shaq, what's it like out there? >> reporter: that's right. you said a growing and peaceful crowd, and that's what we're seeing right now. it seems like several hundreds of people are out here. off in the distance, and i believe you have that camera shot, you have the group of people who are -- had the bullhorn, who are talking, who are rallying, the common chants that you hear for any protest like this. but you look around and you get a sense of the crowd that has grown fairly quickly. you see people on bikes. you see a vendor down the hill there that came out fairly quickly. it just gives you an idea, this is something that people were ready for. people were watching and waiting. they knew this verdict was happening, and especially when we got to the closing arguments yesterday. this is something that they said they're focused on, that they have been passionate about. this is something that we saw protests back after george floyd was originally killed, something that they were focused on, that there was a big -- there were groups, specific g

let me bring back in shaq brewster.paul butler, and rachael polus is joining us, too. one issue we talked about at the top of the show has been settled and that is whether or not this expert on use of force can testify. now the discussion involves someone named maurice hall who was with george floyd before his death. >> sure, let's start with what we were talking about earlier in terms of the expert that the prosecution is trying to call. the judge said he will allow testimony from that expert in a limited form. he will allow that expert, excuse me, to testify about the crowd, for example. that is an argument you have been hearing from the defense. he addressed the specifics on the crowd. we also know the judge denied testimony on what is called auditory paradilia. it is the idea that you can hear things that you're prompted to hear. this goes back to what we heard last week when the defense asked one of the witnesses if he heard george floyd say "i ate too many drugs" and the prosecution in the redirection got the witn

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shaq brewster mentioned that's very uncommon. i would be interested to know why you thought perhaps he went ahead and did that. was it to calm tensions, and what role does he have in this investigation compared to that state agency that obviously did not show up at this press conference today because the normal protocol here wasn't followed. >> right. good questions, kasie. the brooklyn control center police department is not conducting the investigation. it appears to be the bureau of apprehension, the same one that investigated officer chauvin. that makes sense. you wouldn't have the department where that officer worked who fired her weapon and killed mr. wright conduct the investigation. you would hand it off to another investigating agency. not surprising to me he didn't have all the answers, not surprising to me he didn't have all the answers because we're so early. to shaq's point and reverend sharpton's point, transparency is a good thing, but they didn't seem -- i'm referring now to the release of the body-worn camera foo

so another emotional day after what has been an emotional week of testimony. >> thanks, shaq. if you will hang in for a bit. paul butler, i wanted to ask you about defense strategy. humanize george floyd and drug use. how the defense went at it. let's listen to a little more of the testimony. >> the pills that you purchased in march, did you know those were purchased from mr. hoff. >> what -- >> the pills that you purchased in march of 2020. >> no, i did not. >> those are the pills that kept you up all night. >> we got pills in may that reminded me of the same feeling. i don't know if they were the same pills. it was a similar experience. >> that was approximately a week before mr. floyd's passing? >> yes. >> and by similar experience, do you recall telling the fbi that when you have that you felt like you were going to die? >> i don't remember saying that, but i did see it in the transcript. >> did you see mr. floyd take the pills? >> yes. we did take them together that time. >> when he took those, he did not die. >> no, he did not. >> did you see how it affected him? >> he h

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shaq? >> reporter: i think you know that testimony from dr. andrew baker, the reason it's so highly anticipated is because there's genuine uncertainty at least from the outside over what exactly he would say. you would hear the defense during their cross-examination mention the drugs in george floyd's system, mention his previous health conditions including that heart condition that he has. and you would think it was leading the suspicion to believe that they were going to get something out of andrew baker pointing to the autopsy he did to help prove their defense. he didn't provide them much. he made very clear he explained the language in the autopsy and back in june when it was released it was controversial. people saw that and thought he was excusing the officers and frustration he didn't use the word asphyxia but through his testimony and the testimony of dr. thomas earlier today it was clear and putt it in c context d what people suspected didn't happen and seemed to confirm what the prosecution was saying that he had health conditions a

