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social security administration's databases are getting benefits. pector general says other agencies who rely on the social security's death master file could be making erroneous payments to these people. one agency that relies on the death data from the social security administration is the treasury. finish improper payments across agencies are a huge problem. the government accountability office says in 2023 there were more than $236 billion in improper payments made to people including dead people. >> when i saw thest numbers, i said -- the social security numbers, i said, wow, that's really something. we just go above 100 years old, we have millions and millions of people over 100 years old. everybody knows that's not so. how many of them were getting paid social security? if that's the case, it's a massive fraud. >> reporter: democrats are not cheering these changes. they think that the federal employees at doge might instead leak your personal information. if. >> there were thousands of people, and seniors came up to me and just said point-blan

social security? >> well, jose, as you mentioned, michelle king was the top official at the social security administration, and she retired after refusing to give musks team access to these sensitive government records you referenced. that's according to two sources, things like bank information, social security numbers, birth dates, in some cases medical records. and as you noted, the white house did confirm that king was no longer head of that agency. the president has nominated a new administrator for it. the white house press secretary said that the president has has directed doj to identify fraud at the social security administration. and as you noted, she said that team hasn't dug through the books there just yet. but it does suspect that there is widespread fraud happening there. and our team looked at an inspector general report, an audit last year that showed that over a seven year period, the social security administration made almost $72 billion in improper payments, as they termed it, a little less than 1% of the payments in that time period, seven years. the report also says that most of thos

he was social security commissioner during the biden administration. this weekend with the head of acting, head of social security administration resigning, apparently in some sort of clash over access to data and systems at the social security administration, access that the people who are demanding it apparently weren't supposed to have. mr. o'malley, it's really nice to see you. thanks tonight. thanks for being with us tonight. >> good to be with you. >> again, rachel. wish it weren't under these circumstances. so how do you want to unpack this? >> do do you know what the dodge group was trying to access at social security? that would have caused the administrator to resign? >> yeah. >> i would imagine that they were trying to go after personal identifying information on all of us. i mean, this is an agency that collects a lot of data. every job we've ever had since our very first job, they keep track of those earnings, and they're a lot of laws in place that protect the privacy of that information. in fact, the very first regulation social security

she is the oldest person in the social security administration we have people listed as 360 years oldrs old et cetera receiving social security benefits. what a waste of money. >> there's no question about it. this is exactly what doge was intended to do and what we wanted them to do i applaud what elon musk is doing i know the democrats are coming after him we had a hearing and energy and commerce and they were like president elon musk that's ridiculous this is taxpayers money it's democrats republicans and all of our money and we should be looking at it and using 21st century technology to uncover the waste fraud and abuse we have a bloated bureaucracy you know there will be waste fraud and abuse. maria: how does this happen and nobody noticed this until doge had to get in there. is there no checks on who is receiving our money, this is all taxpayer money. >> i think the technology in the algorithms and the type of checking that doge is doing and elon musk is using those type of procedures are uncovering it and that's what we should be using we should be using 21st century technolog

what is doge doing at the social security administration? overnight, we learned the top official at that agency resigned when doge tried to get access to a system that contained personal data, including americans bank information, their social security numbers, income and earnings records, marital status, dates of birth, and in some cases, medical records. what for? it is the same question we had yesterday with news. a doge affiliated worker wanted access to a database within the irs that contained americans tax returns, their personal id numbers, their bank information, their income, their home addresses. again, why? yesterday on fox, caroline leavitt gave hannity what is now. >> becoming something. >> of a stock answer for anyone worried about what doge is getting at. >> i've been fighting fake. >> news reporters all. >> day long here in the washington, d.c. swamp who are trying to fearmonger. the american people into believing that this administration is going after their hard earned tax dollars and. >> their hard. >> earned social securit

