, paula, the myth harris did not do in a podcast, she did her own, she was on call her daddy, shannon sharp's podcast, there are things out there she did, may not have done the roll vote ones but when out with the bro shows but she did her own. do you think there is merit to the idea trump's embrace of this type of cultural phenomena, media phenomena was different from the way the vice president did? >> i think so. he was doing that all the time constantly. think about his last day for the election, he was in pennsylvania, he looked at the crowd, i will go off teleprompter because i want to speak truth. that tells you what the strategy has been, over a year he has been speaking his version of truth in this other ecosystem for months and months. i think in that world is where the maga crowd has also been speaking their version of truth that never captured in the polls or numbers and stats and cable tv. a version of truth where they get to say what they want, whatever they want to expose their grievances, the sexism, misogyny to the point that perhaps, i was thinking about this, msg puerto rico