>> shaq, stay with us as part of our continuing coverage. we're continuing breaking coverage of the derek chauvin murder trial. the fate of the former police officer now in the hands of the jury. joining our conversation, msnbc legal analyst paul butler, a former federal prosecutor and now a professor at georgetown law, chuck rosenberg is here, a former u.s. attorney and a former senior fbi official and eddie glaude is back, chair of the department of african-american studies at princeton university and msnbc contributor. i want to start with you, paul butler, on this fight between the lawyers while the jury was still in the room about stories. and it has such an echo to what is rotting our politics right now, but it was a fight in a legal context about the defense, at least, interpreted it as denigrating the things they were saying in their closing arguments, basically saying, you can't call it a story. what the prosecution said so powerfully is verdict means truth and there's only one truth. there are not two sides to this case. there's on

shaq, let me start with you. today we know the defense has their own expert on this, this is going to be a highly litigated portion of this trial in a trial already highly litigated. >> that's right, chuck. i'm glad you mentioned that. we're over the next couple of days, probably remainder of this trial, we're going to hear a battle of experts also, people from the prosecution brought on to underscore their point, it was the actions of derek chauvin that led to the death of george floyd. when the defense makes their case, you will hear the defense, and their experts will say the fentanyl in his system and drugs and underlying medical condition. i think the important points today, chuck, four points i want to break down. you heard dr. tobin express george floyd died from a low level of oxygen, asphyxia. a word you don't see in the medical examiner's report and we will hear from the medical examiner tomorrow. number two, because it's the actions of chauvin, handcuffs, prone position, the knee in the neck and in the

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shaq, what do you know?much what you said, that's just in the past couple minutes, we got notification from the court saying the verdict has been reached. it was a short notification. the jury verdict will be ready between 3:30 and 4:30 p.m. local time, between 4:30 and 5:30 eastern time. we know the court was going to give us a heads up. seems like that's what's happening now. a verdict has been reached after 11 hours of deliberations. what that means now, we know in the downtown area things have been tense. we know even today since closing arguments there's been visible security presence and also visible presence in terms of the protesters and demonstrators down the street, people that have been here pretty aggressively with their signs, honking horns. they've been making clear. you may hear someone talking about derek chauvin. right down the street, people with signs saying they want justice for george floyd and are following this closely. we can expect more people to come in now, more people to come into

shaq, let me turn to you. folks in minneapolis still in the process of healing after the chauvin verdict. you have these fresh wounds with daunte wright's shooting. what's the mood there right now as his family prepares to lay the 20-year-old to rest here in about two hours? >> reporter: it's somber. you see the hearse that pulled up not too long ago in front of the church. the doors to the church opened. his casket was taken inside. we expect to hear from his family. his parents, his mom and dad, they are expected to speak. we will hear from his siblings, six brothers and sisters. we will see his 2-year-old son that he left behind as well. we know there are high profile speakers, al sharpton will deliver the eulogy. benjamin crump will deliver what the family is calling a plea for justice. we know amy klobuchar, the senator from minnesota, will be on the program as well. we are expecting that somber day in terms of the investigation and the officer responsible for his death, she is currently charged with seco

i am joined by shaq and maura, and the naacp legal defense fund. shaq, first to you. have been through so much in the past few weeks in minneapolis. tell us what you are seeing today. >> the range of emotions. earlier we talked about celebrations with the verdict and conviction of derek chauvin. now it's a somber day. you have family members arriving for the funeral of daunte wright. he was killed about 11 days ago when an officer yelled taser, taser, taser before firing a bullet into him. the family will close the cass -- casket for the final time before laying him to rest. we will see his brothers and sisters and 2-year-old son. reverend al sharpton will deliver the eulogy for the family. remember, he did the same thing for the family of george floyd. we know that benjamin crump will deliver what is called a plea for justice and we will hear from amy klobuchar according to the flier out now. we are expecting the family at any minute. to underscore the point you were making in the introduction, we also expect to see the family of george floyd. they stayed in town and

