology. >> it is official, ashton kutcher and mila kunis are married. tied the knot. two met while playing love interest on that 70s show. she revealed first re kill was with kutcher on the show, add that she is marrying her movie star crush. >> jurassic world inches past the competition, to claim the top spot at the box office once again. it is the fourth straight week the dinosaur flick has knit number one. jurassic world took in $30.9 million. disney pick star inside out was very close second with $30.1 million. terminator genesis ranked third about 28 million. this is day due weekend magic mike xxl and ted two rounded out the top five. little something for everyone there. >> more to come this summer certainly looking forw
. >> the words scientology after tom cruise is considering leaving the church. >> big surprise to a lofts after phonecall with his daughter surrey. cruz often video chapped and realizes he is missing out on all of her big milestones. sources close to cruise say they want her raised in the church however he and his ex-wife, katie holmes, are not in the church of scientology. >> it is official, ashton kutcher and mila kunis are married. tied the knot. two met while playing love...
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sources close say scientology officials want suri raised in the church but she and tom cruise ex-wifeatie holmes are not scientologists. >>> still ahead object "eyewitness news" it is a time of the year when students forget what they have learned what some parents can do to stop the summer slide our health reporter stephanie stahl has that information for you next. why are we watching this again? i pay for all these channels, so i make myself watch them all. joey, i'll watch anything except this. except this. go back, go back, go back, go back, go back, go back. fios custom tv lets you pay for the types of channels you want, not the ones you don't. 100% fiber optics is here. get out of the past. get fios. now for $79.99 a month. go online or call. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800.974.6006 tty/v on the healthwatch it is call the summer slide students experience some learning loss but when they are in the in school. health reporter stephanie stahl has more on the problem and some simple solutions summer fun for most students means a break from schoolwork bu
sources close say scientology officials want suri raised in the church but she and tom cruise ex-wifeatie holmes are not scientologists. >>> still ahead object "eyewitness news" it is a time of the year when students forget what they have learned what some parents can do to stop the summer slide our health reporter stephanie stahl has that information for you next. why are we watching this again? i pay for all these channels, so i make myself watch them all. joey, i'll watch...
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his latest film is "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief."
his latest film is "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief."
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. >> he is a grand po pa of scientology. >> i'm going outside. >> i'm going to crawl into an actual dogse. >> a place you have spent many hours in your life. >> i'm's not going in the dog house. >> come on. >> all right good. while that is occurring, we're prepping for that, let's go outside and see where it is still foggy because this is the fog house in lancaster. >> lame, lame segway. >> only a little over a mile visibility, still very foggy. things are improving every where else. we are seeing sunshine today and that will be the order of the day. a few cloud here and there but look at it we have already reached 80 degrees in philadelphia and it is only 9:13 in the morning. 80 degrees in the city. allentown is at 78 degrees, we're close to 80 in wedding with 79. eighty in wilmington. eighty-one in millville where we did have some fog but obviously the sunnies doing it job and we are close to 80 in atlantic city ape wildwood. we are expecting a switch to a sea breeze sometime this a afternoon for the shore so that will cool things off a little bit there. here is your seven day forecas
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scientology, he is like the head dude. you know? >> plus after the oprah interview, he was so in love. >> on the couch. >> yes, and yet we learned later it was orchestrated allegedly, you know, by the church leaders. >> this one for me, maybe wouldn't have come in at number four, american idol judge, superstar jennifer lopez, and mark anthony. 2011 they told the public that they've decided to end their marriage, it was a difficult decision. they also said it was ample yet painful. i think this was more after shock for the latin community because, you know, mark anthony is basically their you know, george clooney. and i think that jennifer lopez is their jennifer lopez right? so when these two came together, you know uni vision i mean, they were talking about this for months and months. >> i saw them on stage together for president obama's first inauguration back in january of 09. they seem so into it, then two years later they broke up. >> and then like the latin thing, had the beautiful babies all of that. this is who i would say w
scientology, he is like the head dude. you know? >> plus after the oprah interview, he was so in love. >> on the couch. >> yes, and yet we learned later it was orchestrated allegedly, you know, by the church leaders. >> this one for me, maybe wouldn't have come in at number four, american idol judge, superstar jennifer lopez, and mark anthony. 2011 they told the public that they've decided to end their marriage, it was a difficult decision. they also said it was ample...
