like his plan to abolish social security and medicare. you haven't heard about that because his republican opponents haven't bothered to actually read the 9-9-9 plan. here's what it says about social security and medicare. for the generations of workers who have paid into social security and medicare, the federal government's inevitable failure to pay them as they retire is undeniably stealing. these are generations who have worked and sacrificed to leave this country a better place for their children and grandchildren, as they retire. the current behavior of an out of control federal government does little to ease they're minds. the federal government has imposed expensive and often counterproductive social and welfare programs on the states and the people. it is time to admit the mistakes and get the federal government out of the way. this will allow states, cities, churches, charities and businesses to offer a helping hand instead of a handout where they live. people closest to the problems are the best ones to solve the problems effect

historically did well at the polls because like santa claus they give people stuff like social security medicare medicaid unemployment insurance food stamps all i kind of stuff you know and so he said republicans could play santa clause too by giving people big gift of accidents and as an added bonus for republicans more tax cuts they gave people particularly rich people and the bigger our national debt would get eventually getting so bad it would force democrats parachute santa clause to kill off social programs because we just can't afford any. so following june when she strategy since one thousand nine hundred eighty one republicans ran up huge massive deficits thanks to massive tax cuts all the while not saying one word about fiscal responsibility reagan tripled the national debt george w. bush had or other six trillion dollars to it and republicans in congress as it's just five is ok with everything it was the plan after all they were the tax cuts santas and then as soon as a democrat gets in office suddenly the world is ending in the dark huge debt debt run up mostly by republicans followi

and then when it comes to social security medicare you know the democrats are ideologically opposed to that that's a specific thing we're obama would lose voters they would actually come out and say no no no we don't want that so he's not going to move that. to the center of this particular thing so really we're just talking about discretionary spending very mother codes i want to ask you one last thing too if we go back to these agreements with south korea panama and colombia why aren't these treaties and why why is this just some kind of agreement that doesn't require that two thirds vote in the senate like a treaty does will because you have to do what you can do to get it so that i just change the name technically to an agreement although in essence is still basically the same thing as a treaty i mean it could be a treaty but then you have to get the two thirds majority in the set it would they be able to do that i think that they would be able to get with korea but the other two i'm not really sure look at libya as one that you know there's especially been a lot of democratic oppo

i want to protect medicare, social security, and medicare.mises have been made and they need to be kept. >> why are you running, joe? what made you decide to run? >> well, there's a couple reasons. i'll give you three real quick. one is i want to show the american people and the people in the great lake district that i can run, win, and serve, not compromise the integrity or principles. the second reason's jobs, man. we have to have jobs in this area. union, non-union alike, we need jobs. and the third reason i like to push are veterans. our veterans need to be taken care of. the promises made have to be kept. and those are three issues right off the top of my head. i can give you many more. but you know, i want to promote american people over party politics. it's got to be done. the republicans, democrats, they seem to serve themselves, and i'm sick and tired of it. i want someone that serves america. and unfortunately, not enough of us are stepping up. so i'm going to step up and serve. >> do you think that the three trade bills that the re

democratic members of the so-called supercommittee proposed major changes in social security, medicarecaid spending. something democrats in general strongly opposed. as part of the effort to revive the failed barack obama/john boehner budget negotiations of earlier this year, the supercommittee democrats put forward a $3 trillion package in deficit reduction over the next ten years. that package included about $1.2 trillion in tax increases. a nonstarter as far as the republicans are concerned. but democrats for their part say that any cuts in social security, medicare or medicaid spending would have to be balanced by at least some tax increases on the rich. the six democratic and six republican members of the committee have until november 23rd to come up with a plan to cut at least $1.2 trillion over 10 years. if that doesn't happen across the board budget cuts would be triggered including on domestic and pentagon spending. i haven't given up complete hope yet. at least on a deal coming forward by these 12 members of the panel. i must say i am becoming increasingly gloomy. fred, back