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shaq, take me inside. you are there on a different capacity as the rev. you are there covering it. take me inside there today and impossible to separate what happened tuesday from what happened today. talk about the intersection of emotion there in this one small area. >> reporter: what you saw there was part pain and part purpose as this funeral and memorial service went on. you saw the heartbreak of the family, daunte's mother in tears every time the camera was on her and dealing and struggling with the loss she faces. you heard from the siblings, the six siblings he leaves behind. three brothers, three sisters saw his 2-year-old boy he leaves behind and get a sense and got a heartbreaking sense of the family's pain as we watch this memorial service but just as they were in pain they also had a sense of purpose and you saw that and heard that from the speakers, with the bite that you played from reverend sharpton and as he summarized the eulogy and senator klobuchar on stage talking about systemic racism, from the governor of the state. when you look at the dignitaries there, the

shaq brewster, i believe, has made his way to a camera location. shaq? there, nicole. you know, few interesting things that we heard there and this testimony, as you mentioned, it's in a side bar right now so they're conferring with the judge right now but you heard the supervisor ask about the body camera and the fact that it was on, is your body camera on? that was captured a little bit in it, and then we saw some new body camera video. this is some new video we're seeing from the officers at the actual hospital as george floyd was being worked on, and i believe the judge -- the courtroom is back in session, so i'll let you listen there. >> shift sergeant in conducting force reviews. when you conduct a force review, you typically visit the scene, is that right? >> yes. >> interview witnesses, correct? >> yes. >> gather all the information, body-worn cameras, correct? >> yes. >> and review that footage, correct? >> yes. >> and make a preliminary determination as to whether or not it would be necessary to forward this for a review by internal affairs, is

shaq broouser and katie beck and gator haik on capitol hill. we will play that new 911 call released from columbus, ohio, showing what happened in the moments before 16-year-old makaya bryant's death. we have to warn you, this video is disturbing. >> we got these grown girls over here, trying to fight us, tryin' to stab us. get here now. >> reporter: the officer arrive, he sees a group of young people. bryant appears to hold a knife lunges to another girl who falls to the ground, confrongt a second star. that's when he fires four shots, bryant collapses. >> she had a night. she just went at her. >> officers performed cpr on bryant. common, stay with me. >> megan joins us live now. it is tough to watch, megan, as the case is creating anger not just in columbus but all across the country. talk about what we are learning from officials about the investigation and we are learning about she and her family. >> reporter: so, hallie, right now, this case is in the hand of the ohio criminal bureau of criminal investigations. and they are the state agenc

baker later today, steph. >> shaq, thank you so much.you get the weekend off. >>> we got to dig into this deeper. joining us now to discuss, glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and dr. vin gupta, pulmonologist and nbc news medical contributor. we saw the defense attorney eric nelson try to discredit these medical experts, who do not have a dog in this fight. you have been in these cases for years. do you think the defense was good at discrediting them? >> in a word, steph, no. not everyone lends themselves to a good defense. not undermining attorney nelson but there's really nothing he can do to undermine the witness testimony. i have to give a shout out to shaq, who just brilliantly covered and set up what we are covering. dr. tobin set up the one, two, three of george floyd's death and did it brilliantly. it was really important for jurors to hear it before they heard today from dr. baker, who actually performed the autopsy. why? when you look through dr. baker's autopsy report, there are some things that are curious and perhaps

we get the sense that it is starting to wrap up at least in the next couple of days, chuck. >> shaq, thank you. let me bring in paul and chuck here. paul butler, what should we -- what did you glean from how long the defense decided to cross examine this witness from the prosecutor's side. >> chuck, the sergeant is a paid expert witness for the prosecution. he earned $10,000 for this case. that may detract from his credibility with some jurors. but his credentials will impress others. he's trained over 3,000 officers on the use of force. so when he bluntly stated that chauvin used excessive force, that carries some weight. he did offer the defense a slight concession. he said he kicked at the officers earlier in the encounter so they were justified at using force at that point. but once mr. floyd was on the ground in handcuffs, the officers should have pinned him down. they should have stopped pinning him down. and chuck, i don't think the jury actually needs to hear from noncops. that's something they heard from to understand that point. it's common sense. >> right. >> police work a