. >> president trump has directed elon musk in the doge team to identify fraud at the social security administrationhe books yet, but they suspect that there are tens of millions of deceased people who are receiving fraudulent social security payments. >> now, there are some. important parts of that. of course, inspector generals have often looked at this very specific thing. and just eight months ago, there was an inspector general report from the social security administration last summer in which they articulated that they found that there were 0.84% of benefits payments made were improper between 2015 to 2022. but in that very report, they found that most of that had to do with overpayments, not individuals who were, quote, dead. and one year before that, in 2023, there was another social security administration inspector general report that found that there were about 19 million individuals who were found to be on the rolls who were hundred years or older. but they found, quote, almost none of those individuals were still receiving disbursements of social security payments here. and so there is

as recently as 2023 the social security administration had 1800 people born before 1920 with no deatholder. >> how many of them were getting paid social security? because if that is the case, it is massive fraud. how many are being paid? i mean, may be millions of them. but it is a total fraud. also, a lot of the illegal immigrants in social security that shouldn't be there max. they were noncitizens eligible for benefits paid to social security administration and 365,000 noncitizens received benefits in december 2021 getting $500 a month. half of these people also collected an additional social security benefit. that is what we know about this happening illegally. democrats in the meantime not impressed with what doge is finding. they want elon musk to testify in front of congress. >> it is not even nonsense but they are idiots. this is nothing more than a money grab. till he has not out there trying to save money for the american people. that is not what he is doing. he has lining his pockets. elon, if you're watching, come through because of you haven't come through for doge yet. >

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so, aaron, tell us a little bit about this rift between doge and the social security administration. the top official at the social security administration, and she retired after she refused to give musks team access to these sensitive government records. that's according to two sources. we're talking about things like bank information, social security numbers, birth dates, some in some cases medical records. the white house did confirm to us that king is no longer head of that agency. the president has nominated a new administrator to fill that role. at the same time, the white house press secretary, caroline leavitt, did an interview last night, and she said that president trump has directed the doge team to go into that agency and to try to identify fraud there. i want you to hear a little bit more of what she had to say in that interview. >> they haven't dug into the books yet, but they suspect that there are tens of millions of deceased people who are receiving fraudulent. >> social security payments. >> that's exactly why these social security employees, i may add, are. >> digg

authenticated luxury resale shop, now with code tr20 for 20% off terms, apply. >> the social. >> security administrationf elon musk. department of government efficiency. nbc has learned the top social security officials stepped down from her post over the weekend, after she refused a request from musk dodge team to access the agency's sensitive government records. now, that's according to two sources familiar with the situation. one of those sources said some of the information involved included americans bank information, social security numbers, earnings records, marital status, dates of birth and in some cases, medical records if people have applied for disability benefits. joining us now we have nbc's von hilliard. he's reporting from west palm beach, florida, near mar-a-lago. former republican congressman carlos curbelo. he's an msnbc political analyst and in studio with us, paul butler, former federal prosecutor and professor at georgetown school of law and an msnbc legal analyst. von, we're going to go ahead and start with you. is this just i mean, at this point, is dodge going to dodge what is g

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new this morning, new resignations in washington, this time at the social security administration. sources tell the associated press that acting commissioner michelle king has stepped down over a request from elon musk's team to access social security recipient information. king's departure is the latest as concern grows about how musk and his people are operating. let's get right to cnn's alayna treene at the white house for the latest on this. elena, what are you learning? >> well, it's as you said, john. acting commissioner of the social security administration, michelle king, has resigned from her role after facing pressure from staffers working with the department of government efficiency to try and access some of these highly sensitive systems, you know, including social security numbers. et cetera. getting into some of that data. it's a trend we've seen now with a lot of these different agencies, a lot of these highly sensitive systems that these doge staffers are trying to gain access to, causing a lot of consternation among employees within the agency. but look, just to dig

musk gaining access to the most sensitive personal records stored at the irs and the social security administrationing tonight that that has resulted in a protest. resignation at the very top of social security. we've got the reporter who broke both the irs story and that social security story joining us next. stay with us. >> imagine a switch that could wipe your personal data off the internet with one click. incogni stops identity thieves and protects your privacy. turn on one switch to limit unwanted robocalls and spam emails, and. >> to reduce exposure. >> to data breaches. switch on >> to data breaches. switch on peace of mind. go (psst psst) ahhhh... with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary spraying flonase daily gives you long-lasting, non-drowsy relief. (psst psst) flonase. all good. grandpa used to play. when our hearing wouldn't allow us to use a regular phone, it made us feel isolated. >> it became difficult to. communicate with our friends and family. >> clear captions was an easy solution for us. >> clear captions provides captions on a phone. like captioning on your tv so you ca

