hi, i'm here with carl, he is the operations manager for solar city. we decided to take a little break from the cls room to so we could see some of the solar panels in action. carl, how are you? >> very well. nice to meet you. >> how do you like the weather? >> not too bad. >> kind of sunny. how does that impact our solar panels when we have lots of sun versus fog which we are typically accustomed to in san francisco? >> well, contrary to popular belief, solar panels will produce electricity when it's foggy out. how much depends on the density of the fog. on a day like today it's hazy for typical san francisco weather. on a day like talking, you can expect 80% of your what would be your full production on a clear sunny day. >> so if i were thinking about getting solar panels and i lived in san francisco and i was worried about haze versus full sun and how that will impact what jets yated, are there any tools or tricks that i can use to determine what the production is going to be like? >> the first thing you need to do is look at what available area do

city. >> we need to find other ways to create energy without harm to the environment and this is one source. >> we have over 2 megawatts of solar on various city buildings. we are looking at tidal power and we're beginning to look at geothermal power. >> we're on the roof of the moscone center of san francisco and we have 2500 panels that power the center. >> here we are using real energy, energy from the sun, free energy from the sun coming in right here. this converts directly into electricity. >> all these technologies cost money. they don't make economic sense. solar never made economic sense. bio fuels never made economic sense. it's when it was adopted that it started making sense. >> some of them have challenges, that take a long time to prove out, but there's no reason that the challenge of where we will get tomorrow's energy in the united states should not produce a very, very large. >> san francisco is unique in the united states because we serve our own power needs. >> the city of san francisco is well positioned in that we are perfectly located to take advantage of any renewable category. >> we tend to be the last o

city hall is getting solar, which is fabulous. i think it's really exciting local businesses, local advocates have worked on this for years. the organization that got this contract is a colorado-based publicly traded company that has no offices in san francisco and is not signatory to a collective bargaining agreement. we all lose. we all lose when none of us are part of the process and none of us are given opportunities. if local business is given an opportunity to win some of these contracts, we will all win and be able to expand that opportunity. thank you. >> thank you. and thank you for your how we can instead of why we can't attitude. we really appreciate that very much. >> we can do this. we've got a lot of talent hee. we've got a lot of talented people that do really good work and in fact san francisco and the bay area is one of the most competitive places to do solar and lumanalt won sixth place in one of the fastest growing companies in the bay eamplet the reason we did that is through sweat by men and women who are all

solar projects in san francisco? any plans to expand our portfolio all are on hold. we're supposed to put them on city hall, on the symphony. there's no end in sight. i would like to see an update. can the planned come up with how san francisco starts doing solar projects again? it has been suggested that the pyrene project could be a solution. there was a type of labor dispute that led to a situation at one of the markey solar projects. this is amazing that but there is stuff that has to get worked out and a lot of us all fully understand and are waiting to get unraveled. the city's electricity plants have suffered and the community has suffered because there was a really strong labor partnership between the city and the community groups to get to work. did you know that over 30% of the workers were from the most economically disadvantaged community and they are so excited to get up on the roof. i don't know how we get it going again but let's find a way to a least talk about it and get it into the plan. this can be a brief solution that we are all waiting for. but the -- to align >> i'm with the all

while he was president of the public utility commission, 50 city-owned buildings were retrofitted saving energy. the sunset solar project installation began construction. the replacement program of lights began, 18,000 will be replaced by the end of the project. the southeast taskforce completed its work on final recommendations for the replacement of the facility. the rainwater harvesting program and 192 rain barrels created the capacity for 21,000 gallons of rain water storage. the landscape irrigation ordinance was zero approved by the commission and moved to the board for consideration. $240 million or sold to improve in some were infrastructure. critical support for acquisition and protection was approved for land adjacent to the watershed. creating a significant number of new jobs and safety improvements to the water system. the automated water meter program was launched. the recycle water project was moved forward and will help reduce dependence on water resources. more than 4000 ha lit rebates and 5000 washer rebates were issued. the big tunnel construction project began, the first tunnel to be built. th