floyd was in hennepin county. >> shaq, let me go to you first.ce evidence that would have refute it without him having to talk about it? >> that's exactly what they were trying to do. we saw before the jury was brought in the prosecution came up and explained to the judge they actually got a call here from the medical examiner in hennepin county, dr. andrew baker, saying he was watching the testimony yesterday of dr. fowler and there were results in the blood testing from george floyd after he died that would have answered the question of how much carbon monoxide was in his system. i know they used a whole bunch of medical terms i'm into the trying to repeat right now but regarding how much carbon monoxide was in his system. the judge said this should have been evidence you submitted before. this was not in the record. you can't come after you hear that testimony when the testimony was very clear, we knew what dr. fowler -- or prosecutors knew what dr. fowler was going to testify. the judge said you can't submit new evidence after the fact, you s

>> thank you, shaq -- >> sorry! >> thank you, shaq, for the latest on that. we'll also have more tomorrow night at 9:00 with a special report on the trial. we'll have extended clips from this week's testimony and expert analysis. that's tomorrow night at 9:00 right here. and that is right after the mehdi hasan show. ly lina hidalgo and anthony fauci will be on her show. >>> we could clear things right now about covid, including whether it's time to vaccinate kids. nothing against dr. fauci, but i've got dr. lipi roy when we come back. dr. lipi roy when we come back. you may have many reasons for waiting to go to your doctor right now. but if you're experiencing leg pain, swelling, or redness, don't wait to see your doctor. these could be symptoms of deep vein thrombosis, a blood clot which could travel to your lungs and lead to a pulmonary embolism. which could cause chest pain or discomfort, or difficulty breathing—and be deadly. your symptoms could mean something serious, so this is no time to wait. talk to a doctor right away, by phone, online, or in-perso

shaq, lapd officer jody steiger. what does the pool report tell you about how the jury is attending to his testimony on cross-exam today? >> this was one of the first expert witnesses not from the minneapolis police department. we had several days of minneapolis police officers coming and testifying. according to the full reports, two reporters in the courtroom, according to notes from them, it seems the jury is more attentive today. that they are going in and out of taking notes especially when they heard conclusions that derek chauvin used excessive force. yesterday the testimony seemed to drag on that you have one jor nodding off and several other jurors were looking around the room and becoming fidgety. one note that the reporter made was when we heard eric nelson play that sound of george floyd being restrained. posed in a question was i ate too many drugs. you saw jurors taking notes. the officer said that's not necessarily what he heard or couldn't make out the words, but you are getting the sense that eric ne

shaq, let's go over what happened today with the defense resting and one prosecution rebuttal witness, dr. tobin, quick rebuttal and decision that we all saw but the jury did not see when the former police officer derek chauvin decided to take his fifth amendment right and not testify in his own defense. >> that's right. some really big headlines in this trial of derek chauvin. the jury has been sent home for the long weekend after the defense officially rested their case, not calling a witness slated to be called yesterday. so the defense rested their case. the prosecution called a rebus -- rebuttal witness. what the prosecution used dr. tobin to emphasize was the idea that carbon monoxide poisoning contributed to the death. so after the direct examination and quicker cross-examination, the case was rested. monday the jury will begin deliberating. the judge said to pack a bag. he said it could be as short as an hour or as long as a week in terms of time to deliberate. but they were told to come with bag in hands and the case will be in their hands monday. >> derek chauvin is not test

investigator but also being the most senior member of the minneapolis police department, craig. >> shaq brewster outside that courthouse. gabe is also outside that courthouse in minneapolis as well. gabe, walk us through what this all tells us about the timeline of this case. >> craig, picking up on shaqqees -- shaq's point, you have to wonder the credibility of the police chief who worked at the police department since the mid '80s saying officer chauvin went too far. yesterday the shift supervisor said chauvin went too far. building on the timeline as well. the police sergeant. we saw pictures of him arriving at the scene and the officers putting up the crime scene tape. some viewers may wonder what took them so long. in terms of the timeline, the encounter happened around 8:00 p.m. as the sun was setting. it looked like this happened within the next hour, hour and a half or so. with george floyd pronounced dead at 9:30 p.m. tuesday after memorial day it was called a medical incident. even the police chief and mayor held the press conference when the details of this were not fully kno

