we need scowcroft next to this. articulate since he was moving of confronting the clear stance and they do so. finally as we know ordered a friend in marine times and negotiated a worldwide against some which was effected and three we are talking with i.m. destler, the co-author of this book in the shadow of the oval office profiles of the national security advisers and the presidents they served from jfk to george w. bush to read professor, would you do with the university of maryland? >> a teacher and the school of public policy which is a grudge with school which prepares people for government service. to begin your also the dirt of the economic policy program is that? >> the international security economic program is now part of our curriculum. we've probably 130 or 140 new students come and the equivalent of what they call national security and economic policy. and that basically the premise is particularly with the end of the cold war we need people to have some understanding of both the security side and econ

-- the new brand scowcroft center -- brent scowcroft. thank you for being here, general scowcroft. we will pay tribute next week on tuesday night to general still contributions in a dinner in honor general scowcroft to build the scowcroft center which will increase and enhance the council's capacity to conduct cutting its policy analysis of the greatest local security challenges facing the atlantic community and our global partners. britney global partners into the policy dialogue on current and future challenges. this dinner will bring next tuesday night, will bring together seven former national security advisers, current members of the congress, the obama administration, senior levels of the u.s. military, former secretary of defense robert gates, for a celebration of general scowcroft's life of public service. if you like to attend this dinner, please contact the land council for ways to get involved. yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the charter that created the atlantic council, when some of the great leaders of those times --

we had tony lake who was brent scowcroft. paolo, poindexter, the greatest failure of national security adviser resided over the iran-contra affair. so we interview the great bulk in one form or another. about we talk to other people too. retired drop of a process that worked. the website of the center for international and security studies. cissm dot com, and if you look fresh security kelso roundtable you will find the discussion of former officials for the next demonstration, one for the clinton administration, one for the george h. w. bush of ministration. and these are in debt giving people a real sense of how the process worked, and they're totally on the record. end and the -- we had one of the former national security advisor, and to that the attached the text of our interviews. kosinski, i shouldn't, but i think we were not able to get him to agree to publish the interview. >> host: we have been talking with ibm kestler, the co-author of in this shadow of the oval office. doctor, 84 your time. >> guest: it has been a

brent scowcroft knew as well as me -- [inaudible] was often oversold and overbought.and it seems the same has happened to the policy which obama administration, in my view allowed to look as more involved and more lasting that than it ry was. and the more president obama talked about policy as his success, the more he seemed to count on president medvedev as his strategic partner. the more he talked about his faith in russian liberal reforms, the more i think he was encouraging the republicans to say wait a minute, what is going on in that country? so i do think that if there is a crisis in russia, it would become a foreign policy challenge for the obama administration and an inevitable topic of presidential debates. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry i haven't been able to call on everybody, but i'm sure you will all agree with me this has been a tour de force. we haven't gotten, of course, all the questions answered, but i think dmitri has really helped us think about how to answer those questions, what the context should be and what the crucial issues are going forward. so

host: and brent scowcroft national security advisor. . exactly. so with people of that ilk you can call them and they will say high carl, maybe but won't agree to an interview so i probably took two days it write each e-mail. then i think i will interview my mother. she will have something to say. then the whole movie changed because she brought the human element, the underneath. what are we doing? what is show doing? she is keeping him to a high moral standard. she referred to the c.i.a. as catholics in actionlike in the f.b.i. especially the early years, a lot of catholics because they have a moral compass and they operate from a moral point of view or at least you hope they do. religion, morality is part of their mindset. that was part of mine too. i went to gonzaga here it d.c. and georgetown so i was surrounded by the jesuits and they made you think. we were taken as boys to the march on washington, the tent city and the priests would say what do you think? is this legal? should they be here without a permit? is this a greater cause at work?

the good stuff of to read me and straight forward bring the agencies together and so i think the scowcroft model is better as a person who works with the senior cabinet people who was a much more below them in terms of. in our look at conclusion we say there are three rules for effectiveness, the national security adviser. the first is a somewhat trust. not just at your level of the devotees level so that multiple loveless working on veterans' land policy. there are a lot of details about this and considering options for the president with the information detailed come every from the president wants. some presidents like to read, some like to read essays come most like to read, like to be talked to, some don't like to be talked to, like to be lectured, some like to be given but points and you have to be a response to that. it is one of the problems he is much more in sync. >> purchaser did any of the former national security advisers talk to you for your book? >> yes we talked to a great majority -- i talked to bundy several times. we have in all history round table which we have five norm

