we're not in the serology test business at this stage. all do is the diagnostic tests that says, yes, you're positive or you're negative. the test result is as reliable as the ilation that you give yourself between testing and result. anybody can pick it up in between. so i do think that if people t are diligent, y get tested twice a week and it's absolutely p not onsible, we as a country could easily test twice a ek. and a test doesn't take long. it's a snap.ou >> what people who are nervous about getting tested? there are people who are reluctant still. >> again, they've got to look hard at the people they love and make that decisionst >> i'd like to show you something president trump said about testing just recently. let me show you what he said and get your reaction onhe back end. >> what we've done on testing -- we've now tested more than the entire world put together, the entire world put together. we have many more tests than they do and better tests. cases is because we have more testing. >> we actually have not conducted more tes

where is the results from the serology tests? where you already have antibodies. there was an article that the cdc found out the 24 states were combining the serology test results along with the regular covid test, and that is how you get a higher number. the other thing is i spent 40 years using n95's. you have to be almost clean-shaven to wear one because you cannot get a seal over more than two days beard. foundation ran a hydroxychloroquine and found out that it was beauvais better than remdesivir -- and found out that it was way better than remdesivir. so who is ordering who? thank you. host: you can send comments to twitter, @cspanwj. this one from florida, i am shocked how little my state and local government prioritized their relationships with the local economic council, chambers of commerce, over the public health and safety of such a vulnerable population. timothy says, still cannot eat inside the restaurants or bars. warm weather has helped the economy with the outdoor option, but in my town, people are stubborn about masks and who knows who is washing

an assessment of the amount of each of the categories that we need ppe, diagnostic, serologic, other covert tests, treatment of covid-19, medical supplies and equipment, the list goes on. this is such a massive dereliction of duty. people are dying. what we are saying to the senate -- join us in asking the president to use executive action for good instead of ill, as he has done, and pass the heroes act, which supports -- let's just focus on what it means for our schools because across the country, the angst of people reporting to us about the anxiety they had, chilling the -- the decision as to whether to send their children to school. what is the president do? the negative. were not going to give you money unless you open up. no, you give schools money to open up, and that is precisely what we do in the heroes act. we have $100 billion education stabilization fund specifically geared to the coronavirus. quite frankly, with the time that has gone by and attitude that the president has had the negative attitude the president has had, we probably need more money. we probably will need

an assessment of the amount of each of the categories that we serologic,iagnostic, other covert tests, treatment of covid-19, medical supplies and equipment, the list goes on. this is such a massive dereliction of duty. people are dying. what we are saying to the senate -- join us in asking the president to use executive action for good instead of ill, pass the done, and heroes act, which supports -- let's just focus on what it means for our schools because across the country, the angst of people reporting to us about the , chilling thead decision as to whether to send her children to school. what is the president do? the negative. give schools money to open up, and that is precisely what we do in the heroes act. $100 billion education stabilization fund specifically geared to the coronavirus. quite frankly, with the time that has gone by and attitude that the president has had the negative attitude the president has had, we probably need more money. we probably will need more money. we do have any moving forward legislation that we passed our infrastructure built, another $100 billio

if you look at serological studies that suggest that actually the disease, the infection is more commonger people, they just don't seem to get the acute severe illness. having said that, it is too there isbe sure, but increasing anecdotal evidence that younger people, even though they don't necessarily have a severe acute illness, may go on to have quite prolonged, quite disability after and may experience severe disability after the infection. younger people are not so much at a risk of dying but possibly if these early reports are substantiated, increased risk of getting long-term chronic complications. francine: how much do we know about this, professor jack a or? it seems to affect the lungs and now it is seen as cardiovascular. probably not for a few months yet because generally we the -- when we talk about chronic consequences of an infection, we are talking about that lastconsequences more than six months. clearly the vast majority of people infected by this virus were infected less than six months ago. wait a few actually more months to get enough cases, we will not really know

that's on serology testing which tells us who's infected and who's recovered., there's been community growth in the virus in the transmission of the virus and there's been spread in the last month. if nobody could dispute that. it's also true that basically if we tested everybody on the same day, we have a massive number. how can i tell you that with certainty? i can tell you last week just to a few days ago, amazing numbers out in ne arizona and they found that 50% of people in-state have antibodies. such transfers to have a million of people in arizona recovering assuming that their test was correct and there's no reason to believe it was in. we haven't done that on the national scale so we truly don't know how many people have already gotten this. what i'm saying to you, what i'm saying to everyone, this rise from 10,000 or 20,000 cases, i should say 20,000 positive tests-50000 positive tests, very little and there's hundreds of thousands of people nationally infected with this. >> jon: went and deposited said, would you just sighed, do you agree with that?