president trump reportedly appointing leland dudek as act it is social security administration commissioner former lead head of social security administration resigned following a clash with elon musk over the weekend. doj also finding 4.7 trillion dollars in treasury pailts missing a tracking code supposed to have tracking code links them to each budget line-item, but they don't the code so makes that money nearly importable to trace doj pofrtdz on x, about symbol saying optional to fill in often left blank, saturday now a required field, chris. chris: reasonable to be required if you spend 4.7 trillion dollars should have to put a code in the idea country built an for about these, built on transparency saying we have person out there poking around, how many mba's has elon musk signed certainly keeping this confidential but i think country not going to tolerate it as continues to expose more and more corruption, idiocy 5 trillion dollars unaccounted for, 330-year old person, receiving -- that is generations of social security fraud, talking points going -- the democrats have to get eye boa

the social security administration's top official resigned, clashing with doj's employees over accesso records that include the earnings, benefits, even medical records of millions of americans. the white house says doj's moves are to make good on trump's campaign promise of slashing government spending. >> the american people are very supportive of the fact that doj's saving them billions of tax dollars. and we're just getting started. >> it's unclear what doge has found at the social security administration and what its employees ultimately got access to. several lawsuits are challenging doj's actions, and among the questions the courts will answer, what authority does musk have? the white house says musk has no formal authority over government decisions, though trump has widely regarded him as doj's leader. christiane cordero, abc news, washington. >> right. so what is the administration mean when it describes elon musk as a senior advisor with no actual or formal authority? someone who has been sounding the alarm over this arrangement is democratic congressman john garamendi, whos

reporter: acting head of so social security administration steps down, she has been head since january 21, trump's second day in office, and remember, this is an agency social security where elon musk claims that there are people who are over 150 years old long dead, born in 1870s, still receiving payments tthat is something that some coders, are disputing, they don't think that doge engineers are reading code right. but, elon musk is one with the president's ear, he is the one that president wants looking at this. and it will come out at some point, just is getting a little bit slowed down with these lawsuits. larry: i'm looking forward to 150 years, getting my social security check, you might make it -- >> only 150 years old they need the social security checks. >> we don't know what, it is interesting point. peter doocy thank you. >> to capitol hill, fox news chad pergram is joining us live, what is cooking? reporter: good afternoon, senate republicans aim to move their budget plan tonight, sets a framework for border security, the wall and money for the military. but ignored major

social security. the social security administration, ssa raising questions over mismanagement and signs of potential fraud. >> social security has a dead people problem and doge is trying to fix it. inspector general in 2023 found that the social security administration did not have a death date for 18.9 million people born before 1920. the social security administration says almost none of these 18 million dead people still alive in the database are getting benefits but the inspector general says because social security has not identified them as dead, other agencies who rely on their death master file could be making wrong payments to these people. one agency that relies on the death data is treasury. improper payments across agencies is a huge problem. government accountability office says in 2023 there were more than $236 billion in improper payments made to people, including people that are dead. >> president trump: when i saw the social security numbers i said wow, that's really something. so let's go above 100 years old we have millions and millions of people over 100 years old. everybody knows tha

he look z under a appreciate scandal with so mu social security administration. i at 135 years old are alive and getting social security checks. almost 5 trillion at treasury department. no one knows where wires go. it may be on the level but it may be a snafu, and usaid, and a lot more. he is doing this stuff, while that stuff. that we went through, i think that is extinguish. >> he w wears many hats, he got a judicial v victory today. larry: he can go anywheres in the government. reporter: i think fundamentally democrat outrage is more hysterical by the day. federalist 47, james mad madison said definition offertyranny. that is the fourth branch of government we have tried to curtail for years. no one made a dent, elon musk is that mind that could try to do it i think he is making headway. this is un there will be rogue actor that try to make trouble with trump, spending we en know where it has been, this is when elon musk is bringing to the table. applying his private sector experience at twitter he slashed 80% of workforce who was not pulling their weight. la

reporter: the acting head of social security administration stepped down and only acting head of ssa since january 21st and trump's second day in office. back in office. and remember, this season a agency and social security where elon musk claims there's people over 150 years old long dead born in the 1870s still receiving payments. that is something that some coders are disputing and they don't think the doge engineers are reading the code right and inputs properly, but elon musk is the one with the president's ear. he's the one that the president wants looking at all this stuff. and so it'll all come out at some point. it just is getting a little bit slowed down with all of these lawsuits. larry: i'm looking forward to getting my social security check at 150 years old. reporter: they're only 150 years old, he'll definitely need the social security check. larry: we don't know what he'll need. peter doocy, thank you so much. now to capitol hill and fox news chad pergram joining us live. what's cooking. reporter: larry, good afternoon. senate republicans aim to move the budget plan to