we'll have the same speaker and that is one of the two trustees of social security and medicare, onee public trustees. these are the folks who are national experts on the subject. they're the ones that prepare the report for congress each year, the status of the program and the problems facing it. they're going to talk about those problems, the proposed solutions and how they might affect older adults, and younger adults a well. >> so many people have questions and they don't know how to get answers. if they come to this expo and talk and listen to your speaker and there are all kinds of experts that are going to be there that will be able to answer their questions. >> he'll be able to answer the questions and hear the comments and suggestions. it's very important. it's not a common thing where you have the opportunity to interact with someone at that level. i really encourage people to come and enjoy the whole event. >>late give the time and the hour -- let's give the time and the hours, october 30th is boston common mall from noon to 4:00. >> right. as you pointed out, that include

about not declining when they reach social security and also what would happen if social security programs were cut? what happens is the eligibility age for medicare goes from 65 to 67, what would your best guess be to the implications of that? >> what we talk about social security because social security is there to assure the a baseline income for older people and has done its job. it's reduced poverty rates for older people fairly steadily since its inception. clearly if people don't have social security to go to you would see a different pattern and the poverty level at age 65 and over. but something you have to worry about in the social security and you be included to this earlier with the cost of living increases is older women in social security have higher poverty rates than the average that we reported for every one of 65 and so a concern in anything that might have been with the cola is what would happen with of those older women who in their eighties may find themselves in poverty. now i cannot comment on the increase in the age for medicare. that is completely outside of my area of expertise, but i can say that of the things that you h

amazing the misinformation that's out there ability republicans and our attitude toward medicare and social security. in fact, it's republicans who have a plan to save medicare and social security and that's what i tell seniors. but they've heard that the congressional budget office has projected that medicare part a would be bankrupt in 10 years. and they know they've paid into these programs and they're relying on them to provide critical medical care for them when they need it. but in the past congresses have taken a pass on reforming these programs, to keep them solvent for both today's seniors as well as for future generations who are currently paying into them like we are. but the house republican path to prosperity budget plan provides a way forward. it ensures that medicare lives long past 2020 when it's now projected to be bankrupt. the republican plan is my -- as my colleague from north carolina said, does nothing to impact medicare benefits for anyone 55 or older, but it will improve the program so that those 54 and younger will have access to the same kind of health care program enjoyed

poverty rate not declining when people reach social security, and what happens if social security was cut, what happens if the eligibility age for medicareoes from 65 to 67? what would be your guess be about the implications of that? >> let me talk first about social security because social security is there to assure a baseline income for older people, and it's done its job. it reduced poverty rates for older people fairly steadily since its inception. clearly, if people don't have social security to go to you, you would see a different pattern in poverty levels at age 65 and older, but something you have to worry about in social security and you eluded to this earlier with cost of living increase z 1 that older women in social security have higher poverty rates than the average that we reported for everyone over 65, and so a concern in anything that might happen with the cola is what would happen with those older women who in their 80s may find themselves in povertiment now, i can't comment on the increase in the age forever medicare. that is completely outside my area of expertise, but i can say that the things that you hear from olde

social security cht he was going to present a plan on entitlements. today, governor perry is saying here's my plan with support to help medicare, personal accounts to helps no specific alternative, credible plan. i think what governor perry is showing is that he is willing to offer a different vision for america that involves more growth, that doesn't involve us spending more tax dollars to washington, d.c. doesn't involve borrowing over a trillion dollars from the chinese to sustain a level of spending we have not had historically. right now, if we do nothing, the social security trust fund will be gone by the time i'm ready to retire and last year for the first time, social security in a long time paid out more than it was going to take in. in reality, that was not going to change in the near future. we need a candidate, a president, who's willing to tell us specifically the hard truth it's going to grow our economy again. >> thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you, wolf and you've got an open invitation. >> come down to baton rouge and visit you. congratulations on your second term. >>> stand by for some remarkable images as rescuers go through

santa clause strategy as in give people stuff that they were not like unemployment insurance social security medicare the forty hour work week safe workplaces clean air and water the minimum wage but the american people needed they got and they got it from the democrats play in the world of sound but thanks to a strategy laid out by reagan advisor jude when in ski more than thirty years ago democrats are on the verge of shooting santa just as when he had planned as i've talked about on this show numerous times when is he encouraged republicans to play santa by giving people tax cuts and run a massive deficit so that when democrats eventually came into office there would be a so-called debt crisis and democrats wouldn't be able to give away any more stuff . in fact the so-called debt crisis would be so bad the democrats would have to play scrooge and take stuff away start cutting the social safety net eventually they'd have to shoot santa reagan dutifully ran up more debt in eight years than every president from george washington to jimmy carter by herbert walker bush followed reagan's lead adding tri