when you look at the cdc study, the cdc is conducting a number of different serological studies. you're referring to has a particular set of limitations that are very important for people to recognize. number one, it's a study that's based on blood that's coming from a number of different places in the united states and going to two labs and then going to the cdc and it's from people who are hospitalized or going to the hospital for routine check ups. so, it's not the general population that's being looked at. that's an important thing to know. the second thing is the aliza test that was used to do that study also has a little bit of ability to detect some ordinary coronaviruses. so, there's a tiny bit of problem from that as well. but even with all that that i'm just telling you, it's still an incredibly important study and very significant in terms of the total population of people that have been infected with this virus. but it's still way below the total numbers that would be significant if we wanted to talk about herd immunity, which is not something i'm even sure we can eve

the reason we know that is we have done serological tests and the numbers are ten times more than recorded. so let's just do a little math here. 60,000 people a day are reported to be infected. that means 600,000 a day are actually infected. if you are infectious for five to ten days, that means, every day, 3 to 6 million people are walking around, possibly, infecting you in this country. that is an epidemic, out of control. i am not surprised that the president's security adviser was infected. if there are 3 to 6 million people walking around, breathing out this virus, every day. we've got to get this under the control. now, testing is one part of it. but testing has to have action. has to be actionable. and you pointed out that, if you get a test result, and you have to wait five, ten, or even two or three days, it's not really actionable. you can't take the action you need, which is isolate that infected person. and then, we don't have the mechanisms to isolate those infected people, even if we do find them. and we, certainly, don't have an effective way to contact trace those people wh

>> i think the tests, both the serologic tests and the antibody tests which tells you that someone istely infected gives us some indication as to how widespread this disease is across the states. but we always have to have that cava the that we are likely underreporting and that we are undertesting. we are seven months into this and the u.s. has still not got it together to make sure we are testing all the front line workers, all of the people that are vulnerable and need access to tests. and of course as we are seeing these spikes across the u.s., now we're seeing a backlog of tests, we're seeing labs like quest diagnostic say to us that instead of a few days test turnaround time, it's eight to ten days before we're getting these covid-19 test results back. that really hinders our understanding of how bad the situation is in america. it could be a lot worse than even the official numbers are showing. >> all right, dr. seema yasmin, thank you as always for your expert. >>> daniel goldman r. sanjay iso take a look at one school in the fall. investing today wherever you are - even hangi

have been completed in arizona. 652 -- 518,000 in terms of diagnostic and 188,000 plus in terms of serology. i think everyone is familiar with those terms. one tells you if you had a virus and recovered. the pcr test tells you if you are sick today. actions toen recent slow the spread, which is necessary, in the state of arizona. 10 days ago, we prohibited large gatherings. i want to thank our local leadership, mayors and supervisors, for the local mask ordinances and the corporatization -- cooperation of arizonans. they make a difference in slowing the virus. we paused operations on gyms, bars, nightclubs, water parks, and tubing, and delayed the first day of school. by and large, we have seen compliance. there have been outliers. but by and large, compliance across the board. let's track the results. these actions having an effect in arizona? let's look at where we are today . one thing i talked about 10 days number, theare not average number of people who become infected by an infectio us person. that is a way of adding now it is major how the virus is spread. 29, our r1 on june in arizo

looking at serology studies, studies whether or not you had immunity or were exposed in the past. you take it from there, what does testing do? if this was a war, we wouldn't say we don't want more intel. if we had a flood, we wouldn't want a survey of the land to figure out how bad the damage is. testing allows us to find more people in the community and more people lead to more cases and it's as simple as that. finding the cases allows us to break the chains of transmission. look at the advantage with individual patients. if you get diagnosed early and you're somebody who is high risk and you're able to come to care early. maybe we can improve the mortality. yes, we are testing more and thankfully we are finding younger people. younger patients do not exist in a vacuum. they live alongside people who are vulnerable. we need to keep younger patients as well. so testing is an advantage both as a national strategy and also for the individual patient and we can't forget that. >> dr. bedalia, thanks very much. thanks for being with us. and when we come back, did president trump ignor

need to pick up clusters of cases in places and that is best done through a different method than serologicalt deployed a huge amount of testing. also, the other option is to use -- take our current testing methods, and test them in one go. deathe to count the accuracy because every death represents probably 100 underlying cases. tore has been an incentive underreport that, and therefore, there is a serious undercounting of deaths in india at this point. poor are hit, the hardest here. they -- ramanan: they absolutely are. that was followed by a lockdown for three months and in many ways, it continues in many parts of the country, and the disease was effectively transmitted to the poor. the rich are able to social distance. the poor are not. the disease is spreading the most amongst the poor but everyone is affected to some extent. certainly, the poor are disproportionately affected. the povertyis is line. you are saying india cannot afford to have any more lockdowns. in that sense, is it going to be a situation where the disease kind of runs rampant across the country? ramanan: unfortunately