having a good morning to kick off with hot topic of the hour doming setting sights on social security administration, investigating what president trump called massive fraud. "fox business" hillary vaughn live on capitol hill with the latest. >> good morning, social security has a dead people problem and doge is trying to fix it but this problem, is not new the social security inspector general in 2023 reported that they did not have a death date for 18.9 million people born before 1920 social security administration said almost none of 18 million dead people still alive data bases are getting benefits not identified as dead means other on the grounds relying on ssa file could be make he go ronnous payments to people one agency that relies on social security death data is treasury the government acting office says in 2023 more than 175 billion dollars in improper payments made to people including, dead people, president trump says they are going to fix this. >> when i saw the social security numbers i said wow! , that is really something so we have, 100 years old, millions over 100 years old how man

we have found, even in the biden administration, they found that one social security number was used different people illegally. we found $8 billion of wages reported for people over age 100. that's in the biden administration. nothing was done. so if we shine a light on it in this administration and something is actually done to clean up the social security records, that will be a great thing. >> it's the risk of collateral damage. >> with personal data, i think pretty great. and i just think. >> contractors have always had access to data. >> i look you and i, but we all know that the and i use the word hatchet before they are taking operating with a hatchet when they ought to be operating with a scalpel. and i think it's entirely fair to say the level of care that we ought to want, and even shrinking the government is simply not there with the work that's being done. >> every election, people come to washington and they promise the people they were going to shrink government or find waste, fraud and abuse. it almost never happens. it's happening this time. that's why president trum

the social security administration's acting commissioner, michelle king. sources telling the associated press that king stepped down from her role over the weekend after refusing to provide doge staffers with access to social security recipient information. king is one of several high ranking officials who has expressed concern about doge staffers having access to sensitive government databases. the group also accessed a critical treasury payment system and has attempted to get access to the internal revenue systems taxpayer data. one of trump's top aides is attempting to assuage any concerns about that. >> can you. >> give assurances. >> to people who faithfully pay their taxes in this country? the doge isn't just going to go randomly sifting through the records and maybe come across the personal private records of a lot of americans. >> i can give absolute 100% insurance. i give you complete and total assurance on that point. >> joining me now, national political reporter for the hill. julia manchester. julia. good morning. thank you for being here. um, l

a major resignation at the social security administration. a key official quits over the actions of elon musk's team. and plus rescue. after a teenager was trapped in a mineshaft 50ft below the ground. sarah is out today. i'm john berman with kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. and the breaking news. we do have brand new video. we just got our hands on it, showing the moment a delta plane crashed and flipped upside down at toronto international airport. this is one of the new vantage point. you can see how hard that plane landed and the sparks. again, 18 people were hurt. incredibly, all 80 on board survived. and that's one of the new videos. the other one is this i'm just seeing it for the first time as well. let's watch. >> one. >> two three. >> dale ho. >> oh, oh. >> oh no. >> no no no no. oh, that's. how are you seeing this? airplane is crashing. two, three. oh my god. oh my god. >> what a vantage point that was. you saw the plane come down. we apologize for the profanity, but we just got that video in screening there for the very fir

but it's not just the social security administration. we've talked about doj's access at the irs, at treasury. and of course, this has been, um, you know, something that we've seen in the courts. many unions have brought, uh, concerns to the courts, raising questions about whether doge has the legal, you know, right, to have access to all of this information. so while all of this is playing out, we are seeing what we're seeing here at this agency where people are saying no resigning. and michelle king was one of them. >> yeah, we see it time and again. rene marsh thank you so much. appreciate it. in the meantime, there's another major departure, and this one is happening at the justice department. the head of the criminal division within the dc u.s. attorney's office has left her post. >> cnn's katelyn polantz is following this story for us. caitlin, do we know why she quit? >> we do. we're gaining some. insight into. that through our sources. >> this top. >> prosecutor, her name. >> is denise chung. >> she was. >> running the. >> crimin