she was recently laid off from her job at central falls housing territory and relies on social security and medicare. rita would not be able to afford her cancer medication without the support of medicare. we should do everything we can to protect and strengthen social security, medicare and medicaid for seniors like rita all across this country. our seniors deserve and have earned the benefits provided in these programs. they deserve to live their retirement years with dignity. we should not ask seniors to sacrifice benefits or asking the wealthiest americans and largest corporations to pay their fair share. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise to honor the 39 wounded and the memory of the 18 killed who were aboard the u.s.s. cole who were killed by terrorists this day 11 years ago. i had the privilege of representing norfolk n

and if you tie at least that amount of spending cuts with real reforms on social security, and medicarerties want, yeah, i think that's the right recipe. and our thought is, if they can do tax reform and do it right in this timetable, fine, but frankly most members of the super committee don't have the knowledge frankly or the expertise to do it. >> there are reports confirmed by nbc news that republican members of the super committee are talking about tax reform as a componentç and in particulars much as $200 billion in more revenue by broadening the tax base. does that appeal to you? >> it depends what the broadening entails. i think right now too many of the committee have been stuck on energy taxing u.s. energy companies or corporate jet owners, silly things. if they've got a serious plan that broadens it responsibleably, i think members will look at it. tax increases themselves are a nonstarter. >> and do you think we're going to ends up trying to find ambiguity and agreement by the republicans agreeing to some sort of tax reform that includes dynamic scoring and democrats saying

afraid that president obama was elected to defend and ideally expand a social safety net like social security medicare is in fact starting to destroy that remnants of a once great social safety net so people of all ages are afraid and they're taking positive action which is very difficult to do when they're when they're disenfranchised from the political system today so i mean i think that you know it's a conference franchise mint and you know i do believe that we're going to see some positive change whether it's enough. to placate again this growing and vibrant movement i cannot say occupy wall street in boston the real tea party according to jason praimnath editor and publisher of open media often thanks so much thank you. and thinking with occupy wall street new york of course the birthplace of this movement but it's not just a movement they're a group of people say they want real change in this country and their demands are starting to even be shown around the world r.c. correspondent on the stasi a church going to take a look at one of the faces in the crowds who's helped to get other faces in th

they have backed away from savaging social security and medicare but these are all, they all want to increase military spending. we're spending at cold war rates of military spending and going all over the world. you cut taxes, you claim that you're going to protect social security and medicare and you increase military spending. they are going to really make the military the volunteers, volunteers in a sense that we won't be able to pay anybody. we'll have to volunteer for people to give us bullets and volunteer people to fly planes. the illogic is incredible. how do you justify that and cut how do you substantially increase the largest single item in the discretionary budget, and cut taxes, but say social security and medicare will be fine? >> last night, congressman, david they were supposed to stick to economic and, of course, michele bachmann couldn't avoid religious concerns. here she is passing what even my producers think was a joke. i don't think so, talking about the sign of the beast which i learned from some of these characters is apparently 999, herman cain's economic pr

social security. >> social security, medicare. so that 15.3 becomes 9%. that's a 6 percentage point differential. it for 25, 50, doesn't matter. you now have -- they will pay in taxes based upon standard deductions, standard exemptions, making $50,000 a year, family of four, they pay over $10,000 in total taxes. go to the 999 plan. they're going to pay $4,500. they have a $5500 gap to apply to the sales tax. if the person applies that to both new and used goods, they will come out just fine. >> is there any exception, as you see it, in this consumption tax? except for clothing perhaps, except for food? would food be a consumption -- >> no, you don't have to do that. >> no food. clothing? >> no. because that 6 percentage point difference makes up for a lot of the sales tax that people will have to pay. here is the thing that people don't -- >> i'm sorry, i think i might misunderstood you. you would make an exemption for food and clothing? >> no. you don't need those exemptions. >> so we're all paying the same amount for groceries. does that sound right to you, just in a vacuum? >> yes, if they are