where is the results from the serology tests? where you already have antibodies.here was an article that the cdc found out the 24 states were combining the serology test results along with the regular covid test, and that is how you get a higher number. the other thing is i spent 40 years using n95's. you have to be almost clean-shaven to wear one because you cannot get a seal over more than two days beard. foundation ran a hydroxychloroquine and found out that it was beauvais better than remdesivir -- and found out that it was way better than remdesivir. so who is ordering who? thank you. host: you can send comments to twitter, @cspanwj. this one from florida, i am shocked how little my state and local government prioritized their relationships with the local economic council, chambers of commerce, over the public health and safety of such a vulnerable population. timothy says, still cannot eat inside the restaurants or bars. warm weather has helped the economy with the outdoor option, but in my town, people are stubborn about masks and who knows who is washing u

this is our serology tests, is the orange part of the graph. the diagnostic is pcr. you can see an ever increasing amount of tests in arizona. we need i even more but we are over 950,000 tests in arizona, and more on the way and we will talk about why that will be important and how we will apply that knowledge. let's talk very quickly amounts of recent actions that we've taken with the intention to slow the spread of this virus. prohibiting large gatherings. the local mask ordinances that of god in the fact that nearly all parts of our state -- we have pause operations ofe gyms, bars, nightclubs, water parks, delayed the first day of school and have reduced restaurant capacity to 50% with much tighter guidance. what we have been in since this began and we have more knowledge about the coronavirus is a very unhappy but necessary business of breaking up large gatherings and congregations of adults. the virus is highly contagious and it spreads in groups. so the fact that bars and gyms and movie theaters, no concerts for spring training or large events happening, large

the municipal authorities here conducted a serological survey, a large one, of three wards in mumbai,ded slum areas and non-slum areas and they found across the slum areas, nearly 60% of people had coronavirus antibodies. when you take that and combine it with the fact that new cases, most of these slum areas are falling pretty rapidly, it has some epidemiologists thinking inbe immunity is developing these contained populations. ask, howi have to could so many people have been exposed so quickly? it seems pretty possible when you look at the conditions these people live in in these communities. they are some of the densest on the planet. in fact, mumbai's largest slum, which you may recognize from the movie "slum dog millionaire," may be the densest human settlement on the planet. in a place where 80 people are sharing one public toilet, families as large as eight live , socialquare feet distancing is virtually impossible in every respect. it is more or less an ideal place for the coronavirus to spread, and it seems to have done so very quickly. but perhaps with fewer ,asualties than

serologic tests, antibody tests i guess. a whole bunch.ome approved, i guess, and some not approved. so going to the diagnostics, that you were talking about. isn't it right, or not, or is there now sort of doubt about these tests and their validity? >> well, referring to the underlying test specifically, i don't think that has been well handle by fda. i think feeling the pressure to press ahead, they gave the antibody test a pause to begin with and not even inquiring to uea for them. serm these tests could produce more false positives than true positives and i think that first the agency to take a look at what they've done and then slapped an eua upon them giving companies ten days to comply. i don't know how many of them have met theuae requirements, but i suspect many disappeared because they couldn't meet the standards. sorry to say what happens is fda has been flip-flopping, if you like, course correcting to try to get this exactly right. they've made mistakes. hopefully it will be better going forward. >> okay. thank you. i don't kno

if you paid attention to any of the anti-body studies that have been done, any serological studies insing cases in the country, 10 to 85 fold. we've always known we've been missing cases are mild or largely aye symptomatic cases because we were only testing the sick previously. as we increased testing capabilities, we're testing more people, of course we're going to find more cases and the good news, the majority of these cases, many of these cases are young people who have higher probability to surviving the coronavirus and actually aren't going to have big issues with it. so the idea that everyone seems surprised we're finding more cases in this country just defies logic. ashley: there you go. good place to leave it. lisa booth, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thanks, ashley. ashley: thank you. it is a long delay. samsung is gearing up to release its next major smartphone on august 5th. lauren, do know know what it's all about? what will we see? lauren: virtual unveil of the galaxy note 20 on august 5th. leaked unvary fight image. that is a verified image. the colo

. >> i know you've been doing a lot of serology testing and that individuals are presenting with antibodies so off the five types of antibodies that people are most likely to have, which ones do most recovered, which ones do they show and if one of these are present, does that make a difference and if the patient can be reinfected or not? are they effectively immune, at least for some period of time? what kind of answers does this give us if you have the presence of certain antibodies? >> i'd love to give you a really precise scientifically based answer, but the fact is, we don't know. when you get an acute infection, you get an igm antibody. as you develop a more mature response, it becomes an igg. there are subclasses, some more protective than others. the thing we don't know, senator, that we will know in time, but it's going to take time to know it, is what the relationship between the neutralizing antibody and binding antibodies that don't neutralize, what is the relationship between the titer and degree of protection and what is the durability of protection? we've seen some puzzling t