i didn't notice any of that from byron smith.ined his composure, which was rather odd. kate snow: much stranger still, the investigator thought, was byron's account of what happened a few minutes after he shot nick. haile entered the house, and byron fired again. was haile really laughing as he shot her? to the sergeant, it seemed like such a bizarre detail. and then, byron told them this. he shot haile six times in all. and with that, the investigators came to believe this was something other than a simple case of self-defense. hand. she wasn't actually, i don't know if she had a weapon in her hand until later. i in her hand until later. i wasn't looking at her hands, there was certainly a continuation of the use of deadly force after it appeared to us the threat had stopped. and that made us believe that this needs to be looked at by the prosecuting attorney. kate snow: byron smith was arrested that day, but later released on bond. a grand jury was convened to look at the case. in little falls, his friends were shocked that aut

it's not what jack smith wanted. he made that clear.at a lot of other people think justice should require, but it is a heck of a long way from january 7th, when there had been no accountability for anyone, no reckoning for donald trump and his aides. and remember, no indictment of any former president ever in american history. now, our reporting tonight mentioned the mueller probe. the top mueller deputy andrew weissmann is here when andrew weissmann is here when we're back in just [restaurant noise] allison. [swooshing sound] introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. ♪♪ she thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. ♪♪ otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. doctors have been prescribing otezla for over a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms.

jack smith. jack smith said, quote, this is false and quote. what's the the trump?t is president-elect trump's response? >> very simply, president trump didn't do anything wrong. and that's why this case completely fell apart on jack smith. the supreme court ruled we believe in the right direction. and for jack smith to go and put this out on his way out the door, leaving town in disgrace, i think shows just how politicized the entire justice department has become. but i think with pam bondi, when she's confirmed as the next attorney general of the united states, again, as i referenced before, kash patel coming in to lead the fbi case, we have to get politics out of this. people have to have confidence in the legal system and our law enforcement. and that's what we're going to do with this new set of leaders who are coming in. >> does president-elect trump plan to investigate or prosecute jack smith? >> oh, president trump isn't going to be involved in anything to do with aspects of investigations or things like that. i think that's really the justice department int

jack smith knows that. it's one of the reasons why the trump lawyers have actually had the smith report, going over it for the last three days. they've been reading it at the justice department and lodging their objections. that would be an opportunity for them to say, we'd like to see this rejected. what about rejecting this? the idea is redacted the entire thing. >> so they are not even just insisting -- they're not picking a fight over specific redactions. they are saying the entire thing has to be precluded from release. >> that's where they are right now. andrew wiseman is doing a much more detailed reading of this as we speak. this is a multipage letter that i've barely been able to skim, just in the minutes it's been handed to me, just now. and so it is what we will be covering this week. and this is one of those examples of just how overwhelming our news environment is. i guess i wouldn't say i forgot about the jack smith report, but i should have started this morning thinking, okay, it's monday, je

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smith: governor? gov.d medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the congress. i happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. i was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. i was opposing one piece of legislation versus another. there is something else about social security. of course, it doesn't come out of the payroll tax. it comes out of a general fund, but something should be done about it. i think it is disgraceful that the disability insurance fund in social security finds checks going every month to tens of thousands of people who are locked up in our institutions for crime or for mental illness, and they are receiving disability checks from social security every month while a state institution provides for all of their needs and their care. mr. smith: president carter, you have the last word on this question. pres. carter:

in the end do you think that jack smith was j you think that jack smith was the right choice to prosecute choice to prosecute these cases? he certainly was very zealous _ these cases? he certainly was very zealous in _ these cases? he certainly was very zealous in going - these cases? he certainly was very zealous in going forward. j very zealous in going forward. he came up with very unique ways to use the law to try to support these cases. he clearly worked hard on them, put a lot of time and effort into them so i think without question if you're looking for a prosecutor to try a case, he was about as — he put in as much effort as he possibly could. i think the bigger question, really, is whether it made sense to bring these cases in the first place. when we look at the handling of the documents, the reality is that they looked at biden's handling of documents and said, well, yeah, he did wrong, too, but he is really too senile for us to even prosecute so if you are not going against one, why would you go against the other? and they were real questions as to the viability of those claim