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with the jury deliberating on monday, the public has already rendered their verdict our shaq brewster is outside the courthouse. >> reporter: court is out of session today, but we do know attorneys from both sides on the defense and prosecution will spend the day working with the judge to set those specific jury str st instructions that's because on monday we can expect to hear closing arguments begin, both sides will present their cases to the jury, and then the jury instructions will be announced, and then it will be in the hands of the jury. the judge warning the members of the jury to pack a bag, to hope for short but prepare for the long as they go through their deliberations. all of this comes after a very busy day in court yesterday. we heard from ex-officer derek chauvin for the first time he wasn't testifying instead he was invoking his fifth amendment protection saying he would not take the stand in his trial we also saw dr. martin tobin come wak to the stand to rebut some claims made by the defense during their testimony all of that happening yesterday as we look ahead to m

shaq, there have been reports that a member of the jury during today's proceedings fell asleep and that appear to be disinterested, perhaps distracted. give us a sense of what's happening in the courtroom today. >> yeah, geoff, this comes from our pool reporters. the two reporters who are inside the courtroom. remember, we're limited because of social distancing and the court's rules there. based on a pool report we got earlier today, we got a sense that some of the jurors have been paying attention and taking lots of notes but there was one juror in particular who the pool report says in the back row appeared to be sleeping. the other jurors seemed very attentive watching nelson and the lieutenant as they were going through and testifying. but when a graphic was shown on the screen about ground control and was put up on the screen, you saw one juror -- we saw all the jurors look up at that graphic but the other juror that had the head down did not look up as well. so the suspicion is that this juror was sleeping. this is something that we noticed the testimony this week has been less e

shaq? >> reporter: right, andrea. this is a new element we heard from the defense as they were questioning dr. fowler here. one note on the side bar, one thing the judge made clear of is he does not want attorneys to argue their objections in front of the jury. instead, they usually will launch the objection and say the grounds for it and if there is need for further discussion, they will list the arguments in the side bar conversation and it looks like they're coming back to the testimony now. >> yeah, the trial is resuming. let's go back and listen to eric nelson, the defense lawyer questioning dr. david fowler who is an expert witness, medical examiner. >> dr. fowler, based on your general knowledge as a forensic pathologist, your personal experiences, what comes out of a car's exhaust? >> typically we see the products of combustion. it an internal combustion engine coming out the exhaust and the major products of combustion are going to be water vapor, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and a couple of other very sma

shaq, thank you. let me bring in mark and danny in here and control room and let's play at the center of today's testimony is about this issue of was chauvin following procedure or not? let's play slot one. >> do you have an assessment as to whether or not this model is useful in the field? >> i believe it's useful. >> is it possible for a police officer to use this critical thinking model in the field when actions are -- i'm sorry, when events are unfolding quickly? >> it is possible to rehearse and reuse this model it would be like -- it could be almost like memory and what we talk about fast evolving situations, i know that they do exist. they do happen. but a lot of the time we converse of that is that a lot of the time we have the time to slow things down and reevaluate and reassess and rego through this model. >> guys, let me also play, let's play number three here of mercil and the issue of least use of force. i want to get the entire sort of issue on the table from the testimony and let you bo

shaq, let me start with you. i go back to yesterday and so far today, it is pretty clear the prosecution is trying to set up the medical examiner's testimony in a specific way. they are very concerned about it being framed in isolation. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. it's almost like they are saying, before you hear that, we want you to hear from these experts. we are hearing from dr. thomas. we heard from the pumonologist yesterday. we will hear from a cardiologist before we get to hear from the medical examiner. they are trying to paint this picture of before you listen and before you see the numbers, before you see the detail from the medical examiner, listen to our experts so you can frame how you listen to what we expect to hear later. what we heard from dr. thomas, i think you saw it was what exactly the prosecution has been trying to get out of these experts. sherivation that is the cause of death. she has done thousands of autopsied. this just happened in the past 20 minutes or so. you saw the cross-ex