thank you for being here, general scowcroft.te nexto pay week, tuesday night, to general scowcroft's longstanding contribution to the united states, its allies, and the atlantic council, having a dinner in honor of general scowcroft to build this scowcroft center which will vastly increase and enhance the council's capacity to conduct cutting edge policy analysis of the greatest global security challenges facing the atlantic community and our global partners. general jindal jones will serve as the chairman of the scowcroft center which will build on the atlantic council's strong transatlantic heritage of running global partners into the dialogue on current and future challenges. this dinner will bring next tuesday night, december 13, it will bring together seven former national security advisor, current members of the congress, the obama administration, senior leaders of the u.s. military, former secretary of defense robert gates, for a celebration of general scowcroft's life and public service. if any of you wish to attend this

i will give some fair warning to my good friend, general scowcroft, i will give the floor to you after i ask my question and dmitri have answered so you get a little time to prepare. dimitri, i found a part of your presentation a little bit -- you have given us a kind of paradox, if you will. i think you quite correctly pointed out that if you survey the whole political scene in russia, you don't find it a united russia on one hand and a group of western liberal weiser's on the other -- liberalizers on the other. the second-largest party is the communists. you have a gaggle of other extremist parties. and as you pointed out, but would best be liberals, scoring only, at most, 3.5% to 4%. at the same time, however, as i watched those protests on the news, i saw, what you again correctly pointed out, what we used to call in the 1980's, mainly yuppies -- young, urban professionals, who if they did not get this straight news from television, they were in touch on the internet. they probably all followed this iconic figure, this famous blogger. there does seem to me -- be, at least among pro

>> i would say scowcroft honesty. the show of intimacy before my father testified before congress shows all of these programs are under the looking glass. >> the name of the documentary is "the man that nobody knew." it is about the cia director and your father, carl colby. we are out of time. thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> for a dvd copy of this program called 1-877-662-7726. >> upcoming guests on q&a include major general washington, discussing her career as the highest ranking female african-american in the history of the united states army. and sports writer john feinstein discusses his book, one on one, -- behind the scenes of the greats in the field. and michele fields talks about her coverage of stories, her coverage of stories,

at stanford, and i met -- when i was a young professor in a seminar at stanford, man named brent scowcroft who had been the national security adviseyear to president gerald ford and would become the national security adviser to george h.w. bush. he took an interest in my career, and when president george h.w. bush was elected, he took me with him to be the white house soviet specialist, and i was fortunate to be the white house soviet specialist at the end of the cold war. and the second lesson is fine someone who is interested in your and your career and guide you. people say they want to get there on their own. nobody gets there absolutely on their own. there's always mentors. sometimes we say you have to heal role molds and mentors who look like you i had been wait fog are black woman soviet specialist mentor, i would still be waiting. so your mentors and role models can come in any color, shape, size. just find somebody who really cares about you and cares about your career. the final part of that story is that when, in 1990, mikhail gorbachev came to the white house, and we were sitti

professor at stanford, and i met, when i was a young professor in a seminar at stanford, man named brent scowcroft who had been the national security adviser to president gerald ford and would become the national security advise 'er to george h.w. bush. he took an interest in my career, and when president wish george w. bush was elected he took me with him to be the white house soviet specialist, and i was the specialist at the end of the colored war, -- cold war, ad doesn't get much better than that. and the second lesson is find people who are interested in your career who can guide you and open up opportunities. we sometimes say i want to get there on my own. nobody gets there absolutely on your own there are always mentors, and there's another important lesson. sometimes we say you have to have role models and meantors who look like you. if had been waiting for a black woman soviet specialist mentor i would still be waiting. so your mentors, your role models can come in any shape, color, size, just find somebody who really cares about you and carolina about your career. the final part of the s

this was a warp generals opposed like brent scowcroft, and norman schwarzkopf. it was a war favored by civilians had never experiencede or paul wolfowitz, don rumsfeld or george bush or dick cheney. and the reality was we went to war under false pretenses. we went to a war not paid for. pee went into a war on a go-it-alone policy, and 4500 american homes will not have a son, daughter, husband, or wife this christmas or any christmas in the future, who can't see their children grow up, as a consequence of it. and 33,000 are wounded, many in a disabling way. i think it's left us weakened. i think it's left us with less influence. i don't think iraq-- >> "we," the united states of america? >> the united states of america, and strategically the greatest advantage has gone to iran whichs now now has an influence disproportionate to what it what before this war began. >> david, how would you see it? >> i don't know if it was worth it. the cost was high in terms of lives, treasure, and national moral. we're left th this thing. we basicry had centuries of stability and