professor frank smith, of doing that. professor frank smith. vice — of doing that.. professor frank smith, vice president of- of doing that. professor frank smith, vice president of the i smith, vice president of the royal college of surgeons, thank you so much for your time. time for a look at the weather with carol. the cold weather will be with us through this working week. we are looking at the cold weather continuing, further wintry showers for some of us, widespread frosts, and the risk of ice on untreated surfaces first thing. as we go through the week, you see the colder areas remain across the british isles. towards the weekend, the milder yellows are coming our way, so not as cold as at the moment. at the moment, we have the morning rain having moved away, taking snow showers with it, but further snow showers continuing across southern and northern scotland, a few in england and wales. some in the midlands, and also northern ireland. temperatures today may say 2—7 c, but we have gusty winds, and the wind chill will make it feel sub—0 for many. we are looki

but smith opted not to.mp has called smith "politically motivated" and "deraned." >> i defeated deranged jack smith. he is a deranged individual. >> reporter: smith says trump's claim that smith was influenced or directed by the biden administration "is, in a word, laughable." the former special prosecutor dropped his case after trump won reelection, citing policy prohibiting a sitting president from being subject to criminal prosecution. california democrat pete aguilar, who investigated the january 6th riot as part of a house select committee, says if smith had been appointed sooner, trump might not have avoided trial. >> the january 6th committee did a lot of work on the front end, and we would have liked to see things move a little faster. >> reporter: before the clock ran out. >> before the clock ran out. >> reporter: smith's report also says when trump publically attacked witnesses and investigators, trump's followers would then threaten them. trump has also talked of locking up some members of congres

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us special counseljack smith who led federal investigations into donald trump has resigned just days before trump reta kes the white house. and celebrations in sudan, after the army captures a strategic eastern city — from the paramilitary rapid support forces. hello, i'm carl nasman. we begin with the wildfires in los angeles, where the death toll has risen to 16. more evacuation orders have been issued as crews continue to battle multiple wildfires. the largest blaze is now bearing down on a new area — the wealthy neighbourhood of brentwood. these are pictures from los angeles in the past hour. cruiser continuing to work to keep the blazes from spreading. —— crews. in addition to the 16 deaths — around a dozen others are missing. police dogs are helping the search for victims while control efforts are now being supported by firefighters from mexico, canada and seven neighbouring us states. as the new firefighters arrived, california governor gavin newsom expressed his gratitude. this is what friends do. this is what relationships are all about. friends in need, being there for one

liz: fallout of judge aileen cannon blocking jack smith and stopping jack smith's release of the classified documents report attacking trump. fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett taking on the latest unconstitutional move and trying to hurt the incoming trump white house and latest fireworks in the fight involving judge merchan and trump and that new york case. plus this story. liz: thatches mark zuckerberg slamming trump in 2016 and now he says he's going to stop censorship on facebook and that really hurt conservatives. does ned ryan trust mark zuckerberg? ned ryan is going to take that on but first this story. president trump's wide ranging 70 minute press conference today, a departure from president biden who rarely took questions from reporters. president trump is set to meet with republican lawmakers tomorrow at mar-a-lago and to hammer out one big beautiful bill on tax cuts and energy and more. nate foy is live in west palm beach, florida, joining us now. nate, you got your questions in at the press conference. how did it go today, nate? reporter: hey, liz. right now president trump

but smith opted not to.litically motivated and deranged. >> i defeated deranged jack smith. he is a deranged individual. >> reporter: smith says trump's claim that he was influenced or directed by the biden administration is in a word, laughable. the former special prosecutor dropped his case after trump won reelection, citing policy prohibiting a sitting president from being subject to criminal prosecution. california democrat pete aguilar, who investigated the january 6th riot as part of a house select committee says if smith had been appointed sooner, trump might not have avoided trial. >> the january 6th committee did a lot of work on the front end, and we would have liked to see things move a little faster. >> reporter: before the clock ran out? >> before the clock ran out. >> reporter: smith's report also says when trump publicly attacked witnesses and investigators, trumps followers would then threaten them. trump has also talked of locking up some members of congress who have investigated the attack.

