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and so, as snowe goes, many ways probably health care reform goes. so she will be a good guest for you when she arrives. >> savannah, let me ask you about this paying for health care reform, expected to hear more from the president about how they plan to pay for it right? >> i think we will hear more details on that. look, i mean, the president laid out in the very beginning when he sent a budget up to capitol hill how he proposed to pay for health care reform, $635 billion in a reserve fund but his initial idea went nowhere, reduced the limit on charitable deductions for the wealthiest taxpayers, can't deduct as much as before. that idea went nowhere. my understanding we will be hearing something new from the president, a lot of different proposals floating around there on capitol hill. tonight, we expect the president to come down and say this is how i think it should be paid for. >> interesting, thank you very much. nbc's savannah guthrie. thank you very much. >>> we are now join bade republican senator olympia snowe, she has been working with the

republican senator olympia snow is here in the studio. the demonstrators who poured on to the industries of washington yesterday capped off an angry summer. it saw the president's popularity go down as tempers went up. even on the floor of congress where a back bencher congressman called the president a liar. as the president was calling for unity. i want to go first to david axelrod this morning. mr. axelrod, what do you make of this demonstration yesterday on the streets of washington? do you think it's indicative of the nation's mood and what message do you have this morning for those people who were on the streets here yesterday. >> first of all, bob, i don't think it's indicative of the nation's mood. in fact i don't believe that some of the angriest, most strident voices we saw during the summer were representative of the thousands of town hall meetings that went on around the country that came off peacefully, that were constructive. people voicing their points of view. but one of the great things about our country is people can exp

talks to olympia snowe all the time.etings he's doing, trying to patch together this whole thing. and then when they're not worried about that, you've got david axelrod making sure the massachusetts state legislature keeps moving that bill along so he can try to find yet one more vote because they're worried about -- first of all, it tells you they're worried about 60. this whole idea of reconciliation, i actually think that's really, really not as -- they're not going to do it that way. >> david, of course, we're hearing the name michael dukakis as a possible replacement for senator kennedy. >> right. he is certainly among the names of people who would be a good care taker until a special election after the first of the year. other names have been mentioned as well. but the priority for now the late senator kennedy and for his colleagues, his democratic colleagues, is to make sure it's a reliable democratic vote on health care. just to add on to chuck. i agree there's no question that all along, all this talk about reco

a little bit of snow today. the winter storm warnings out there now.is definitely a possibility. that's one storm wore watching developing. the other one is the old one from the last couple of days. now in northern parts of canada. pittsburgh back to philadelphia. and down towards d.c. cloud cover is out there. take you live to washington. here is what the white house looks like. still dark out there. temperatures around the low 07s. look at that. looking at the lights popping up here. clouds are going to be the main staple of your forecast today. also, scattered showers are possible later this afternoon. but no heavy downpours. i think just kind of goes in and goes out with the upper-level low towards the north. what about behind that? to the west. cold temperatures, frost advisories, areas shaded in light blue, freeze warnings. temperatures around here all below freeze when you get outside of the major cities. even green bay flirting with that freezing mark and 32. currently see being 34. rain showers, thunderstorms off the coast of florida on the gu

chuck todd's snowe meter. tell us what to look for in olympia snowe's reactions tonight. >> reporter: we talk about the public option. olympia snowe is the first one -- she takes credit for the idea of the trigger. to explain the trigger, that's this idea where basically they would pass a health care reform bill and they would be open to the threat, basically, government would be telling the private insurance companies we are leaving the option open we will institute a government-run insurance program if you do not meet these specific goals, if you do not meet this number of -- you know, you don't do what these reforms are supposed to make you do then we'll start this public option. she's the one that came up with this idea. she talked about it earlier on our air here on msnbc that this is the way that she sees as a potential to bridge the divide. you have ben nelson, a conservative democratic senator from nebraska who has expressed openness to the trigger if, in his words, it's a real trigger. so, you know, t