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shaq, let me just begin with you, really quickly, on the ground. because it seemed like the -- the -- the defense-closing argument there. suddenly, broke in order for the judge to take this to lunch. do we understand if the defense has finished their closing arguments? or will they resume, after this lunch break? >> it certainly doesn't seem like they finished, yet, he was right in the middle of that argument, getting on the causation aspect. talking about the drugs in george floyd's system. the part that is key to their overall case. and you saw what was described to me as pretty unusual. the judge interrupting those closing arguments to essentially let the jury have a break. let the court reporter have a break. and this is a judge, that over the course of the trial, has not shied away from interruptions or making sure that the court reporter and the people in the room can have that break. but it seems fairly unusual for that to happen, during the actual-closing argument from mr. nelson. but i will, also, say that this is a pretty extensive-closin

>> shaq, thank you so much. that is what is going on. joining us to discuss civil rights attorney and prosecutor david henderson. david, this morning the lapd sergeant is resuming his testimony. what are you watching out for? >> stephanie, what i'm watching out for at this point we have to draw distinction about what is tragedy and what is true. american policing is on trial and no one seems to understand that better than the minneapolis police department. we're hearing from witness after witness now who are presenting the bad apple defense. it's not us. it's not our policies. it's not our training and it's this one rogue officer and there are at least 27 million reasons why that's not true. the civil lawsuit wasn't just about derek chauvin. it was about the other three officers with them and the systemic problems within the minneapolis police department. if we don't draw the line between persuasion and the truth after this trial we go back to business as usual, and we can't have because we can't have another george floyd. >> what do you

>> reporter: jeff, as shaq was mentioning, dr. martin ttobin will be a crucial way to wrap up testimony. you remember a few days ago, last week, he was brought on as a witness. as perhaps one of the prosecution's most credible witnesses. that's why they are choosing him to act as their rebuttal witness. as shaq mentioned, he will only be able to talk about environmental factors. eric nelson, the defense attorney for derek chauvin, also brought up that he shouldn't be allowed to talk about an enlarged heart because he is a pulmonologist. the judge said he has expertise as a cardio pulmonologist. he can test around that. this guy wrote the book on breathing. the prosecution was very -- thought his testimony went extremely well when they brought him along the first time. it is surprising. we were expecting another expert of some sort, perhaps a medical expert from the defense this morning. now the defense -- with the defense resting, the prosecution coming back with dr. tobin. it will be interesting to see how long his testimony last

shaq brewster, outside, you've been reading the pool report. how are the jurors reacting so far to the prosecution closing argument? >> well, andrea, it sounds very similar throughout the trial, they've been engaged, leaning in, taking notes. as steve schleicher is making closing arguments, at the end, that the bystanders didn't have the power to intervene, but you as members of the jury do have the power. all of the jurors had their eyes fixed on schleicher as he said they have the power. you heard schleicher of conversations they had during the jury selection process, that process that took about three weeks and we learned from those jurors as they were the ones under oath answering questions from both attorneys. many of them said that they had favorable views of blue lives matter after being asked about that. the police make them feel safe, that they're comfortable with them. you've heard him reference that. this is not a case about policing. this is not the case of minnesota versus the police. this is, instead, the state of minnesota agains

shaq, thank you. >>> let me go over to ali velshi. ali, you were on the ground during the protests right after the death of george floyd. what are you seeing now? do you see them preparing in ways that show they may have learned something from what happened last summer? >> yes, both police and protesters are doing that. give you an example of national guard posted on the downtown corner at fifth street near nicollette mall. this is usually a busy downtown area. it's been less busy because of the coronavirus. but you can see the boarding up of places. there are no police on leave now. everybody is called in. when you see police going down the street, you usually see them in 2w0 cars with a national guard officer. where you see protesters on the street, you're not seeing police interaction with them. where there's interaction with the courthouse, for instance, or brooklyn center, about ten miles north of here where daunte wright was shot, there are two lines of fencing in front of the police station. so there's no interaction between po