that's not what jack smith says. what he says here is the same thing that every prosecutor has to say before they charge any case, which is the evidence is sufficient enough that a jury could convict. you have to make that finding as a prosecutor before you charge a first year drug case or before you charge the former president with a vast conspiracy. so it's a really important nuance, but it matters. he's not making some bold prediction here. oh, if we went to trial, we would have won for sure. what he's saying is the evidence was enough that we could have gone to a trial, and a jury could have convicted. that's different than saying a jury would have convicted. >> fair enough. i do want to ask you about the other special counsel report that classified documents case. why haven't we seen that released? or will we ever. >> i'm starting to doubt that. i mean, the justice department's position right now is that the public should not see the other report, the classified documents report. the justice department's positio

in fact, smith writes, but for mr. trump's election and imminent return to the presidency, the office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial. let's talk about this. joining us right now is cnn legal analyst elliot williams. thank you so much. elliot, for coming in. can we let's start there with that statement. what is jack smith trying to get at? explain that for us. >> what? yeah. what jackson is getting at is there the standard for conspiracy against the united states or conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, which are the things that they said they could have convicted donald trump on? the legal standard was met based on the facts they had. now, what they're saying is that we just can't charge a president with a crime through long standing justice department policy and some reading of decades, if not centuries, of existing law. it's just not probably not possible to charge a president with a crime. now, the question is why is someone above the law or

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jack smith says there is a through line to his 137 page report.p's criminal efforts was deceit. knowingly false claims of election fraud. and the evidence shows that mr. trump used these lies as a weapon to defeat a federal government function foundational to the united states democratic process. the report describes donald trump as the head of the criminal conspiracies and their intended beneficiary. in a four page letter to attorney general merrick garland accompanying his report, jack smith says that the investigative and prosecutorial teams he assembled, quote, are people of great decency and the highest personal integrity. the intense public scrutiny of our office, threats to their safety, and relentless, unfounded attacks on their character and integrity did not deter them from fulfilling their oaths and professional obligations. these are intensely good people who did hard things well. i will not forget the sacrifices they made and the personal resilience they and their families have shown over the last two years. our country owes them a de

jack smith added a personal note about donald trump's attacks on him. me well, the claim that mr. from mr. trump that my decisions as a prosecutor were influenced or directed by the biden administration or other political actors is, in a word, laughable. joining us now is neal katyal, former acting u.s. solicitor general and professor at georgetown law. also with us, andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he's an nyu law professor. they are both msnbc legal analysts. andrew, you have participated in writing such reports. what is your assessment of this one? >> in terms of the substance? it is a sober, dispassionate recitation of the facts and the law. it is now public. it is something that everyone can read and i commend everyone to do that. i did want to focus, as you have lawrence, on the four page letter. that's an easy thing for people to read that it starts the report and it's beautifully written. it is personal in tone, and it talks about not just what you've outl

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and we didn't from jack smith. he played it as straight as he. there was never any editorial in any of his press conferences. they were lasted 10s never heard any leaks from his team. and i think this was his final word. and i think probably if he's willing to admit it, he felt it was justified to maybe let a little bit of his own something some of the words he wanted to say, which is basically that the biden administration didn't control me. merrick garland did not control me. these were legitimate prosecutions, and i believe they were warranted irrespective of who the defendant was. and in this case, the defendant was the former president, president elect, and then soon to be president in a few days. i thought that was very interesting, that he sort of it was sort of like it was the last day of school, and he felt emboldened to maybe just say a few things just before he leaves. and that was my sense, my takeaway, especially in the introduction that he penned to merrick garland. >> msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos joining us with short notice.