john: name a state known for getting lots of snow. >> alaska.zzer] john: ok. all righty. ok. time ran out, but that's ok. you have a partner for that. an occasion that women look forward to much more than men do. you said a wedding. all right. survey said... yeah. all right. good. very good. good start. something that's associated with ballet. you said the ballet shoes. survey said... oh! now, that's surprising. that's a good answer. i'm surprised that wasn't said more of. on a scale of 1 to 10, how intelligent are most politicians? you said 50%. [chuckles] survey said... [buzzer] no, no, no, no, no, no. on a scale known for-- excuse me. name a state known for getting lots of snow. you said alaska. survey said... yeah. all right. and finally, name a fruit with lots of seeds. that was the question we never got to. you didn't give an answer, so there are no points, but that's all right. you have a partner for this. we'll clear the board. ok. kim is here. zakiya only got you 32 points, all right, so 168 are going to have to come from you before we

olympia snowe is the most likely to do that.side from simply putting a bipartisanship on, she could be critical to getting a filibuster. democrats would rather not have to use the special procedures we talked about on the air from time to time called reconciliation where they could jam it through with a majority, simple majority of the senate. if they have a vote to get past the filibuster and hold 59 democrats and add only olympia snowe, then they could do what they want to do in terms of the legislation. can they get her to do that? there were positive signals that suggest she might be willing to go along. >> yeah, i'm going to pick up a chunk of the interview and see your reaction to that. >> a whole bunch of democrats and one republican, olympia snowe. is that a bipartisan bill? >> obviously, i'm a republican, but i'd like to have more republicans -- >> you'd like to, but do you have to? >> i'm going to support the right policy. that's what guides me and governs me. it always has. >> i'm curious how fine a line she's walking

they were there this afternoon. >> and, mary snow, everyone, mary snow joining us from new haven, connecticut, there at the yale medical school. mary, what do we know about who lives in the residence? >> reporter: all we know is that it's believed -- there was nobody home, so we cannot absolutely 100% confirm who was in that home. it is believed to be the home of a yale lab technician but, again, police are not confirming this is part of the murder investigation. >> joining me right now pat brown, criminal profiler. author of "killing for sport." you know, pat brown, right when annie le's body was found, there were numerous reports thrown out there there was construction going on in the building. translation, a construction worker did it. a street or day laborer. that was put out there almost immediately. but when it came out her body was stuffed inside a wall in a basement for only a few yale insiders had access, it became very clear that it is going to be most likely a yale insider. you just can't blame all the construction workers that were hired to work at yale. >> right. and here's the t

nelson goes with snowe and maybe something to that with lieberman. lieberman, by the way, was a huge player for this white house in getting snowe and collins to sign on to the stimulus bill. so lieberman is a bigger player here sometimes than we realize. >> so let me just underline that and put an exclamation point after what you just said this is a significant development that has just happened. that means now that there is a republican behind this bill, a lot of people were panning baucus bill, no republican support, now there is some republican support? >> let me clarify here. >> yes, clarify. >> let me clarify, in the way they commend the bill, not saying they support it, but come on, we know what the hidden message is here, basically, olympia snow is signing on with a group of three other moderate democrats saying, okay, i can work with this bill. >> pretty significant. nbc's chuck todd with that new information. chuck, as always, thanks so much. >> you got t. >>> let's take that new information and to the bigger picture now. michelle obama will

carrie, group of four and snowe is one of them and they all say the baucus plan has the potential.e a statement from them. they say -- now, we know that all four senators have been skeptical of that public option. baucus' plan has a co-op and a.b. said this is going to change. what do you think we'll see? >> i think what senator schumer said last night was important. we've heard a lot of people griping about the bill, raising objections to it within the democratic party. but after this closed door meeting with just finance committee democrats, chuck schumer and senator baucus came out later and said we're going to pass a bill next week that can get 60 votes on the senate floor. which is so important in terms of understanding their strategy because that means we may see amendments on the public option possibly, we may see amendments on other on the progressive wing of the republican party but some strategy they will not allow essentially amendments to pass in committee that could hurt the chances of getting 60 votes for the bill on the senate floor. so in a lot of ways, they are dev