>> shaq, ten miles away the chauvin trial set to resume this morning. no surprise, defense pushing hard on this argument that floyd died from drugs and other health complications. what can you tell us? >> yes, and they're getting testimony from key witnesses, the former chief medical examiner for the state of maryland. what his purpose was to come up and cast doubt on the case the prosecution spent weeks lating out. instead of saying the death was a homicide as we heard from the medical examiner and other medical professions, he said he would rule the death of george floyd to be undetermined, instead of saying it was a gradual death that happened because of the restraints on george floyd, he said it was a sudden death that just happened during the restraints that were on george floyd. i want you to listen to a sense of that testimony that we heard yesterday. >> how did the heart and drugs contribute to the cause of death? >> they were significant or contributed to mr. floyd having a sudden cardiac arrest, in my opinion. that's how i would read it. >> yo

shaq, stay close. any updates, please give them to us.will be waiting. >>> and at the white house, president biden doing what the rest of us are, waiting for this verdict and his response for when 2 comes in. we're at the white house now. what can you tell us? >> our team is told president biden the past two weeks have been meeting with top white house officials to game out responses and reactions to any potential verdict outcome. the white house has also been coordinating with state and local leaders in minnesota but really around the country so all of the various states and cities are prepared for potential protests. beyond that, the white house has also been drafting a statement for president biden to deliver once the jury rendered its verdict in this case. i'm told that no matter the outcome, the president will acknowledge and empathize the pain, grief and trauma that so many americans are feeling in the wake of george floyd's killing and that of so many other unarmed black men at the hands of police. we've also learned separately tha

. >> shaq, look, i understand, on one hand i get the embracing of the investigation, but what's that going to do about brooklyn center? right. what's that's going to do about every other police department that many folks would argue, hey, if you had a pattern and practice investigation, you might not like what you find? >> that's a good point, chuck. but i think if you listen to people who have embraced this so far, the city council, vice president, andrea jenkins who represents this area, you heard from congressman ellison the son of keith ellison on the city council these have been outspoken critics of the minneapolis police department and fighting against this department, fighting to get an item on the ballot to defund and dismantle the police department and they have shifted money from the police department to more violence prevention programs. so they are looking for systemic issues. they want that to be uncovered and that spotlight and pressure on the minneapolis police department. they also understand and you hear people even some of the strong activists say that they apprecia

and, shaq, how are they reacting to today's witness dr. thomas? >> yesterday the jurors were following along as dr. tobin was referencing the neck, they were following along with the instructions. they said they were thoroughly engaged. we also know how tough it was for the floyd family who was in the courtroom who walked out after a certain moment where they showed that george floyd lost his life. it seems like the jury is still engaged. we just got a note. if i can take it away from the jury, we do know for the first time we have seen someone occupy the seat held for a family member of derek chauvin. we don't know who she is, but it is a woman and the first time we have seen that. the seat was removed for much of the trial and someone is sitting in it now. there was a report explaining the delay in the trial proceedings. apparently the judge brought in one of the jurors asking if she hadded media contact, had been offered a book deal. they said she looked surprised and didn't know what the judge was referring to. but this is the second time the

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i want to bring many charles coleman and shaq brewster. shaq, i know there had been anticipation regarding the testimony of the doctor today. >> reporter: that's right. if we can just pull out a little bit and provide context. this is the defense presenting their side of the case. we heard last week from some of the prosecution and the state witnesses, talking about and concluding that george floyd died because of the asphyxiation. we heard from the medical examiner on friday. this is the defense shooting back a little bit and presenting their side of it. dr. fowler is going through his credentials. once he gets into his testimony, it is expected that he will provide testimony more favorable to the defense. it's not clear exactly what he is going to say. but it is of note that dr. fowler has testified before in cases like this. he is facing a lawsuit from a family that didn't like his ruling when he was a medical examiner back -- when he was a medical -- chief medical examiner in maryland. that family is suing him saying he did not rule it