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he called jack smith a lame brain prosecutor. all along donald trump has alleged that this was a political democratic effort led by president biden to in his words weaponizes the justice department against him. did jack smith address any of that? william: he did. he reiterated this quite a bit in his report. smith goes to great lengths to reject the allegation writing "nobody was in the department of justice ever sought to interfere with or improperly influence my prosecutorial decision-making. " smith writes throughout that the decision in this case, and in all of them, was his and his alone. he writes "the ultimate decision to brings charges against mr. trump was mine. it is a decision i stand behind fully." on the issue that president biden himself was somehow a puppetmaster in this smith says "for anybody who knows me, they know that idea is, in a word, laughable." amna: this report covered the january 6 investigation. there was another investigation by jack smith enter mr. trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents

. >> deranged jack smith. he's a deranged individual. they brought this moron out of the hague. his picture was perfect because you look at his picture, you say that's a bad guy with his robe, his purple robe. we had a brilliant judge in florida that saw right through it. why should he be allowed to write a fake report? it'll only be a fake report. >> all right. joining us now to discuss kevin fry, washington correspondent for spectrum news new york. one. kevin, good morning. nice to see you. so my read of this is yes. this report contains a lot of information that we have learned through other places, whether it was what they released as they were, you know, trying the case in october, whether it was from the january 6th report. but what this does amount to is a pretty sweeping defense of jack smith's decisions to charge the former president and to lay out to people what he believed he had that ultimately would have absent trump. winning the election resulted in a conviction. >> yeah, his belief spelled out i

smith: governor? mr. reagan: when i opposed medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the congress. i happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. i was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. i was opposing one piece of legislation versus another. there is something else about social security. of course, it doesn't come out of the payroll tax. it comes out of a general fund, but something should be done about it. i think it is disgraceful that the disability insurance fund in social security finds checks going every month to tens of thousands of people who are locked up in our institutions for crime or for mental illness, and they are receiving disability checks from social security every month while a state institution provides for all of their needs and their care. mr. smith: president carter, you have the last word on this q

this jack smith. what else is he going to do?nd don't forget, it's merrick garland's doj policy that he enforced. >> that stopped jack smith from even continuing with the case until trump's fired him, which i would prefer that let trump pick his ag and then fire jack smith. and that becomes a big news story. he took that away, merrick garland, by saying, no, the internal memos, you have to drop the case. and that's what jack smith said in his filings. >> so let me get your thoughts. since you made this appeal to jack smith or anyone working in his office to release to you the dean of radio.com, that's my email. why is it important to see the report? what is it from either from a legal i mean, we all know from a public perspective why it's important, and certainly for the sake of transparency in our democracy to know what it was that jack smith was basing his arguments, legal arguments, legal charges on. but from your point of view, from your vantage point of view, explain to our viewers why this just seeing this report would be i

the justice department tonight releasing jack smith's final report. smith saying he believes there was enough evidence to convict trump. but that vetters re-e legged him to the white house instead. >>> the developing headline at this hour. the american hostages, and will there be a cease-fire between israel and hamas, and is it close? ian pannell and what he's learning right now. >>> back here in the u.s., that outburst in court with caitlin clark's alleged stalker. what he's accused of doing. >>> princess catherine's new message about her cancer battle, declaring she's in remission. the first time she has used that word. >>> and america strong tonight. the firefighters and what they have found buried in the ash. there were tears, and this is really something. >>> good evening. we do begin tonight with two breaking stories. the tense moments on capitol hill. president-elect donald trump's pick for defense secretary grills. >>> but we begin with 12 million people in southern california on high alert right now, an extreme fire risk. winds up to 70 miles

this is the words these are the words of jack smith. but he's also you can tell sending this out, obviously, to donald trump again, knowing full well that that's what the consequences of what of what these two prosecutions are. >> he knows full well that everyone's going to be dissecting every single word, looking for every little kernel of indication, either to support what they believe about him or to undermine what they thought they knew about him as well. in fact, i want to do we have the table of contents, just to give the audience a little bit of a sense of just how how thorough this is going to be. it's over 130 pages. this is one of the two volumes he goes through, not only his own personal, you know, stance as to his integrity as a prosecutor. as evan was talking about. and he's trying to convey, but also about the reasons for their decisions to go forward with cases, other considerations as well. i want to bring in senior legal analyst elie honig into the conversation as well. elie, you know, we have been watching and waiting