and it was snowing in colorado yesterday. denver had the first snow of the season. don't want to hear any complaints. >> no whining here. >> no whining, first things first, today is the last day of summer or first day of fall. >> this afternoon. >> at 5:19 this afternoon the autumnal equinox. it normally means equal day and night. so it will be a few more days until we get that 12 hour day. the next three days upper 70s to 80 today. a slight chance of a shower today and tomorrow and on thursday a chance of thunderstorms, 85. the rain chances any of these days only talking 30, 40%. not everyone will see it and today's chance is mainly west. i-81 to points west. moms like me.com bus stop forecast, mostly cloudy and comfortable. low 60s to the low 70s. then this afternoon, not bad but not as pretty as the last few days, mostly cloudy, isolated showers, 75 to 80 with southeasterly wind at five to ten miles an hour. cloudy and isolated shower tonight. lows in the 60s. southeast winds an five. here we go. clouds are out there. not too low on the clouds as you head to west

there is your rain and snow delay. more in just a bit, natasha. >>> a california family is having trouble with a very determined burglar. a bear has been breaking into their house night after night. . >>> a terrorism suspect accused of planning an attack in new york city has pleaded not guilty. nauj zajibullah zazi was arraig yesterday. he plotted to make explosives and possibly blow them up on the 9/11 anniversary a few weeks ago. >> he is expected to make the announcement at the national institutes of health. the money comes from recovery funds and should support tens of thousands of jobs. >>> a former democratic fundraiser will spend more than 24 years in prison for fraud. hsu swindled people out of $20 million and told some their money would be in jeopardy if they did not support candidates he supported. >>> and some of the headlines we're following for you this morning. welcome back. i'm natasha curry. robin meade is on assignment today. >>> we are following some breaking news right now of a powerful earthquake th

straight ahead, my interview with maine's owe listen ya snowe. what she's hearing from the white house and what she needs in a bill to be able to support it. >>> plus, a view of the president that divers sharply from some of her republican colleagues. >> gotten an impression that he would probably do less with more. >> do you see him as a moderate? >> more moderate than liberal. >> the other big issue on the president's plate, how to win in afghanistan. this week, i asked the president whether we could meet his goals without more boots on the ground. >> i assure you that if that were the case, you wouldn't see 68,000 of our young men and women deployed in afghanistan, they would be back with their families and their loved ones. >> all that, plus imagine being afraid to give your child a bath because it might put them at risk for cancer. an emotional journey to one west virginia town. good day, everyone, i'm john harwood of cnbc and the "new york times." this is the "new york times" special edition on msnbc. >>> on the front page this hour, senato

it is a speech to an audience of one, to olympia snowe.rectly yourself or have you all a left that just to max baucus? >> i can tell you max baucus as well as the others conrad and senator bingaman have been working with her a long time. she has shown extraordinary courage and leadership. she told her the bottom line. they are working with her. no commitments have been made, understand. at the end of the day we think there will be more than one republican senator joining us. we certainly hope so. this should be a bipartisan effort. we have given republicans every effort to help us craft this bill. we want to get it done on a bipartisan basis. >> senator, with all the focus on republican opposition to the public option and other elements it has masked how difficult your job as whip is in getting over 50 democrats to vote for any version of this thing t. truth of is you have democrats in your caucus not ready to go to the public option and not ready to go to the employer mandate and some of these new taxation elements invented by the ways an

let me talk mary snow, again, joining us from new haven.the first thing i heard is, oh, there's construction workers. yeah, let's push it off on them. i'm not buying into that. that may very well turn out to be the case, but let's not forget who would have known this building so well, who would enter known about the basement, who would have had -- somebody earlier, maybe it was rupa who said you have to have key access down to the basement, other than a co-worker? one of the yale family. >> reporter: right. someone who knew that area very well and could gain access to that area. so you're absolutely right. that's why so many people here agree with you is, you know, they think that all evidence is pointing toward an inside job. >> everyone, joining me right now is a very special guest, esteemed forensic scientist, he is known worldwide. he is a distinguished professor at university of new haven. we all know dr. henry lee. dr. lee, it is wonderful to see you again. i only wish it was in person. dr. lee, what would forensic investigators be ho