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. >> well, she's opening up about her decision to leave the church, talking about the church of scientologyeft was out of fear, causing vibe between her and her daughter some day the actor called all consuming says it has to be your everything. >> do i have a feeling tom cruise might be stepping away from that shall as well? he is kind of the most ardened scientologist still, right? >> yes, the most popular. >> and travolta has been involved with it, so many stars. how about spike lee, will direct amazon's first movie. how would you say the name of this? >> shyrack? >> will focus on violence in chicago's inner city, samuel l. jackson wesley snipes jennifer hudson, nick cannon have signed on for this project, e commerce giant intends for studios to produce 12 films a year, that's ambitious. scott will not beheading to the jersey shore this weekend. >> he canceled that appearance in atlantic city, the reality tv star was supposed to host pool after dark in harrah's, second night club appearance. he has nixed since breaking one long time love, courtney kardashian. rumor has it friends have bee
. >> well, she's opening up about her decision to leave the church, talking about the church of scientologyeft was out of fear, causing vibe between her and her daughter some day the actor called all consuming says it has to be your everything. >> do i have a feeling tom cruise might be stepping away from that shall as well? he is kind of the most ardened scientologist still, right? >> yes, the most popular. >> and travolta has been involved with it, so many stars. how...
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. >> it is like reporting on scientology. am i gonna get sued?bly for that. >> probably. >> the problem is like you said. he can just say things with impunity. because the normal rules. very difficult to cover him because he doesn't care about being fact checked and will just brush it off if you say well you are incorrect. >> which makes jeb bush's debate prep john. i mean i feel like it is a fool's errand. because if he returns any volleys with facts donald trump is prone to saying you're just wrong. >> quixotic or quick sand maybe. >> i really think it is a challenge for jeb bush. and one thing hi might try to do is point out that if donald trump actually wants to control the border ushyou are not going to be able to do that without a comprehensive reform bill. and -- more possibility of illegal immigrants coming across the border. >> i see what you are doing and it is a logical argument. >> i know. >> and we'll see if that works. >> in the debate maybe you should just say you know what donald? you're fired. >> there you go. thank you you guys.
. >> it is like reporting on scientology. am i gonna get sued?bly for that. >> probably. >> the problem is like you said. he can just say things with impunity. because the normal rules. very difficult to cover him because he doesn't care about being fact checked and will just brush it off if you say well you are incorrect. >> which makes jeb bush's debate prep john. i mean i feel like it is a fool's errand. because if he returns any volleys with facts donald trump is...
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. >>> now to leah remini and her break with scientology and the fashion standouts from the espy's. starting with leah she made major headlines when he left the church of scientology. now in the middle of her reality show leah is finally explaining why. >> i decided i didn't want to raise my daughter in the church, because from what i experienced and what i saw, was that the church becomes everything. it becomes your mother, your father, your everything. you are dependent on the church. >> the church of scientology responded to "people" magazine and saying leah is a, quote, a self-absorbed person who continues to rewrite history. >>> to the eye catching looks from the espy's awards. everyone talking about caitlyn jenner and how amazing she looks. let's check out seahawks quarterback russell wilson and his singer girlfriend in matching outfits. you might have read about them. >> beautiful. >> they're abstaining until marriage. a lot of people were split on peyton manning jacket. somebody said it looked like his grandmother's couch. >> i like that. >> that's marquette king dressed lik
. >>> now to leah remini and her break with scientology and the fashion standouts from the espy's. starting with leah she made major headlines when he left the church of scientology. now in the middle of her reality show leah is finally explaining why. >> i decided i didn't want to raise my daughter in the church, because from what i experienced and what i saw, was that the church becomes everything. it becomes your mother, your father, your everything. you are dependent on the...
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there is a woman if you remember she bought a lawsuit against the church of scientology and if you areek like me this is what happened she brought a very legitimate lawsuit against the church of scientology. she was under a member of the church into the church of scientology has used the statute to cripple the case. so even in the cases where she could meet the burden of proving the legitimate case he goes on the church of scientology in her case has been on the appeal for over a year now. she's never had a chance of the discovery. that's the basic elements of building the factual case. not only would she have that burden but it could have been removed and the federal court because it would have given the church of scientology the rights to remove the case to federal court where i'm sure the process would be even longer than the state of texas because of the judicial vacancies so i think when you think about it yes it is shifting the burden and that is the point we get out when we say you shouldn't strengthen the constitutional rights of some by violating the constitutional rights of o
there is a woman if you remember she bought a lawsuit against the church of scientology and if you areek like me this is what happened she brought a very legitimate lawsuit against the church of scientology. she was under a member of the church into the church of scientology has used the statute to cripple the case. so even in the cases where she could meet the burden of proving the legitimate case he goes on the church of scientology in her case has been on the appeal for over a year now....