jack smith does the claim from mr.my decisions as a prosecutor were influenced or directed by the biden administration or other political actors is, in a word, laughable? that's notable because we heard nothing from jack smith over the course of this investigation. >> jack smith behaved like a by the book prosecutor at all times. and one of the things that people like me heard about jack smith when he was first appointed to the job in november of 2022, is that he had a reputation as a bit of a maverick, or even a little bit of a cowboy, that he was not a partizan, that he had been, for example, one of the lead prosecutors in the john edwards case, which ended unsuccessfully but nonetheless was involved in prosecuting a former very prominent democratic elected official and presidential candidate. that was something that his supporters kept bringing up to show jack smith is no crazy partizan. he's someone who prosecutes where the facts and the law lead him. >> lisa rubin, thank you very much. i'm sorry for the coughing.

jack smith thinks he would have gotten a conviction. aside from that, what is your takeaway from what you are have digested? >> jonathan: this report is vintage jack smith. it shows disregard to the supreme court. he dismisses both decision, one dealt with obstruction and one with immunity. he minimized those. he aadopted view of jackson on obstruction. that was a view no one joined, it was just justice jackson. he said, i can still argue obstruction. this report says more about smith, reads like a defense argument than a prosecution argument but he is defending himself. he says it was laughable he was engaged in politics. we saw everything in this report before he released much of this before the election. none of us could understand releasing it publicly except to influence the election and it did not work. >> lawrence: he wanted the rest of the process, he knew what would happen if donald trump was elected. he addressed the peaceful and patriotically remark that the former president made and his response was he said to fight by fight

now jack smith wants to have his parting word with a report. it's not unusual for special counsels to put out reports. this is a bit unusual in this case because the support, harris, and everyone on the couch, is the president that will take the oath of office in those plan two weeks. so judge cannon told the justice department to hold on on releasing the report until the 11th circuit court of appeals makes some sort of decision. it's unclear -- and i want to know if -- and speaking to sources, doj is holding off on releasing any parts of the report because they don't know exactly what this order means. so we're told jack smith is preparing a lengthy voluminous report in two sections, two volumes, and judge cannon in the 3-page order says that the doj is being told to hold off on releasing any reports until the 11th circuit court of appeals weighs in. harris. >> harris: just quickly, and forgive me if i missed this in your reporting, what is the time period for something like that? could that kind of an appeal happen before january 20th? >> abs

smith writing it has long been that the constitution forbids indictment of a sitting president. for mr. trump's election and imminent return the office assess admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain conviction at trial. that is common refrain from pros prosecutors, they believe in their case and will let you know. trump responding on truth social, deranged jack smith was unable to prosecute for his bos crooked joe biden. the voters have spoken. trump saying it is laughable to think the biden white house influenced prosecution of donald trump. more on this as the story develops. meantime, senate confirmation hearings will begin in a few hours starting with defense secretary nominee pete hegseth. >> carley: madeleine rivera is live right outside the hearing room, good morning. >> madeleine: good morning. th things could get testy when pete hegseth appears before the armed services committee in a few hours. democrats are expected to grill pete hegseth on number of issues, his qualifications, expressing concerns if he would be able to lead the federal government's largest agenc

smith is right.ceed with a prosecution under the rules. and but at least this information is out and will be part of history and hopefully will help in avoiding a recurrence of that kind of activity in future years. >> what does it say? i just asked officer fanone this question, but what does it say about the country that the people who need protecting are the people who brought these facts and this information to the country? and if you're offered protection in the form of a pardon, would you take it? >> well, i haven't talked to the white house. i haven't sought a pardon, but whatever president biden decides is wise, i'll respect. i mean, we did nothing wrong. in fact, we did the first act of righteousness, which was to uncover this wide ranging plot with trump at the center of it. you know, the president could decide that even though what we did was righteous, he wants to prevent harassment, not just of the committee, which were fully protected under the speech or debate clause, but also the witne

