smartmatic was only operating in l.a. been blue since 1968, so there was literally no way they influenced the outcome of the election, even if everything said about them on fox was true, but it's not true, and it's going to be a fascinating case in term of what shakes out from it. >> you put that very clearly. we say sometimes in court, arguendo. for the sake of arguing if you said is this true, is this not -- if i may use a noncourt term, it's bs. everyone though it's not easy to win a defamation case, and it's not supposed to be. here's the smartmatic lawyer. interesting as it all heats up. really referring to partly the point you just made and more details about that in l.a. county. >> my client in 2020, we were in l.a. county and l.a. county only. we weren't anywhere else. and yet you have fox publishing night after night that we were switching votes and rigging elections in states where we weren't everyone there. now, that's a level of recklessness that you almost never will see because the ability to figure out that

>> there is much to understand about smartmatic which owns dominion. >> does smartmatic own dominion?the same company. all of that is inaccurate and i guess the legal questions will be about whether they were broadcast -- whether they were known falsities ahead of the publication of those comments. >> again, it has already been adjudicated that there were known falsities in the dominion lawsuit and it seems easy to imagine, seems very easy to me to imagine the smartmatic lawyers could almost cut and paste some of that with the clip that you just played. so the question is now how much and what the timing is. but to donny's point, human nature being what it is, why would they want to go through all of this. and of course this is not going to play out in the context of the presidential campaign. and as michael pointed out, fox is in exactly the position they did not want to be in after the 2020 election. so they are getting it from both directions right now. and the only way to make the pain stop is to come up with some kind of a settlement. >> that is the first revelation i think from

with the assistance of smartmatic software, a back door is capable of flipping votes. >> smartmatic ise venezuelans who were very close to -- very close to the dictator, chavez, and it was formed in order to fix elections. >> the company reached out to fox during 2020 in this period, and they did run some sort of post hoc fact checks across three different shows, so we should note that was the response then to try to address it. fox ceo laughlin murdoch reassuring investors saying this case will be, quote, fundamentally different from the dominion case they lost to a degree they ended up having a lost quarter, being under water in profits. smartmatic is seeking even more money, over $2 billion, which is more than dominion asked for and got. whether they get close to that could wipe out a lot more profits at fox. i told you we got a lot going on tonight. i want to return to something about barack obama. including this big interview with trevor noah. we're going to get into that next. get into that next er student. i'm getting my doctorate in clinical psychology. i do a lot of hiking and

from the dominion case and perhaps also from the smartmatic case that these are not accidents, thesef fox. they understand what they are doing and they are doing it for business. nina is in a large well funded company. she is just a person. but people have been tortured in this way but fox for a long time. she feel strongly that an individual person should not be prevented from holding fox to account for the types of statements that they make and harm and can cause just because just because there is a large company. >> it's one thing to point the personal attacks that fox made against your client which are bad, of course. but the thing that would need to stand out but they purposely spread false information about your client, how do you do the? >> sure, there's a couple of different buckets in the case. the first bucket of provably false statements that we raised in the complaint are related to nina wanting to and working to censor american speech. if you take a look at anything that she has done in her career and her writing and her public statements it is very clear that she doesn'

lou dobbs is named as a defendant in this one and just one day after the smartmatic suit was filed, foxs canceled lou dobbs's show. it was a big disappointment for his audience: a cage full of parakeets in the day room. but fox is trying to make some money back, because they're also a plaintiff in an election lawsuit on behalf of fox ceo lachlan murdoch, seen here asking rupert "what happened to my new stepmommy?" lachlan is suing an australian website for implying he was a conspirator in the january 6th insurrection. the actual name of that website: crikey news! now, if they lose, it'll be good for its main competitor didgeri-news. "tonight's top story: [didgeridoo music] all that, and deadly spiders in your shower." so... we don't broadcast there, do we? it's all in good fun. fox news is out a whole lot of money, but they're not telling their viewers any of that. and they don't have to, because this settlement does not force them to own up to the damage they did to our country or apologize on their network. so... >> [booing] >> stephen: we feel the same way. so we've decided to make t