having people who were actually dead listed as alive in the social security administration's database is a big problem, because even if they are not getting social security benefits, the inspector general warns that other agencies who rely on this database, like the treasury, could be sending checks to these people, as recently an 2023 the social security administration had over 18 million people born before 1920 putting them at 105 years old, as still alive. >> how many of them were getting paid social security? because if that's the case it's a massive fraud. how many are being paid? maybe millions of them, but it's a total fraud. also a lot of illegal immigrants are in social security that shouldn't be there. reporter: according to the congressional research service there are non-citizens eligible for benefits paid out through the social security administration, 36 5,000 non-citizens received these benefits in december of 2021 getting about 500 bucks a month, half of these people also collected an additional social security benefit and that's what we know about that is legal. democ

so what is happening at the social security administration? er: so over the weekend the acting administrator stepped down because doge tried to seek access to the social security administration's most sensitive data. so that includes birth dates, social security numbers, banking account information, you know, employment history. she said it's not proper for doge to have access, most people at the agency don't even. so then she was forced to resign. now there's a new acting administrator who says it's ok for doge to have access. he's given them read-only access, he says, and they are tasked with finding waste, fraud and abuse within the agency. but they seem to potentially misunderstand some of the numbers. so there's a lot of anxiety within the agency about what comes next, after doge has begun its work there. vonnie: what are they seeking to access, these doge staffers? what do they want to see? reporter: they want to see if there's anything they can glean about fraud, social security fraud, specifically is what they say. and elon musk has bee

the fire 6000 irs employees as a doge team finds $200 million in potential cuts at the social security administration. another 4.6 million active government credit card in circulation processing 90 million transactions worth $40 billion in fiscal year 2024 along. trump signing an executive order expanding the power over independent agencies and stopping federal funding for illegal immigrants as trump designates south america cartels as terrorist organizations. the president ripping ukraine president zelenskyy as vice president vance is warning him to stop badmouthing the united states. were following the fast-moving action all morning long futures or pulling back were expected to decline at the start of trading fractionally lower on the dow and the nasdaq walmart reporting fourth-quarter earnings, we have the numbers in will see if that's a market impact rates look like this, take a look at the tenure 4.53% coming down this morning as european markets are mixed the eurozone trading this way with gains in paris and germany the s&p 100 and lower, and asia right across the board. president trump says he

social security head this weekend there were more resignations today. what more do we know? >> reporter: let's just start with the social security administrationl stepping down and resigning is significant. there's 70 million americans who are receiving their social security payments and what we heard from karoline leavitt, the press secretary to the president, suggests that there are tens of millions of, quote, dead individuals who are still getting payments. now, there's a lot to that statement. she did not provide any evidence to that and, in fact, an ig report from the inspector general at the social security administration last ye found that .84% of the overall social security disbursements were, in fact, misappropriated or improper, but by and large those were overpayments to individuals, the inspector general found. they were not to dead people. but we will have to see what doge comes up with. another high-profile resignation was that of the head of the food division at the fda stepping down. in a statement the white house suggesting that they were seeking to put into these types of positions people that were aligned with the administra

and so these dodge employees, these social security employees are on boarding as social security administration employees, political appointees, and they have every right to administer president trump's agenda. and that's their main focus with this effort, not just at social security, but, of course, at every every agency. as you know. >> i don't want to give away the interview tomorrow with president trump and elon, but i can give a few headlines. there's no conflict between them. there's no power struggle. there's no ambiguity as to who the president is and what i observe, both in front of the camera and behind the camera, are people that had a great relationship. i don't want to give too much away. people will decide for themselves. you were there for a lot of it. you agree? >> i definitely agree, and i witnessed this relationship firsthand every single day in the oval office and at the white house. and president trump has tasked elon musk with administering his america first agenda, just like the rest of us who serve at the pleasure of the president, but most importantly, serve the american

i get the social security security administration is dumb, are they paying those people? lot of money going out from the social security administration. >> 70 billion waste a year. >> and i think the estimates from government accountability office is over 500 billion dollars in 40 years, 500 billion with a b. >> in how long a time? >> per year. >> per year on social security. >> no, on all-- >> on all government. >> on all entitlements, yeah. it sort of actually makes sense when you look at things from the top level $7 trillion in spending from the government. what percentage do you think is fraudulent? okay. exactly. like a conservative estimate of the $7 trillion, would be 10%, conservative. >> probably higher than that. a quarter on every dollar. >> and if it's only 10%, 700 billion in fraud. >> and it's easy to take advantage of the federal government. very easy. >> look at covid. everybody got rich during covid. it's unbelievable. >> we-- it looks like in terms of covid payments, there was something like $200 billion of covid payment fraud taken by fraudsters out of

