and he and sestak are the same.nd i saw a stat where you would go through a week, almost every one of us saw 30 katie mcginty ads during those last couple weeks. >> right. >> that's a heck of a lot. and she is someone innocuous, somebody that you wouldn't have a negative toward, so it doesn't surprise me. but the scope of victory was a little bit high, yeah. >> and it was really, also, organizational, nelson. boots on the ground. getting out the vote is key, as we all know. >> yeah, i think one of the things that people don't realize is marcel groen, who was the chairman of the montgomery county party, is now the chairman of the pennsylvania democratic party. and he's an incredible leader. he changed montgomery county. shapiro, obviously. and in addition to that, they had the president. so, everywhere the president was and everywhere marcel was, the combination of that, i think, was a big difference in terms of the election. the president campaigned, and they brought so much money. the dscc, which is the democratic