solar units. each would have the meter installed. and lastly, the city processes as well as teh puc -- the puc mentioned there would have to be a ceqa process. and they brought this up regarding conjecture in terms of overhead wiring and things like that. the next step sounds like petrasolar would have to have a pilot project. they went through some of the items they would need in this proposal. and the proposed efficiency of such a program, trying to measure the output and qualification. we're going to be waiting on petra how to see if they will submit a proposal. the you have any questions? commissioner mirkarimi: when would we know potentially? do we encourage them to go ahead and submit horovitz register their interest? >> from my meetings, it did not sound like there was any time line. i know that a representative is here today. we did not talk about a specific time line. commissioner mirkarimi: can we ask the representative? thank you. >> regulatory manager for petra solar. commissioner mirkarimi: are you interested in submitting a proposal? >> we

solar panels. >> drive that car in my citiville city. >> there you go. >>> too much explicit contempt for children. the parents television council released a study today claiming that many online video destinations don't do enough to keep an appropriate content from kids. the advocacy group evaluated the child appropriateness of four online video portals, hugh lieu, comcast's fan cast, aol's slash control and at&t's u verse. none received a grade better than a d. >>> well, cash in your trash this holiday season. it is a -- because a number of stores will give you some green for your gadgets, cell phones, ipods and video games are among the tradeable items, target, radio shack, game stop, walmart, staples participating in the program. electronics can have a second life instead of going right into that landfill. >> depending on the condition of the item, we will go ahead and give you what we can or will appraise it for. you're also welcome if there is no value to it for some odd reason, we can recycle it for you properly. >> a 3 g phone can get you about 100 bucks, ipods can earn you almost 30. vide

. >>> still ahead, police in one peninsula city warning residents about a scam. also a east bay solar company faces financial trouble. why they may be on the hook if it defaults on the stimulus loan. plus a new legal challenge to san quentin's death row expansion. and helping you find >> closed captioning brought to you by mancini sleepworld. >>> we begin money scope report with overseas stocks rising in response to federal reserve's latest stimulus plan. to buy $600 billion in bonds and drive is to make interest rates lower. so far, best month for auto sales. they boosted sales for every large automaker. executives have been cleared to use chartered planes again as they begin their plan. they approved the use of private jets as they demand to fly commercial as part of the bail out. >> a company are will restructure debt and turn over production to another company. >>> marin county is suing the state over its plan to expand san again's death row. governor swarzenegger did not have the authority to veto an effort in last year's budget to delay the project. the bill's study found overcr

also a solar company hosting presidents, governors is now in danger of leaving the government holding the bag z the election impact on oakland police force. the tough choices now facing cityeaders concerned about crime. and it's coming up tonight at 6:00. now back to dan and cheryl. >> thank you. >> san francisco longest running musical comedy act joined the crowd saluting giants with a special hat. >> there is others joining in the celebration. >> and so exciting. we're going to

solar panels, the addition of new trees, and rain water cisterns. there is a low impact design. 799 square feet. the permit holder submitted to the appellant and the city about making it suitable for a single family. san francisco architect ian murray made a comment. the appellant has presented no objective evidence, other than her own desire it. there were the neighborhood groups. the appellate argues that the permit holder after 4.5 years of work in favor of the residential design team's recommendation to build a separate two-story structure. the permit holder used a model to demonstrate the effect it would have on the appellant, which was talked about by commissioner moore. commissioner moore: architect ian murphy, she will, indeed, it continue to enjoy it freestanding home. i would support your motion and asked that we approve it. -- and ask that we approve it. >> this is kind of the reverse of what we usually see. neighbors want it smaller. >> we like to take into consideration what staff recommends. i err towards the d.r. requester. it is an extraordinary project. it is sustainable and thoughtful. >> i think this is a very modest addition. there