number one, snowe is in play. that and sort have seen it but this is her one public way of doing it. second, is that the democrats are going to need her, the president is going to need her to keep all of the democrats together. but take a listen to what olympia snowe said yesterday about her openness to the bill. >> obviously, i'm a republican but, you know, i'd like to have more republicans. >> you'd like to, but do you have to some. >> well, no. i'm going to support the right policy. i think that is what guides me and governs me. it always has. and i think the right policy will garner the votes. >> so as i said the end game is here. we see -- i think we all know how the movie is going to end. the question is what is going to be in the final bill? the movie is going to end and snowe is going to support it and democrats looking like they are coming together. but are they going to do to satisfy both snowe -- keeping snowe on board and keeping those that are in favor of the public option happy? how that compromise i

several inches of snow fell on this last day of summer. and while it's not the earliest day for snow in history, last year's flurries first fell in november. and now for a look at your national and regional weather, here's nbc meteorologist ryan phillips with yo weather channel forecast. ryan, good morning, and i hope this is not a sign of what's to come. >> no, we hope not, lynn, but it's not uncommon for snows to fall in the rockies this time of year. now the first day of fall. most of the country, though, feeling like summer still. nasty storms moving into the lower mississippi valley. but the good news this morning, starting to see the rain shutting down here across northern georgia into the atlanta metro area. most everything holding off to the north at this hour. first thing this morning, though, eastern north carolina, wilmington, and up towards raleigh, over to greenville. first thing this morning, few isolated showers and thunderstorms, could see one to two inches of rain there, but otherwise a cloudy start to the morning. 69 in a

it's olympia snowe. she's from maine. she's a moderate. she has quiet power over the whole debate. she's been talking to the president on the telephone and giving advice. he needs to drop the idea of a government run insurance plan and start where there's agreement and build from there. if they could win over olympia snowe, it could give cover to moderates of both parties that are unsure. they do not have olympia snowe's vote, but she's continuing to talk to the president about compromise. all eyes will be on her tonight. >> it brings us back to the white house and savannah guthrie. we're talking one republican senator om maine. we are talking act what's been dubbed the public option. kelly described it the guaranteed government backed insurance notion. that is really the technical term that a lot of the issue turns on tonight. >> reporter: it does. we will continue to see the president walk the careful line on the public option. he's going to make a strong pitch for it. it's the best way to increase the insurance market that will bring down costs. he's not going to make it a deal

snowe was interval to that gang six.nt, and i think that the obama administration cease her nota just as a free agent but as the 60 vote. they're on the 3 yard line. olympia snowe is key to that. >> you saw rockefeller there, we have to have this but be together. so see certain weakening on the left there. >> pat, you're a former white house communication's director. >> right. >> you know how this game is played. >> right. >> how about the president of the united states going out and doing five sunday shows? >> i wouldn't do it if i were here. i would put him on one. i would have put home a dated show, it's a top show. five show it's. >> and david's show is the best show. >> right. >> but they will ask him, what do you think of jimmy carter? what do you think of the instability going to? what do you think of this? and all of those things are frankly hotter seubjects for th evening nights for the bites than on barack obama more on the public option, which excuse me, is a bit of a bore by now and all of those are interesti

. >> reporter: maine's olympia snowe is the one republican on the committee that may vote for the bill. >> in that light, the mark before us is a solid starting point, but we are far from the finish line. we simply cannot address one sixth of our economy and a matter of such personal and financial significance to every american on the legislative fast track. >> reporter: snowe has offered an amendment making government- run public insurance an emergency option if coverage remains too expensive for some americans. the so-called "trigger" option would set up a government-run plan in any state where affordable coverage was not available to 95% of residents. >> she's very much engaged and on board with where they are. >> reporter: health care economist len nichols, who heads the health policy program at the new america foundation, says senator snowe could be the lynchpin for more republican support. >> i think senator snowe's idea of a trigger-- that is to say, a possible competing plan be brought into some markets, not all, but some markets, if there aren't two competing plans that offer