how do you justify that and cut taxes and say social security and medicare will be fine? >> last night, congressman, david they were supposed to stick to economic and, of course, michele bachmann couldn't avoid religious concerns. here she is passing what even my producers think was a joke. i don't think so, talking about the sign of the beast which i learned from some of these characters is apparently 999, herman cane's economic program turned upside down, 666. let's hear her brand of humor. these michele bachmann desperate. >> when you take the 999 plan and you turn it upside down, i think the devil's in the details. >> yeah. >> what would you say if you are debating a person like that if w.h.o. shifted the topic to the strange far right christian notions about the devil and the sign of the beast? she can't resist that catnip. >> i guess if i were debating her, not just debating her, and i was losing in the polls, i would do exactly what newt gingrich d.you'id. i'd start to say outlandish things and change the subject. >> barney is as outrageous at newt thinks he is. yo

we've got to preserve medicare and social security. because it's part of the social fabric of america. so when seniors get nervous about us talking about social security or medicare, they get the opinion, maybe you are going to do away with it. no. just the opposite. it's been for 70 years for social security. or 40 or 50 years for medicare. it's part of the social fabric of america. it's got to be preserved. but also at the same time and if i'm talking too long say so, but at the same time if anybody says just leave my social security alone, or just leave my medicare alone, maybe they don't realize it but they are saying, after 2021 there won't be any medicare unless we do something to preserve it. and social security after 2036 the young people today will only get 70% of benefits where people today are getting 100% of benefits. so those are the basic premises of what we suggested. one more thing if i could say this, it seems like we couldn't -- unlike the agriculture committee where we are trying to get a bipartisan agreement of what

social security medicare just so scary medicare which we pay into we take it back out ok so that's basically our money recycling you take that out and the the percentage of g.d.p. that the government represents right now because of twenty three down in one thousand percent when reagan came in office. if you took that out the percentage of gov g.d.p. that represent represented government twenty two percent government right now is smaller than it was during the beginning of the hidden leverage office let's let's use some actual numbers booklet these are actual not us i mean actual dollar numbers bill clinton left office and the sergeant was was one point the search. absolute want to admit that the republican congress bill clinton office is good they were bill clinton radios to where it is and no one right now goes for the reason that the most recent budget obama proves was when he said in twelve years that's unsustainable and what's happened is on the backs of them of course this is a little because george w. bush ran up six trillion dollars to hold the democratic and ran and then started two

and read enough of it, that this plan anticipates that we really will not have to fund social security or medicare much longer. he wants people to be able to opt out of social security, younger workers, which means they would make no contributions to it and that flow of contributions is what enables us to pay out social security benefits. so this is, as much a removal of those social programs as it is a giant tax break. >> that's right. but it is all a package deal as far as republicans are concerned. it is really rather astonishing, given what has happened in the stock market over the last few years. i'm certainly grateful that i didn't have all of my social security contributions in the stock market. and it really surprises me that this idea still has as much political traction as it does. >> it seems they learned their lesson with the polling unpopularity of the paul ryan plan to nebraska let's not talk about medicare or social security directly. let's talk about tax reform and cutting taxes and within that we can get to our goal on medicare and social security. >> perhaps. i think really it's

if you take away the guaranteed payroll tax deduction for social security, the payroll tax deduction for medicareat's guaranteed money, goes into the pipe line we can debate entitlement reform but that's guaranteed money that comes in, can you sell that? can you get politicians to vote for that. mr. cain will say there's enough money that comes to washington. can you sell that to seniors? >> it might be a tough call. the number you had on how much that sales tax can raise i question that number. we have $10 trillion of national consumption. if you tax 9%, that's a lot bigger number than some people are estimating, close to $900 billion. the real question is whether people would accept you know going from a payroll tax model as you said which we use now to fund social security and medicare to dedicating the revenues from the new national sales tax which would be, john, like when you go to the cash register and pay your state sales tax it would work very much like that. >> do you worry about behavioral adaptation, once people know the consumption is taxed, a lot of critics say it's not fair to poor