pete williams, mike memoli, shaq brewster outside of that correctional facility in minnesota, leann caldwell on capitol hill, and former member of president obama's as far as force on 21st century justice. reverend al sharpton is with us as well. ly get to all of you, but pete, let me start with you. break down attorney general garland did clearly explain what this is and where it is going, break down the next steps for this. >> the next steps are that investigationers from the u.s. attorney's office will begin to look into the practice of the minneapolis police department. they will review past complaints. they willen all of those, talk to officers and they will basically say this is what we think you're doing wrong, we think you need to change, if the defendant is reluctant, then it is the attorney general can file a lawsuit and sometimes that results in a judge ordering them to make the changes. sometimes it results in a settlement or a consent decrew where they agree, but these are legally binding changes. as i say in the past some have welcomed the investigations. they want outside look

. >> shaq, thank you, i want to bring in now as we wait for court to get back in session. former prosecutor, and charles coleman, paul, let me start with you and we should note that closing arguments and the trial proceedings were supposed to start roughly five minutes ago. sometimes they start right on time, sometimes it is a couple minutes late. the second this begins we'll get into this live. paul if i interrupt you that is live. in the meantime as you look into what we will see in the next couple hours or so, what should we be listening for? what are you going to be looking for in this frankly last chance for the prosecution and sdmechbs. >> lawyers get only two chances to talk directly to the jury. closing statements are important, they will be waving them into a cohaernt story. they called 11 civilian witnesses. 10 police officers, and 10 medical and forensic experts. they were all united for the elements of the prosecution. so that's what they'll say in their closing statement. that chauvin used excessive force and that killed george floyd. >> let me po bring you in

shaq, i want to know what we're listening to now.on't know if we have shaq with us, but i will ask paul butler to jump in here. i think my control room can correct me if i'm wrong here, we're doing the pre-trial motion. is this unusual to you that the defense is asking, the prosecution and defense, having a conflict over what video the jurors can see. >> it happens all of the time. this judge is a micro manager so there is not as many objections as there normally will be because the judge made a lot of rulings, but look, the defense is getting hammered with video tapes and the jurors will just believe their own eyes. it's not surprising their trying to exclude as many videotapes as they can. >> we talked a bit ago about the defense strategy here and the way they will try to combat the many witnesses the defense is expected to bring up. this is central to the defense argument. if you have prosecuted very high profile cases. we mentioned the cosby trial. >> i would accomplish through police officer testimony after police officer testim

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shaq, we'll start with you. bring us up to speed on what we just heard. >> you continue to hear the prosecution bring out their witnesses and hear these witnesses testify. i think one thing that you heard in that last testimony right there, this was a lead investigator. the person in charge of the chain of custody of that car. you heard some of the back and forth, especially in the redirect and then when eric nelson came back up to recross examine the witness. the defense, back in january, the attorneys of the four officers, went back to that squad car and found some pills essentially, chewed-up pills that they then took to the lab and realized it was a controlled substance. and you heard eric nelson cleaning it up and just removing any doubt that the defense attorneys happened to plant those pills there. and that's what that language was there. essentially, the investigators missed it on their first attempt to process the scene, process that vehicle. and when the defense attorneys and their team found that pill

shaq, what are you watching for as the police chief takes the stand?i'm really watching for, stephanie, what he says about derek chauvin's use of force. just to set it up a little bit, this is the police chief who fired the four officers involved in floyd's death within hours after that facebook video went viral. this is an officer who back in june told nbc news that he never wanted to mention derek chauvin by name and said he didn't even want to be in a room with ex-officer derek chauvin. this is also an officer who back in 2007 was one of four senior officers to sue the minneapolis police department alleged racial discrimination. so i'm very curious how passionately he will speak against derek chauvin's use of force and what he will say about the training, what officers are trained to do and what he believes derek chauvin did wrong in that instance. i will also be watching what you will hear from the defense in their cross-examination. we have heard the defense mention with officer zimmerman last week -- lieutenant zimmerman, actually, we heard them