. >> you're going to tell me about the snow. >> snow, yes. snow levels about 6,000 feet.d see one to two feet of snow at the higher elevations between today and tomorrow. tomorrow, of course, the big labor day holiday. we'll see a lot more of the same across the southeast. a little more widespread into the ohio valley and the pacific northwest being rainy and very cool. everybody else looking pretty good. >> everyone will have to spend a lot of time indoors together. thanks jackie. >>> from the speech this week to school kids to a controversial adviser's resignation to backlash over health care reform, is the white house starting to show signs of vulnerability? i'd spend class preoccupied, bothered by itchy eyes. but now i have new zyrtec® itchy eye drops. it works fast, with just one drop, to relieve my itchy eyes from allergies for up to 12 hours. no other allergy itchy eye drop works faster or longer. which is good, 'cause there's a lotta paws to shake. with new zyrtec® itchy eye drops i can love the air™. (announcer) find it in the allergy aisle next to other zyrtec®

republican senator olympia snowe. here's the report.ello, john. >> the senior republican from maine may be the most important member of the u.s. senate on health care. she's not yet saying how she's going to vote but everybody is looking for signals and body language as to whether she wants to work with barack obama and democrats to get this dpen done. if you want to see a reason for the white house to be optimistic, consider this signal she sent when i asked whether she consider os bama a big government liberal? >> it's interesting, i don't. almost the opposite. he's been very realistic in his views on health care, understanding the implications. >> do you see him as a moderate? >> more moderate than liberal. >> are you satisfied that the cost control, cost containment in the bill is adequate? >> i do. and, you know, we were odd manhattan in our -- you know, our positions and views that it should be budget neutral and if anything should bend the cost curve. and then the overall cost of, you know, the escalation, you know, of inflation

if olympia snowe gets her way, jay rockefeller will vote against the bill. if jay rockefeller gets his way, olympia snowe will vote against the bill over the public option whether it will be real and in place or triggered. the other one that's been ignored is blanch lincoln. she is possibly the most conservative democrat. she's from arkansas. she's in a tough re-election situation there next year. she has not been forced to comment and take hard positions on any of these things. she has come out against the cap and trade bill passed by the house of representatives. she is definitely the one to watch in terms of the ability to be peeled off by republicans for some of their amendments and possibly vote against this bill on its way to final passage. if chairman baucus loses jay rockefeller for final passage of the bill in the committee, he needs every democrat. he can't lose one. blanch lincoln is very iffy. >> senator lincoln with a huge ratio of health sector donations compared to overall election donations. thanks, lawrence. >> thanks. >> for more on the 564

so senator snowe has always been pivotal., because she may have some influence with other members of her party or she may be the symbol of bipartisanship that the white house might be looking for. >> so let me put up that graphic again of the gang of six. and you're talking about having three republicans, three democrats. you know, i don't know. maybe was it a week ago, kelly, when it looked like their dealings had really hit the wall and then over the weekend max baucus goes back and said, okay, let's rework some things. here's what i don't get. say they get senator snowe on the side of reform. how does she then help break the broader log jam in terms of getting enough support for a bill in the senate to pass? >> reporter: well, that's really a difficult question. because many of her republican colleagues in some ways view her as sort of a democrat in republicans' clothing with if you know what i mean. because she does often stand with democrats on some of these bigish isgis issueissues. she's a vote often they can count on.

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panning the view, that is snow. snowing in the high country of western colorado.utiful thing or what? the streets are dry but as you can see at least the sidewalks and some of the trees got a little covering. this morning, they are at 28 degrees. why do i show that you? because our 63 in perry hall, 64 rock hall, not too bad. we got some patchy fog and we'll make it to 77 as fall arrives this afternoon with some spotty showers. not too bad there, kim? >> no. the sight of snow actually makes me cringe. i'm allergic to winter but we don't have problems here. 95, volume starting to build pretty early as you approach the whitemarsh boulevard area making your way down towards the 695/895 split. no problems to let you know about along 695. however, we have some issues still in dundalk, broening highway remains closed at avon avenue. if you're driving a truck, and trying to get to the marine terminal you have to get off at the keith avenue commit in order to get there. in middle river, wilson point road and dark head cove road closed in the westbound directions, two-way