social security that shouldn't be there. >> reporter: according to the congressional research service, there are noncitizens who are eligible for benefits paid out through the social security administrationts in december 2021 getting about $500 a month. half these people also collected an additional social security benefit. and that's what we know about that is happening legally. democrats, in the meantime, not impressed with what doge is finding. they want elon musk to testify in front of congress. >> it's not even just fares ifism, it's just that they're idiots this is nothing more than a money grab. he's not out there trying to save money for the american people he's lining his pockets. elon, if you're watching, come through, boo, because you haven't shown up to the doge -- >> that's right. >> -- subcommittee yet. >> reporter: there is an outside push for a doge dividend. all these savings divvied up and shared with taxpayers, but that would ignore the fact that we are currently $36 trillion in debt. cheryl? cheryl: something we talk about every day, hillary. thank you so much for that live report from capitol hill. want to bring in republican congressman from ohio and member of the h

but he has looked under a potential scandal a with the social security administration where people areolder than i am are still alive and getting social security -- you're supposed to laugh at that. [laughter] getting social security checks, okay? 13r5, really? okay. -- 135. almost $5 trillion at the treasury department where no one knows where the wires go. it may be on the level, but it may be a big snafu. and, obvious, the usaid, and there's a lot more. so he's doing all this stuff while he's doing that stuff that we just went true. and -- went through. and i think that's pretty special. >> he wears many hats, and i think he's a particular kind of centric genius who can do that. he got a victory today, so that's a good sign. larry: he can go anywheres in the government. >> and he successfully got all those dei contracts so it's less of a black hole for the taxpayer. that's a victory. but i think fundamentally, larry, the democrats' outrage, it's more hysterical by the day. you were mentioning alexander hamilton in your last segment? federalist 47, james madison said the definition o

and the resignations continue in washington as the social security administration's acting commissioner puts in her papers after refusing to give doege access to the agency's most sensitive data and records. ahead, how the white house is responding to the growing pressure. plus, american and russian diplomats at a roundtable in riyadh, saudi arabia, today hammering out the future of a possible peace plan for ukraine. but notably, no ukrainian or european officials were in that room. good day. i'm ali vitali in washington. we are currently awaiting an update from officials on the investigation into that terrifying plane crash that happened yesterday in toronto. you're seeing the podium there as we wait, but this comes as shocking. new video shows the delta airlines flight as it made that hard landing. here you can see flames erupt as the jet hits the runway and the body of the plane then rolls over. incredibly, all 80 people on board, including four crew members, survived and were able to evacuate the upside down plane. 21 passengers were hospitalized. thankfully, none of them critically

. >> they stage a protest on the headquarters of the social security administration, they chose that next target of doge, coming for american social security payments. despite the fact that donald trump denied any plans to do that. >> anytime you hear doge, the department of government efficiency, you just remember, it is the department of government evil. >> this is a recipe for corruption by the doge boys and the government. >> like a bank robber trying to fire the cops and turn off the alarm just before he strolls into the lobby. we will see you in congress and in the streets. >> they are looking for fraud and there's reason to believe there could be some fraud at that agency, nonprofit research institute, the social security administration dispersed to billion dollars in fraudulent or improper payments in 2022. democrats rebrand dogeither department of evil. david: see how that works out. dogee finding millions a reckless fema spending while hurricane victims say they were hung out to dry. >> it is infuriating to see millions of dollars going to someone who doesn't have a social

social security benefits. so first, at the social security administration. michelle king she had been at the agency for more than 30 years, and she walks away from her decades worth of service after clashing with doge. doge wanted to get access to sensitive systems within the agency that contain social security recipients. personal information from medical information, financial information. it's worth noting some 72.5 million americans get social security benefits from the disabled to children to retirees. and so it really raised some concerns with her as far as the access they were looking for and what they planned on doing with that information. of course, musk and his doge has said that this is all about identifying waste and fraud and rooting it out. the white house, in reference to her resignation, said in a statement that the president is committed to appointing the best and most qualified individuals who are dedicated to working on behalf of the american people. but then there's also the fda, um, that agency's food chief has also resigned. he actuall