of heart, dominion, smartmatic any of you.'t one of them just say you know what, just look at this, look inside, nothing happened! they didn't do anything. nobody got in there. china didn't hack in there. you know why? because they can't do that because that's guilty. guilty! [laughter] >> jimmy: the lawsuit just went up to $2.3 billion. [applause] he's not just being sued by dominion. he, like fox, is also being sued by smartmatic, the other voting machine company and believes strongly that fox news screwed up by giving in. >> they made a terrible mistake what they did. it doesn't make sense when you go into mediation for our first amendment right of free speech and you make a deal a dirty deal behind closed doors, and i'll tell you what we are out here, i will tell you where mine ends. mine ends when those machines are melted down and turned into prison bars and we've got everybody going that was behind this going let us out, we are sorry we try to take your country. so god bless you and -- keep the faith. [laughter and appl

smart manic -- smartmatic once more than did minyan.favorite voting machine is the -- more than dominion. my favorite voting machine is the smartmatricv voting machine. tucker carlsen is the first to be fired from fox news who is only -- only partly for how he treats women. that's progress. speaking of assholes, don lemon is out of a job. don lemon released a statement saying he was fired from cnn. and cnn said they offered him a meaning -- a meeting. don lemon cannot accurately report a story about don lemon. it's messed up. how funny is it that you work in the news and then watch on the news that you got fired from the news. don lemon is the most obnoxious guy in the history of cnn. even jeffrey toobin is looking at don lemon like, he rubs me the wrong way. [laughter] letting don go was the wrong move. you shouldn't have let him go so soon, cnn. he was fine when you let him drink, you shouldn't have cut off the liquor. you don't fire your host after the first couple of scandals. you need to let them stack up. yes, don lemon was a diva

including the smartmatic case, as well as every other situation. the jacks mitt investigations.s. as will the georgia case. i expect it will be brought earlier in the timeframe that bonnie willis has laid out because of the unique requirements in georgia about how you have to go to have a speedy trial. she would want to do it early in the time of the grand jury, rather than later. probably july. >> panel, please stick around, there's a lot more to discuss. we're going to turn our attention to another major trial. this one involving the former leader of the proud boys. he's placing the blame for january six, you guessed, for january six, you guessed, it donald trump's feet. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire so diabetes, this changes things, huh? hey, a lot of people in your corner including walgreens. but do i have to give up sweets? if you work out a diet plan, nothing is off limits. you dropped it! i don't know if i can afford all these prescriptions. we

- the dominion voting systems, the smartmatic technology software, were created in venezuela at the direction're gonna become venezuela. - at one point, rudy giuliani decides they were gonna do a press conference at the four seasons, but their operation is so incompetent, they wind up at, like, i think it might be, like, a massage parlor. - yes, the four seasons. but it was, like, the four seasons laundromat. - four seasons total landscaping. they end up at four seasons total landscaping. apologies to four seasons. you are not a massage parlor. you're a landscaping company. - there are dead people voting. will smith's father has voted here twice since he died. - just everything's going wrong. i mean, rudy giuliani at one point has, like, hair dye running down his face. he looks absurd. - but trump responds to that. and trump, frankly, is a practitioner of the same kind of politics. and so they have constructed what is known as the big lie-- capital b, capital l, and till death do them part. - we're headed to a very bad place. - all right. the house oversight committee will come to order. - th

including the smartmatic case, as well as every other situation. the jacks mitt investigations.l be held by this. as will the georgia case. i expect it will be brought earlier in the timeframe that bonnie willis has laid out because of the unique requirements in georgia about how you have to go to have a speedy trial. she would want to do it early in the time of the grand jury, rather than later. probably july. >> panel, please stick around, there's a lot more to discuss. we're going to turn our attention to another major trial. this one involving the former leader of the proud boys. he's placing the blame for january six, you guessed, it donald trump's feet. donald trump's feet. april 27th through may 3rd. get a free tech check and special offers. like a free 5g phone. get started today with verizon business. it's your business. it's your verizon. i'll always take care of you. ♪ i'm gonna hold you forever... ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ be by your side... ♪ ♪ i'll be there... ♪ lila: before i was diagnosed, there was nothing really to worry about. and then when i was diagnosed, there was just such