let's talk about jack smith's jack smith's resignation.as a little confused earlier because i thought there were two separate reports, but it's one big report, but two volumes, one on the january 6th investigation, the other on the classified documents case. we are waiting. well, actually, as early as tomorrow, if the 11th circuit court of appeals does what it does, it's the january 6th report that we could see tomorrow. what exactly might we see? right. >> so if i can take 30s to just step back and about how we got here because jack smith just we just learned that he resigned. right? i was at doj when garland appointed smith to the position. he did. so this is november 2022, jonathan. he did this just days after trump announced that he was going to run for president. and he did this to reassure the public that whatever prosecutorial decision was appropriate, that it was indisputably determined by facts and law, not politics. so fast forward to where we are right now. jack smith did his job. facts and politics. facts and law got his decisi

chief smith: thank you, director sundberg. i am pamela smith, chief of the washington, d.c. police department. let me begin by sharing some comments about the tragic incident this morning with the three officers. i'm main to say they're doing ok. such an unfortunate incident when the officers are responding to a particular location based on a call and this kind of incident happens. thank you to those agencies and department heads who have watched out and continue to keep our officers in prayer as they journey to their space of good health. to talk a little bit about the national special security event with the 2025 presidential inauguration, what i will say is that there are no law enforcement agencies that are more unified than those trusted with securing the presidential inauguration. and i would like to thank everyone who is here today that have supported this city for their collaboration. our message today is very direct. we're prepared, the men and women of the metropolitan police department, d.c. government, and our partner, are fully prepared for the 60th presidential

is there -- >> well, i don't know if it would be jack smith himself. might have been there. but no, they will not be e-mailed a document like this. they will be given an opportunity to review a document probably in hard copy format to make sure nothing's wrong, nothing's inaccurate, nothing misstates the law, or if they have a huge problem with it that they want to just appeal to the attorney general they'll have an opportunity to do that. but no, it happens all the time where you'll bring someone into the justice department to review a document live. >> ultimately if there's a part of it they don't like that's going to come out and they go to appeal this, this is going -- >> appeal's not the right word. >>> it is ultimately from the justice department. this is our

now, special counsel jack smith has resigned.ly expected ahead of trump's inauguration and truly marks the end of an unprecedented chapter of investigations and criminal charges against the former, and soon to be president donald trump. joining me now, charles coleman junior msnbc legal analyst, former prosecutor and host of the charles coleman podcast. and jill wine-banks, former assistant, watergate special prosecutor and co-host of the sisters in law podcast. great to have both of you with us. charles, i'll start with you. i mean, your big takeaway from this weekend of news. we'll start with the resignation. i mean, that in itself is not surprising. we knew that was coming, but it also comes on the heels of the sentencing. and now, of course, we are awaiting this report from the doj. it seems like, legally speaking, that has been cleared for it to ultimately be released. >> well, i mean, one of the things that i think about when i look at the huge nexus of cases that donald trump has faced over the past few years, i cannot hel

i mean, jack smith's report is pretty clear. this man did attempt an insurrection.er than face just the rebuke of even a trial, he essentially walks clear from it, and now he gets to come back in surrounded by other people who also pushed the big lie. pam bondi is about to probably be the next attorney general of the united states. she's the one who got rudy giuliani to get involved, right? he is the one who got these 1500 people to commit the crimes they did. they're all apparently going to walk away free for it. and i wonder what that says about our democracy. >> yeah. look, any time criminal conduct is excused, it it is erodes the rule of law. i think there's a broader audience for that report. there's a broader audience for the work the select committee did. and that's history. that's posterity. right. it's important to have an accounting of what happened in the short term. it did not result in accountability to the people. president trump and the others in the report. but it does matter historically. and the work that we did on the select committee was, was the

they are claiming, of course, look, special counsel smith can not do any of this. if you are not qualified to actually be amounted then you can not use what you learned while you were actually the special counsel then put it out into the public square as if you had every right to put it out there in the first incidence. finally, arguing this would undermind the ability to have a peaceful transition and easy time for trump to be able to govern over the country. why? because they believe that it will cause a program. they believe it will cause a stigma. they believe he will have this weight of the allegations contained in the special counsel report used against him in a way that it is a distraction to otherwise being able to govern the country. it all kind of flows together. the arguments of todd blanche on behalf of donald trump, president-elect and of course counsel for the two remaining codefendants who argue that because of their title as a cospirittor co-conspirator can not have it taken away from trump and have a fair trial. they believe, finally, the special c