any way we can get a whole lot of snow. >> that is right up topper's alley. coming up we are going back in time. way back in time to the prehistoric year. walking with dinosaurs is coming back to life at the verizon center. we will take you there coming back. >>> i'm howard bernstein with your living green tip of the day. a leaking faucet can waste up to 100 gallons of water every day and a running toilet can waste two gallons of water a minute and that adds up to 7000- gallons each month. so, try to repair any drips and leaks quickly. that will save you some money and save a precious resource from going down the drain. you can find more tips at wusa9.com. just click on living green. >>> they roamed the earth $65 million years ago but you can walk alongside them again today. the show "walking with dinosaurs" opens. lindsey mastis takes us to a show of prehistoric proportions. >> reporter: most of us would imagine this is what a real dinosaur would look like. minus the platform underneath. >> there is actually a driver and chassis that drives them around on st

our mary snow is tracking this developing story live from new haven, connecticut. mary, what's the latest on the investigation this morning? >> reporter: well, kiran, all indications are that police are zeroing in on a suspect, but, officially, they will only say that they do not have a suspect yet in custody. this as police have been saying

including charles grassley and olympia snowe, have not signed on to this. they have signaled that they may not, and as a consequence of that, the absence of republican votes prompted senate majority leader harry reid today to say that they could use a tool called reconciliation to get it through with 51 votes. here is how he put it. >> i hope that we do not have to do this. but if we can net -- cannot get 60 votes, we would have no choice but to do reconciliation. i strongly favor the bipartisan approach. >> that is what they all say, that they favor a bipartisan approach. but right now, reconciliation would really and republicans. -- really anger republicans. even some democrats do not like it. shepard: why bother with a compromise? >> now begins the problem with democrats, who are expressing misgivings over the cost of

lighter rain and the heavier and looking around the area, 1.5 inches of rain since midnight south of snow hills, 4" of rain over to the eastern shore, elkton 1.5. bwi .6" and about the same in hagerstown. up in northeast maryland, seeing some advisories in effect. until 2:00 or so, the flood advisory in effect, seeing the rain taper off and that will mean less and less effects of all of the moisture. talking about moisture, keeping an eye on the tropics and have some activity and for more, to marty bass. >> good afternoon. it's been a while since we discussed with you fred and for good reason. fred is closer than to the vir islands. we're not putting a time line on fred. wind at 86 miles per hour, as long as you have an active storm, every once in a while, we have to talk about it but frankly, it would take a dramatic change in steering currents to bring fred anywhere near us, put us in harm's way. the question is, when is this wanting to be a tropical low, how is the weekend going to be. any change in the outlook? tim williams with some details for tomorrow and sunday coming up shortly.

senator snowe has said that this is inadequate in terms of subsidies.er provision where employers would only have to pay back the government not a mandate that employers who don't insure people have to pay, but just those who hire people who need a subsidy. that's a recipe for not hiring poor people. i don't think this bill will go through the way it is. i don't think it should go through the way it is. this raises enormous problems if it passed in the form it's in now. >> sometimes i think these senators that are on this gang of six, they don't get the intensity of the american people and the demeanor just has not been there the way it should be. this is an interesting sound bite from senator baucus on exactly how these meetings have gone. here it is. >> the tone is also very modest and moderate. no fireworks, no anger, no bitterness, acrimony from any direction. i don't see major changes. i do believe very much by the time we vote this bill it's going to have some republican support. it just takes a little time to make some adjustments, modifications.

the last day of summer brought snow to the mountains in the western part of the state. it was accompanied by plunging temperatures, that forced people to bundle up. >>> now, for this morning's weather from around the nation. in addition to the drenching rain across much of the south, there will be lighter scheuers and thunderstorms in the carolinas and virginia. thunderstorms in parts of florida. scattered showers across upstate new york and new england. and showers east of denver. >> 50 in colorado springs today. 64 in albuquerque. portland hits 93. highs in the upper 70s for chicago, detroit and st. louis, today. and a warm 80 in new york. 76 for boston. 77 in baltimore. >>> and coming up this morning, a new look at how the recession has changed american life. >>> plus, new information on children and swine flu. what type of vaccine is right for your child? >>> and the global good-bye. when you can see the full, final performance by the king of pop. still haven't tried activia? listen to this story. my problem was occasional irregularity. my commercials didn't convinc