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. >> we're starting with leah she made major headlines when he left the church of scientology. the church because from what i experienced and what i saw was that the church becomes everything. it becomes your mother your father your everything. you are dependent on the church. >> the church of scientology responded to "people" magazine and saying leah is a self-absorbed person who continues to rewrite history. >>> to the eye catching looks from the espy's awards. everyone talking about caitlyn jenner and how amazing she looks. let's check out russell wilson and his singer girlfriend in matching outfits. >> beautiful. >> they're abstaining until marriage. a lot of people were split on peyton manning jacket. somebody said it looked like his grandmother's couch. >> i like that. >> that's marquette king dressed like superman. i saw a different picture of him and he was wearing another superman outfit meaning he owns multiples. can you imagine? >> he's going to different phone booths. >> i think he thought he was going to comic-con. last but not least kathie lee and hoeda. and she s
. >> we're starting with leah she made major headlines when he left the church of scientology. the church because from what i experienced and what i saw was that the church becomes everything. it becomes your mother your father your everything. you are dependent on the church. >> the church of scientology responded to "people" magazine and saying leah is a self-absorbed person who continues to rewrite history. >>> to the eye catching looks from the espy's awards....
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you mentioned in texas the church of scientology and then filing an anti- slap motion and having it really tied up at the appellate level of discovery. it is my understanding that with the speak free act that there is actually language in the bill as well that if you are the defendant and you frivolously file an anti- slap motion that you would still be forced to pay some sort of fee or restitution. >> that is what i was going to get at. does allow the judge to impose that. now i see what you are saying. would saying. would you adopt the fact that the losing party pays. and it does exist in the speak react and i do not think -- it is not that it is always going to be a full attorney's fees or that it will be in every case but it does create that right which is extremely valuable more so as a deterrent and simply saying the case will be accelerated and kicked out more quickly. >> i think this is a good point. is it enough to deter true slappers or true people who are abusing the court system. the problem system. the problem is it stirs the david but not the goliath. the goliath has the mone
you mentioned in texas the church of scientology and then filing an anti- slap motion and having it really tied up at the appellate level of discovery. it is my understanding that with the speak free act that there is actually language in the bill as well that if you are the defendant and you frivolously file an anti- slap motion that you would still be forced to pay some sort of fee or restitution. >> that is what i was going to get at. does allow the judge to impose that. now i see what...
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it's a serious topic talking about leaving the church of scientology.>> my first emotion is sad. it makes me sad to hear that from a group that i was in most of my life and that i supported. so my first instinct is to be hurt. but then you know i have to -- i mean i understand it i guess, they have to say these things. but i can only be me. i have to tell my story. it's hard to do a reality show and not be real because then i would get attacked for not talking about it, not showing what we're really going through so i mean i really do pride our show on being authentic and not written. >> not an easy topic. >> not easy to reveal everything of yr real life. but that's what our show is about and also just to add, i think it's an interesting place to come from being that this is an organization that says we don't comment on our former parishioners and yet here we are. >> right. and you've said -- you've decided to leave the show. we'll show a clip. your choice was about your daughter and you're around the table with other folk friends who also were in the c
it's a serious topic talking about leaving the church of scientology.>> my first emotion is sad. it makes me sad to hear that from a group that i was in most of my life and that i supported. so my first instinct is to be hurt. but then you know i have to -- i mean i understand it i guess, they have to say these things. but i can only be me. i have to tell my story. it's hard to do a reality show and not be real because then i would get attacked for not talking about it, not showing what...
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i don't know if that's a reference to scientology. do you know? >> oh i don't know. your thumb until it's safe to come out. >> talk to your friends. >> don't do anything publicly that you're going to regret like queen victoria. this is sad. this is sad. >> have you ever wanted to buy somebody else's old underpants? first of all -- oh, wow, those are queen victoria's. they're up for auction, those babies. >> those things, i mean, those are sexy. >> i'm glad the holder has gloves. it's yesterday's world news. they say they're in excellent condition, even monogrammed. >> they're from 1891 owned by -- they were the queen's but back then the ladies in waiting, when the queen was finished with something, she moved on to a thong, she would give them as gifts to her ladies in waiting. >> she gave away her underwear? >> underpants. >> what do you call them? >> i call them spanx is what i call them. last year a pair of the queen's silk underwear sold for more than 6,000 pounds. what's going on with you guys over here? >> wait let's go. game on. is this for real? >> look at the
i don't know if that's a reference to scientology. do you know? >> oh i don't know. your thumb until it's safe to come out. >> talk to your friends. >> don't do anything publicly that you're going to regret like queen victoria. this is sad. this is sad. >> have you ever wanted to buy somebody else's old underpants? first of all -- oh, wow, those are queen victoria's. they're up for auction, those babies. >> those things, i mean, those are sexy. >> i'm glad...