then ask my cabinet.... >> woodruff: including social security and medicare. >> no, no, no, no, no. not including social security and medicare. that's a separate problem we have to come back and restructure. i have ideas on that. i'm talking about the basic expenditures that run these agencies not the program. that's a separate problem that i plan to attack. i'm saying the agency here is going to have to do a deep dive to help find additional monies in order to be able to do that. that's the approach we're going to use. >> woodruff: across the board. you think you could come up with enough money without going after the entire.... >> exactly. and the reason is growing the economy so the projection of revenues will be much higher. it will be tough. but i'm saying that that's the objective we've set out there. >> woodruff: two international questions. first the middle east. syria where president assad has been authorizing the murder of the centers in that country. as president, would you be willing... would you be prepare to send american forces either air power or ground troops if nece

so, when seniors get nervous about us talking about social security and medicare, they get the opinion that maybe you are going to do away with it. in no, just opposite. it has been for 70 years for social security and over 40 or 50 years from medicare, part of the social fabric of america. it's got to be preserved. but also at the same time -- and if i am talking to long, say so -- at the same time, if anybody said just leave my social security alone or just leave my medicare alone, maybe they don't realize it but they are saying after 2021, there will not be any medicare unless we do something to preserve it, as social security after 2036, the young people today will only get 70% of benefits whereas people today are getting 100% of the benefits. those of the basic premises of what we suggested. one more thing if i could say this -- it seems like, unlike the agricultural committee, where we are trying to get a bipartisan agreement about what to do about these various programs, in the finance committee, the senate republicans suggested things to the super committee and i presume, but i

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social security. social security is really a problem that is small in comparison to medicare. al security very simply is a system that needs to take in more money than what it pays out, so to fix social security, raise the retirement age, means testing, change the escalator built into social security dprt wage index to the inflation rate and then have an option for self directing those funds. that's the fix for social security. not cutting social security. medicaid and medicare -- i reformed medicaid in the state of new mexico. we changed it from a fee-for-service model to a managed care model. we saved a bunch of money. had better health care delivery. i believe that if the federal government would have block granted the state of new mexico 43% less money and let me be in charge of the delivery of health care to the poor, with 43% less money, done away with the strings and the mandatings, that i could have done that. i suggest that we do the same with medicare. block grant the states, 50 laboratories of innovation, 50 laboratories of best practice. if we don't fix this, i am i

nation until debt the obama administration offered to cut trillions from the federal budgets social security medicare medicaid. >> rail, rail, rail, rail. >> spy spe high speed rail. >> we have 13 million for high speed rail. >> they have 84 mile line in florida. $810 million to start construction on another in wisconsin. and for california, billions more. >> right now it's around $45 billion. >> california congressman devon n nuniez is a 4 term republican. >> who is paying for this? >> right now the federal tax payer is going to pay for it but the remainder of the money will have to be made up by californians which if anybody has paid attention california is also broke. >> he opposes the project. that hasn't necessarily been easy. his con at this tistituents suf much as any. the planned rail line from san diego to the bay area through the district. weighing down will create hundreds of thousands of temporary construction jobs. he points out it's a bit of a stretch to call those jobs green. >> any time you are using concrete and bulldozers it's a new job. >> we believe any job is a green job. >> kurt

. >> we are telling the super committee, hands off social security, medicare and medicaid. period. no intentions. >> a lot of free advice for the committee but not much else. and not much time to complete the work. >> bret: jim, thank you. congressman ron paul will be in the center seat in a few minutes. but first, why is the government considering loaning a russian company $730 million of your dollars? b d d0e(ll now and get your own incredible jaw saw for just three easy payments of only $39.95 that's an amazing offer on an the jaw saw will save you more time and allow you to do your jobs faster and safer than ever before. call the number on your >> bret: new questions tonight how the energy department is spending your money. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel says a powerful lawmaker wants to know how a foreign owned firm got in position for three-quarters of a ball dollars. >> government is taking risk and getting short end of the reform. >> darrell issa is raising questions about the department of energy decision to offer $730 million conditional loan commitment to