i shared an office with shawn sebastian. i also know him to be a patient human being. and today his patience was tested. i think that just thinking about specifically the latino community in iowa. 240,000 folks. and i think the bernie sanders campaign has gone in deep with that community. and if he comes out of a win tonight, it's beginning to be because of those folks. because i think they were able to take him over the hump to get there. >> what do you make of the the number? i don't know what the right benchmark is. 2008 is a strange year. you had two remarkable candidates and on january 3rd, which is a holiday week. a lot of people were around. so that might be generous. so what do you make of the turnout number? >> i was surprised. because across the country, we have projecting that the turnout was going to be even higher across the board. and i worry about that. and interestingly, bernie sanders, his campaign was saying early on if we get a huge turnout, that bodes in our favor. well, it may turn out that he didn't need a huge turnout and it still worked in his f

shawn sebastian is joining us right now from story county. [ laughter ] he's a precinct secretary outin getting any results, shawn? >> jimmy: hey, wolf. so i'm supposed to report the votes for our precinct, but this year, they gave us this nifty new app to upload our results. pretty ingenious everyone's worried about the election getting hacked. so, hey, why not go with an app? [ light laughter ] and then, what do you know the app crashed. and then the backup app also crashed. [ laughter ] so then i wanna call in the votes, and i've been on hold for three hours and -- >> hello, iowa democrats >> jimmy: hello, hello >> hello >> jimmy: hello? >> hello >> jimmy: hello? [ dial tone oh, come on. [ laughter ] >> shawn, have you gotten any explanation at all as to what's going on >> jimmy: all i know, wolf, is that i tried to report my votes through the app, but it said i need to update to ios 13 which i can't do because i have an iphone 6. not even 6s. just a 6 then it said i need to reset my icloud password by telling them my mom's first pet's maiden name, like, what and then -- oh, wait,

. >> shawn sebastian. >> so even those standards had more than doubled the number of people after the first alignment than pete buttigieg, they ended up with the same number of delegates. >> shawn, thank you for helping us understand what happened tonight. we're going to go to biden headquarters where joe biden is starting his remarks. >> i want to thank you all, all our supporters and all those incredible people who hold public office in this state that endorsed us, and all the endorsers from all across the country, my colleagues in the senate, in the house, and from the vice presidency, all the people who came from all over to campaign here. [ cheers and applause ] and most of all, i want to thank the iowans that are here. [ cheers and applause ] well, the iowa democratic party is working to get this result -- get them straight, and i want to make sure they're very careful in their deliberations. and indications are it's going to be close. we're going to walk out of here with our share of delegates. we don't know exactly what it is yet, but we feel good about where we are. look, so