jack smith and others who may be subject to political prosecutions.cated upon law and facts. they're predicated upon who's your enemy, who's not? who do you like, and who don't? i think it really is troubling and problematic, the time we're in, and we might see before he leaves office, biden taking some steps to protect people who have worked for him like garland who we just saw, the attorney general, and of course, jack smith, the special prosecutor.÷÷it's real. >> yeah. for sure. all right, so joey, just briefly, rudy giuliani being held in contempt because he hasn't turned over his various assets to the election workers ÷÷that he has been convicted of defaming. what's next there? >> reporter: yeah. so what's next is that there will be a trial to determine, you know, just backing up very briefly, kasie, what happens is ÷÷this is a distinction between winning a civil case, and we know that udy giuliani was found liable for defamation for the tune of $240 million. there's a distinction between monetary judgment and collecting the judgment, and so here

special counsel jack smith in his final report that he's expected to issue on his investigations into trump's attorneys now responding. we have more right after this quick break. z's bakery is looking to add a pizza oven, arissa's hair salon wants to expand their space, and steve's t-shirt shop wants to bring on more help. with the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee, they can think more about possibilities for their business and not the cost of their internet. it's five years of gig-speeds and advanced security. all from the company with 99.9% network reliability. get the 5-year price lock guarantee, now back for a limited time. powering five years of savings. powering possibilities™. >>> breaking news. as we have just learned from a filing that donald trump's attorneys, and attorneys for his allies, have now reviewed special counsel jack smith's report that he is preparing to publish as soon as in the coming days. my legal source tonight is the former federal prosecutor elliott williams. elliott, we had you booked on something totally different, but this came down. and we'r

smith put together a two volume report on his findings.avid spunt takes a closer look at what we're learning and what is still classified. >> strong reaction from republicans after the release of former special counsel jack smith's 2020 alleged election interference report involving president elect donald trump. volume one of the report went public just after midnight on tuesday. it details how smith approached the case and why he decided against charging trump with insurrection for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election results. >> this is truly an outrageous political use of the department of justice and is frankly, sick, smith writes. >> he decided against the insurrection charge due to it not being well tested in courts. he refuted republican claims that his investigation was political or influenced by the biden administration. smith is convinced he would have received a guilty verdict had the case gone to trial, writing, quote, the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial. while republican

trump filed a motion to ask the district judge to block smith. the special counsel's office is required to provide a report to attorney general merrick garland. he can choose to make it public. mr. trump's lawyers sent a letter to garland, asking him to stop the report's release, which they believe is imminent. the justice department did not respond to request for comment. >>> this legal fight unfolded on the same day lawmakers gathered to certify the election results. garrett haake has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: in a joint session lasting just 40 minutes, congress counting state electoral votes. >> donald trump with the state of florida received 30 votes for president. >> reporter: certifying the sweeping election victory of president-elect donald trump who takes office as the 47th commander in chief. as president of the senate, vice president kamala harris overseeing the certification of her own defeat. >> donald j. trump of the state of florida has received 312 votes. kamala d. harris -- [cheers and applause] kamala d. harris of the

shortly after midnight, the justice department released a report from special counsel jack smith. in it, smith says that if the election had not stopped the case from moving forward, there was enough evidence to convict president-elect donald trump. the report says that not only was mr. trump's voter fraud narrative objectively false. he knew that it was false, and he inspired his supporteters to commit acts of physical violence. president-elect trump responded early this morning on socicial media saying, quote, deranged jack smith was unable to successfully prosecute the political opponent of his boss. he called smith a lame-brained prosecutor who was unable to get his case tried before th election, saying the voters have spoken. mr. trump has long condemned this investigation as political prosecution but in a letter with his report, jack smith says to all who know him will, claims that he was influenced or directed by political actors is, in a word, laughable. >>> let's turn to capitol hill where senate confirmation hearings are about to begin. today could be a make or break mom