president trump has directed elon musk and the doge team to identify fraud at the social security administration not dug into the books but they suspect there are tens of millions of deceased people who are receiving fraudulent social security payments so their goal going into the social security administration is to identify three things. first to identify duplicate payments and end them. number 2 identify payments that are going to deceased people who are no longer living and should no longer be receiving that money and number 3 to protect the integrity of the system for hardworking americans who've been paying into it their entire lives. rest assured to all of the people watching your show tonight if you paid into the system honestly you will continue to receive your social security checks don't buy into the lies from the legacy fake news media who are trying to fear you and scare you into believing otherwise. this is what we've seen them do about president trump for years with every promise he has maid. he is going in there to protect your hard-earned money that's the ultimate goal. >> speak

. >> tonight, the washington post reports the acting commissioner of the social security administration has left her job after clashing with the doge team. nbc news is confirming that and reports that the doge team wanted access to sensitive personal data. with that, let's get smarter with our lead off panel on president's day, melanie zanona, our newest nbc capitol hill correspondent. jackie alemany, white house reporter for the washington post and an msnbc contributor. and tom nichols, staff writer for the atlantic and professor emeritus at the navy war college. jackie, let's start with you. what can you tell us about doge and social security? >> yes. thanks so much for having me. >> it was. >> a great scoop by. my colleagues. >> although they. >> have, it is still unclear in this. >> moment about what. >> data musk associates. >> wanted at the. >> social security. >> administration or the exact circumstances that led to king's departure. >> but what is at. >> stake here is. the system that is responsible for managing the pensions of over 70. >> million. >> american seniors and a vast

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social. security administration. >> has left her job after clashing with. >> the. doge team. nbc news is confirming that, and reports that the doge team wanted access to sensitive personal data. >> with that, let's. >> get. smarter with our lead off panel. >> on president's. >> day, melanie zanona, our newest nbc. >> capitol hill correspondent. >> jackie alemany. white house reporter for the washington post. >> and an msnbc contributor. >> and tom nichols, staff writer. >> for the. atlantic and professor. emeritus at. >> the. >> naval war college. jackie, let's start. >> with you. >> what can you. >> tell us about doge and social security? >> yes. >> jeff. >> thanks so. much for having me. >> it was a. >> great scoop. >> by my. >> colleagues. although they. >> have. >> it is still unclear in this moment about. >> what data musk associates wanted at. >> the. >> social security. administration or the exact circumstances. >> that led. >> to king's departure. but what is at stake here is the system. >> that is responsible for managing. >> the pensions of over 70. >> million. >> a

>> president trump has directed elon musk and the doge team to identify fraud at the social security administration. number one, to identify duplicate payments and to end them. two, to identify payments going to deceased people who are no longer living and should no longer be receiving that money. >> dana, for democrats doge has become a dirty word but it is important to point out that people at doge are federal employees working alongside hundreds of federal employees at the social security administration and i.r.s. who have access to your personal information on a daily basis. dana. >> dana: thank you so much, hillary. for more on this counselor to the president alina habba. what about that guy, do you remember chris little? the guy who worked at the i.r.s. and ended up going to jail because he released trump's tax returns. and the left didn't seem to mind that at all. i just look at all of this and i think there is just a ton of lawsuits that you guys are dealing with. we can scroll through them for everybody to see. how do you keep track of this? >> white house counsel's office is doing an amaz

on fox, donald trump and elon musk did not explain what elon musk is doing inside the social security administratione internal revenue service. but we did get this. social security won't be touched other than this fraud or something we're going to find it's going to be strengthened, but it won't be touched. medicare, medicaid, none of that stuff is going to be touched. nothing. >> joining us now is senator ron wyden. he is the top democrat on the senate finance committee, which has jurisdiction over social security, medicare and medicaid. senator, i just played for you. the only policy words spoken in an entire hour long interview, and they are directly about your jurisdiction. how much confidence do you have in donald trump saying social security won't be touched, medicare, medicaid won't be touched? now that, you know, elon musk has gotten inside social security. >> well, first. >> of all, lawrence. >> they're already working on medicaid. cuts in the house of representatives. >> they've got. >> a big budget target. >> and. >> you know, the reality is. >> the enterprise. data warehouse. >> where th