and i met when i was a young professor and a seminar at stanford, a man named brent scowcroft with the national security adviser to president gerald ford and would become the national security adviser for george h.w. bush. he took an interest in my career and when president george h.w. bush was the lack did, he took me with him to be the white house soviet specialist. and i was fortunate to be the white house soviet specialist at the end of the cold war. he doesn't get much better than that. but the second less than just find people who are interested in you ended your career who can help to guide you in open up opportunities. we sometimes say what you get there there on my own. nobody gets their absolutely on their own. there are always mentors. there's another important lesson. sometimes we say you had to have role models who look like you. well, if i'd been waiting for a black woman soviet specialist mentor, i would still be waiting. [laughter] so, your mentors come to your wall monitors can come in any color, shape or size. just find somebody who really cares about you and cares ab

and also by national security adviser brent scowcroft he took notes. together, ford and greenspan tried to convey what they feared might happen, might happen if oil prices went up by 15%. the economies of the western industrialized world were still absorbing the oil shock of three years earlier. many of you remember that time in 1973, oil prices quadrupled, destabilizing the world economy and triggering the deepest recession in the united states since the 1930s. it put millions of people out of work and caused big corporations like pan am to appeal to the federal government for a bailout money. in europe at that time, soaring fuel costs have helped drive or shekels economy to the wall and weaken the economies of spain, greece, italy and great britain to the point where the governments were forced to appeal to international lenders for financial lifelines. with the resources of international lending agencies like the international monetary fund and the world bank all exhausted these countries turned to private banks in the united states to help them mee

and i'll give some fair warning to my good friend, general scowcroft, after i ask my questions and hisave a little time to prepare. dimitri, i found part of your presentation maybe a little bit -- you've given us kind of a paragon, if you will. i mean, i think you quite correctly pointed out that if you survey the whole political scene in russia, you don't find united russia on the one hand and a group of western liberalizers on the other. i think the second largest political party are the communists. you've got zeronofski and his nationalists. you've got a gaggle of other extremist parties. and as you -- as you pointed out, the would-be liberals at most 3 to 4% at the same time, as i watch those protests on the news, i saw what you again correctly pointed out were what we used to call in the 1980s mainly yuppies, young urban professionals who clearly -- if they didn't get the straight news from television, they were in touch on the internet. they probably all followed this figure navalni, this famous blogger. there does seem to be, at least amongst the protesters, a group of people wh

kay granger and brent scowcroft and in november, hillary clinton gave a major speech on democracy atwolf, i have to tell you, i called over to ndi and they said that they have been swamped with calls from white house, capitol hill, everyone, so this is -- these are not just ngos that you might think of. these are some important ngos. >> in addition to ndi and the iri group, freedom house, what egyptian military, they just stormed these offices in cairo? took the laptops, took all their files, started arresting people because they're what, promoting democra democracy? here's a question a lot of people are going to be asking. the u.s. gives egypt billions of dollars in foreign aid every year. i suppose that's very much going ton on the line if this continues, if they don't fix this very quickly. >> you know, it could be and certainly, i was talking again with some people in this business who were saying that maybe the egyptians wanted to pick a fight. that maybe they are angry about the strings attached to the aid that goes to egypt. that could be a theory, but one of the people from n

professor of stamford, and i met when i was a young professor in a seminar at stanford a man named brent scowcroft to have been the national security adviser to president gerald ford and was -- would become the national security advisor to george h. w. bush. he took an interest in my career, and when president george h. w. bush was elected he took the with him to be the white house soviet specialist and i was fortunate to be the white house soviet specialist at the end of the cold war and frankly it doesn't get much better than that. but the second lesson is find people who are interested in you and your career who can help to guide you and open up opportunities. we sometimes say i want to get there on my own. nobody gets there absolutely on their own. there are always mentors, and there is another important lesson. sometimes we say you have to have a role models and mentors to look like you. well if i had been waiting for a black woman soviet specialist mentor i would still be waiting. [laughter] so, your mentor, your role model can come in any color, shape or size, just find somebody who really

professor of stamford, and i met when i was a young professor in a seminar at stanford a man named brent scowcroft have been the national security adviser to president gerald ford and was -- would become the national security advisor to george h. w. bush. he took an interest in my career, and when president george h. w. bush was elected he took the with him to be the white house soviet specialist and i was fortunate to be the white house soviet specialist at the end of the cold war and frankly it doesn't get much better than that. but the second lesson is find people who are interested in you and your career who can help to guide you and open up opportunities. we sometimes say i want to get there on my own. nobody gets there absolutely on their own. there are always mentors, and there is another important lesson. sometimes we say you have to have a role models and mentors to look like you. well if i had been waiting for a black woman soviet specialist mentor i would still be waiting. [laughter] so, your mentor, your role model can come in any color, shape or size, just find somebody who really car