senator baucus has gone the extra several miles to work with three republicans -- senator snowe from maine, senator grassley from iowa, senator ensly from wyoming. i think that senator snowe is very committed to trying to see health care reform enacted, and i hope that in the final analysis she will support the bill. i think senator grassley and senator endsly have stated more substantial objections to what has been proposed. i don't know where they'll finally come out. >> is it worth getting passed, to your mind, without bipartisan support? >> oh, i think that the reform proposals that we're talking about here are very important to try to get enacted. i would prefer to see it done on a bipartisan basis. if that's not possible, i think clearly we need to see if the votes are there on the democratic side to enact this legislation or some major part of it. >> that raises serious questions, given all that we've seen take place in these crazy town halls over the summer. the issues you raise now about getting democratic support, is that a foregone conclusion? >> no, i would say nothing is

, and even snowe when i interviewed her this week said i want more subsidied for low and middle income people. can they find money for that? what do you think is going to happen on that? >> the other thing that senator baucus put on his bill that's a new twist is this big tax on what they call cadillac insurance policies. but they're really not that cadillac according to so many people. he's looking at an $8,000 policy for an individual. we know that many unions, the average policy in this country is up around $12,000. so it's a tax that could potentially hit a lot of people. to your question about is there room to increase thesubsidies, there's always room for a little bit of horse trading. we're really just getting into the fun right now. this is just the first year, what's called a chairman's mark when he puts down his ideas. all next week there's going to be all kinds of amendments going on out in public and bind closed doors. gwen: i think there is a sense that some form of this could get through but could it fall part? >> absolutely. think no further back than the clintons in 199

senator olympia snowe, she wants a triggered option, whatever that is. also the conservative democrats are somewhere to the right of that. for more let me bring in roger simon, chief political columnist for politico. roger, scorecard, one to ten tonight. how did the president do on his media tour yesterday? >> i thought he did very well. i don't know if i can give it a number score. it's somewhere around eight i suppose. you know, he wanted to go on and put health care on the front burner once again. he got a lot of other questions and a lot of other subjects, but he, you know, he put that in the spotlight. did he get closer to narrowing it down to what bill he would sign and what bill he would veto? no. so that is why i think you can't give him any higher score than he got. >> well, the president refuses to be demanding at this point. after there's a declaration that they've got to hit the reset button, after republicans have put a line in the sand. i mean, when does the president get demanding on his own party? i find this very interesting. from this s

might strike close to home to olympia snowe, lost her own mother at the age of 8 to cancer. also, olympia snowe is relatively safe politically, i think she is not up again until 2012. last two elections, she has won by significant margins. none the less, this is what we have seen, seen some of the groups go after moderate democrats as well in ben nelson. hard to see whether or not they are going to have an effect. it could backfire in some says, contessa. >> mike viqueira, thank you, buddy. >> you're welcome. >>> if you have groups buying ads, trying to persuade lawmakers, perhaps their money would be better spent on those moderate democrats who right now are the real obstacles to accomplishing public option, at least in the senate. >> at the same time, i think certainly keep an idea, running ads against fellow democrats isn't the best use of time and resources. >> is okay, she's republican, run all the ads you want. >> i guess. the bottom line, urging her to support a public option, which as you have mentioned, many moderate democrats don't support anyway, i don't think mos

snow? wow! >>> we are watching for terrorism charges for three suspects currently being held for lying to investigators. the investigators think the three may have plotted to use backpack bombs to attacked subway. and police may have blown the fbi's surveillance of zazi. >>> san diego police are investigating a shooting at the busiest border crossing into the united states. two customs agents open fire on vans accused of smuggling illegal agents as they stormed cross the border. >>> thank you, contessa. sarah palin, beefing up her foreign policy credits with a speech on relations. something she said that made sense. should she be speaking for america overseas, however. >>> and live coverage of the president at the u.n., 10:00 eastern right here on msnbc. we're back after this. money when you make money," tdd# 1-800-345-2550 he neglected to mention tdd# 1-800-345-2550 he also makes money when i lose money, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 withdraw money or do nothing with my money. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 tdd# 1-