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even though this case is settled in that regard, you still have the smartmatic case coming forward. don't know, you know, all the access to e-mails and the documents they have there, but it really speaks to a culture, i think, that had grown up inside of fox that you could communicate that way with a producer, with someone of authority inside the building and everyone's okay with it. >> and the culture was, just a culture of no accountability specifically for their biggest star. and, you know, those lines had to horrify them knowing that that was going to be out publicly, especially when you looked at all the other things that were going to be going out, him repeatedly using the c word to describe women, to describe one of trump's lawyers when he was pushing back against the very election rigging lie, the big lie that trump pushed, and here you actually have a fox news host saying you wanted a group of trumpers to kill a kid. his words. i wanted them to kill the kid. you mix that up with again, the c word used to describe women that he worked with or that came across him. the anti-s

fox news facing another $2.7 billion lawsuit from smartmatic, it ain't hard to tell, this case is goingunder way. now, governor ron desantis saying he would consider presidential pardons for january 6th terrorists if he's elected president. >> what i'm going to do is i'm going to do on day one, i will have folks that will get together and look at all of these cases who people are victims of weaponization or political targeting, and we will be aggressive in issuing pardons. >> joining me now is former gop strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project, rick wilson, and nyu professor ruth ben geought, an expert on fascism and authoritarian leaders also author of the book, strong men, how they rise, why they succeed, and how they fall. rick, i want to start with you because of that audio that we just heard from desantis. the only reason it doesn't concern me is because i know he'll never be president so he won't be in a position to pardon anyone. but what it does say is that he has staked out a position i think all too many republicans who are pretending that they're running next year wil

. >> and they're the same lawyers representing them in the shareholder lawsuits and the smartmatic case? >> there's a lot of lawyers. >> there's a lot of lawyers. i'm beginning to understand why. jeremy, mike, jim, important scoop, important piece of reporting in filling in something that mehti covers better than just about anyone, the picture behind the scenes at fox news. and katie, for making sense of it for us. thank you. katie returns in the next hour. thank you all for starting us off. >>> after the break, paging ted cruz. get used to this person -- congressman collin allred announcing he will challenge ted cruz for his senate seat. part of his pitch, the incumbent's unlike ability and actions surrounding january 6. s. whoa. okay. easy does it. we switched to liberty mutual and saved $652. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we thought we'd try electric unicycles. whoa! careful, babe! saving was definitely easier. hey babe, i think i got it! it's actually... whooooa! ok, show-off! help! oh! only pay for what you need. ♪ li

it said about another voting company, smartmatic, that its legal defense will hold.wsworthy people, the president of the united states at the time and his allies. yet what we've seen is very damaging in terms of what credibility was still associated with fox as a news property, and in terms of the intellectual honesty and legal defensibility of what fox was doing. >> david, as someone on the beat, what do you think as we're beginning to get a picture of the audience trump built with the trump town hall last night? >> say again. you cut out for a moment. >> i wanted your quick reaction to the story we led with, the trump town hall on cnn last night. >> i think it was an almost impossible assignment for kaitlan collins, to ask some tough questions from the very start of the town hall and persisted as the night went on in doing so. you had a live event in which she was surrounded by people who were either trump supporters or trump sympathetic. you could hear that in terms of their reaction, supporting -- giving him momentum and energy as he fed off the idea that he coul