he said of course it's wonderful it's wonderful to see john murtha shimer now coming out and he is a choice who are you counting or him in the united states and i hope that his voice penetrates to some editorial offices. in europe because he says most awfully responsibility lies with the united states and its european allies and he's dead right legal so ok let me just make sure i want to give i want to give me your word before we go to the break here go ahead and then we'll go back to st petersburg go ahead go ahead i just want to i just want to talk about this this new mccarthyism which go but touched on i mean i've been a victim of this i think anybody who appears regular an r.t. is a victim of this i gave an interview to r.t. shortly after the mh seventeen tragedy and i simply said we should wait until we have the evidence wait until it's a forensic investigation and i said it was likely impossible you know authorities to shut down the plane but i didn't say they definitely did i said we don't know for sure whatever happened until that i was attacked i was labeled all kinds of thi

shimer and perhaps with stephen calm penetrating gradually because the mercian are article is very young and gradually and people in europe become fatigued with this propaganda wave and of course when they start and i mean taking in wales with nato it starts right something further we may gets i hope we may get a different reaction we may get some revision here in this program ok gilbert in st petersburg they think they can have regime is in pretty bad shape it's in retreat right now it's sitting on an economy that is completely caving winter is coming there's no gas supply agreement with russia do you think that under the auspices of nato e.u. or some combination thereof they're going to protect this regime because again western media what the mainstream media doesn't like to talk about the nature of the regime in canada and it's very unsavory characters that the u.s. is primarily protecting here the e.u. shame on the e.u. for not even recognizing the kind of people that are in that government do you think that this is what would be the tipping point here because that would seem is not