we have a guarantee of eight snow day, i don't know about the rest for this winter. this afternoon 67, mostly cloudy, to partly sunny at time, the breeze gusting to 20. tonight we cleared out dropping to an average of 44, warmer by the bay and city but maybe upper 30s near the line. tomorrow upper 60s but with sunshine it should feel a lot better, and it could peak here the rest of the week, back to 70 as we head on in through friday, the increasing clouds will actually come with a chance of showers friday night through saturday and maybe even saturday night. by sunday afternoon although a good day to stay inside we should have improving conditions, and the low 70s through next week. everybody big wave we are live from hartford county. fifth grade rocks. back to you guys in the studio. >>> look at this. apples for this teacher, we will head over here, and hook them up with some apples. thanks for coming in. >> good morning. >> always good to see you. >> yes. >> what a spread n. is my favorite food in the whole world. >> the perfect fruit. it is always right. this is

mary snow, do we know anything about that?and 75 cameras produce an immense amount of videotape to go through. >> reporter: right. we don't really know the details, jean. and that is -- it's a good question. is there anybody else being looked at in terms of a bag being carried out? and as you mentioned, any vehicles leaving the building. we don't know the specifics. we just know that they're poring over those surveillance tapes. >> okay. to alan ripka, defense attorney out of new york. you know, alan, i have a very dear friend, and her daughter is a student at yale university medical school, and in fact the student body did not get an e-mail on this until yesterday. that's thursday. mid-morning. when you have a missing persons case, and especially when you have other students that maybe should have an awareness for their own safety, does that concern you at all? >> well, jean, this is an interesting point. because the bottom line is many people get lost or are not around or go out for coffee or go visit a friend. so what's a s

know, olympicia snow. talking health care, the baucus bill and the issues that still have to be addressed. >>> plus, mike huckman back. mike, what do you have today? >> no genitalia today, i promise. one of the three companies working on new diet pills. did the patients lose enough weight? we'll is ask the ceo and cofounder of arena cofounder of arena pharmaceuticals. ew job at the ry >>> welcome back to "squawk on the street." i am cnbc pharmaceuticals reporter mike arena is the last companies to unveil data on prescription diet drugs. the company met its goals and fda criteria. was this weight loss enough to sats fay investor appetite? joining me live from san diego in another first on cnbc is arena pharmaceuticals ceo and cofounder, mr. jack lief. good morning to you. >> good morning, mike. my pleasure. >> so patients on your drug, lorcaserin, lost 3.1% more of their body weight than those who took the placebo in this study. i know that you met another key fda criterion for approval. but is that weight

john harwood just spoke to senator elimb pi a snowe. >> reporter: maria, senator olympia snowe from maine continues to negotiate with her colleagues on the finance committee. she's not tipping her hand, but everybody's looking for signals and the way she might indicate how she's going to go. and one of the ways is how she sees obama and his overall effort on health care. i asked her first of all whether she thought barack obama like other republicans is a big government liberal. >> no, you know, it's interesting, i don't. in fact, obama's almost the opposite. he's been very realistic in his views on health care. understanding the implications. i get a sense that he does study these issues very carefully. he has a deep conversations with his staff who advise him on health care. he's told me on several instances where he has actually, you know, been reading the memos, studying the issues, and what's changed in various positions, concepts that we had been discussing within our group of six. so he seems to me to be very well informed, well briefed, well versed. seriously immersed in the issue

the mountains actually getting shrouded with a blanket of snow.hat is pretty common in colorado in the high country to get some snow. watch it pointed down towards their main street area. snow on the grassy surfaces, the trees. look at this latest image. the kids are still going to school. woodland park, colorado. 28 degrees. why do i show that you? their streets are wet, a lot of heavy snow out there, let's compare their 28 to 68 with our parking lot full here in veterans elementary school in ellicott city. obviously a contrast of recesses expected. we have a little summer heat trying to hang on. 69 baltimore. 70 easton. 77 ocean city. we have a really persistent southeasterly flow and that is dragging in to a lot of moisture here. this is really important. while we're watching some extreme flooding continue across the deep south it's high pressure that has slid off the new england coast, the same one that brought us the chilly mornings into the weekend. that is steering what was once a very powerful hurricane, hurricane fred, up to 120 mile-per-