a billion a year in the social security administration alone.o, when the "the washington post" comes out and says we're cutting the workforce by 25%, that's just 1% of our budget, sure, that might be salaries that, is not even touching that waste, fraud, and abuse. the inefficiency, the manila envelopes in mines, me having to spend months putting someone on a detention program to terminate them only to have them sue and come back reinstated. i can't overestimate -- i can't overstate the amount of money that your tax dollars goes toward securing and insuring that waste, fraud, and abuse. now, no more, thanks to doge. >> brian: here's what he said. this is the most important thing he said. i got to the point where i stopped some things that were necessary. i made a mistake and i fixed it. so if we do something, we fix it right away in real time. number two is, we don't have a choice. we have to cut the deficit. and there is fraud and abuse. not only fraud and abuse, this stuff is going overseas so at least if you are going to defraud the governmen

social security numbers and bank account information. president trump wants musk's group to find and eliminate wasteful government spending. the acting commissioner of the social security administration reportedly stepped down over the weekend after refusing to give doge access to sensitive personal information. it comes as a federal judge held a hearing yesterday on a request from 14 states to block doge from accessing sensitive data and firing employees at several federal agencies. the states are seeking a temporary restraining order to the judge said she would issue a ruling within 24 hours. >>> hey, hey, ho, ho, elon musk has got to go. >> also, protests called no kings on presidents day, against musk and president trump's actions were held across the country yesterday, including outside the u.s. capitol. >>> diplomats from the u.s. and russia are meeting this morning to talk about ending the war in ukraine, without ukraine at the table. secretary of state marco rubio is leading the u.s. delegation. the talks are taking place in saudi arabia, but all of europe, including ukraine, have been frozen out of the talks. that led french president emmanuel macron to convene an emergency

and that is exactly how michelle king, who has been with the social security administration since 1994, took office. but when michelle king was forced out of that office, the line of succession was violated and donald trump appointed another social security employee, leland dudek, as the acting commissioner of social security. after leland dudek posted favorable comments about elon musk's so-called department of government efficiency on social media, leland dudek was a senior advisor at social security for the office of program integrity. that means he was an it guy. the it guy is now the acting commissioner of social security, the single biggest item in the federal budget, way bigger than the defense department. there was no reason to believe that this day could ever come. yes, republicans opposed the creation of social security in 1935 by president franklin delano roosevelt, following the design for the program created by the first woman member of the cabinet, secretary of labor frances perkins. republicans insisted that it was out of control, socialism and unconstitutional. frances

social security administration's. >> rolls. >> but they are not necessarily dead in that database. but notably, it says almost. none of that. 18.9 million americans above 100 years. >> old is receiving. >> social security payments. and were they they say that would not be fraud. it would simply be wasteful spending and needs to be cut back. they say only 89,000 americans over the age of 89 right now receive social security payments. jose. >> and so, david, just your thoughts as a former member of the house, when we see that town hall where people essentially ask and directly confront the congressman, their congressperson, i'm just wondering, do you think this is something that could have continuing deepening of this kind of, i guess, backlash? you know, something like, you know, what happened in 2010 or in other places? >> sure. >> i would say first, as a former member, i would. >> say, where. >> is the congress right now? i mean, the power of the purse originates, frankly, with the house of representatives. and the budget. that was written and passed and signed into law was approve

the social security administration's top official resigned, clashing with employees over access to records even medical records of millions of americans. the white house says doj's moves are to make good on trump's campaign promise of slashing government spending. >> when you look at some of the waste, fraud and abuse that's being uncovered by d, they're finding levels of fraud and waste and abuse like i think nobody ever thought possible. >> it's unclear what doge has found at the social security administration and what its employees ultimately got access to. >> these individuals are political appointees at the respective agencies. and any cuts, any firings, any hirings are at the discretion of the secretaries of these agencies. they are all cooperating with doj's efforts to cut federal government waste, fraud and abuse. >> several lawsuits are challenging doj's actions, and among the questions the courts will answer, what authority does musk have? the white house says musk has no formal authority over government decisions, though trump has widely regarded him as doj's leader. christiane